Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles Muslims
The ruins of a mosque in Joplin, Missouri, after a fire last month that Muslims leaders suspect was an arson.
September 5th, 2012
01:19 PM ET

Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles Muslims

By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) -
When the nation pauses to remember 9/11 next week, a group of Tennesseans will gather at the Embassy Suites Hotel in Franklin for a commemoration. But it will be more than that.

On the program, called "The Threat in Our Backyard," is a lecture on Islam in public schools and a short film on Sharia finance.

It's a program organized by people who feel the American way of life is threatened by Islam - in particular, Sharia, or Islamic law.

Sharia would bring ruin to America, says Greg Johnson, vice president of the 9/12 Project Tennessee, a sponsor of the event that advocates for shifting government back to the intent of the Constitution's authors.

He says he has nothing against Muslims, but he takes issue with the tenets of Islam.

Sharia, he believes, would mean that practicing homosexuals would be put to death, women would not be educated and would be married off to men chosen by their fathers, and non-Muslims would become kafirs - nonbelievers - relegated to second-class citizenship.

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"And I don't want that coming to America," Johnson says.

He's not alone in his fears.

A tide of anti-Islam sentiment has been swelling across America in recent months, strong enough to prompt one imam to wish for the days immediately after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks when President George W. Bush declared that Muslims were not our enemies; that the war on terror was against a select few who acted upon their hate for America.

"In the 11 years since, we have retreated," says Abdullah Antepli, the Muslim chaplain at Duke University who likes to call himself the Blue Devil Imam.

Muslims make up less than 1% of the U.S. population. Yet, say Muslim advocates, they are a community besieged.

Hate crimes against Muslims spiked 50% in 2010, the last year for which FBI statistics are available. That was in a year marked by Muslim-bashing speech over the Islamic center near ground zero in Manhattan and Florida Pastor Terry Jones' threats to burn Qurans.

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Antepli likens the current climate to McCarthyism. Left unchecked, he says, anti-Muslim fervor, like racism and anti-Semitism, has the potential to evolve into something dangerous.

This year's holy month of Ramadan, which ended August 19, was marred by a spate of violence at U.S. Islamic centers that included a fire, a homemade bomb and pig parts. The incidents were unprecedented in scale and scope, says the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

At least seven mosques and one cemetery were attacked in the United States during Ramadan, according to the council and other groups that track such incidents.

Particularly visible on the anti-Muslim radar has been the state of Tennessee, where a mosque opened during Ramadan after two years of controversy. The new Islamic center in Murfreesboro opened a few weeks ago after delays caused by legal wrangling, community protests and vandalism.

Also in Tennessee, incumbent congresswoman Diane Black found herself publicly opposing Sharia after her opponent Lou Ann Zelenik made it a campaign issue.

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State senatorial candidate Woody Degan's website also mentions Sharia:

"VOTE CONSERVATIVE! VOTE Anti-Sharia, VOTE Against Internet Taxes, Vote FOR Gun Carry Rights! VOTE for your PERSONAL RIGHTS!"

And Gov. Bill Haslam recently came under fire for hiring lawyer Samar Ali, a Muslim woman from Tennessee, to work in the international division of the state's economic development department.

Ali's critics called her Sharia-compliant and a website called Bill H(Islam) attacked the governor for pursuing "a policy that promotes the interest of Islamist (sic) and their radical ideology."

The website links to another that discusses, among other things, Islamic infiltration of public schools.

"I cannot stress enough the seriousness of their push to spread their religion to all non-Muslims throughout our country," says website author Cathy Hinners, another speaker at next Tuesday's 9/11 event in Franklin.

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"Why? Why are Muslims so adamant that we accept their religion? The answer is simple. The answer is in black and white. The answer is in the Muslim brotherhoods "Strategic Goal for North America." It's called a global caliphate. One religion, one government, one law... called Sharia."

In November 2010, more than 70% of voters in Oklahoma approved a ballot initiative to amend the state's constitution that banned courts from looking at "legal precepts of other nations or cultures. Specifically, the courts shall not consider international law or Sharia law."

The amendment died after a federal court ruled it discriminatory.

"That was very explicitly anti-Islamic," says Glenn Hendrix, an Atlanta lawyer who specializes in international law. "It specifically referenced Sharia."

This year, 33 anti-Sharia or international law bills were introduced in 20 states, making it a key issue. Six states - Louisiana, South Dakota, Kansas, Arizona, Louisiana and Tennessee - adopted such laws prior to 2012.

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Two Tennessee lawmakers attempted to pass a bill this year that would have made it a felony to practice Sharia, but it failed.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations says the anti-Sharia bills are based on draft legislation promoted by David Yerushalmi, an anti-Islamic lawyer from New York.

Yerushalmi founded the Society of Americans for National Existence, an organization devoted to promoting his theory that Islam is inherently seditious and Sharia is a "criminal conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups.

"Ideally," says the center, "he would outlaw Islam and deport its adherents altogether."

Hendrix says anti-Sharia legislation is not necessary since U.S. courts ultimately are beholden to U.S. law.

But it sends a strong message to the Muslim community.

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The American Bar Association, which opposes federal or state laws that impose blanket prohibitions on foreign laws, says such legislative initiatives stigmatize an entire religious community and "are inconsistent with some of the core principles and ideals of American jurisprudence."

Valarie Kaur, a legal advocate and hate crimes specialist, says proponents of anti-Sharia bills are battling an imaginary threat.

"There is no push to install Sharia law in the U.S.," she says. "Anti-Sharia bills target the religious principles of Muslim Americans and fuel anti-Muslim rhetoric and bias. As a Sikh American whose community has too often become the target of hate, I believe it's time to stand against all forms of racism and religious bigotry."

An attack at a Wisconsin Sikh temple last month killed six people. Many believe the shooter mistook Sikhs for Muslims. A Sikh gas station attendant in Arizona was the first victim of reprisal after the 9/11 attacks.

Kaur blames tough economic times and an amplification of hateful speech for incidents like the temple shooting and the momentum behind the anti-Sharia campaign.

For Muslims, Sharia - which means "path to the watering hole" in Arabic - is the divine law revealed centuries ago in the Quran that governs all aspects of life. More often than not, it's the most sensational parts of Sharia - like cutting off a thief's hand - that garner the most publicity.

U.S. courts bump up against it in cases of divorces, inheritance, child custody, enforcement of money judgments and commercial disputes or tort actions.

A trial court in New Jersey, for instance, ruled that a husband, who was Muslim, lacked the criminal intent to commit sexual assault on his wife because Sharia permits a man to have sex with his wife whenever he wants.

That's the kind of ruling that fuels anti-Sharia activists.

Nashville health-care investor Andrew Miller says there's no room for democracy within Islamic ideology. All you have to do is look to any Islamic state, he says.

"If you wanted to pray to a large rock and that was your God, I could care less," he says. "But the minute you want to put a gun to my head and say you will pray to this large rock and your family will or you will pay the price, that's when I see a bully. I see an overbearing ideology that wants to force and coerce people.

Miller describes himself as a tolerant person but not when it comes to people dictating how others will live.

"That's antithetical to the freedoms that we value, the liberty we value," he says.

The message that Islam is evil has been repeated so many times - sometimes directly, sometimes in a more subtle fashion - that it has sunk in as reality in the hearts and minds of many Americans, says Antepli, the Duke chaplain.

Part of it is fear of the unknown, he says.

"I, too, would have a monstrous image of Islam if I did not know any better."

But another part of it is orchestrated, he says, referring to "well-organized and polished" anti-Islam websites that have sprouted in recent years. Marry that with ignorance and the end result is lethal, Antepli says.

The Center for American Progress, a liberal research and advocacy organization, published a report last year that attributed the rise of Islamophobia to a "small, tightly-networked group of misinformation experts."

The report called "Fear, Inc." lists seven foundations that gave $42.6 million to think tanks to promote anti-Islamic thought.

It describes "deeply intertwined individuals and organizations" that "manufacture and exaggerate threats of 'creeping Sharia,' Islamic domination of the West, and purported obligatory calls to violence against all non-Muslims by the Quran."

The issue of Sharia, say some Muslims, has become a political hot potato in an election year.

GOP candidates Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann mentioned Sharia in their campaign speeches. This year's Republican Party platform makes mention of foreign laws:

"Subjecting American citizens to foreign laws is inimical to the spirit of the Constitution. It is one reason we oppose U.S. participation in the International Criminal Court. There must be no use of foreign law by U.S. courts in interpreting our Constitution and laws. Nor should foreign sources of law be used in State courts' adjudication of criminal or civil matters."

That's the message Miller hopes people will take away from next week's 9/11 meeting; that the tenets of Islam go against the constitution of the United States.

It's diametrically opposed to what people like Antepli and Kaur will be saying as America remembers the horror of terrorism. Hateful sentiment, they say, is not the answer.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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soundoff (2,383 Responses)
  1. American man

    Scaring people from Sharia in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA !!!....in a country which does not even have a 2% muslim population....you got to be kidding me !!!
    Sharia or the islamic law is not even practiced in muslim majority countries like Pakistan or Indonesia. Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world which practices Sharia, that too only to a certain extent.
    Only a really dumb person can be mislead with all this Anti- Sharia propaganda.
    Gaining political mileage or cheap publicity out of scaring people of Sharia is pathetic. It is as if trying to get popular by scaring people of a possible invasion from Mars....a threat which does not exist in the real world.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • Kafir4Life

      Don't really get it..Shariah = good? Bad?

      September 6, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      True teaching's of Israelite Hebrew were no religion, nor did son of blessed Mary crossed the line, hindu Jew's pagan secular s of Egypt pretended to be Israelite, opposed original teachings of Theen Ellah, consti tuiton of truth absolute propogated on hindu Judaism, filthy secularism, Hebrew's had no religion but Theen Ellah, consti tuion of truth absolute, religions are hinduism corruption of Theen Ellah or Allah, to promote hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism. Visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/blog.html to learn more.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • American man

      @ kafirforlife.......why do you have to bother about Sharia being good or bad ....are you planning to practice it....If you really want to know what Islam/ Muslims or Sharia is, do not ask about it to random people on the internet. Read about it in the Quraan and ask God to guide you to the right path and you will find out if Sharia is good or bad

      September 6, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
    • Achmed The Dead Terrorist


      (did I scare you?)


      September 6, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
  2. jaleel shakir

    What non-sense this is, no-where in America is any-one being forced to accept Islam against there will, and sharia law is
    a non-issue. Intelligent people judge the religion by what the Qur'an says, not what they see are hear some nut says are did.
    Know the religion first for yourself and don't follow the racist rhetoric and fear mongering being spread by those who are

    September 6, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      Hmm.. surprising. I understand now that Islam is the religion of peace, and all Quran teaches is how to love lthe Jews and infidels. Thanks.

      But then it looks like 99% of muslims are flollowing the wrong ideology!

      September 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      American Independence was declared based on Shariya or Theen Allah, consti tution of truth absolute and enshrined in as God, American fundamental, only hindu's ignorant s can dispute truth absolute in their hinduism, ignorance. please visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/blog.html to learn more.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Read Quran before spewing your hinduism absurdity about Islam, hindu, ignorant. visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/blog.html to be educated.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:28 pm |
    • shawn

      See France. And racist rhetoric? What race would that be sir?

      September 6, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Achmed The Dead Terrorist


      September 6, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
  3. Crossfire

    There is one BIG difference in the religion of Islam that singles it out from other religions. HATE. They want an Islamization of the whole world, and to do that, it is through a bloody conquest, not a peaceful one. They value death over life. They deny that Jesus is the Son of God, and the Word says that is the spirit of antichrist. Jesus said that you can know a tree by the fruit it bears, and the fruit of Islam is a fruit that will behead any that oppose it. We have to stop the spread. We have to come back to Jesus!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • martin smith

      Google search

      September 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      "Martin Smith", (aka Mohammed Yousuf Al-Isthani), I was told before that it was the USA?

      September 6, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Your argument is no different than a hindu criminal calling his punishment for his hinduism, crime, HATE, please visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/blog.html for more.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • jfairweather

      I thought that hate is what radical Christians are doing against Muslims these days.

      September 7, 2012 at 1:58 am |

    it does not shock me that certain people here use hate of Muslims and other minorities to mask their own frustration with their own insecurities about themselves....its human nature...people do it everywhere...for every bigot in America..there are 10 reasonable people

    September 6, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
    • Observer

      We are all flawed, even the so-called reasonable people.

      September 7, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
  5. more2bits

    If mankind eradicated this virus called religion–mankind might have hope.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      Specifically, eradicate the virus called Isam- 90% of the world's problems are solved.
      How about this- All except just one (that is Sri Lanka) of world's active conflicts involve muslims.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  6. more2bits

    Atheists are already relegated to 2nd class citizens by religions gone nuts in America.

    All religious people are bigots by nature.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Anyone who chooses a 2nd class life should not be surprised to find that folks regard them as such.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • more2bits

      Thank you for exactly defining my point that all religions people see others as the problem–not the solution.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      more2bits, I am ashamed of you. It is no more valid to lump all religious people into the same category than it is to lump all Muslims together. If there were no religion people would fight over philosophy, competing scientific theories or political. Try not to be as simplistic as the people you are criticizing.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
  7. Steven

    Doctor Alan Sabrosky believes that Israel did 911 and I think he is correct. Therefore the cheap way out is for the western world is to back away from the middle east diplomaticly, financially and militarily and let the heretics of Judaism and Islam settle their differences without restraint or any kind of western support.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • ensense

      There are a 1000 more Dr who believe otherwise. You believe your madarasa brainwashing. I will believe my facts.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  8. Maine Hunter

    A Liberal, a Muslim and a Red Neck were playing golf. The stumbled upon a very old lamp. A Genie popped out and said "each of you gets one wish." The Liberal said, I wish that me and all liberals could go abroad and live in poverty with our 3rd world brothers and sisters. The Muslim said, I wish me and all muslims could go back to our Muslim countries and make love to our favorite camels forever. The red neck said, "well since the liberals are leaving this country, and the Muslims are leaving this country...I wish for a diet pepsi!"

    September 6, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      That was hilarious the first time I heard it and I still like it.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  9. Reason Abel

    The best thing muslims in this country could do is reach out to their extremist counterparts around the world and tell them to handle their business. Muslims in America aren't the problem, it's muslims everywhere else.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • Kafir4Life

      Assuming obviously that American I slam is different than I slam everywhere else!!!

      September 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
  10. YERDADDY99

    is it a shock that all the states mentioned were red southern or midwest states...that also rank as the poorest and least educated?....Jesus is ashamed of Americas so called Christians

    September 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • bruceben9

      i would bet that jesus is more ashamed of you. you are an embarassment to humanity.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Don't mind BB9, YD99, he's just upset because his double-wide trailer got foreclosed on, he had to move into a single-wide and he is out of beer money. Just a very simple soul lost and afraid in a world he never made.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • YERDADDY99

      bruceben9...i guarantee i would destroy you in any debate.....Jesus was Liberal and would love Muslims...since Muslims revere him....extremists exist in all societies...even here in the US...deal with your hate..it probably has more to do with your own shortcomings than with Muslims

      September 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • ensense

      YD99 the question is not if Jesus would love muslims. The question is if the Muslims would kill him before the Pharisees if he said he did not believe in Allaha.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • Observer

      Gee, guess you'd be shocked that the most educated and wealthy states also have the highest incidents of violent crime.

      September 7, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
  11. Steve S

    Smaller minds are always trying to brand someone....The Bogeyman.
    The Nazis had the Jews
    The American Right has the Muslims.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
    • ensense

      Like wise your Muslim brothers have the west.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • Kafir4Life

      More Like the mu slims have the rest of mankind

      September 6, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
  12. Hussein

    For all you hating on Islam...stop criticizing Islam and just pick a copy of the Quran and read it for yourself.
    Ppl usually fear what they dont know. Get to know Islam and also read the biography of prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and the other prophets as well.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Hussein, they aren't going to do that. Please share with us what Islam means to you.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      FYI- The more they read from quran, the more alienated they become from Islam. If you promote reading from it hoping that some will be turned to Islam by reading it, it could backfire.I started reading it, but stopped after a while, since 90% of what I was reading was just plain hate towards Jews, how they were like pigs and exhorting to kill them. Disgusting book.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • Shakira

      Your world must be a scary little place Copenshaw. Full of fear and hatred, sad really.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Islam is not a religion , but Theen Allah, Consti tution of truth absolute, Allah, The limit absolute 360* foundation of existence and foundation of Judaical system around the globe, including consti tution of USA, based on Truth absolute identified as GOD. rest of it is hinduism ignorance of hindu Jew's, filthy secular s to deny truth absolute, Allah. Visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/ to learn more.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Copenshaw---–No need to hind, lie hindu, lair, very little part of Quran speaks of hindu Jew's criminal secular's. End justifies the means, is your way to make your hindu ignorant point.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Hunduism, please learn English or go blog on a Hindi web site.

      Bruceben9, Give me an actual list of countries. Global scale is not specific enough. For example, Muslims are not causing trouble in Turkey or Malaysia both of which are ruled by an huge Muslim majority. In both countries there are more women attending college than Men. In both countries Sariah law is forbidden in the criminal system and only allowed in civil courts if all parties to the dispute agree. Name some countries.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
    • bruceben9

      there sure is plenty to hate. you can thank the hundreds of thousands of extremists in your midst and you can blame the millions of the so called moderate muslims because of the deafening silence they show us every single day time after time when your taliban brothers behead party goers or the like and the (ha ha) moderates say next to nothing. get lost hussein.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    • more2bits

      It's the most bigoted book in history and hiding under the guise of 'religion'.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
    • ensense

      Hussain if you believed so much in your book. why is Islam a one way street. You know in your heart that if you let people do what they wanted they would do it. It is only fear and intimidation which keeps them in.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  13. Copenshaw

    How come? Americans must be loving Moslems more, especially after 9/11!

    September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Do you hate all Catholics because of the actions of some pedophile apostate priests?

      September 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      Social capitalist- No christian will support what they did. But Moslems support what they did on 9/11.
      Plus, Moslems should support what the priests did. It is something Mohammed the pedophile prophet (may his name be glorified) showed by example!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
    • Shakira

      You are a bigot Copenshaw and its Muslims not Moslims. If you are going to try and insult a group, at least spell the name right.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      Shakira- You go after spelling and such, when you have nothing of point to say.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Copenshaw is really a jihadist infiltrator recruiting for the taliban. Or he just hates Muslims more than he loves his country. Can't really be sure which.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      Talk about me. I know you do not want to talk about your cult and the sicko who created it.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Don't speak of Jesus that way.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
    • Kafir4Life

      @social capitalist: moha mmed wold be so proud of catholic priest he would consider becoming one

      September 6, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
  14. Social Capitalist

    For those Islamaphobes which keep quoting what you believe to be the most problematic Koranic verses from your favorite problematic translations of the Koran, I will let you in on a secret. The Bible has it's own problematic scriptures. That is if you insist on a particular translation (G*D really didn't hand it to King James from on high), and a simplistic literalist interpretation. I'll give you an example of why you can't point to any translation and say see that proves thus and such.

    Genesis says that G*D created the universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th, right? Wrong, it says that G*D created the everything in 6 yoms and rested on the 7th yom. Yom is the Hebrew word meaning an unspecified time period not a day.
    It can mean anything from a day to a geologic epoch. King James, being a Catholic, made his translators use the word day because he agreed with Catholic theology.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • bruceben9

      poor comment.. most folks don 't give a puke what's in 3000 or 2000 or 1500 yr old books. the fact is that islamic terrorists are wreaking havoc on a global scale. not so from judaism oir christrianity in today's world despite the lies of the hate spewing anti semites and jesus bashers. and mr. reality, what a poor name from someone so distanced from reality, what are you? about 6yrs old.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Quran is written with letter Q, Quantified, one has to know instance to understand Quran, meaning path of truth absolute quantified, there is no comparison between book of hindu Mithra ism, savior ism Bible and Quran. For more visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/

      September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
    • ensense

      Looking at the above post from someone degrading Hinduism in the moniker itself, you expect American to treat you fair. but you can be as bigoted as you want, that my dear is the real face of ISLAM.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      ensense – I am a Pakistani Shia muslim and I hate Hindus, Jews, Christians, Gays, and lesbians. Do you have any problem with that?

      September 6, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
  15. hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

    Book of hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism has no credibility to justify hindism terrorism of hindu Jew's, racist self centered pretending to be god's themselves, Israelite were Hebrew Ellah, dedicated to truth absolute, unlike hindu Jew's, criminal secular s of hindu, pagan Egypt and Persia and blood brothers of hindu Nazi's. No need to make bible, it never has been, book of turth and reject of son of blessed Mary Christianity is just a new label for hindu Visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/ to learn more.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Again, thanks for the spam, hinduism. I don't think it could possibly have been more unintelligible. Maybe if it were written in Sanskrit...

      September 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • Shakira

      Reading it in sandskrit would have been more interesting.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • bruceben9

      what??? quite the whack job you are, filthy.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      Visit http://www.limitisthetruth.com/ to understand or let me know what is so hindu, difficult.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • ensense

      You are a Pakistani turd, as are half the guys with christian names posting pro Islamic messages.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • Achmed The Dead Terrorist


      I KILL YOU

      September 6, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • hinduism source of hindufilthyracism.

      I am a Iranian follower Pakistani muslim. I support Jihad and I hate Hindus, Jews, Christians, you name it. I read, and slip with Quran. I hit my head on the floors five times a day. My brain is doing tut tut tut tut. Help me. I want to dump Mohammad but he is controlling my mind.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
  16. Social Capitalist

    In the United States, inside not outside, I am far more concerned about the real and present danger posed by radical Christian fundamentalists to our secular system of government, and democracy. Their are millions more Christian radicals than Muslim radicals in this country. They have already infiltrated the government, today, not tomorrow. They are already attacking science and women's rights, today, not tomorrow. They are trying to end the seperation of church and state, today, not tomorrow. They are already trying to have their theology taught in public schools, today, not tomorrow. Rather than being afraid of 1% of the population, we should be afraid of twenty percent of the population, 22% if you count Mormons who moved to Utah to establish their own independent theocracy in the first place, and are running a presidential candidate.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Well said.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      It is interesting that this is one of the few posts I've made that nobody has tried to dispute.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
    • ensense

      More diversion from the real topic tauquia. my friend?

      September 6, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Surely you have something better than that ensense. Is that all you have to say about America being rapidly taken over by Christian radicals?

      September 6, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
    • Kafir4Life

      Scienc fiction..poor "Christianophobe"!,

      September 6, 2012 at 6:23 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      I wish it were science fiction. Creationism, which is a theological theory not a scientific theory, is being taught in many American classrooms. Claiming that an egg or a fetus in the first trimester of pregnancy is a human being is a religious theory in disagreement with science. Mitt the twit Romney believes that American Indians are Jews in spite of DNA evidence proving otherwise. Radical Christians want to teach religion in school and force Atheist Children to pray in School. They want to post the 10 commandments at every courthouse. It's not science fiction is is a clear and present danger to our secular government and society, and it is here today not three or four generations from now.

      September 7, 2012 at 2:04 am |
  17. The Real Tom Paine

    Trust me, no one is requesting anything of you, other than to shut up.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
  18. Shakira

    Nothing warms my heart then coming on here at lunch and see the utter hatred towards Muslims on here when 98% of you have never even met a Muslim. You are so ignorant and make sweeping generalizations of 1.4 billion people. I fear for this country if most people can't even read a book and do some research. They would rather let others tell them what to think of Islam.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Sickening, isn't it? When I was in Iraq and Afghanistan the Muslim families I interacted with were some of the kindest and most generous people I have ever met.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      I would much prefer to have American Muslims teach us all about Islam. The radical Christians will just call you a liar, but you won't be speaking to them. You will be speaking to those they might persuade if you don't speak up.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
    • Shakira

      I have many questions about Islam from my friends and co-workers. They see as a Muslim, and an American and a rabid Alabama fan. They see no issue with Muslims in America. I talk with them only when they ask, if they ask for a book I get it to them. I have never pushed my faith onto them, only answered them when they had questions. My boss gives me time off for the afternoon prayer which lasts less then 10 mins and is cool with it. I vote, pay taxes, watch tv, play video games, pray 5 times a day, fast, give to charity, watch Alabama beat down Michigan and am American. Anyone who doesn't think am I is a bigot.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Thank you Shakira! We need at lot more posts like yours to counter this Islamaphobe Madness. I am a liberal Christian, and I say peace be unto you and your family!

      September 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      100% of all the Americans, if not the world, knew enough about Islam on 9/11. Thanks.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • Shakira

      What is that even supposed to mean?

      September 6, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      It means he is a dim-wit that thinks there is no difference between Coptic Christians and Baptists Protestants, or between Sunni radicals and Sufi pacifists. Just a tiny mind trying to cope with the complexities of the real world.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
    • ensense

      More Muslim back slapping of each other.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
    • Kafir4Life

      And of course you know for certain that the ones with negatove views about I slam never looked up the facts!!

      September 6, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
    • Kafir4Life

      There is 1.5B+ Christians in teh world that Quran says are kuffar and shold fought untill dead, converted or subjucated with Jizya...for the same logic you have a winner,,

      September 6, 2012 at 6:30 pm |
    • Alan

      shakira, it's sad to see people devoted to a religion they don't fully understand. I'm referring to you. Is it the warm feeling you get from the various outward religious trappings, or is it more the sense that you are "good" because you are sincere? You may want to actually READ the book you claim to revere. (oh, you DO read it? Then may I suggest you stop cherry picking the sura's you prefer to represent, and admit the hateful and murderous ones as well? Also, those that excuse lying and deception to non Muslims?) Muslims such as yourself remind me of lukewarm Christians who are in church every weekend, and have thier favorite Christian "gurus" (who tell them what "the book" says) but seldom if ever actually pick up a
      bible themselves. They're all about the "blessings of God" but couldn't quote you 3 verses in their entirety if their lives
      depended on it. They simply dont know WHAT they worship. But hey, they are "good" people, too! Sadly, thier religion ( like yours) is based primarily on what their favorite religious leader/pastor/Imam/Guru teaches. Defending your pride for your religious affiliation is truly fruitless, and makes any religion nothing more than a social club. Whereas, shouldn't TRUTH be our ultimate Spiritual goal?

      ultimate aim.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:37 pm |
    • Shakira

      Alan, I have read the Qu'ran, 3 times through so far. I spent over two years studying different religions to find my own path and Islam was the path for me. I have no desire to kill anyone who is not a Muslim nor force them to convert. I live a peaceful life with my family who are of varying faiths and we get along fine. When I chose to convert after two years of studying I looked at everything, what was cultural and was Islamic and can see the difference. Sadly many can not and just chalk it up to Islam when it is not. Why do I have to have people tell me to "Go Home" which is stupid seeing as I an American. The intolerance I find is not from Muslims, its from non-Muslims toward me based on one thing only, my religion. Nothing else.

      September 6, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • Observer

      Sweeping generalizations like, "98% of you have never even met a Muslim?" HIPPOCRITE!!!

      September 7, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
  19. Ken

    There are 1.7 BILLION Muslims in the world, and like most people they live a good respectful life. The middle east only comprises 20% of muslims and of which 4 of those countries have been in war in the past 10 years, so yes excuse them if they dont look too happy. only .00000000001% of a 1% of muslims from the 1.7 BILLION muslims are bad, and thats a fact no matter how much you want to hate and murder someone, thats the fact. How about we grow up and start talking about how we can create jobs, and strengthen the United States instead of talking about HATE and VIolence? How about we put money in better schools to educate our kids, I mean look at the un-educated people here and in our country who just want to murder and kill people because of their different beliefs? Lets talk about things that will advance our country and not take it back to the spanish inquisition era?

    September 6, 2012 at 3:11 pm |
    • Shakira

      The more educated someone is the less likely they will believe the hate mongering that is going on sadly.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Who says we're going back? IT could be here now. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

      September 6, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
    • Social Capitalist

      Good job Ken.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
    • Copenshaw

      Sounds like poor Moslems were thinking that Americans will love Islam more after 9/11!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • ensense

      Shakira what is the percentage of educated in the Muslim world and madarasa education does not count. Also do you allow a man to leave your religion if he wishes to. I mean in the Islamic majority countries.

      September 6, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
    • Reality

      Back to the nitty-gritty:

      What instigated the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon?

      And what drives today's 24/7 mosque/imam-planned acts of terror and horror?

      The koran, Mohammed and 1.7 billion of his followers'
      book of death for all infidels and Muslim domination of the world by any means.

      Muslims must clean up this book removing said passages admitting that they are based on the Gabriel myth and therefore obviously the hallucinations and/or lies of Mohammed.

      Then we can talk about the safety and location of mosques and what is taught therein.

      Until then, no Muslim can be trusted anytime or anywhere..................................

      o "Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
      "Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)

      "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)

      "...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

      "Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

      "It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)

      "If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

      "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

      "Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

      "Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)

      "'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)

      "Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)

      "Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)

      "Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

      "Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)

      September 6, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
  20. Reality

    And easy and peaceful solution (Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..)

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi----–

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    "1. Belief in Allah"

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

    "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

    "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
    be upon him) alone."

    Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    September 6, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Blah, blah, blah. Copy and paste should be diabled...

      September 6, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
    • Reality

      The short form for those who are reading-challenged (from a PowerPoint slide)




      Added details upon request.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • Amniculi

      Is your Cap.s Lock button stuck?

      September 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
    • Shakira

      Do you have to post this crap in every thread that even remotely mentions religion? Get a life man.

      September 6, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • Reality

      All caps were used for those who are reading-challenged.

      And as a good student, you have read the reiterations of the "fems" (flaws, errors, muck and stench) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Critical Thinking makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!

      If you do not want to be a good student, I recommend the scroll bar.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
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