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Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles Muslims
The ruins of a mosque in Joplin, Missouri, after a fire last month that Muslims leaders suspect was an arson.
September 5th, 2012
01:19 PM ET

Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles Muslims

By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) -
When the nation pauses to remember 9/11 next week, a group of Tennesseans will gather at the Embassy Suites Hotel in Franklin for a commemoration. But it will be more than that.

On the program, called "The Threat in Our Backyard," is a lecture on Islam in public schools and a short film on Sharia finance.

It's a program organized by people who feel the American way of life is threatened by Islam - in particular, Sharia, or Islamic law.

Sharia would bring ruin to America, says Greg Johnson, vice president of the 9/12 Project Tennessee, a sponsor of the event that advocates for shifting government back to the intent of the Constitution's authors.

He says he has nothing against Muslims, but he takes issue with the tenets of Islam.

Sharia, he believes, would mean that practicing homosexuals would be put to death, women would not be educated and would be married off to men chosen by their fathers, and non-Muslims would become kafirs - nonbelievers - relegated to second-class citizenship.

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"And I don't want that coming to America," Johnson says.

He's not alone in his fears.

A tide of anti-Islam sentiment has been swelling across America in recent months, strong enough to prompt one imam to wish for the days immediately after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks when President George W. Bush declared that Muslims were not our enemies; that the war on terror was against a select few who acted upon their hate for America.

"In the 11 years since, we have retreated," says Abdullah Antepli, the Muslim chaplain at Duke University who likes to call himself the Blue Devil Imam.

Muslims make up less than 1% of the U.S. population. Yet, say Muslim advocates, they are a community besieged.

Hate crimes against Muslims spiked 50% in 2010, the last year for which FBI statistics are available. That was in a year marked by Muslim-bashing speech over the Islamic center near ground zero in Manhattan and Florida Pastor Terry Jones' threats to burn Qurans.

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Antepli likens the current climate to McCarthyism. Left unchecked, he says, anti-Muslim fervor, like racism and anti-Semitism, has the potential to evolve into something dangerous.

This year's holy month of Ramadan, which ended August 19, was marred by a spate of violence at U.S. Islamic centers that included a fire, a homemade bomb and pig parts. The incidents were unprecedented in scale and scope, says the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

At least seven mosques and one cemetery were attacked in the United States during Ramadan, according to the council and other groups that track such incidents.

Particularly visible on the anti-Muslim radar has been the state of Tennessee, where a mosque opened during Ramadan after two years of controversy. The new Islamic center in Murfreesboro opened a few weeks ago after delays caused by legal wrangling, community protests and vandalism.

Also in Tennessee, incumbent congresswoman Diane Black found herself publicly opposing Sharia after her opponent Lou Ann Zelenik made it a campaign issue.

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State senatorial candidate Woody Degan's website also mentions Sharia:

"VOTE CONSERVATIVE! VOTE Anti-Sharia, VOTE Against Internet Taxes, Vote FOR Gun Carry Rights! VOTE for your PERSONAL RIGHTS!"

And Gov. Bill Haslam recently came under fire for hiring lawyer Samar Ali, a Muslim woman from Tennessee, to work in the international division of the state's economic development department.

Ali's critics called her Sharia-compliant and a website called Bill H(Islam) attacked the governor for pursuing "a policy that promotes the interest of Islamist (sic) and their radical ideology."

The website links to another that discusses, among other things, Islamic infiltration of public schools.

"I cannot stress enough the seriousness of their push to spread their religion to all non-Muslims throughout our country," says website author Cathy Hinners, another speaker at next Tuesday's 9/11 event in Franklin.

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"Why? Why are Muslims so adamant that we accept their religion? The answer is simple. The answer is in black and white. The answer is in the Muslim brotherhoods "Strategic Goal for North America." It's called a global caliphate. One religion, one government, one law... called Sharia."

In November 2010, more than 70% of voters in Oklahoma approved a ballot initiative to amend the state's constitution that banned courts from looking at "legal precepts of other nations or cultures. Specifically, the courts shall not consider international law or Sharia law."

The amendment died after a federal court ruled it discriminatory.

"That was very explicitly anti-Islamic," says Glenn Hendrix, an Atlanta lawyer who specializes in international law. "It specifically referenced Sharia."

This year, 33 anti-Sharia or international law bills were introduced in 20 states, making it a key issue. Six states - Louisiana, South Dakota, Kansas, Arizona, Louisiana and Tennessee - adopted such laws prior to 2012.

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Two Tennessee lawmakers attempted to pass a bill this year that would have made it a felony to practice Sharia, but it failed.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations says the anti-Sharia bills are based on draft legislation promoted by David Yerushalmi, an anti-Islamic lawyer from New York.

Yerushalmi founded the Society of Americans for National Existence, an organization devoted to promoting his theory that Islam is inherently seditious and Sharia is a "criminal conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups.

"Ideally," says the center, "he would outlaw Islam and deport its adherents altogether."

Hendrix says anti-Sharia legislation is not necessary since U.S. courts ultimately are beholden to U.S. law.

But it sends a strong message to the Muslim community.

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The American Bar Association, which opposes federal or state laws that impose blanket prohibitions on foreign laws, says such legislative initiatives stigmatize an entire religious community and "are inconsistent with some of the core principles and ideals of American jurisprudence."

Valarie Kaur, a legal advocate and hate crimes specialist, says proponents of anti-Sharia bills are battling an imaginary threat.

"There is no push to install Sharia law in the U.S.," she says. "Anti-Sharia bills target the religious principles of Muslim Americans and fuel anti-Muslim rhetoric and bias. As a Sikh American whose community has too often become the target of hate, I believe it's time to stand against all forms of racism and religious bigotry."

An attack at a Wisconsin Sikh temple last month killed six people. Many believe the shooter mistook Sikhs for Muslims. A Sikh gas station attendant in Arizona was the first victim of reprisal after the 9/11 attacks.

Kaur blames tough economic times and an amplification of hateful speech for incidents like the temple shooting and the momentum behind the anti-Sharia campaign.

For Muslims, Sharia - which means "path to the watering hole" in Arabic - is the divine law revealed centuries ago in the Quran that governs all aspects of life. More often than not, it's the most sensational parts of Sharia - like cutting off a thief's hand - that garner the most publicity.

U.S. courts bump up against it in cases of divorces, inheritance, child custody, enforcement of money judgments and commercial disputes or tort actions.

A trial court in New Jersey, for instance, ruled that a husband, who was Muslim, lacked the criminal intent to commit sexual assault on his wife because Sharia permits a man to have sex with his wife whenever he wants.

That's the kind of ruling that fuels anti-Sharia activists.

Nashville health-care investor Andrew Miller says there's no room for democracy within Islamic ideology. All you have to do is look to any Islamic state, he says.

"If you wanted to pray to a large rock and that was your God, I could care less," he says. "But the minute you want to put a gun to my head and say you will pray to this large rock and your family will or you will pay the price, that's when I see a bully. I see an overbearing ideology that wants to force and coerce people.

Miller describes himself as a tolerant person but not when it comes to people dictating how others will live.

"That's antithetical to the freedoms that we value, the liberty we value," he says.

The message that Islam is evil has been repeated so many times - sometimes directly, sometimes in a more subtle fashion - that it has sunk in as reality in the hearts and minds of many Americans, says Antepli, the Duke chaplain.

Part of it is fear of the unknown, he says.

"I, too, would have a monstrous image of Islam if I did not know any better."

But another part of it is orchestrated, he says, referring to "well-organized and polished" anti-Islam websites that have sprouted in recent years. Marry that with ignorance and the end result is lethal, Antepli says.

The Center for American Progress, a liberal research and advocacy organization, published a report last year that attributed the rise of Islamophobia to a "small, tightly-networked group of misinformation experts."

The report called "Fear, Inc." lists seven foundations that gave $42.6 million to think tanks to promote anti-Islamic thought.

It describes "deeply intertwined individuals and organizations" that "manufacture and exaggerate threats of 'creeping Sharia,' Islamic domination of the West, and purported obligatory calls to violence against all non-Muslims by the Quran."

The issue of Sharia, say some Muslims, has become a political hot potato in an election year.

GOP candidates Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann mentioned Sharia in their campaign speeches. This year's Republican Party platform makes mention of foreign laws:

"Subjecting American citizens to foreign laws is inimical to the spirit of the Constitution. It is one reason we oppose U.S. participation in the International Criminal Court. There must be no use of foreign law by U.S. courts in interpreting our Constitution and laws. Nor should foreign sources of law be used in State courts' adjudication of criminal or civil matters."

That's the message Miller hopes people will take away from next week's 9/11 meeting; that the tenets of Islam go against the constitution of the United States.

It's diametrically opposed to what people like Antepli and Kaur will be saying as America remembers the horror of terrorism. Hateful sentiment, they say, is not the answer.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Politics • Tennessee

soundoff (2,383 Responses)
  1. Ousal Dove

    I am a Christian. I have Christian symbols on my car. My car has been vandalized, by knife scratches across the Christian symbol! Wonder who did that! I bet not a Christian!!!! I bet a Muslim, Democrat, atheist! take your pick...

    September 5, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • mikeb1

      Oh yes in America the christian majority are constant victims of minorities.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You'd bet on that? Maybe it was just some punk kid with nothing to do. How do you know it had anything to do with religious belief?

      I'm a Democrat and consider myself atheist, and I wouldn't dream of defacing a car.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • Snow

      could it not have been by a person who asked his god for something but went unanswered, causing him to take his anger on your obvious display of the same god? just saying..

      I am curious, why do you include an atheist in your list? How many instances of violence do you know that were perpetrated by atheists? None.. It is something that the religious wish would happen so they can pounce on atheists, but never happened.

      ps.. be weary of the true Scotsman fallacy.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Jimbo

      Why don't you leave the US then?

      September 5, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • sam stone

      Or, it was just someone who didn't like christians....or didn't like you specifically. You speak as if democrat and christian were mutually exclusive. That indicates that you are a moron.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • sam stone

      I am a moderate conservative and consider myself athiest, and I would not consider defacing someone's property. Pee-ing on the tires is another matter, though

      September 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      SAM! It was you, then?!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Ousal Dove

      Maybe... someone/somebody just doesn't like you ?

      Peace...

      September 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      It was a Democrat. Our greatest failing is we leave jobs unfinished.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • ScottCA

      More likely some teenager. Atheists are usually intelligent enough to not vandalize senselessly. Atheists base their morality in logic, and they usually behave very well.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdBJL1c7xUI
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xt5LtgsxQ&feature=bf_prev&list=PLuYdZ78wjCEvYkKXnocpkjzxwFfq4Tkdt

      September 5, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • and America is anti-freedom

      Welcome to the United States of A$$holia. Plenty 'o hate for everyone.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • William Demuth

      It wasn't me.

      If it was me, I would have torched it while you were still inside.

      Call it avenging a few witches!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      It was me. There's more where that came from too. Its my job. I work for Jesus Christ, I believe you call him "Savior" or something. Anyway, I'm on the payroll. I make a good living, I've got direct deposit with Bank of America and I've got the best healthcare plan there is. I'm immortal. Of course I've got horns and the legs of a goat, but I get all the tail I want and more. By the way... wait'll you see what I've got living in your attic.

      September 6, 2012 at 12:10 am |
    • Kafir4Life

      If you were a mu slim, that wpuld have made it into the article, and have been on C N N breaking news

      September 7, 2012 at 12:51 am |
  2. Rick

    Listening to the Christian discuss their fears about Islam makes me wonder if the native Americans felt the same when Christianity took over their culture. Christians were a formidable adversary back then and they were able to convert the native religions to Christianity through education, love and beatings. Now they're afraid the same thing will happen to them. As an Agnostic, I see a threat in every religion on the planet. So all of you Christians out there who fear Islam – get over it, America was founded on freedom of religion and if you don't want Islam invading your space then you aren't very good Americans.Good Americans accept diversity.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • xueli

      Incorrect. The right response is to fear all religions.

      The natives would have been perfectly justified in killing every Christian that set foot on their beaches. The same should be applied to the other religious nuts.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Rick

      The Christians will find the Mormons will do to them the same thing the Christians did to the Jews once they rose up the food chain.

      They will gas them.

      Only one crazy cult can be in power at any time, and history teaches us the religious just LOVE to slaughter each other.

      September 5, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
  3. Just call me Lucifer

    Whats that burning smell?

    VICTORY!

    September 5, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
  4. xueli

    Atheism is your weapon. Religion your enemy.

    Smash Islam and put their adherents on their knees.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • Mazen

      No force on earth will stop muslims from advancing forward. to ur record, Islam is the fastest growing religeon

      September 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • xueli

      Sorry, no religion converts more people than they lose to atheism and agnosticism. Truth and logic will dominate in the long run.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • therealpeace2all

      @Mazen

      " No force on earth will stop muslims from advancing forward. to ur record, Islam is the fastest growing religeon[sic] "

      When you say..."advancing forward"... what do you mean exactly ?

      I'd like to see Muslim's, especially the ones that are socially, morally, etc... so backwards come flying into the 21st century and join the rest of the world.

      Unfortunately, some of the theocratic style regimes push against progress.

      Peace...

      September 5, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • apostate

      Non-religion is the fastest growing group not Islam.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
  5. xueli

    As a non-white, non-American atheist, I say: Good.

    Anti-Islamic sentiment is justified, and should be encouraged throughout the world.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • south4evr

      You're pretty damn smart for a heathen!!!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • ScottCA

      I am in agreement as long as it is aimed at the claims of the religion and not at the individuals. I would not want to see violence ever turned on a person.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
  6. Bribarian

    People always attack the wrong targets, jews and other liberal groups are the ones opening the borders to everyone and their cousins.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      So I guess you're saying that Jews and liberals should be attacked. Classy.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • ScottCA

      We are saying that the Jewish religious belief is as crazy as all other beliefs. But Islam is the most corrosive to freedom and humanity in its current state.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
    • ScottCA

      To be culturally Jewish separate from the religious aspects is not that bad, but the religious aspects are as crazy as all other faith based beliefs, and very dangerous to all of humanity.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • sam stone

      "People always attack the wrong targets, jews and other liberal groups are the ones opening the borders to everyone and their cousins."

      So, are "jews and other liberal groups" the "wrong target"?

      September 5, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Bribarian

      No, I'm saying anyone who is promoting multiculturalism would be a better target than those who simply show up for the handouts.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • Btru

      @ ScottCA – so you are a religous expert?

      September 5, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  7. Islam religion of TERROR

    If Islam would turn into a peaceful religion the news papers would not have much to report.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Amniculi

      "Religion of peace" is by the very nature of religion and oxymoron. No religion is exempt.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  8. Anthony Thompson

    Most of the above sounds exactly like the John Birch Society warnings about Communism during the 50's and 60's. It seems to be a form of mental illness which requires some people to have a bogeyman to rail against. Sad. I wish them well.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Huebert

      Christians aren't happy unless they are playing the victim. In order to maintain their happiness it is sometimes necessary to manufacture a victimizer.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
    • Amniculi

      I don't. They can all take a long walk off a short cliff.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Difference is when a daughter decides not to be communist usually her father doesn't kill her for it.
      honor killings are one of the fastest growing types of crime. Police officers are well aware of this.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • harpman

      Huebert, it's not only Christians who are concerned and offended by the muslim religion. I am an agnostic and I do not want to see any fanatical religion take root in the US. Most Christians are lukewarm about their faith and practice it because there is no good alternative. But they mostly leave others alone. Muslims cannot leave others alone. It's not their nature. Muslim fanatics have never met a bomb they didn't like. They are equal opportunity terrorist and bomb themselves as much or more than they do others.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Huebert

      @harp

      I've never been mistreated by Muslims. I have been mistreated by Christians. Also how many terrorist attacks, IN THE USA, have committed by Muslims? How many by Christians?

      September 5, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
    • ensense

      Hubert guess what if your neighbors are Christians guess what you will have trouble with Christians even if you are a christian. so what is your point. By the way i know your a re Muslim pretending to be a non Muslim by using a christian moniker.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  9. ian

    so if muslims don't like it here, why are they here?

    September 5, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Islam religion of TERROR

      The Koran says they must rule the world and make every nation Muslim before their god will come

      September 5, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Simply to turn here into what they want it to become. They are already battling in courts for sharia law in Britain and Canada. I am sure there are groups seeking the same in America.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • south4evr

      The Koran also says that Mohammed must dress up in a bear costume and make a cameo appearance on South Park!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • Mazen

      This land belongs to God, and a muslim has the right to inhabit God's land.
      We have nothing to do with terrosim as muslims, it is masoonist who does this act of terrorism and link to muslims like 9/11 for instance. America is not ruled by Americans, if you dont belive me. Read ;ittle about APEC in US

      September 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • sam stone

      perhaps it is their homeland too, ian

      September 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • LetsThink123

      @Mazen
      You said that this land belongs to god. Wrong! god does not exist. because u or other people in authority say so doesnt make it true. Where is god? no one has seen him. there r ancient books like the bible/quran/torah where so called prophets told people via hearsay that they've had discussions and seen god. But these r obvious lies. This can be easily induced from reading the quran. For example muham_mad's allah revealed to him that the earth was flat like a carpet and that the sun revolved around the earth (look up on wiki about 'Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd Allah ibn Baaz' for a good laugh on muham_mad's teachings on cosmology in the quran). Baaz was angry at a school in 1966 that taught its students that the earth revolved around the sun.
      How come allah/god who created the earth and sun not know that the earth revolved around the sun? why did allah tell muham_mad that the sun revolved around the earth? The answer is cause muham_mad lied and made up all these things and got a scribe to write it in the quran. he never talked to any god because there is none.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:43 am |
  10. Alex

    why would any sane Muslim live in Tennessee. Its the most racist city i have ever been, they hate everybody not just Muslims. A lot of them hate Jews, Mormons, Black Christians its just a redneck place

    September 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • ian

      sugar, tennessee is not a city.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • south4evr

      Why should Muslims live? I want them just as dead as the Koran wants me!!!

      BTW, the burned out mosque looks good!!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • sam stone

      good for you, south....now, eat the business end of your sidearm

      September 5, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Alex

      Because we Non believers are paying them to move in.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • ensense

      They even have a Mosque on the Navajo reservation and guess what, there are very few followers there but the mosque is huge. It has been built in anticipation of the obvious. All the freedoms which we now cherish will be at risk sometime in the near future. Until then we can keep saying peace peace while they take us out piece by piece.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      ensense=Chicken Little.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  11. Islam religion of TERROR

    We the people have been fighting this Religion of Terror from 9-11 until this very day. Read your own news CNN. Every report contains something about Islamist Terror around the world.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • granny25

      Continuous terror, day & night. The religion of peace my asssss.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Islam

      I suggest you educate yourself.

      Our very first war was against Muslim fundamentalists, and we (the US) won it by using a suicide bomber.

      The camel jockeys are meaningless, always have been.

      Beware not the people of the mud, but of the blue eyed banker!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  12. Sdgman

    There is no place for any religion in public schools.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • Huebert

      Agreed

      September 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Agreed, but at least when I draw a parody cartoon of Jesus, the Christians might get offended but they don't order my death. Islam in its current state is the greatest threat to humanity of all religions.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • ensense

      Mike his source is the Qur'an. and you are just like the lady in the video, you are one of them, trying to dilute the issue. If you so believe the Mohamed was peaceful then look in to the wars in which Mohamed conquered Mecca and Medina. We are like the apostates of Mecca and Median we are asleep while Islam slowly creeps up to our gates. and people like your are sleeper agents planted to convince us into believing all is well, while you guys go about your business.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
  13. ScottCA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCOQukCn0kg

    September 5, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • mikeb1

      The guy makes a lot of assertions but does not site any sources. Essentially he is declaring things to be so and people who held the opinions he is asserting just go along with it because it is what they wanted to hear to begin with.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • mikeb1

      sorry ...cite not site.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
    • ScottCA

      his citations are listed in his book. And they are extensive.

      Some background on him:
      "Sam Harris, PhD (born 1967) is an American author, philosopher, public intellectual, and neuroscientist, as well as the co-founder and CEO of Project Reason.[1] He is the author of The End of Faith, which was published in 2004 and appeared on The New York Times best seller list for 33 weeks. The book also won the PEN/Martha Albrand Award for First Nonfiction in 2005.[2] In 2006 Harris published his book Letter to a Christian Nation, a response to criticism of The End of Faith. This work was followed by The Moral Landscape published in 2010, his long-form essay Lying in 2011 and the short book Free Will in 2012."

      He is in excellent standing amongst the scientific community.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • mikeb1

      Scott he does not cite any sources in this discussion as for the rest...well many people with nice credentials have been misled and deluded. Remember most great scientists once thought the world was flat, that j ews and b lacks were inherintly inferior, that ddt was good for you etc. That is why I like facts and not opinions even if they are from some famous guy.

      Don't drink the cool-aid its laced with folly.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm |
    • Bob

      Mike, way to rudely shove aside what ScottCA said, you pushy, arrogant b-stard.

      If you do your homework on Harris, you will find his works extensively referenced. So get on it before you speak from ignorance again.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
    • mikeb1

      Bob i gather from your emotional response and thoughtless reply that you would be unable to understand a rebuttal so I will spare myself any attempt to convert the irrational.

      The only response I will ever lower myself to give you is the below quote;

      "Do not argue with fools they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

      September 5, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  14. William Demuth

    I am stunned by the ignorance of so many Americans.

    We have a cult member running for President and you yahoos are worried about the camel jockeys?

    You want a man who believes in magic underwear and personal planets for himself who has truckloads of money hidden overseas to have his finger on the trigger of several thousand warheads, while you worry about a bunch of illiterate third world pigs?

    America, I am ashamed of your ignorance.

    Open your eyes, the real threat to America and her freedoms come not from abroad but right here at home.

    Christian simpletons, who would gladly trade the little freedom they have left for more "protection" from an inflated threat.

    Bread and circuses to keep the slave sheep from rebelling while you are fleeced yet again.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Thank you.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • ScottCA

      I have spent more time battling against christian and Mormon delusionals than Islam. And the threat of all religion is understood well. But no one religion is as fundamentally dangerous to humanity in its current state, than Islam. the penalty for leaving the Islamic belief is death. And the punishment for blasphemy is also death. The creators of south park have been sentenced to death by Islam, no christian group in America has ordered this, over the countless parody jokes made of Jesus and Christianity on south park. Islam is anti freedom and anti humanity.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
    • Ousal Dove

      Well William Demuth, I can only assume the you are talking about that Cult member Obama running for re-election and the Cult is Islam!!! get real!! the danger is obvious to most intelligent Americans.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • md

      As far as ignorance, you, good sir are leading the pack.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Truefax

      No Ousal – Obama unfortunately isn't playing at being an xchan, he actually believes that fairytail.

      William is talking about Mittens – who's personal fairytail is more insane.

      That said I can't wait till we have a truely secualar President and congress cut the mental illness out of government all together and have rational debateds and reach reasonable agreements.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • William Demuth

      Ousal Dove

      Indoctrinated much?

      Mormonisim is a religion but Muslims are in a cult? A 1.3 BILLION member cult?

      You Jeebus freaks are being played like the fools you are.

      Once they stopped pitching the Commie peril they needed a new shiny object to distract the Hill Billies with.

      I really wish you yahoo's would get your minds out of the 14th century.

      They are selling you a bill of goods, and your children into slavery.

      America can ONLY fall to the threats from within, and ignorance and simplicity will drag us far closer to annihilation than all the religions of the third world.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • ensense

      You guys have perfected this into an art form. divert any attention from Islam, and make it a REPUB vs Dem issue so that in the divisiveness, the problem of Islam is forgotten.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
  15. A

    ‎"women wouldn't be educated and would be forced to marry husbands chosen by their fathers...if you wanted to pray to a large rock and that was your god..." What on earth are these bozos on about??? I think the combined IQ of every islamophobe in the country is less than that of a large rock.

    These idiots need to put down their beer and TV remote and pick up a book. Of course, it falls to all the level headed people in this country to educate them... :-/

    September 5, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • b

      Truth hurts.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
  16. Tom, Tom, the Other One

    Are Muslim Americans seeking advice? Mine is free:

    Rein in or report anyone among you, Muslim or otherwise, who exhibits extremist tendencies that may lead to violence.

    Don't proselytize unless clearly invited (this is just good manners).

    Acknowledge and respect all rights granted by our secular government to everyone. "Everyone" includes your family and females of your faith (just so you're clear on that).

    Obey the laws of the United States and your local government.

    If you feel any of this conflicts with your understanding of your religion, seek redress by the courts of the secular government of the United States under the 1st amendment.

    Keep your stick on the ice.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • ScottCA

      Good advice, and in a perfect world all religious people would understand it. Unfortunately, the religious almost certainly will not heed your advice.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • ScottCA

      One problem with what you are suggesting. It is through the courts that religion is now eroding the separation of Church and State This problem needs addressing.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Do Muslims play hockey?

      September 5, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • HamsterDancer

      Your list could apply to Christians as well as Muslims.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Amniculi

      As it well should.

      September 5, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  17. SomeNameHere

    Hey America. We are a melting pot. Stop the un-american racism now!

    September 5, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Unfortunately racism is as American as apple pie.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • south4evr

      And convert to Islam or be killed is not racism? That is what the Koran decrees! I'll be tolerant of Islam right after the first Christian church opens in Mecca!!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Amniculi

      @South, I don't have to look past your name to realize that anything you say can be disregarded.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Huebert

      @Amniculi

      Not all Southerners are as bigoted as you.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • SomeNameHere

      Hey south4evr, Just because something's written in a book doesn't mean it's a real threat to you. Likewise, your bible has plenty of horrible statements too that aren't a threat to you either.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Maybe not, but someone with the handle "South4evr" is definitely more bigoted than I. Yes! Let's return to the good 'ol antebellum days of slavery and "the white man's burden"! Shame on you, Huebert, for sticking up for someone such as this.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • Huebert

      @Amni

      I'm not sticking up for him. I'm calling you a bigoted little sh!t for your blanket baseless generalizations about the south and southerners. Only insult your target their is no need for attacking a whole group of people.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Bravo on the name-calling. However, my accusations were not baseless. Look at any of his other posts and you will see that I am justified. I never made any blanket statements about southerners. The handle "south4evr" is indicative of the person.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • Huebert

      What you said was "@South, I don't have to look past your name to realize that anything you say can be disregarded."

      This implies that you believe that anyone that would put "south" in their handle i.e. someone form the south, has nothing to offer the conversation. Also now that I have read his other comments I agree with your initial as.sessment, applied to this particular individual, But those post did not exist at the time of your initial post.

      Though I do apologize for my language, Anti-southern bigotry is something I have to deal with daily. It's a raw spot for me and in this case I was overzealous with my accusations. Sorry.

      September 5, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
  18. peninsula p

    Ignorant, uninformed, fearful, gullible, uneducated, xenophobic, racist, and irrational masses. THAT's a threat to our democracy.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • WOTAN

      then your democracy was in threat since day 1, when only white male property owners could vote. you might like admitting the truth, but the truth is that for all practical puposes white men built this country, its industry, its science, its military, its agriculture, etc. – it was NOT built by a plethera of races and cultures and it was NOT built with a variety of languages. it was also NOT built by importing manufactured goods. this is written, and I am that I am.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • ian

      sounds like you really hate america and the peeps who live here. if it sux so bad for you here, move to another country.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
    • Btru

      Every society will have it's simpletons. Most are only trying to protect their family. It the educated, well funded people who prey on the weak that are scary.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
  19. Peter

    Americans always seem to need a boogy-man religion.

    In the late 1800s it was The Catholics and The Jews. Read up on some of the chillingly similar things that were said about those two groups among Americans.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Islam religion of TERROR

      Islam is the "boogie man". Do you know Allah is refereed in the Koran as the" Great Deceiver"

      September 5, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • mjugger

      thank you. it seems every generation has a "boogey man" developed for the masses to distract them from the real issues (un employment, property, political corruption, debt, and on and on and on ) its a political tactic present in every country on the planet.

      when ever there is unrest in a nation's people and the true isses start to become apparent (usually issues politicians can't or have a hard time fixing ) an enemy is created to distract the people long enough for the issues to either be fixed or be swept under the rug

      September 5, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • ian

      i'd so much rather have have muslims in america, than knee-jerk politically correct types.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • mjugger

      @Islam religion of TERROR

      that would be the devil that is referred to as "the Great Deceiver" but then you knew that right? i mean you read the book front to back (all 114 chapters) including commentary right?

      i mean you couldn't have just pieced what you know from google and then started posting it here right?

      September 5, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • south4evr

      The only boogey man religion that I know of is the Reorganized Church of Tibetan Cheese Worship!! That is a scary bunch!! Boogie, oogie, oogie on down!!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
    • Btru

      Many goverments have used fear tactics to promote themselves, not just america.

      September 5, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  20. Amniculi

    If American Christians want to be afraid of something they should be afraid of the atheist/agnostic voting bloc. We're a much larger percent of the population than Muslims.

    September 5, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • karl

      and we will continue to grow....

      September 5, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
    • William Demuth

      And far more educated!

      September 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
    • ian

      but sadly, muslim dudes are soooo much cuter. just sayin...

      September 5, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • mjugger

      yeah but christians have a long history of this type of behavior. the dark ages didn't come about because people just stop wanting to learn, it happened because of fear mongering sh!t like this. and for people who want to blame europe and not christians, guess what, it followed them hear to the new world (selem witch trials)

      September 5, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • ensense

      Amin Cutli Atheist and Agnostics don't have a book which tells time to kill me for not believing in it, I would happily let my kids become either, I don't care. whereas your holy book does. and stop pretending you are not a Muslim.

      September 6, 2012 at 1:52 pm |
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