September 5th, 2012
01:19 PM ET
Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles Muslims
By Moni Basu, CNN
On the program, called "The Threat in Our Backyard," is a lecture on Islam in public schools and a short film on Sharia finance.
It's a program organized by people who feel the American way of life is threatened by Islam - in particular, Sharia, or Islamic law.
Sharia would bring ruin to America, says Greg Johnson, vice president of the 9/12 Project Tennessee, a sponsor of the event that advocates for shifting government back to the intent of the Constitution's authors.
He says he has nothing against Muslims, but he takes issue with the tenets of Islam.
Sharia, he believes, would mean that practicing homosexuals would be put to death, women would not be educated and would be married off to men chosen by their fathers, and non-Muslims would become kafirs - nonbelievers - relegated to second-class citizenship.
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"And I don't want that coming to America," Johnson says.
He's not alone in his fears.
A tide of anti-Islam sentiment has been swelling across America in recent months, strong enough to prompt one imam to wish for the days immediately after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks when President George W. Bush declared that Muslims were not our enemies; that the war on terror was against a select few who acted upon their hate for America.
"In the 11 years since, we have retreated," says Abdullah Antepli, the Muslim chaplain at Duke University who likes to call himself the Blue Devil Imam.
Muslims make up less than 1% of the U.S. population. Yet, say Muslim advocates, they are a community besieged.
Hate crimes against Muslims spiked 50% in 2010, the last year for which FBI statistics are available. That was in a year marked by Muslim-bashing speech over the Islamic center near ground zero in Manhattan and Florida Pastor Terry Jones' threats to burn Qurans.
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Antepli likens the current climate to McCarthyism. Left unchecked, he says, anti-Muslim fervor, like racism and anti-Semitism, has the potential to evolve into something dangerous.
This year's holy month of Ramadan, which ended August 19, was marred by a spate of violence at U.S. Islamic centers that included a fire, a homemade bomb and pig parts. The incidents were unprecedented in scale and scope, says the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
At least seven mosques and one cemetery were attacked in the United States during Ramadan, according to the council and other groups that track such incidents.
Particularly visible on the anti-Muslim radar has been the state of Tennessee, where a mosque opened during Ramadan after two years of controversy. The new Islamic center in Murfreesboro opened a few weeks ago after delays caused by legal wrangling, community protests and vandalism.
Also in Tennessee, incumbent congresswoman Diane Black found herself publicly opposing Sharia after her opponent Lou Ann Zelenik made it a campaign issue.
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State senatorial candidate Woody Degan's website also mentions Sharia:
"VOTE CONSERVATIVE! VOTE Anti-Sharia, VOTE Against Internet Taxes, Vote FOR Gun Carry Rights! VOTE for your PERSONAL RIGHTS!"
And Gov. Bill Haslam recently came under fire for hiring lawyer Samar Ali, a Muslim woman from Tennessee, to work in the international division of the state's economic development department.
Ali's critics called her Sharia-compliant and a website called Bill H(Islam) attacked the governor for pursuing "a policy that promotes the interest of Islamist (sic) and their radical ideology."
The website links to another that discusses, among other things, Islamic infiltration of public schools.
"I cannot stress enough the seriousness of their push to spread their religion to all non-Muslims throughout our country," says website author Cathy Hinners, another speaker at next Tuesday's 9/11 event in Franklin.
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"Why? Why are Muslims so adamant that we accept their religion? The answer is simple. The answer is in black and white. The answer is in the Muslim brotherhoods "Strategic Goal for North America." It's called a global caliphate. One religion, one government, one law... called Sharia."
In November 2010, more than 70% of voters in Oklahoma approved a ballot initiative to amend the state's constitution that banned courts from looking at "legal precepts of other nations or cultures. Specifically, the courts shall not consider international law or Sharia law."
The amendment died after a federal court ruled it discriminatory.
"That was very explicitly anti-Islamic," says Glenn Hendrix, an Atlanta lawyer who specializes in international law. "It specifically referenced Sharia."
This year, 33 anti-Sharia or international law bills were introduced in 20 states, making it a key issue. Six states - Louisiana, South Dakota, Kansas, Arizona, Louisiana and Tennessee - adopted such laws prior to 2012.
Two Tennessee lawmakers attempted to pass a bill this year that would have made it a felony to practice Sharia, but it failed.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations says the anti-Sharia bills are based on draft legislation promoted by David Yerushalmi, an anti-Islamic lawyer from New York.
Yerushalmi founded the Society of Americans for National Existence, an organization devoted to promoting his theory that Islam is inherently seditious and Sharia is a "criminal conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups.
"Ideally," says the center, "he would outlaw Islam and deport its adherents altogether."
Hendrix says anti-Sharia legislation is not necessary since U.S. courts ultimately are beholden to U.S. law.
But it sends a strong message to the Muslim community.
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The American Bar Association, which opposes federal or state laws that impose blanket prohibitions on foreign laws, says such legislative initiatives stigmatize an entire religious community and "are inconsistent with some of the core principles and ideals of American jurisprudence."
Valarie Kaur, a legal advocate and hate crimes specialist, says proponents of anti-Sharia bills are battling an imaginary threat.
"There is no push to install Sharia law in the U.S.," she says. "Anti-Sharia bills target the religious principles of Muslim Americans and fuel anti-Muslim rhetoric and bias. As a Sikh American whose community has too often become the target of hate, I believe it's time to stand against all forms of racism and religious bigotry."
An attack at a Wisconsin Sikh temple last month killed six people. Many believe the shooter mistook Sikhs for Muslims. A Sikh gas station attendant in Arizona was the first victim of reprisal after the 9/11 attacks.
Kaur blames tough economic times and an amplification of hateful speech for incidents like the temple shooting and the momentum behind the anti-Sharia campaign.
For Muslims, Sharia - which means "path to the watering hole" in Arabic - is the divine law revealed centuries ago in the Quran that governs all aspects of life. More often than not, it's the most sensational parts of Sharia - like cutting off a thief's hand - that garner the most publicity.
U.S. courts bump up against it in cases of divorces, inheritance, child custody, enforcement of money judgments and commercial disputes or tort actions.
A trial court in New Jersey, for instance, ruled that a husband, who was Muslim, lacked the criminal intent to commit sexual assault on his wife because Sharia permits a man to have sex with his wife whenever he wants.
That's the kind of ruling that fuels anti-Sharia activists.
Nashville health-care investor Andrew Miller says there's no room for democracy within Islamic ideology. All you have to do is look to any Islamic state, he says.
"If you wanted to pray to a large rock and that was your God, I could care less," he says. "But the minute you want to put a gun to my head and say you will pray to this large rock and your family will or you will pay the price, that's when I see a bully. I see an overbearing ideology that wants to force and coerce people.
Miller describes himself as a tolerant person but not when it comes to people dictating how others will live.
"That's antithetical to the freedoms that we value, the liberty we value," he says.
The message that Islam is evil has been repeated so many times - sometimes directly, sometimes in a more subtle fashion - that it has sunk in as reality in the hearts and minds of many Americans, says Antepli, the Duke chaplain.
Part of it is fear of the unknown, he says.
"I, too, would have a monstrous image of Islam if I did not know any better."
But another part of it is orchestrated, he says, referring to "well-organized and polished" anti-Islam websites that have sprouted in recent years. Marry that with ignorance and the end result is lethal, Antepli says.
The Center for American Progress, a liberal research and advocacy organization, published a report last year that attributed the rise of Islamophobia to a "small, tightly-networked group of misinformation experts."
The report called "Fear, Inc." lists seven foundations that gave $42.6 million to think tanks to promote anti-Islamic thought.
It describes "deeply intertwined individuals and organizations" that "manufacture and exaggerate threats of 'creeping Sharia,' Islamic domination of the West, and purported obligatory calls to violence against all non-Muslims by the Quran."
The issue of Sharia, say some Muslims, has become a political hot potato in an election year.
GOP candidates Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann mentioned Sharia in their campaign speeches. This year's Republican Party platform makes mention of foreign laws:
"Subjecting American citizens to foreign laws is inimical to the spirit of the Constitution. It is one reason we oppose U.S. participation in the International Criminal Court. There must be no use of foreign law by U.S. courts in interpreting our Constitution and laws. Nor should foreign sources of law be used in State courts' adjudication of criminal or civil matters."
That's the message Miller hopes people will take away from next week's 9/11 meeting; that the tenets of Islam go against the constitution of the United States.
It's diametrically opposed to what people like Antepli and Kaur will be saying as America remembers the horror of terrorism. Hateful sentiment, they say, is not the answer.
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I'll check out http://www.whyislam.org. It is true , peoples places of worship shouldn't be burned down, of course not.
Check out http://www.youcanbeanidiottoo.com while you are at it. Every bit as good.
I wouldn't check websites. I'd checkout a reliable source such as the Quran and going to the Mosque to talk to Islamic Officials to learn more about Islam.
Islam – A Religion
Based on Terrorism
To understand Islam, you have to accept certain facts about this religion. The impact of Islam on the daily life of Muslims is far greater than that found in the Western Culture since the Middle Ages. Muslims advance a definition that Islam is a shinning beacon against the darkness of repression, segregation, intolerance, and racism.
Nothing could be further from the truth!
Islam has no fundamental concept of Inalienable Rights as mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. Islam does not permit the individual to enjoy the freedoms of action and association characteristic of the Democracy that so many Western cultures currently enjoy today. Islam is a religion in name only because of a reference to "Allah" as their Deity. A well known fact is that Islam is a totalitarian ideology that rejects Democracy, personal freedom, and every other religion. The ideals of anti-Semitism and anti-Western Culture run rampant throughout Islam. The Laws of Man are meaningless and have absolutely no relevance in Muslim culture because they are without any direct reference to the Koran or Shariah Law and therefore they have no place in Muslim life. Islamic law is completely incompatible with Freedom, Democracy, or any other government where the people have an actual voice in government or the will of the people matters.
"True Islam permits neither elections nor democracy."
- Sufi Mohammed, Muslim Cleric
"Islam is a revolutionary faith that comes to destroy any government made by man. Islam doesn't look for a nation to be in better condition than another nation. Islam doesn't care about the land or who own the land. The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power in this world that tries to get in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy."
- Mawlana Abul Ala Mawdudi, founder of Pakistan's Fundamentalist Movement
Their goal is to make Islam a Worldwide State sanctioned religion led by religious leaders having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all aspects of life based on Islamic teachings, and emphasizing Islam to the detriment of any and all other religions and secular beliefs.
For people that have grown up with Freedom and Liberty, this is often a hard realization to comprehend. Islam as a religion requires mandatory implementation and participation as a way of life and is the goal of all Muslims. For Muslims, Islam is the only true religion. All other religions are false and an insult to Allah, Islam, "the prophet" Muhammad, and all Muslims. Under Islamic law, infidel religions and beliefs will not be tolerated. With Islam, there is no Freedom of Religion, there is no Individual Freedom; there is only Islam and the Islamic way of life.
be careful not to discriminate against people. here in america we can choose to BELIEVE ANYTHING WE WANT and promote those beliefs as long as its not breaking laws. i may not agree with your beliefs or religion but we all have to respect another persons RIGHT to those beliefs and religion. be ready for tempers to flair and blood to spill when people begin to try to restrict someones american rights and impose their own beliefs.
The problem with Islam is that they advocate violence in a way that no other religion does. I've met some really nice people of Islamic faith that have been hard to dislike, but at the end of the day, I still wouldn't want them in my home. Naturally, most Islamic people try to explain away the violence that encapsulates their religion and tend to reach back hundreds of years to point the dirty end of the stick at Christianity. What matters is today, not 400 years ago and today, Islam has a lot to answer for.
If there really is a rise in anti-Islam sentiment among Americans, that is surprisingly good news! Perhaps it is due to the fact that more ane more Americans are becoming knowledgeable about the wicked tenets of Islam which are taught and preached in every mosque. May this trend continue!
Well said! May islam be eradicated in the USA! Inshallah!
All of this is just tilting at windmills. Sharia law will never be a possibility in the US. This is nothing but right-wing, Christian religio-fascist, racist fear-mongering stirred up by ultra-conservative groups like the Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck's 9/12 Project.
Hey, it was good enough to start two wars, open a concentration camp in Cuba, get torture legalized, suspend habeas corpus, and get your junk touched at the airport! That's good all-American stuff!
The tea-baggers and ultra right-wing christains are already bringing this crap to us, they just aren't calling it sharia. Compare the tenets of Sharia law with what the conservatives are pushing state-by-state. You'd be surprised.
No I wouldn't.
Yes of course, blame the Christians, Republicans, Bush (Jr. and Sr.) and don't forget to blame Jesus you turd.
I was shocked to read this – did the combine community have a rally in the corn field again?
An easy and peaceful solution:
(Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..)
From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi----–
The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)
Are you ready?
Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.
The First Five of the 77 Branches:
"1. Belief in Allah"
aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.
"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."
Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".
"3. To believe in the existence of angels."
A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.
"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.
Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.
Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.
"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
be upon him) alone."
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!
Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.
reality, the events that we call the big bang and it's immediate aftermath are described accurately in the Qur'an. fun fact! look it up!! Also, the Earth is also accurately described as being one third the age of the universe, set into an equation that both scholars and rural farmers can easily understand.
Please give the line in the koran about the age of the Earth. Might want to check previous earlier writings of the Greeks, Egyptians and Jews before concluding that this was something revealed to Mohammed. And while you are reading the koran, please note the following:
o "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)
"'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)
"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)
"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)
Do you have one of these lists for Xtians? Then we'd be getting somewhere....
I think you guys are really narrow minded when it comes to understanding a religion. Islam is a religion of peace. If you believe what the media portrays then you are indeed a fool. Study the Quran so that you not embrace but to learn it so that you guys can understand the true meaning of Islam.
James The true meaning of Islam is Submission ( I submit before the will of Allah). Basically I am a slave again, because I cant think, I need to be told what to do, what to eat, how to eat, what to wear, etc etc..
You want to know why so much hatred and bias is aimed at Muslims..just read this article and watch the video. How many of you would condone or put up with this? http://www.timesofisrael.com/egyptian-cleric-advises-men-beat-your-wife-so-she-will-mend-her-ways/
Dont complain, You give it worse to non Muslims in the middle east.
I think ScottCA is right on, personally i think all religion ends up for the most part being far away from spirituality , but to each their own. It's just the Islamic religion , more so the cultures that have harbored it over time, well.... this is something America is not prepared for. Especially , if there are perhaps people immigrating to the U.S. demanding that our laws change to their accordance.
I am an American muslim and am amazed at the ignorance of fellow Americans about the beliefs and teachings of Islam.
For those who are speaking their ignorance about Islam on CNN, why don't they spend an hour on reading about islam and decide whether it makes sense to them.
The following web site can be a good start to get some basic knowledge about islam
I think American stands at a cross-road and we need to decide whether we want America to be the America of George Washington or do we want it to be the America of KKK ?
What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?
And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?
The koran, Mohammed's book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means.
Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed.
Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein.
Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................
if the tenets of Quran is the reason for such violence, how is it that the religion specific violence is so low in Indonesia as compared to middle east?? I am not talking there is no religion specific violence in Indonesia, but comparatively, very very low.. why is that? Could it be because of the cultural differences ?
I know all I need to know about Islam for the muslim masses....this mass of "humanity"?...that is so loud to raise their collective voices to claim how Islam is a religion of peace....yet seem to lose there ability to speak when it comes to condemning the acts of those few that claim to murder in support on Islam.
When I hear Muslims denounce those within their ranks that would preach death & destruction to those who would not blindly follow their murderous ways.....then I might consider it a religion of peace.
You are either part of the problem or part of the cause....as long as you remain quiet...you remain supportive of those who claim murder is the will of their g-o-d.
Take your book and cram it up your ass.I've read the damn thing,and I've seen,in person what your religion is really all about.I hate the kkk and all haters,but you guys take the cake.I will fight you where I can. You make me sick.
I say deport all muslim males and keep the honeys...I tell you they are the best.
Gotta love a woman in a bag!!
I wonder, in the last 3 or 4 years, how many "terrorist" attacks on people were islam centric, that the anti-islam sentiment has been rising in this country? Is it simply the easiest group they could find to take their frustrations on?
Why are you only going back 3 or 4 years? Why are you focusing only on terror!st attacks and ignoring the wars? Oh… thats right…you are trying to frame the question so as to get the response you want.
Our War on Terror and Aggression:
An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)
The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent and Not So Recent Body Count
As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:
The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century
■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "
and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.
and more recently
1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured
1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh
2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured
3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.
5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.
6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.
7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.
8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.
9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.
10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror
11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.
12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.
13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,
14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.
15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.
16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.
17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.
18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.
19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011
20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011
21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.
22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.
23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "
o 24) Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:18am EDT
BAGHDAD (Reuters) – A suicide bomber detonated an explosive-packed car outside a Shi'ite Muslim office in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 26 people and wounding more than 190 in an attack bearing the hallmarks of Iraq's al Qaeda affiliate.
The bombing on a Shi'ite religious office comes at a sensitive time, with the country's fractious Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurdish blocs locked in a crisis that threatens to unravel their power-sharing deal and spill into sectarian tensions."
25) BURGAS, Bulgaria | Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27am EDT
(Reuters) – A suicide bomber carried out an attack that killed seven people in a bus transporting Israeli tourists in Bulgaria, the interior minister said on Thursday, and Israel said Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants were to blame.
More on our wars against terror and horror:
-Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles as of 09/15/2011/, 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf
– Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed mostly due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,
– Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.
– Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)
– North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.
– Northern Ireland is finally at peace.
– The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!
– – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
– Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols escaped the death penalty twice because of deadlocked juries. He was sentenced to 161 consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole, and is incarcerated in ADX Florence, a super maximum security prison near Florence, Colorado. He shares a cellblock that is commonly referred to as "Bombers Row" with Ramzi Yousef and Ted Kaczynski
– Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.
– Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.
– Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.
– The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.
The capture of Ratko Mladić: (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtkɔ mlǎːditɕ], born 12 March 1943) is an accused war criminal and a former Bosnian Serb military leader. On May 31, 2011, Mladić was extradited to The Hague, where he was processed at the detention center that holds suspects for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY). His trial began on 3 June 2011.
– the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.
– Bin Laden was executed for crimes against humanity on May 1, 2011
– Ditto for Anwar al-Awlaki on September 30, 2011
– Ditto for Abu Yahya al-Libi on June 5, 2012
the wars.. which we took to their country.. forget about the terrorist attacks, and consider everythnig.. whatever you want, and answer the question.. I am not being judgemental here nor taking either side of this argument, but making a philosophical observation about morality of the whole thing..
Sure, you mourn every lost american life in the war.. but do you even care about how many normal/regular people who have nothing to do with either side of the war were killed in the process? a little hint.. its a lot LOT more than those who lost their lives in 9/11.. Does that make us the "good" guys here or just the same kind of monsters as those terrorists, but in different clothing?
Reality, the events that are today called the big bang and the immediate aftermath are described in The Qur'an. fun fact!
Alien, now thats BS.. with a bit of time, I can fit any discovery into any writing easily. I can find big bang explanation in Homer's Odyssey or genetic engineering in Paradise Lost. Doesn't mean it is true. I would agree something if a book claims something PRIOR to a discovery and that happens to be proven.
Not my post.
snow, If you are interested in looking into it, the Qur'an contains a wealth of scientific miracles. (things that science did not yet reveal and go completely against the Greek logic and philosophy which dominated the Arabian peninsula of the day)
again.. I would agree something if a book claims something PRIOR to a discovery and that happens to be proven. Do you have any examples of common ideas in a book that were later proved? NOT retro fitted.
NOBODY in islamic world claimed big bang theory as the way universe began before it became a common theory elsewhere.
Snow, Muslims believe that The Qur'an is word for word the speech of the creator of the Universe so before the big bang theory they believed specific verses 21:31 Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass (ratqan), then We clove them asunder (fataqna)? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? 51:48 And the heaven We built with Our own powers (aydin) and indeed We go on expanding it (musi'un). and they believed it exactly as it was written. Today, when they hear about the big bang theory and they say that sounds like the universe that was one mass of matter until it was ripped apart and is steadily expanding described in the Qur'an. There are more such as the earth being one third the age of the universe, or the gender of the baby being determined by the male, or the seven layers of the earth. There are quite a few.
You do not understand Snow's point: Those verses u conveniently chose have been RETROFITTED (do u know what that means??) to seem like they were talking about the big bang AFTER science discovered it. Why didn't the islamic world save galileo from the chruch when he proposed that the earth revolved around the sun if the quran had all this knowledge? Why didnt the Islamic world propose the big bang theory and expansion BEFORE it was proposed by science? The obvious answer to these question is that the islamic world did not know this and thought that the sun revolved around the earth. The quran also states that the world is flat like a carpet. I can easily find videos for u on utube where sermons by uneducated imams (imams that only studied the quran) talk about a flat earth as described in the quran LOL. Also look up 'Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah bin Baz' who was a Saudi Arabian Islamic scholar who in 1966 wrote an article denouncing Riyadh University for teaching the "falsehood" that the earth rotates and orbits the sun: "The Holy Quran, the Prophet's teaching and the majority of Islamic scientists prove...that the sun is running in its orbit and...that the earth is fixed and stable". Thats how dumb these islamic scholars and the quran are.
What u r doing is u have just picked a verse from the quran that RETROFITs the big bang theory after it was discovered. As Snow said, i can open up a harry potter book and also RETROFIT scientific discoveries in it.
Here is a challenge for you: Currently science does not if the universe will collapse back unto itself or expand forever. Can u point me to a verse in the quran where the answer to this question is revealed? But lets say if science finds that the universe will collapse, then sure u can easily RETROFIT a verse in the quran that talks about collapse and 'claim' that the quran knew about this all along. Similarly, u could find a verse in the quran that talks about expansion forever and 'claim' that the quran knew about this all along.
Therefore, all ur quranic quotes r meaningless.
@ Reality you left off some groups... 6,000,000 Jews killed by Adolf Hitler ,who by the way was Catholic ! Shall I bring-up Native Americans, also known as " Indians ", brought to the door of extinction by whom you ask....American Protestant " Jesus Christ" believe Christians. I could go on but, there is NOT enough soap & water on the planet to wash the Blood from Your Hands..
Signed A Recovery Catholic !
Islam is like a cancer to society. Where ever it touches, society goes back in time, less education and more poverty arises. It kills the soul of the man, to control him forever.
Islam and Christianity both are bad. We need to outlaw both.
yet Muslim American women are more educated than your average white or black woman.
Hey Saud. Islam is a religion. White and black are a race. Who are you to talk about education?
Religion is a cancer to society.
Sud can you imagine even with that high education, they still believe in the carp and defend it. that shows the extent of the brainwashing.
It's not anti-Islamic sentiment on the rise, (although I'm sure it does rise everyday). it's just the actions from anti-Islamic sentiments finally surfacing..
Muhammad and Abraham were Messengers from the same God and came with the same religion to people in different time periods. They both performed miracles and the liars, hypocrites and haters called them a fraud. Today, believing in Abraham and disbelieving in Muhammad is like one of Abraham's people saying they believe in Noah but disbelieve in Abraham. It doesn't take away from the Prophet, the religion or the One God...it only makes them unjust to themselves.
Believing in ether is a joke. Both are a second hand, copy right infringed knock off of Judaism. Your religion is a lie. Of course… that doesn’t account for all the non-Abrahamic religions out there. Of which there are more btw.
Abraham and Noah both existed before Judaism...so aaah...yeah. lol
Abraham was the founder of Judaism.
Hubert, Abraham was the founder of a monotheistic religion and his offspring was Moses who revived his religion and the offspring of Moses later changed that religion around and named it Judaism. Noah, Abraham and Moses all shared the same religion which was not Judaism. Muhammad came with the same religion.
It's all a moot point anyway. The Koran, the Bible, and the Torah all give similar, but distinctively different commands to their respective followers. So saying they are all the same religion or come from the same god seems like a silly as.sertion. And until their is evidence for the existence of ANY god atheism is the superior position.
Hubert, it is important to point out first that both the Torah and Gospel have been altered almost beyond recognition since their revelations. Having said that one can still say that there are stark similarities between the Law of Moses and the Law of Muhammad and where there are differences in the revelation of Law, you also must take into consideration that these laws were intended for two completely different peoples. Moses built a great nation and Muhammad built a great nation. The laws are very similar and if you study both you will see that the Law of Moses and the Law of Muhammad are almost identical in many respects.
Ever considered having a thought of your own instead of just cut-and-pasting other peoples' thinking?
You are exactly like the Limbaugh radioheads who sit around propagandizing themselves all day, who then run around regurgitating those same cliches, all the while believing that they are actually thinking.
it would appear that you are doing the same as those that never have an original thought. You fall right into the party line, and your thoughts have not changed since, basically the beginning of time. So, might I write, that you may consider thinking beyond what you hear and your trite cliches are less meaningful as you fall into the same pattern as your Atheistic Religious followers.
Sharia will never come to America, and I will stand with my rifle against all muslims who come here trying to impose their poisonous delusions on my fellow citizens.
Keep Islam and Shaira out. We have enough problems with the Christian Taliban.
Not my post. Someone must be very bored today.
Islam is worse than Communism for democracy
It might be a good idea if religion were seperate from government you know cause all of us don't exactly follow it.
"Ideally," says the center, "he would outlaw Islam and deport its adherents altogether."
My man, I could use a free flight. I think one of the reasons why we super evil people aren’t leaving is because of the high airfare. Round trip and one-way tickets can range from $1,200 to $1,800 a pop, and sometimes even high.
Is there any way we can get the Society of Americans for National Existence on a state or federal government level? This way they can get the deportations under way. Also, can I chose where I want to be deported to? If not, they should really consider adding that option. It will be more appealing.
I’ll donate my $10 right after you sell your computer and discontinue your internet service. Between that the sale of your car and so forth..you’ll have the money in no time. Best of luck and good riddance.
P.S. Please take your Christian cousins with you.
Dude, that $10 isn’t going to get me anywhere. Cutting my internet service might save a couple of hundred dollars, but not enough. My laptop isn’t going to get me anything. If I’m lucky, maybe $100 after you calculate depreciation. If I sell my car I’ll still have to pay the remainder of my auto loan and given the current economy, calculating depreciation, and the minor scratches, what I sell my car for might not be enough to pay the entire auto loan.
I think there could be other ways we can achieve this. If I sell all of my stuff it might take me a while to leave, and I don’t want to be a nuisance by sticking around too long. There’s got to be some other way.