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 The ruins of a mosque in Joplin, Missouri, after a fire last month that Muslims leaders suspect was an arson.
September 5th, 2012
01:19 PM ET
Rising anti-Islamic sentiment in America troubles MuslimsBy Moni Basu, CNN On the program, called "The Threat in Our Backyard," is a lecture on Islam in public schools and a short film on Sharia finance. It's a program organized by people who feel the American way of life is threatened by Islam - in particular, Sharia, or Islamic law. Sharia would bring ruin to America, says Greg Johnson, vice president of the 9/12 Project Tennessee, a sponsor of the event that advocates for shifting government back to the intent of the Constitution's authors. He says he has nothing against Muslims, but he takes issue with the tenets of Islam. Sharia, he believes, would mean that practicing homosexuals would be put to death, women would not be educated and would be married off to men chosen by their fathers, and non-Muslims would become kafirs - nonbelievers - relegated to second-class citizenship. My Faith: After my mosque was torched "And I don't want that coming to America," Johnson says. He's not alone in his fears. A tide of anti-Islam sentiment has been swelling across America in recent months, strong enough to prompt one imam to wish for the days immediately after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks when President George W. Bush declared that Muslims were not our enemies; that the war on terror was against a select few who acted upon their hate for America. "In the 11 years since, we have retreated," says Abdullah Antepli, the Muslim chaplain at Duke University who likes to call himself the Blue Devil Imam. Muslims make up less than 1% of the U.S. population. Yet, say Muslim advocates, they are a community besieged. Hate crimes against Muslims spiked 50% in 2010, the last year for which FBI statistics are available. That was in a year marked by Muslim-bashing speech over the Islamic center near ground zero in Manhattan and Florida Pastor Terry Jones' threats to burn Qurans. Why some American Muslims wear the hijab Antepli likens the current climate to McCarthyism. Left unchecked, he says, anti-Muslim fervor, like racism and anti-Semitism, has the potential to evolve into something dangerous. This year's holy month of Ramadan, which ended August 19, was marred by a spate of violence at U.S. Islamic centers that included a fire, a homemade bomb and pig parts. The incidents were unprecedented in scale and scope, says the Council on American-Islamic Relations. At least seven mosques and one cemetery were attacked in the United States during Ramadan, according to the council and other groups that track such incidents. Particularly visible on the anti-Muslim radar has been the state of Tennessee, where a mosque opened during Ramadan after two years of controversy. The new Islamic center in Murfreesboro opened a few weeks ago after delays caused by legal wrangling, community protests and vandalism. Also in Tennessee, incumbent congresswoman Diane Black found herself publicly opposing Sharia after her opponent Lou Ann Zelenik made it a campaign issue. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter State senatorial candidate Woody Degan's website also mentions Sharia: "VOTE CONSERVATIVE! VOTE Anti-Sharia, VOTE Against Internet Taxes, Vote FOR Gun Carry Rights! VOTE for your PERSONAL RIGHTS!" And Gov. Bill Haslam recently came under fire for hiring lawyer Samar Ali, a Muslim woman from Tennessee, to work in the international division of the state's economic development department. Ali's critics called her Sharia-compliant and a website called Bill H(Islam) attacked the governor for pursuing "a policy that promotes the interest of Islamist (sic) and their radical ideology." The website links to another that discusses, among other things, Islamic infiltration of public schools. "I cannot stress enough the seriousness of their push to spread their religion to all non-Muslims throughout our country," says website author Cathy Hinners, another speaker at next Tuesday's 9/11 event in Franklin. Why do Muslims pray five times daily? "Why? Why are Muslims so adamant that we accept their religion? The answer is simple. The answer is in black and white. The answer is in the Muslim brotherhoods "Strategic Goal for North America." It's called a global caliphate. One religion, one government, one law... called Sharia." In November 2010, more than 70% of voters in Oklahoma approved a ballot initiative to amend the state's constitution that banned courts from looking at "legal precepts of other nations or cultures. Specifically, the courts shall not consider international law or Sharia law." The amendment died after a federal court ruled it discriminatory. "That was very explicitly anti-Islamic," says Glenn Hendrix, an Atlanta lawyer who specializes in international law. "It specifically referenced Sharia." This year, 33 anti-Sharia or international law bills were introduced in 20 states, making it a key issue. Six states - Louisiana, South Dakota, Kansas, Arizona, Louisiana and Tennessee - adopted such laws prior to 2012. Two Tennessee lawmakers attempted to pass a bill this year that would have made it a felony to practice Sharia, but it failed. The Council on American-Islamic Relations says the anti-Sharia bills are based on draft legislation promoted by David Yerushalmi, an anti-Islamic lawyer from New York. Yerushalmi founded the Society of Americans for National Existence, an organization devoted to promoting his theory that Islam is inherently seditious and Sharia is a "criminal conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups. "Ideally," says the center, "he would outlaw Islam and deport its adherents altogether." Hendrix says anti-Sharia legislation is not necessary since U.S. courts ultimately are beholden to U.S. law. But it sends a strong message to the Muslim community. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories The American Bar Association, which opposes federal or state laws that impose blanket prohibitions on foreign laws, says such legislative initiatives stigmatize an entire religious community and "are inconsistent with some of the core principles and ideals of American jurisprudence." Valarie Kaur, a legal advocate and hate crimes specialist, says proponents of anti-Sharia bills are battling an imaginary threat. "There is no push to install Sharia law in the U.S.," she says. "Anti-Sharia bills target the religious principles of Muslim Americans and fuel anti-Muslim rhetoric and bias. As a Sikh American whose community has too often become the target of hate, I believe it's time to stand against all forms of racism and religious bigotry." An attack at a Wisconsin Sikh temple last month killed six people. Many believe the shooter mistook Sikhs for Muslims. A Sikh gas station attendant in Arizona was the first victim of reprisal after the 9/11 attacks. Kaur blames tough economic times and an amplification of hateful speech for incidents like the temple shooting and the momentum behind the anti-Sharia campaign. For Muslims, Sharia - which means "path to the watering hole" in Arabic - is the divine law revealed centuries ago in the Quran that governs all aspects of life. More often than not, it's the most sensational parts of Sharia - like cutting off a thief's hand - that garner the most publicity. U.S. courts bump up against it in cases of divorces, inheritance, child custody, enforcement of money judgments and commercial disputes or tort actions. A trial court in New Jersey, for instance, ruled that a husband, who was Muslim, lacked the criminal intent to commit sexual assault on his wife because Sharia permits a man to have sex with his wife whenever he wants. That's the kind of ruling that fuels anti-Sharia activists. Nashville health-care investor Andrew Miller says there's no room for democracy within Islamic ideology. All you have to do is look to any Islamic state, he says. "If you wanted to pray to a large rock and that was your God, I could care less," he says. "But the minute you want to put a gun to my head and say you will pray to this large rock and your family will or you will pay the price, that's when I see a bully. I see an overbearing ideology that wants to force and coerce people. Miller describes himself as a tolerant person but not when it comes to people dictating how others will live. "That's antithetical to the freedoms that we value, the liberty we value," he says. The message that Islam is evil has been repeated so many times - sometimes directly, sometimes in a more subtle fashion - that it has sunk in as reality in the hearts and minds of many Americans, says Antepli, the Duke chaplain. Part of it is fear of the unknown, he says. "I, too, would have a monstrous image of Islam if I did not know any better." But another part of it is orchestrated, he says, referring to "well-organized and polished" anti-Islam websites that have sprouted in recent years. Marry that with ignorance and the end result is lethal, Antepli says. The Center for American Progress, a liberal research and advocacy organization, published a report last year that attributed the rise of Islamophobia to a "small, tightly-networked group of misinformation experts." The report called "Fear, Inc." lists seven foundations that gave $42.6 million to think tanks to promote anti-Islamic thought. It describes "deeply intertwined individuals and organizations" that "manufacture and exaggerate threats of 'creeping Sharia,' Islamic domination of the West, and purported obligatory calls to violence against all non-Muslims by the Quran." The issue of Sharia, say some Muslims, has become a political hot potato in an election year. GOP candidates Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachmann mentioned Sharia in their campaign speeches. This year's Republican Party platform makes mention of foreign laws: "Subjecting American citizens to foreign laws is inimical to the spirit of the Constitution. It is one reason we oppose U.S. participation in the International Criminal Court. There must be no use of foreign law by U.S. courts in interpreting our Constitution and laws. Nor should foreign sources of law be used in State courts' adjudication of criminal or civil matters." That's the message Miller hopes people will take away from next week's 9/11 meeting; that the tenets of Islam go against the constitution of the United States. It's diametrically opposed to what people like Antepli and Kaur will be saying as America remembers the horror of terrorism. Hateful sentiment, they say, is not the answer. soundoff (2,383 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 Next »
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I am anti-pedophilia and anti-child molestation.
Islamic prophet Mohammed married a 9 year old girl, Aisha.
Many Christian fundiot nutters claim that Mary was about 13 when she goot knôcked up by the holy spoôk.
And 40,000 American children have been buggered by Roman Catholic preachers.
Jerry Lee Lewis married and boffed his 13 year old cousin.
"Great Balls of Fire", indeed!
The standard retort to the problems in Islam today is "but what about the others?" Priests are in defiance of Christianity when they the abuse children. Muslims who marry or abuse children are not - that is true from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan.
Where one is abhorrent to the faith, to Islam it is acceptable. That is one reason why sharia law, which if taken as a whole defends these practices is itself abhorrent.
People do get this right?
Cleanup Philly
What planet are you from?
The former Hitler Youth Pope was KNOWINGLY complicit in the molestation scandal.
He wont even travel to certain places out of fear of prosecution.
Demuth, it violates Christianity to abuse children. It is OK to marry children in the Koran. BIg difference, wouldn't you say?
While I don't ascribe myself to any particular dogma I think there are many wisdoms in all of them, providing of course they aren't being perverted by indiviuals. Islam like Christianity has been perverted by extremists, but that doesn't mean all of that faith are like that. its a blanket statement. You should always treat people based on who and how they are.
What is Islam in few lines is something everyone deserves to know, it is to believe and obey only one God.
In Quran God speaks to the whole humanity ....
“Proclaim, He is the One and only GOD. The Absolute GOD. Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten. None equals Him." [112:1]
“They even attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.” Quran [6:100]
“The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.” Quran [3:59]
“No soul can carry the sins of another soul. If a soul that is loaded with sins implores another to bear part of its load, no other soul can carry any part of it, even if they were related. ... [35:18]
It does not befit God that He begets a son, be He glorified. To have anything done, He simply says to it, "Be," and it is. [19:35]
God will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside God?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.[5:116]
The Messiah, son of Mary is no more than a messenger like the messengers before him, and his mother was a saint. Both of them used to eat the food. Note how we explain the revelations for them, and note how they still deviate! [5:75]
(they are condemned) for disbelieving and uttering about Mary a gross lie. [4:156]
Thanks for taking time to read my post. Please take a moment to clear your misconception by going to whyIslam org website.
I read every word and I can't believe someone in this day and age can read that kind of stuff and believe it just because it was written. Do not be insulted but it is as riddled with false assumptions and untruths as many of the teachings of the old testament. Modern societies are secular. Primitive societies still continue to practice traditions that have blindfolded them since the darkest days of ignorance and animal like behavior. I do not belong to one thank goodness. I am free and enlightened and I am allowed to be so. You can not reason by faith and also be logical. It is OK to give up a false faith.
That's lovely but there are quite a few lines of the Koran that are not only followed widely in the Muslim world, but are the rule of law that trumps all other law.
Those lines of the Koran defend child marriage, wife beating, violations of equal rights for women and those who are of another faith, warfare against non-Muslims, and more.
While you can argue the Bible is full of things no longer followed, the fact is that the Koran is strictly followed under pain of death in vast areas of the Muslim world.
There is no compatibility of Sharia, the rule of law derived from the Koran and hadiths, with Western secular law. To pretend it is possible is a trope of the Left that they have not fully though through.
We need to promote integration, not separation and backwardness.
Why is it that when an American tries to preserve their heritage they are considered anti-this or anti-that? The fact is I am not anti-muslim or anti-islam or anti anything. I am PRO-AMERICAN!!!! Read all of the works that the American founding fathers put out. Most of them say something about pronouncing God and His blessing on this nation.
We have since taken prayer out of schools and quit praying at most public gatherings, for fear of offending those who don't share our Christian beliefs. yet, we wonder why people are killing each other in theaters and schools. If thos who don't come to America don't want to worship God, in fact even those who are born in America and don't want to worship God, that's cool. Keep worshiping Satan and living a life of lies. but don't keep others from living their life of religious freedom because you feel guilt and shame every time you see someone pray or read the ten commandments.
Bottom line if Muslims want to come to America, then they need to adopt the American way of life and not expect America to cater to them at the expense of our freedoms. That is what is happening now.
Rick.
Have you ever read the drivel in your so called Holy Book?
If one in a hundred actually lived by it's bronze age nonesense, we would have long ago become extinct.
Religion was LOATHED by many of the slave keeping revolutionary anarchists you call the founding fathers, so much so that they commited treason and took up arms against the government
Rick, my thoughts precisely! Very nicely put!!!!!
Last I checked America was a nation of immigrants. The true American way would be to welcome Muslims with open arms as long as they kept their religion to themselves, just as Christians should.
@Rick
" Why is it that when an *American* tries to preserve their *heritage* they are considered anti-this or anti-that? "
When an *American* tries to preserve their *heritage*... which Americans and what heritage in particular are you speaking of ?
Peace...
The founding fathers wished America to be Secular not Religious. The separation of church and state was one of the greatest achievements of America.
By "American way of life" you seem to mean "adopt christianity".
The Statue of Liberty doesn't say "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free – so long as they're white, european and Christian".
Rick, the ignorance you spew is utterly amazing.
Did your ancestors, when they came to America, Anglicize their names to fit in so they wouldn't be targeted for abuse with the rest of the Jews, Slavs, Germans, Italians......?
thanks rick for the obligatory christian persecution statement.
the very definition of privilege: to claim discrimination when relegated to the same status as ones peers.
So when can we be expecting you to adopt the ways of the Native Americans? .....lest you be a hypocrite.
best response by apostate.. 🙂
Well said Rick.
It's a well known fact that religion is a mental illness.
Wow!!! can you cite some of your sources on this "well known fact"? I'd like to read what is being said about religion by the phsyciatric gurus.
Harvard Psychology Professor Steven Pinker on religion. Religion takes advantage of other cognitive process to persuade us into actions that do not come naturally to us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JILvK_fLTuY
Rick I just provided a very good source for pkfops claim, Steven Pinker can be argued to be the brightest and most respectedmind in psychology today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6zCKlgGOwQ&feature=watch_response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTT1yB7oRZ4&feature=watch_response
Pwnd
Logical and Reasonable thought on morality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xt5LtgsxQ&feature=relmfu
The nitty-gritty:
Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.
This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.
And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.
Current crises:
The Sunni-Shiite blood feud (e.g. Syria and also Iraq) and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.
replace Mohammad with, say, David.. and the post would make equal sense.. Interesting, eh?
Red flags, all.
You do bat-sh!t really well.
So was Bill Clinton!
Perhaps Mo should run for office!
Giving equal time:
Putting the kibosh/”google” on religion to include Islam:
• There was probably no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.
• There was probably no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.
prob•a•bly
Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.
• There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.
• There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.
• There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.
• Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.
• Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.
Added details available upon written request.
A quick search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.
e.g. Taoism
"The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.
Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother's womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. "
Snow.. yea interesting. But Jews dont consider David to be the most perfect human to live and they dont try to emulate him.
Now its getting more interesting eh?
tooDumb,
So muslims consider mohammad as perfect human? being a prophet itself puts him miles above any humans.. how can he be "perfect".. just curious about what you are trying to say..
But the Jews are not trying to blow people up. See how that works?
Well said Reality... But we no live in Reality... REMEMBER!? This is the new LIBERAL FANTASY LAND! 🙂
okso muslims actually do, and they do try to emulate him (Mohamed). Try drawing a picture of him and try to get it published, that will give you proof.
greg johnson is a wack who cant point to a single instance of sharia law superceding us law. its a scare tactic.
im really hating to see america has become a land of paranoia and stupidity
There are no instances of Sharia law insinuating itself into The American legal system, although there are instances of it throughout Europe, which is largely hailed as the cornerstone of Western Civilization. If you value democracy, then defend it.
ask people from non-moslem counries, Israel, India, who are putting up with these people everyday. don't be so naive.
That's actually not true. There are several cases in family law where a discriminatory and highly unfavorable sharia law contract was upheld outside of the rule of state law, such as in marriage, divorce, inheritance, business matters, and even free speech cases.
The media seriously downplays these, but if you are paying attention, you see it all over the US. When did it become acceptable to downgrade secular US law in favor of a foreign religious quasi-legal system with no standing in the US?
No one benefits when a woman inherits 1/3 of what a man does, or gives testimony that is worth 1/3 of a man's, or loses custody entirely of her children because sharia states she must in a divorce. No one benefits when freedom of speech shuts down debate. This debate would not be possible in Europe where criticizing Islam has become a crime.
The sharia does not espouse or protect Western values. There is no getting around the fact that you emphasize one at the expense of the other.
Johnny there are numerous examples in the US of sharia law being citied in US courts. Just google it. Heck even CNN covered some of these cases.
Freedom of speech in PA. Family law in NJ. Both judges were highly criticized for using sharia law to find against secular law in a courtroom.
Reblogged this on peace2alldotme.
Come to America. Your women will be free. Your laws will not apply here. You murder in the name of whomever then you sit in a cell while being praised by whomever (and whomever forbid if you live in texas they will kill you probably). If you want to live by your laws then go to a country that will recognize it. Your children will go to school and will marry whoever they wish living here.
I have no problem with religious freedom as long as it doesn't mean I have to follow or die. I really am not ready to convert to being a Muslim and if they were in charge I would have to. And by the way the still imprison and kill Christians in a few Middle Eastern countries. So I really don't know what to do. Maybe they should live somewhere else because if they practice their religion to the letter they would have to break out laws.
if the tenets of Quran is the reason for such violence, how is it that the religion specific violence is so low in Indonesia as compared to middle east?? I am not talking there is no religion specific violence in Indonesia, but comparatively, very very low.. why is that? Could it be because of the cultural differences ?
what kind of stupidity are you talking about??? please go learn history specially religion!
Snow has no idea of Bali, Ahamadis being killed, christians not being able to buitd a church near the vicinity of a mosque, christians not being able to preach freely or convert any muslims, beheading of christian school girls by muslims.. minorities being brutalized in Aceh all this in just your liberal Indonesia.
Religious zealots of every faith and denomination should be confronted and challenged.
Yes !
Islamic muslims are about as dumb as creationist.
People who believe in the Islam wants to create a caliphate are conspiracy theorists. Muslims peoples coming from countries ranging from Morocco to Indonesia, Africa, Europe and Asia...There is no single leader or no singular culture. Its like this, will a southern baptist follow the Pope?
Not really your preach that in your mosques, you are more faithful to the ummaha than any other country. You fundamentally teach your kids that they are different from the kuffar, this brainwashing starts from the day they are born.
Christian religion is a nonviolent passive religion! If you or someone is teaching otherwise then obviously they are not students of Christ or his teaching nor his religion!
There is just to much hate, distrust, greed, in the world, and that ain't coming from true Christians.
Have a nice day, who ever you are.
True Scotsman fallacy.. not that you would care!
What you define as a "true Christian" is entirely subjective, and Christians have committed some of the worst atrocities throughout history to date. e.g. The Inquisition, The Crusades and the slaughter of countless peoples across Europe and The Americas (yes, The Conquistadors acted on behalf of both Jesus Christ and The Queen of Spain). Fundamentalist Christians across America preach intolerance, rally for war and would impose the same draconian policies as fundamentalist Muslims if they could (and in many cases, they do, i.e. gay marriage).
When people say Christians in the past, or present time, have, or are doing wrong...they are right! Remember this if you don't remember anything: MAN will always let you down! That is exactly the reason Jesus Christ says He wants a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with you/me. We can make all the excuses we want. It is still and always will be free will. You owe it to yourself and your family to at least investigate God and the Bible.
Please go and read Christian history. Hitler was a Christian, Bosnian genocide was done by Christians, etc etc etc. Read the book BLOOD ON THE CROOS about the violent history of chrisitns killing christians and others.
When we are talking about violence committed in the name of Christianity, we are talking about history. When we talk about violence committed in the name of Islam, we are talking about the present.
Big difference, wouldn't you say? The truth is that there have been an enormous number of murders committed recently in the name of Islam, from the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria, to the persecution of Christians in Pakistan under their stone age blasphemy laws.
Where is the liberal outrage against that? That is why the Left in the US really appears to have lost its way.
Kaka Jesus says to Christian's if somebody slaps you then turn the other cheek (Christians don't do that that is a total different thing). Mohamed says slay the infidels where they exist and Muslims follow. With regards to violence there will always be men fighting and killing, but we have left fighting and killing for religion and it has become a fringe element, but in Islam it is the core issue.
Praise Allah... p-iss be upon him.
period, end of story.
They breed like rats.
Period. End of story.
"They breed like rats."
No more than the ignorant Christian fundiot nutters.
Last I checked the Duggars were Christian...
For a better understanding of the history of Islam and the spirit it serves (Luke 9:55) we invite you to read the articles ‘World History and Developments in the Middle East’ and ‘Clash of Civilizations’ listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca
All of the other pages and articles listed on our website explain how and by whom this whole world has been deceived as confirmed in Revelation 12:9.
Go sell crazy somewhere else... we're all stocked up here.
The debate is that all religions are "religion is a force for good in the world." Knowledge will win out in the end and we will be rid of the whole lot, if we survive long enough.
Why any muslim in their right mind would choose to live in a country whose people are ignorant, poorly educated, racist, bigoted, narrow minded, narcissistic, hateful, petty, shallow and hubristic is beyond me. Furthermore, why trade one oppresive police state for another? After all, there are no shortage of countries in this world (contrary to the beliefs of most Americans) where "freedom" exists.
If you are so against America and the people within the borders, get out. Go out in search of your "freedom".
Awwwwww..........did I hit a nerve............."patriot"?
William – If only more American Muslims believed as you do, they would all self-deport and do the US a big favor. Please copy and paste your post to as many forums as you can, because frankly we Americans don't care if you hate us, as long as you keep your hate (and your physical bodies) off our soil. Believe me, America can do without you!
Nationalists always have a problem with the truth.
Will, you know little about the Muslim world it is clear, nothing about life in a police state, and have no idea why Muslims flee their Islamo-fascist dictatorships and risk it all to locate in the US.
I'd love it if you tried hiking in Iran. You'd love it this time of year. I think some of your peers tried it already and had a bit of a rude comeupance.
We live in a country where uniformed policemen shut down the lemonade stands of children because they don't have the proper permits. Where the police beat a mentally-ill homeless man to death for no reason. Where uniformed cops showed up at the doors of children in the Boston area because their library books were overdue. Where perverts, sadists, misfits and sociopaths, gainfully employed by the TSA, routinely fondle, grope and humiliate the elderly and small children – all in the name of "security". Where you can be tracked and traced from your cell phone. Where your emails can be read and your phones monitored – all in the name of "security". Make of that what you will.