September 8th, 2012
10:00 PM ET

From Kurt Warner’s wife to ‘Christian famous’

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) – In a stadium filled with 8,000 evangelical Christian women, one person near the stage stands out.

Sporting short salt-and-peppered hair, broad shoulders and a high-collared shirt, the man sits calmly as ballerinas flutter across the stage, women tell jokes about menopause and the event’s emcee announces that almost all the men’s rooms at the Verizon Center in downtown Washington have been converted to female restrooms for the night, provoking a round of applause.

For Kurt Warner, former quarterback for the St. Louis Rams and Arizona Cardinals and two-time National Football League MVP, this is about as far away from the testosterone-driven world of the gridiron as you can get.

Onstage is the reason Warner’s here: Brenda Warner, her angular face and close-cropped blonde hair radiating in professional lighting, telling the audience about God’s plan for her life.

For years, Brenda was known as Kurt’s uber-supportive wife – a woman whose unflinchingly defense and championing of her superstar husband sometimes made news in it its own right.

Today, two years into Kurt’s retirement, those roles are changing.

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Brenda has become what some call "Christian famous" - a renowned evangelical speaker who tours the country with the likes of the 2012 Women of Faith tour, which will reach tens of thousands of Christian women with a message of hope and faith. As one of the tour’s headliners, Brenda will travel the country each weekend until November to tell her story – one of heartbreak, love and growth.

Through much of it, Kurt will be there with her, sitting in the audience as his wife does her thing before throngs of adoring fans.

“Brenda Warner is no longer Kurt Warner’s wife,” one awestruck woman says after listening to Brenda’s story at the Verizon Center. “Kurt Warner is now Brenda Warner’s husband.”

‘We need each other, we all have a story’

Brenda Warner’s story is a tear-jerker, whether or not you accept the God part.

When she was 18, she joined the Marine Corps, a job that took her from her hometown of Parkersburg, Iowa, to bases in Japan and in Virginia Beach, Virginia – where she would marry another Marine and give birth to a baby boy.

When Brenda begins to explain her life to the crowd in Washington, women applaud for the lines about joining the Marines and having baby Zachary.

Then the story takes a dark turn.

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While working one day in Virginia Beach, Brenda got a phone call that changed her life. Her husband had dropped Zachary on his head, an accident that would leave their toddler legally blind and developmentally disabled. Speaking in Washington, Brenda recounts the scene at the hospital.

“Zachary had a seizure – they worked around him trying to stop it,” she says. “I did all that I knew to do – I called out, ‘Jesus, Jesus, let this be the last seizure.’”

A hush has fallen over the stadium. Women wipe tears from their cheeks; one has pulled her pink T-shirt over her eyes.

She and her husband struggled to make things work with Zachary, Brenda continues. She got pregnant again, she tells the audience, but when she was a month from her due date her husband told her he had feelings for another woman. “I got out of bed, I called home and said mama come get me,” she says. “He doesn't love me, after all that we have been through.”

Brenda became a registered nurse, largely to learn how to better cope with Zachary’s condition. To make ends meet, she stood in line for food stamps and moved out of her parent’s basement and into low-income housing.

Then, another bombshell.

One night in 1996, Brenda’s sister called to report that their mother and father, who had retired to a cabin in Arkansas, had been killed in a tornado. Their house had been wiped off the map.

“They were always my soft place to fall,” Brenda tells the crowd.

At this point, the woman with her head in her T-shirt is a sobbing headless body. But as quickly as she has just dropped the mood, Brenda builds it up by telling the women that God brought her through it all.

“I married that football player,” she says, gesturing toward Kurt. “He adopted my two and we have five more.” Tears are giving way to applause.

Kurt and Brenda Warner first met when Kurt was playing college football at University of Northern Iowa.

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Near the end of the speech, Brenda brings Zachary out to say hello to the crowd.

“If you have ever felt like life has cheated you, stand up with me,” Brenda says. “If you have ever felt disappointed in life, stand with me. If you have ever received a call that changed your life forever, brought you to your knees and took your breath away, look around, we are all in this together, we need each other, we all have a story.”

Afterward, many women say they saw themselves in Brenda’s story.

“She is just a normal everyday mom raising a family just like everybody,” says Sena Hohman, her two daughters accompanying her to the event. “Hearing these stories, you find out she is just like me, with ups and downs in life, with peaks and valleys.

“To be able to see somebody has overcome” what she has, said Judy Gerlitz from Centerville, Virginia, “shows me that I can do it.”

Super Bowl champion, philanthropist

When she’s offstage, Brenda and Kurt often operate as a team in their faith-based work.

On the recent Friday morning before Brenda addresses the Women of Faith conference, the couple find themselves in a small, bland conference room in downtown Washington.

Kurt takes notes while Brenda’s eyes stay fixed on the architect who’s briefing them. The topic: plans for a multi-apartment home for developmentally disabled young adults that the Warners want to build in their hometown of Scottsdale, Arizona.

The project is inspired by Zachary, now a 23-year-old high school graduate.

“Zach has probably impacted more people than all of us combined because there is something unique and special and honest about these individuals that see it like it is and call it like they see it,” Kurt says.

Zachary lives in a group house in St. Louis. The Warners are modeling the group home they’re building in Arizona, called Treasure House, on the St. Louis Life concept for independent living for those with special needs.

At the meeting in Washington, Kurt is very much in control, with the architect and a consultant urge the Warners to use Kurt’s celebrity to help raise funds. “Leverage your history,” the consultant says, looking at Kurt and talking football.

Kurt’s story, like Brenda’s, includes some letdowns. After going unselected in the 1994 NFL draft as a quarterback out of University of Northern Iowa, Kurt became a Hy-Vee grocery store stock clerk to make money. While stocking shelves, he signed with the Iowa Barnstorms, an Arena Football League team in Des Moines, Iowa. With his big arm and accuracy, he became an AFL star.

After a short stint with NFL Europe, Kurt became the third -tring quarterback for the St. Louis Rams for the 1998 season. In 1999, after an injury to the Rams’ starting quarterback, he got his chance. Leading the Rams to a Super Bowl XXXIV victory, Kurt won both the league and Super Bowl MVP award that year.

Kurt Warner drops back to pass in Super Bowl XXXIV, a game his St. Louis Rams defeated the Tennessee Titans, 23-16.

Brenda was there through all of it, from AFL to NFL. She and Kurt met while Kurt was attending college in Cedar Falls, Iowa, at a country bar where she was taking line dancing classes. She worried he wouldn’t be able to handle the fact she was divorced with two kids.

When he showed up the morning after their first date and said he wanted to meet her kids, Brenda says, “I feel in love with him before he fell in love with me.”

When Kurt led the Rams to their 1999 Super Bowl victory, not only was Brenda there - she became part of the story.

Brenda was vocally defensive of her husband when he had a bad game, even calling into radio stations to criticize the Rams coaching staff. That zeal and her on-camera postgame kisses for the star quarterback had some fans calling her the Yoko Ono of football.

Throughout his 12-year NFL career, Kurt was known for both his skill and overt faith. “Well, first things first,” Warner told a reporter after his first Super Bowl victory. “I've got to thank my Lord and Savior up above — thank you, Jesus!”

The interview provided a name for Kurt’s foundation, First Things First, which is “dedicated to impacting lives by promoting Christian values, sharing experiences and providing opportunities.” The group raises money, taking advantage of Kurt’s NFL connections, and organizes events for ill and developmentally disabled children.

Today, Kurt spends much of his time on such work. It’s why he’s talking building schematics instead of defensive schemes.

“My retirement isn’t quite like what people think about with retirement,” Warner says. “I am very busy and have a lot of things that I am active in. It is not a complete 180 from being gone every day to being home every day.”

But talking about civil engineering in a drab hotel conference room is a long way from the National Football League. The common thread: Brenda and their religious faith.

Bonded by faith

Kurt says he had wanted Brenda to pursue her speaking career for years. But while he rose to superstardom, Brenda was a stay-at-home mom.

Now that Kurt is home more, he says, Brenda is free to pursue her dreams.

“What we have realized is there are seasons in all of our lives and dreams take sacrifices but they become family things,” Kurt says. “Dreams are family dreams.”

Brenda and Kurt now work closely together planning the couple's newest philanthropic venture – Treasure House.

Armed with her story and the star power that comes with her last name, Brenda has carved her own path on the Christian speaking circuit. Asked about the Warners at the Verizon Center’s Women of Faith event, only a few of the attendees know about her famous husband.

The tour is marketed to evangelical women to “celebrate what matters,” and also features appearances by female evangelical authors and media personalities. The tour is like a conference, with sessions on different challenges women face.

Kurt and Brenda see their changing professional seasons as part of God’s plan for them. “I don’t think that is the way that I would have written it, but I see that God has worked it out for good,” Brenda says. “I can see how he has been faithful. I can say now I am grateful.”

Telling her story has become second nature for Brenda. She has become expert in pitching God as the cure to heartache.

“He called me by name, he loves me and he won’t leave me,” Brenda repeats in her speech. “God was true to his word that he wouldn’t leave me.”

And neither, it seems, will Kurt.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Sports

soundoff (1,654 Responses)
  1. Amanda

    To all the God-less wonders...again,
    You all are clicking again. And, don't blame CNN for not having a blog...create one of your own if it means so much.Seems all of you have a lot of time on your hands. How about voluteering at a homeless shelter; animal rescuer, Meals on Wheels driver, or any of the endless charities that need people who have some time to kill. But, beware, you might encounter a "God bless you" along the way. And, to "Jesus Christ," my Jesus Christ doesn't blog. He sees things and does things without the use of electronic devices.

    September 9, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • TC

      Hateful athiest know-it-alls need someone to attack and feel better abou themselves. Think about it. If you don't believe – why would you come to a forum regarding a religious article? Hate and disdain.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • MagicPanties

      Hey, my invisible pink unicorn doesn't blog either.
      We should hook her up with JC, I bet they have lots in common.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • Amanda

      Forgive me, I am a heel. I am an angry, nasty christian and I know that I'm a bully.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      Because TC, there are two sides to every story, not just the one you believe in.

      September 9, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • MagicPanties

      TC, here you go again.
      As I've said before, "Not" believing in some god is not the same as "knowing it all".
      Atheism means lack of belief, and does not in itself lay any claim to knowing anything.
      The burden of proof is on the theists, and they have none, even though they claim "to know".

      You, TC, appear to be the angry one.
      Do you still believe in Santa Claus? No? Then you must be a hateful person.
      (in case you missed it, I'm using the same 'logic' you are using)

      September 9, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
  2. MagicPanties

    "... he called me by name ..."

    Hearing voices in your head from imaginary beings is a sign of mental illness.
    My invisible pink unicorn will pray for this poor woman.

    September 9, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • TC

      Thinking you know it all makes you nothing more than arrogant and stu pid at its peak. Why so hateful little atheist troll?

      September 9, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
    • Bostontola

      The god delusion is hard to explain. Almost an entire species obsessed with an invented superior being.

      The weird part is, from an evolutionary perspective, belief in god is superior. They dominate over atheist individuals.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
    • MagicPanties

      TC, it is the believers that claim "to know it all".
      "Not" believing in some god is not the same as "knowing it all".
      Atheism means lack of belief, and does not in itself lay any claim to knowing anything.
      The burden of proof is on the theists, and they have none, even though they claim "to know".

      I said nothing hateful. You, TC, appear to be the angry one.
      Do you still believe in Santa Claus? No? Then you must be a hateful person.
      (in case you missed it, I'm using the same 'logic' you are using)

      September 9, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
  3. reader

    I'm glad that this lady is so strong after all that she's been through, but this is ridiculous. "My life was so bad and I was barely making ends meet until God turned it around for me!"

    God didn't turn your life around, dumb luck and marrying a rich man turned your life around. I can't stand people that view God as some kind of wish-granting fairy that goes around giving people money or college degrees. Give credit where it is due: to humans on Earth!

    September 9, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Couldn't say it better myself. I find the psychology of all this fascinating. People would rather equate tragedy to the plan of an invisible deity rather than saying her first husband was careless with their son and selfish with his marriage. And you're right...God didn't turn this around...meeting a rich, famous man did. But you have to admit...being a jesus freak and equating her current privileged state to a divine plan certainly keeps anyone from calling her a gold-digger (which she probably is not). What gets me is the corporate sponsors, books, DVD's, music CD's, insurance sales, and other efforts to fleece the weak-minded and line the pockets of those who would sell God as much as possible.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
    • Ann

      Do you really think you can rely only on HUMANS to help! forget it. I have had God's help for everything I pray for. He rules over humans. Try it, you'll find out. Sorry it took me so long.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • josh

      Your an idiot, did you not read the story?. He wasnt rich and famous when he adopted the kids and married her. He played part-time arena ball and stocked shelves in a grocery store. If religion doesnt work for you, more power to you. Everyone puts their faith in something, for her it was god and seems to work out fine. Bottom line is shes trying to give back....what have you done lately?

      September 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Ann, it was PEOPLE who helped her. Her family. Her new husband. The thousands of people throwing money at her to speak at these events. And it was people who made her husband rich, in addition to his teammates (people) and his own efforts (as a person). Why don't you accept this much simpler reasoning rather than inserting a deity into the cause-effect mix?

      September 9, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Josh, if she's truly giving back, why is she being paid rather well to do this? It's not like she needs the money. Why are the other speakers also being paid so much? Why are dozens of vendors there hawking jewelry, clothes, books, DVD's, and more? Why are there corporate sponsors like Amway and Nationwide Insurance? Are you going to tell me that THEIR motive isn't money?

      September 9, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
  4. albie

    this makes me ill - the cult of Christianity causes more harm than good

    September 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Bob

      Our medical, legal, government and education systems are rooted in Christian traditions. Christianity has unquestionably been the most civilizing force in the history of the world.

      Atheism on the other hand has given us Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Hitler, Napoleon.... More people have been killed by atheism is the past 100 years than in the history of all religious warfare. If you ask me, atheism has a lot to answer for.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • albie

      And I'm a big moron with nothing better to do on Sunday than post bigotry.

      Sure was fun!

      But I'm still a moron. And nothing can change that.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Bob, please explain to me how our medical system is rooted in Christian traditions,

      September 9, 2012 at 1:05 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Bob, you are WAY off base. Our medical advances have occurred IN SPITE of religion, not because of it. Most of our laws are based in logic and philosophy, not religion (in spite of continued efforts of believers to codify their beliefs into law). Our education system is also not rooted in belief. Math is not belief-based. Biology, Chemistry, and physics are not belief-based. History is also generally not belief-based. Neither is band, phys-ed, or geography. Soooo....where exactly did you get this idea of yours?

      Typical...believer = uneducated

      September 9, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  5. Brenda

    Brenda, "Look at me, look at me, look at me!!!!"
    Psychologist to Brenda, yes, you are narcissistic.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
  6. David

    Is her ministry about God or money?

    September 9, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Isn't it wonderful how knitting your brow and saying "Jesus" can be used so well for both?

      September 9, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      Last time I checked, God didn't really need corporate sponsors like Amway, nationwide insurance, and the books, DVD's, CD's, clothing, jewelry, an other products being hawked by the speakers at these events. Like I said earlier, if they get 4100 per person (registration fee) and 8,000 attend, that's nearly 1 million revenue right there. Add in the sponsorships and other products and I bet the total is MUCH higher. Now note that there are still 30 events on the calendar, and you're talking about a $30 MILLION business. Not to shabby to believe in something that only requires belief and a book written $2000 years ago. People are funny.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
  7. Byrd

    Evangelists are one the lowest form of human life, preying on the gullibility of those least able to interpret for themselves. I guess this god they worship just wasn't able to use language effectively enough to get his points across to everyone without self-anointed interpretres, like Falwell, Swaggert and now Warner to fill the Tammy Fae void.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • snowboarder

      you would think a universal truth would be just a bit more...well...universal.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
  8. tony

    Every religious leader there is, dodges or ignores this question.

    "Please explain the parting of the red sea and the slaughter of 200,000 plus innocents in the last two tsunamis."

    Of course, if you think about it, THEY HAVE TO. Otherwise it more than justifies atheism.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • snowboarder

      tony – nobody really cares.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • tony

      They care enough to fund a belief blog and fight to keep tax exemption for the world's greatest "con".

      September 9, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • Jesus Christ

      Tony, I agree with you and would like to hear the answer to your question. Christians are too afraid to question their fragile faith. But trust in the fact that you've sent many home to their trailers today, wondering if you are right.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • tony

      That's the idea. The questions are more powerful changers of society when not satisfactorily answered.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
  9. MrCurve

    I don't know why so many people have this disdain for believing in God. Believing in God never hurt anyone, but there has always been people who speak loudly about their non belief in disdain for God. Sure, there are extremists either way. Either they're out on a street corner with a sign and a bible in their hand preaching about their belief or they're out there on a street corner with a sign in their hand defiantly preaching their non belief; either way, I find both distasteful.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
    • tony

      The churches have the battle of the billboards won the thousand times over. Of course they get tax exempt income to fund it.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • snowboarder

      mccurve wrote "Believing in God never hurt anyone"

      is that some kind of a joke. the religious work constantly to deny the rights of others.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Never hurt anyone? History is full of examples of mass murder in the name of god. Doesn't mean belief hasn't helped people also, but to say no one was hurt is blind.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • janemutiny

      It not only hurts society, it hurts the individuals that it keeps from being grounded in reality.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      How about all the heretics burned and otherwise slaughtered by the "defenders of the faith" in Europe in the middle ages? How about all the victims of the Inquisition who did not worship the accepted version of the christian god?

      September 9, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
    • tallulah13

      And let's not forget all the christians killed by other christians because of theological differences. Face it, MrCurve. Believing in god has actually caused a lot of harm.

      September 9, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
  10. Rufus T. Firefly

    This story is one of many that strike me as consisting of pretty bizarre and convoluted logic.

    The things that she could not control in her life – arguably the things that were not in her control, but under control of an all-powerful god – went horribly and painfully wrong.

    To her credit, the way she handled things – the part of the story that she had conscious human control over – were more successful.

    Therefore, Jesus was taking care of her? This logic has always been lost on me. The more God has allowed someone to be mistreated, the more they thank him for their ability to withstand it.

    To me, the more inspiring message here would be: Life can be really hard, but be strong and take care of each other and you can make it through.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Anon

      That's why nearly all Christians are fu*ked up in the head.

      September 9, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Yeah, but Rufus, it just isn't as profitable as saying "god helped me and since you've paid to listen to me speak, god will help you, too."

      September 9, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
  11. tony

    Just think how awfully worse her life would have been if she had had to rely on church charity instead of non-religious government funded programs like the army, the food stamps, the affordable housing, etc., helping her through the bad so she could get herself together and eventually find a second richer husband.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Rufus T. Firefly

      ...and how much worse it would be if she had relied on prayer rather than science-based medical care for her child. It's frustrating to hear people- when their loved has been saved or improved by generations of scientific research and technology along with the knowldege and efforts of an expert medical staff – who say "thank you, Jesus!" and walk away none the wiser.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
  12. Reality

    Dear Kurt,->>>>

    Just in case you missed this p. 5:

    Based on the following, you might want to reconsider:

    Putting the kibosh/”google” on religion :

    • There was probably no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • There was probably no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    Added details available upon written request.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Reality


      In response to your reqest for added details:

      origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482 NY Times review and important enough to reiterate.

      New Torah For Modern Minds

      “Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.

      Such startling propositions - the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years - have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity - until now.

      The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine doc-ument.

      The notion that the Bible is not literally true "is more or less settled and understood among most Conservative rabbis," observed David Wolpe, a rabbi at Sinai Temple in Los Angeles and a contributor to "Etz Hayim." But some congregants, he said, "may not like the stark airing of it." Last Passover, in a sermon to 2,200 congregants at his synagogue, Rabbi Wolpe frankly said that "virtually every modern archaeologist" agrees "that the way the Bible describes the Exodus is not the way that it happened, if it happened at all." The rabbi offered what he called a "LITANY OF DISILLUSION”' about the narrative, including contradictions, improbabilities, chronological lapses and the absence of corroborating evidence. In fact, he said, archaeologists digging in the Sinai have "found no trace of the tribes of Israel - not one shard of pottery."


      Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • letsgomets2012!

      Easter is derived from the Pagan/Wiccan holiday called Ostera. ALL of the Christian holidays - and many of the traditions (which are secular symbols) are also.

      The Christmas tree is derived from the Pagan/Wiccan Yule Log.

      All Saints Day on November 1 is probably a sort of spinoff from Samhein - the most sacred holiday on the Pagan/Wiccan Wheel Of The Year, which is October 31.

      I am still laughing...touchdowns in an arena football playing field? heck, even I can do that....you have to leave the field to change your mind, that's how small the playing field IS.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • TC

      Gottta love the atheists that make up their own version of history.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
  13. yannaes

    For those of whom do not believe in God. You are not the first, nor will you be the last. If you think the Bible is out of touch, well, this will not be a shock to any of you, 5000 years ago people were basically saying the same things as you are saying that there is no God. So you are really not that contemporary in your thoughts. Get modern, will ya.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
    • Colin

      Actually, atheism in the way it is currently understood, really only goes back to the time of David Hume.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • Jesus Christ

      Yanny, now you are showing signs of megalomania by declaring that you were around 5000 years ago! How incredible that your mind works that way. Possibly signs of psychosis...to believe that you KNOW how people thought and what they said 5000 years ago. Amazing.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • yannaes

      Hume, was only voicing what was passed on to him.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Anon

      Christianity didn't even exist 5,000 years ago. The invented concept of your specified god as in Yahweh/Jesus/Jehovah came way later.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • yannaes

      I apologize my thoughts were a little skewed, there..It was only 3k years ago,,sorry, my mistake. Modern Atheism...nothing modern about it. Just ask the Ancient Greeks and Read Socrates, and Plato's Republic. and you will see the scoffing and non-belief. No problem there, thanks for the correction, however. But the Bible, which you do not believe anyway, but that would be a moot point.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • Anon

      Evidence for a Historical Jesus? = ZERO

      September 9, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Colin

      Yannes, not so. He and Baron d'Holbach were trailblazers in the (then) altogether novel idea of subjecting religion to the same skeptical rigor tha was belieg applied to all other disciplines such as medecine, astronomy mathematics etc. Upon application of skepticism and freethought to the issue, they pretty much concluded that there was no god. They are today considered intellectual gaints in the Enlightenment.

      Have you ever noticed that three of the biggest movements in human intellectual development, the Enlightenment, the Reformation and the Renaissance, are all defined by their movement AWAY from religion and supersti.tion. Why do you think that is?

      September 9, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • therealpeace2all


      " So you are really not that contemporary in your thoughts. Get modern, will ya. "

      Well, I would argue that as a general rule, us atheists/agnostics are very contemporary and quite modern, given our levels of education and realization in the fields of physics, quantum physics, archaeology, anthropology, cosmology, astronomy, evolutionary biology, and the neuro-sciences, etc...

      So... me thinks we are 'quite' modern and contemporary, as opposed to... the 2,000-3,000 year old bible whose ideas have 'not' changed nor would be considered 'contemporary' nor 'modern'... at all.


      September 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • yannaes

      Yes, Christianity comes after Christ. It was given the term in Bera, Greece. Christ was a Jew, not a Christian.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • OTOH

      "nothing modern about it. Just ask the Ancient Greeks and Read Socrates, and Plato's Republic. and you will see the scoffing and non-belief."

      Tell that to your cohorts who keep haranguing about this being the "end of days" because there are scoffers and mockers.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • For the liar Anon

      Anon –

      Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Anon

      ^ For crazy above me.

      September 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
    • fraff

      @Jesus Christ

      "Possibly signs of psychosis...to believe that you KNOW how people thought and what they said 5000 years ago. Amazing."

      Ridiculous argument. By this logic, we wouldn't be able to believe ANYTHING about anthropology, evolution, or any other studied discipline that focuses on events more than 5000 years ago. Your bias is showing.

      September 9, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  14. Anon

    Remember that SpongeBob SquarePants episode called Club SpongeBob?
    Yeah, that's how I feel when listening to the religious.
    All hail the magic conch shell!

    September 9, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
  15. Anon

    How about donating to stem-cell research that are actually trying to cure certain disabilities.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:11 pm |
  16. snowboarder

    it is nice to see positive things related to religion for a change.

    September 9, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • exlonghorn

      "positive things"??

      Well, if you mean a corporate-sponsored event where motivational speakers talk their minions into buying their insurance, books, DVD's, music, and other products after paying around $100 per person to attend a single-day event, then I guess that's positive for the ones cashing the checks.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
  17. normal45


    September 9, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
  18. CS

    Atheists, the majority of you will almost always be smarter, funnier and wiser than the people surrounding you, Including family and friends.

    With that comes a big responsibility.

    Educate your children. They will be the next generation of centered and balanced atheists.

    Speak the truth at all times.

    Do not to bully and and be condescending. This only makes us look bad and puts you on the same level as them. Take the high road.

    Be patient. It will happen if we do things the right way.

    September 9, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • therealpeace2all


      I have appreciated your intention recently by your call to action.

      Although, I think, being one of the first to point out the little 'nuggets' of funny within the -fakeheavensents posts, I miss those.

      I would love to see a few more of those too 😀

      Anyway, thanks for the reminders to stay on track.



      September 9, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • HeavenSent


      You atheists are trying to trick the Christians on these articles to turn away from Jesus' truth. You have snakes in your bellies. My camel-toe has it's own real estate listing. God shared his Truth with us in His letter to us the Bible. Read and learn.


      September 9, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • therealpeace2all


      LOL ! 😀 Thanks brother... you gotta' keep throwing those in now and again... you are just too damn funny !


      September 9, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • I am your GOD

      I don't see any snakes in my belly. Why such crazy talk?

      September 9, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • reader

      Happy to read this here. I was raised in a family of the brainwashed... "be Christian or be alienated as evil". There will be none of that when I raise my own family.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:00 pm |
    • CarolynVII

      With your first line I thought your post was meant to be funny but then I realized you are serious. Don't you think that thought process is a bit condescending, especially when you consider your 5th line? I remain disappointed that so many are closed to possibilities and the what ifs of life. The information highway has no horizon and we are all going to be surprised with its simplicity.

      September 9, 2012 at 1:01 pm |
    • CS


      No I don't, but you are ent.i.t.led to your opinion.

      September 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
    • truth be told

      If you loved your children and only taught them the Truth, they couldn't be atheists.

      September 9, 2012 at 7:06 pm |
  19. Amanda

    To all the God-less wonders out there. Nobody asked/forced/required you to click on this feature. You did it on your own. Of your own free will which (btw) is God-given. If you don't believe in any way, shape or form that God exists or in people like the Warners, then stop clicking on these sites. I don't go clicking on any atheistic sites (If you have any sites). I suggest you stay away from stories that praise God and God-loving people because your contribution is minimal at best.

    September 9, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • Jesus Christ

      Amanda, thank you for speaking up for me since I don't talk to anyone at all. I appreciate your blind faith and I'm sure that your life is filled with grace and happiness, in fact, I'm sure you have absolutely no problems at all with your absolute belief in me! Thank you for giving me the credit for all the things that mankind have done for you and your family!!

      September 9, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • Damocles


      I come for the stories, I stay for the warm fuzzies that posts such as yours send up and down my spine.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      Amanda: Freedom of speech bothers you??? This is a belief blog, not a christian blog...if you don't like it and have chosen to remain ignorant, please feel free to take your own advice and go to a christard site where they share your level of gullibility. You have no way to prove your god exists and we come here hoping to educate you (something your parents failed to do).

      It has been said that we are both atheists, I just choose to believe in one fewer god than you do, when you understand why you do not believe in other gods, you'll understand why I do not believe in yours.

      If you have such a problem with Atheists, turn off your computer, stop driving your car, disconnect your hydro-without Atheists you have none of it!!! Time to reside in the 21st century little one or locate a cave and go back fully to the century you seem to think still exists-the 1st!

      September 9, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • God the Father

      Ignore my son Amanda, I am going to kill you.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • Mary

      With such a closed mind to logic and cause and effect, it is no wonder our children are so ignorant and poorly educated. If your beliefs are so powerful then whey can't you handle any criticism? Clearly evolution makes sense and genesis and creationism are fictional stories. It is people like you that have held back rational belief and progress for thousands of years. BTW God made me click on this site. Why don't you ask him why I did it since you obviously talk to him all the time?

      September 9, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
    • exlonghorn


      CNN did not see fit to create a "non-belief blog". I'm sure we would be there if they did.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
  20. James PDX

    These are two very nice people. I just wish they could find a way to spread their positive message without the inclusion of myths and fables.

    September 9, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • 1836eig

      Unfortuantly the only myth seems to be your view.

      September 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • tallulah13

      So 1836, you're saying that the Warners aren't nice people?

      September 9, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
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