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September 12th, 2012
12:06 PM ET
Ambassador's killing shines light on Muslim sensitivities around Prophet MohammedBy Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors (CNN) – Violence over depictions of the Prophet Mohammed may mystify many non-Muslims, but it speaks to a central tenet of Islam: that the Prophet was a man, not God, and that portraying him threatens to lead to worshiping a human instead of Allah. “It's all rooted in the notion of idol worship,” says Akbar Ahmed, who chairs the Islamic Studies department at American University. “In Islam, the notion of God versus any depiction of God or any sacred figure is very strong." “The Prophet himself was aware that if people saw his face portrayed by people, they would soon start worshiping him,” Ahmed says. “So he himself spoke against such images, saying ‘I’m just a man.’” The prohibition against such portrayals was on stark display Tuesday, as mobs in Egypt and Libya attacked U.S. compounds in response to a film that vilifies the Prophet Mohammed, who founded Islam in the 7th century. The attack on the U.S. personnel in Benghazi, Libya, was orchestrated by extremists who used the protests as a diversion, U.S. sources told CNN Wednesday. The attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi killed J. Christopher Stevens, Washington's ambassador to Libya, as well as three other Americans at the compound. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter The film that’s believed to have inspired the violence depicts the Prophet Mohammed as a child molester, womanizer and ruthless killer, going a big step beyond violating the basic Muslim prohibition against depicting the Prophet, even in a favorable light. There are questions about who is behind the movie. Initial reports identified a supposedly Israeli-American real-estate developer named Sam Bacile, but it's unclear if that person even exists. A member of the film's production staff told CNN that the producer's name was listed as Abenob Nakoula Basseley. In Sunni mosques, the largest branch of the faith, there are no images of people of any kind. The spaces are often decorated with verses from the Quran. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories Mohamed Magid, an imam who leads the Islamic Society of North America, says the Muslim prohibition on depicting prophets extends to Jesus and Moses, who Islam treats as prophets. “Pictures and images are prohibited from being worshiped,” Magid says. There have been historical instances of Muslims depicting the Prophet, says Omid Safi, a religious studies professor at the University of North Carolina who has studied the issue. "We have had visual depictions of the Prophet in the form of miniatures and pictures in the Iranian context, the Turkish context, the central Asian Context,” says Safi, author of the book "Memories of Mohammed." “The one significant context where depictions of the Prophet have not been image-related has been in the Arab context.” “As you go farther east, away from the Arabian Peninsula, you find depictions of the prophet in art,” said Johari Abdul-Malik, the imam for Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Virginia. He noted that images of the teachings of the prophet were sometimes used to bridge gaps in illiteracy. But even depictions of the Prophet by Muslim artists has been a sensitive issue. Akbar, a former Pakistani ambassador to the United Kingdom, says that Muslim artists in the 15th and 16th centuries would depict the Prophet but took pains to avoid drawing his face. “It would be as if he was wearing a veil on his face, so the really orthodox could not object – that was the solution they found," Akbar says. In a Muslim film called “The Messenger,” which circulated throughout the Muslim world in the 1970s and 1980s, the Prophet is depicted only as a shadow. Adbul-Malik said that in the Quran, there is “no statement from the prophet requesting his image not be recorded.” The passages relating to a ban on creating images of the prophets come from the hadith, recordings of the sayings of the Prophet Mohammed and his closest companions. The hadith is not viewed on the same plane as the Quran but as important to understanding the Quran. Scholars of religion say Muslim opposition to portraying Mohammed wasn’t generally violated in earlier centuries because of a gulf between much of the Muslim world and the West. In the age of globalization, non-Muslims and critics of Islam have felt free to depict Mohammed, including in offensive ways. In 2006, a Danish cartoonist’s depiction of the Prophet wearing a bomb as a turban with a lit fuse provoked demonstrations across the world. Akbar says that until relatively recently, depictions of Jesus tended to be reverential, but Christianity has had a decades-long head start in dealing with negative portrayals of Jesus in film and art. soundoff (4,725 Responses)1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 Next » |
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Yes every one sure have a right to own their view but should it hurt the feelings of others?
Which religion ever told to be indifferent to the sentiments of ?
Never the Islam.... which has a basic meaning of peace and love.....And to respect the others religion (SURA KAFERUN)
We are to be tolerant if we are real followers. Blood shed only bring the same. If we Muslim believe in Allah then we should also believe that all the human and surroundings are created by Him and a part of his world and we should not kill or destroy any part of it... as WE have NO RIGHTS for doing so.
Plain and Simple!
It is time to grow up and act like adults. if your feelings are hurt because you cannot accept the truth, or defend your beliefs with logic, too bad for you.
Hurt feelings are more important than lives?
"""Hurt feelings are more important than lives?"""
They are more outraged by the threat of idolatry than they are outraged by the killing of innocents.
get f-ing real there is not an ounce of love and peace in Islam, there is nothing but crazy men, no woman is safe in the Middle East. Islam needs to just end, it is just pure evil. No woman is safe around a man that follows that pervert MO.
Your sensitivity is your own problem. I cannot know what you believe in, what make you tick, what have you experienced etc.
I may choose or choose not to be sensitive on a case by case basis, but I'll not be forced to pass my life worrying if I have insulted someone or not.
I do not care how insulted you feel, you have a right to insult me back or shut up. You have no right to kill anyone. If these towelheads are using collective punishment, so should we.
Tom, I can agree with this.
I like you!
As a muslim myself and an proud american as well i will say this- what they are doing is an INSULT to the prophet Muhammad in it of itself- by acting like baboons and causing disorder and chaos they break this saying of the prophet that "if you kill even one person its as if you killed all of humanity and if you saved a person, its as if you save all of humanity." we muslims are proud and love our prophet but this is just absolutely disgraceful to all the other Muslims all over the world. NO WHERE in the Qur'an does it EVER sanction this stupidity and disregard for life. instead of storming US embassies they should be civil and write up letters, arrange meetings, hold conferences telling that what has happeend wasnt right. Islam says that you have to be in EVERY matter have grace, even if others act bad towards you you need to act the better person. these so called muslims are nothing but a cancer to every other muslim who actually follow the Qur'an and try to be a good person of society. I am not trying to proselytize or anything but I am saying i as a American Muslim am getting SICK of these apes. Islam's essence is this- Love for all hatred for none.
Good to hear this .. question – why can't "reasonable" Muslims in the countries where this is happening establish law and order? There's GOT to be sympathy if not complete agreement with what the "baboons" are doing. In the meantime, the entire faith takes a hit in popular opinion. None of this bodes well for American Muslims of course.
So what are your thoughts on the prophet consummating the marriage when she was nine as was recorded in hadith?
The only reason I can think of is that to them, sitting down to discuss differences isn't as satisfying as murdering.
Fazia Susan. So, in essence, you are still saying that it is still an insult if your propeht is insulted, or made fun of? How childish. Acting just like "baboons." Jesus never existed, and your prophet was an illiterate psychopathic pedophile.
Depictions of the 'prophet' in movie or picture is considered blasphemy, a capital crime under Islamic Sharia law. Therefore pious Muslims who support sharia support this kind of behavior. Those who don't support the sharia are in fact infidels as well.
If they all do the reasonable thing as you said, they are buddhists, not muslims. I don't see hords of muslims standing on the street screaming for reasons and dialogues instead of calls for murder. There is something fundamentally wrong with a religion that allow violence to protect its integrity and image.
As a Chistian I do respect your opinion, it seems sincere and sounds like an intelligent response to this sad situation. I also see the same sort of thing happening with Christianity. So called christians have for many years persecuted others in the name of Christ, but Christ never commanded anything like that and stood for love always.
I do however question why in Muslim dominated countries more true followers of the Koran dont find the time to make these few apes cease and desist! Very odd indeed that Amercan Muslims are so how can I say this..Neutral? But if you are as sincere as you claim perhaps you should involve others and take these apes down...its tough to take down the majority though..
LOOK AT THE RELIGION, NOT ITS FOLLOWERS!!!
I know alot of converts, and they are thankful that the got to see islam before the muslims, which shows that not everyone is perfect.
Islam is nothing but crap, and murder, no woman is safe in Islam, the profit is a pervert, it needs to be outlawed period.
Hey Susan,
do u know that muham_mad was a pedophile? He married a child bride Aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9.
DO u really think a prophet of god would be a pedophile??? All islamic women should know about Aisha, and im sure u do.. But u ignore this and say islam is good, and muham_mad was also good? That makes no sense.
Quran sure 4:34 -> a man should not be asked why he beat his wife.
Do u know that muham_mad in the quran condones wife beating?? Why do u respect muham_mad so much when he says in the quran itself to beat women. Have u been brainwashed from childhood to believe islam is true? It sure seems like it. Muham_mad also said in the quran that women are inferior to men in intelligence.
Which so much negativity to women in the quran, its not secret why women in islamic countries r treated like property.
Susan, You say the prophet had a saying, "if you kill even one person its as if you killed all of humanity and if you saved a person, its as if you save all of humanity." That is not true. That is a Jewish saying from the story of Cain and Abel that Mohammad used in the Qur'an against the Jews, to show why they were unworthy. He didn't actually believer or practice the things he was quoting from other religions to use against them. If he did then he would never have chopped the heads off every post pubescent male in one Jewish tribe that he victimized. He exterminated all the males in a tribe merely because he suspected a few of them of revealing his criminal plans to raid yet a different tribe. Mohammad was a hypocrite who only used politeness as a means to stab his victims in the back after lulling them into a false security.
From your mouth to God's ear!
i dont understand my brother ,Is all the right to free speech is made to Mock other people s religious figures ? Have you heard that french magazine just today printed cartoons of Muslim religious figure even knowing that protests were already being done, is it act of peace loving people or voilent minded Monsters ? is it Free speech or is it USING FREE SPEECH AS EXCUSE TO CREATE CHAOS , to tease a community AND create VOILENCE . if you , my western brothers and sisters , if you have stamina to hear bad words about holy figures then use that right of free speech on your religious or political figures Not ours , Please ! Please ! , already your governments have destroyed our countries by excuses of terrorism while all know that alqaida / taliban etc. was created by USA government to Dismantle soviet union and USA government openly named all these people as freedom fighters when they fought Russia but later Bush administration named them terrorists and murdered innocent civilians in millions . I am helpless , but i just pray to Almighty God to Help Us , otherwise it is evident that these evil / unethical super powers would impose world war 3 would happen sooner or later , God Forbid . what hurts more is when normal people of USA and West support these voilent acts of their governments , whether Wars or Blasphemy / ridicule of religious figures , it hurts badly .. OK keep it up but remember their is God and He will Come for us soon God Willing
Muslim 'Sensitivities'? Leave it to CNN to make excuses for a murderous culture that kills every day, on the hour.
it is really sad to see such ignorance from a person who has the knowledge to at least read the news. This is not a culture that kills people daily. There are people unfortunately who misunderstand the Islamic religion and use it to their advantage. I sincerely hope you will study and get to know enough muslims to change your mind. It is a beautiful religion that is widely misunderstood. I really do hope you get the chance to see that.
“…if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.”
Quran 5:32
...a man should not be asked why he beat his wife – Quran 4:34
See, i can pick and choose verses too! A supposed 'prophet' says in his holy book that wife beating is ok, wow!
Unfortunately, Gihan, The spectrum of your religion also includes murderous zealots in large numbers.Because of this, the Muslim religion is a zero sum (or worse) prospect for the advancement of humanity. Unless the gentle side can reign in the violent crazies, it does not matter how "beautiful" and "peaceful" you say the ideas are. It is a cancer, like Christianity...
I am Muslim and proud of being so. I am totally against violence and killing as these are not the ways we were asked to follow to win any case. We were asked to argue any case softly and by leading good examples.
meanwhile I am 100% against any one who insults our prophet, I wonder how ignorant those people are. Have they ever tried to read about him. Do they accept insulting their prophets whom we as Muslims are ordered to respect, honor, and believe in them.
Have they looked at the ages where Prohet Mohammad PBUH followers spread justice and peace across the world.
Irrationality and fanatism is the source of all evil, whether it is the act of Muslim, Jew or Christian. We can not condemn all Muslims for the act of some fanatics as we can not condemn all Christians for the deeds of fanatic Christians.
We can, however, always condemn religious.
Mr. Hussein: "Prohet Mohammad PBUH followers spread justice and peace across the world". When exactly was that? A thousand years ago? Is that what you tell the victims of your disgusting religion every time Islam kills another innocent?
Your religion is what holds your people back. It is as clear as day. Only when Muslims emigrate to the West do they learn the ways of decent, civilized and educated people. And they murder them as well.
*religion
If I want to draw a stick figure and call it Mohammed I will do it, and I don't give a damn if it insults anyone. I don't consider Mohammad a profit anymore than I consider the Easter Bunny a prophet. so deal with it.
That little "meanwhile" of yours is why Muslims will never progress. As long as you think there is any room for a "meanwhile" when talking about using a film as a rationalization for murder, you are stuck in the middle ages.
So sorry MH, but you prophet was a psychopathic pedophile. An illeterate thug who had delusions of grandeur.
Mohamed Hussien, I am a Christian , a catholic, and I stand with you friend on your rationale words. Thank you.
However Islam is evil to its rotten core and has been on the war path for 1400 years...spare us your lies about Islam being peaceful!
Take your pride back to the middle east, there is nothing decent in Islam, no woman is safe in Islam.
you are laughable, no muslim has ever gone around the world trying to promote peace, what world do you live in? Really, why don't you try to promote peace in the middle east, it is just full of wonderful, peaceful people, NOT. Off with you now and your bold lies.
@Mohamed Hussien
Why do muslims keep lying about their religiion? Look, Quran 4:34 says: ...a man should not be asked why he beat his wife.
Now, would a prophet really condone wife beating. When ur daughter is married to a muslim man, and she comes to u 1 day with bruises on her face, i'm sure u'll say its ok cause of quran 4:34 right?
How about if u have a 6 yr old daugther and if muham_mad wanted to marry her and consummate the marriage too, would u give ur daughter to him? You do know the story of Aisha right? If not look on wikipedia.
No amount of lies will convince educated people that muham_mad as not a prophet, but a pedophile and womanizer among other things.
For all of those that quote The Quraan 4:34. Here is the full quote "Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance – [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand."
i dont understand , Is all the right to free speech is left to Mock other people s religious figures ? Have you heard that french magazine just today printed cartoons of Muslim religious figure even knowing that protests were already being done, is it act of peace loving people or voilent minded Monsters ? is it Free speech or is it USING FREE SPEECH AS EXCUSE TO CREATE CHAOS , to tease a community AND create VOILENCE . if you , my western brothers and sisters , if you have stamina to hear bad words about holy figures then use that right of free speech on your religious or political figures Not ours , Please ! Please ! , already your governments have destroyed our countries by excuses of terrorism while all know that alqaida / taliban etc. was created by USA government to Dismantle soviet union and USA government openly named all these people as freedom fighters when they fought Russia but later Bush administration named them terrorists and murdered innocent civilians in millions . I am helpless , but i just pray to Almighty God to Help Us , otherwise it is evident that these evil / unethical super powers would impose world war 3 would happen sooner or later , God Forbid . what hurts more is when normal people of USA and West support these voilent acts of their governments , whether Wars or Blasphemy / ridicule of religious figures , it hurts badly .. OK keep it up but remember their is God and He will Come for us soon God Willing
But by the way, is it people that fight for God?.. or the other way round.
God is impotent. He needs others to fight for him. That's pretty common among imaginary beings, though.
Well we know Mohammed wasn't impotent, because he was screwing young boys...
Just plain and simple this wouldn't have happened if President Mubarak and Colonel Gaddafi was still ruling these Goats!
You telling me the IDIOTs in power didn't see this coming. There funding another 1000 x 9/11s
F*** muhammad that demon
You're a bigot. Look that up in the dictionary.
I don't think he needs to look it up. That's the way he was raised.
your comment is a bit simplistic but really says it all. No one is a bigot that thinks islam is insane it is, you hit the nail. Muslim's save your bigot comments, go home and deal with each other only, Islam has nothing to offer to our universe..
dang, you say bigot like it's a bad thing.....
i dont understand , Is all the right to free speech is left to Mock other people s religious figures ? Have you heard that french magazine just today printed cartoons of Muslim religious figure even knowing that protests were already being done, is it act of peace loving people or voilent minded Monsters ? is it Free speech or is it USING FREE SPEECH AS EXCUSE TO CREATE CHAOS , to tease a community AND create VOILENCE . if you , my western brothers and sisters , if you have stamina to hear bad words about holy figures then use that right of free speech on your religious or political figures Not ours , Please ! Please ! , already your governments have destroyed our countries by excuses of terrorism while all know that alqaida / taliban etc. was created by USA government to Dismantle soviet union and USA government openly named all these people as freedom fighters when they fought Russia but later Bush administration named them terrorists and murdered innocent civilians in millions . I am helpless , but i just pray to Almighty God to Help Us , otherwise it is evident that these evil / unethical super powers would impose world war 3 sooner or later , God Forbid . what hurts more is when normal people of USA and West support these voilent acts of their governments , whether Wars or Blasphemy / ridicule of religious figures , it hurts badly .. OK keep it up but remember their is God and He will Come for us soon God Willing
I invite all people that still hold on to a religious belief to google then watch....
The Munk debate: Resolved, is religion a force for good in the world?
Between; Tony Blair and Christopher Hitchens
I find that christians seem to relate to faith in a very narrow view, ie. our religion is passable except for a few whacko culs-so religion is OK, please take the wider view. If you are willing to see beyond your own fantasy, you may understand why atheist reject all deities, we believe in just one less god than you do.
Peace, but it will never be achieved as long as people hold on to their ancient beliefs.
Hmm... am not sure Mao, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler had a peaceful view of the world, as atheists would claim their "belief" would bring.
Am not a prof. of mathematics, but I would guess all killing made by theists compound throughout history would not make it against anyone of those enlighted atheists mentioned above.
So please stop this so 1900-ish old fashioned claim about religion being source of hate – a half decade of atheist ideologies in power and humanity almost vanished. Am not saying atheist are murderers, but do not argument about theists being fanatics because the argument would turn multiplied against you.
Now, can't we just get along and live in peace – and debate with grace?!
@Some
Ok, let me list three, Napolean, Alexander the Great, and Ghengish Khan, were out to conquer the world, if they could, just as your three dictators. So if a religious person/ leader or an atheist leader is power mad and wants to establish his ultimate power the religion or lack there of should not matter. The number of people slaughtered in either case scenario matters for what reason, of course your modern guys had more effective methods/weapons for killimg.
Adolph Hitler was NOT an atheist.
We have had bad people.But my concerns as an atheist is science.
We have had bad people.But my concerns as an atheist is science.I personally don't like extreme atheism though.
John, I am not a fan of Islam especially, Christianity beyond "do unto others" is pretty ugly, but they have not gone around killing people because they got butt hurt, hurt feelings etc., Christians don't kill their children for being Western, or dating someone. I can take seriously a man that wondered around the desert on his much older wife's money, and then taking a wife that was 6 years old. That is called pedophilia. After that the guy is just gross.
Poverty, constant Western military interference and longstanding occupation of Jerusalem should not be excluded from this analysis. This article is a bit superficial about the real causes of anger. After all, Islam has been around for 14 centuries, most of which, there were harmony with the West.
Harmony with the West? What fairy-tale history books have you been reading? Islam has been spreading through conquest since its founding.
Oh the occupation of Jerusalem.
The funny thing is Muslims have no problem with right by conquest when they are the ones doing the conquering.
Nonsense. Islam has essentially been at war with the West, the Indian subcontinent, Central Asia and sub-Sarahan Afirca, since Mohmamed invented the religion. I agree that the article misses the point though. This isn't about the Islamic reluctance to protray the face of Mohammed. This is really about the Islamic injuction to stifle discussion of Mohammed's faults, and crimes, through the use of violence.
Khanyo, you are spouting camel shyte. Your religion is not anywhere near being peaceful.
Look around my brainwashed cowboy friends. There's no Muslim under your bed. You're being screwed by your government who's owned by a handful of corporations. I mourn the death of the ambassador, but you need to cool down the militancy, the hatred, and the foreign interference of your government in partnership with Israhell.
"""Islam has been around for 14 centuries, most of which, there were harmony with the West."""
Whoa, whoa WHOA! This is not true. Not true AT ALL. Liar liar pants on fire.
What do you think the Crusades were all about? Hint: They were reactions to centuries of Muslim aggression and occupation. Did you know that Muslims had actually conquered portions of Europe (Italy, Spain, and France) before they were finally beaten back?
Ever heard of Christopher Columbus? Do you know WHY he was searching for a new route to the Far East when he found North America by accident? Hint: He was trying to avoid the – you guessed it – MUSLIMS!!!
Ever heard of Thomas Jefferson? He knew a thing or two about Muslim aggression, too. Read about the Barbary Wars.
Obama has been inflaming Muslims by constantly boasting about killing Osama Bin Laden. It was mentioned TWENTY ONE times at the Democrat convention. The demonstrators in Egypt were shouting "We are all Osamas, Obama"!
Muslim interest in Jerusalem is only as a conquering force. They are interested in only diminishing the enemy religions, the same way a conquering force would destroy temples and churches, attempting to increase the religion's reach and numbers by attrition of the competing religion. They wanted Palestine because there were Jews there. The other religions motives are no more honorable, so let's lay all the cards on the table...
I always thought the towel on the head was to protect them from the desert sun. Now I realise it's the only thing keeping their retarded brains from falling out.
Pity you couldn't hold on to your brains.
Time to clean house in Libya. Leave no loose ends. The rebels have been allowed freedom to roam around there armed to the hilt. That is always a mistake. If Libya can't clean out that infestation then send in the special forces from the west to do it.
More wars and invasions? Yeah, 'cause that always works.
Kery ironically we helped these rebels to do what they did. We took Gaddafi And Mubarak out of Power! They been controlling these animals for years and no qualms.
WHo cares if they are sensative, no excuse to riot and kill.
If they were "sensitive" they wouldn't kill!
I'm Muslim and we all agree that there is no excuse and those Muslims who killed American people have to be killed also
STOP THE PRESSES:–>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
TO MY SISTER AND BROTHER MUSLIMS: THERE IS A PEACEFUL AND EASY SOLUTION AND IT TAKES LESS THAN TWO MINUTES OF YOUR TIME.
From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi––
The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
(Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..)
( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)
Are you ready?
Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.
The First Five of the 77 Branches:
"1. Belief in Allah"
aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.
"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."
Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".
"3. To believe in the existence of angels."
A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.
"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.
Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.
Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.
"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!
Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.
Teach this to american basterds who attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq for their sake killed several hundred people wht their drones doing in pakistan why they are not stopping do u hve any answer u basterd americans....
Don't harbor terrorists, idiot.
Desensitizing the "Prophet"/"Fortune Teller" Mohammed:
Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.
This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.
And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.
Current crises:
The Sunni-Shiite blood feud (e.g. Iraq and also Syria) and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.
Mohamed like ATM
We wont have peace over there till we have a significant body count.
I estimate the tipping point might be around 60 to 80 million dead.
We aren't even close to slowing this down from a military perspective.
Maybe Netenyahu can up the antey?
All I hope is that if this has to be WW3, and that if we are forced to get in it, we do so with the intention of winning an absolute victory.
Hmm...glass parking lots?
Amniculi
I often wonder if this is not divide and conquer
Shia vs Sunni. Whip the flames of tribal war and have our enemies slaughter each other.
Kind of like the republicans versus the democrats, but with suicide bombers and artillery shells.
I have actually lost count of how many of these societies have significant ongoing civil unrest and violence.
Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, and Detroit to just name a few 🙂
If we can keep the madness localized it is almost to good to be true for the western powers!
Alas, these things have a way of getting out of control.
Is this ambassador todays Arch Duke Ferdinand?
Only time will tell.
Add to that another 300 millon... We will not let u sleep in peace...every one of our dead will be revenged.
To stop them, you have to kill them. The trouble with that is that there won't be enough virgins for them in paradise. Start breeding more camels, and that would be a grand substi.tiute. The prohet was a sick man, kinda like Jos. Smith was.
"The prohet was a sick man, kinda like Jos. Smith was."
-And a large number of popes.
Well actually, I thought it would be nice to use Roman Catholic Priests as the virgins for the muslim suicide bombers.
They deserve each other.
Sorry not buying it.
Islam has hundreds of pages "depicting" Mohammad. But they do so in a positive way. So no problem at all.
It is criticism of Islam and Mohammad that brings on the pain.
If you dare criticize Islam of the Mohammad you risk fire, or stones, or bullets be hurled your way. Or maybe someone else, as Libya demonstrated when the religious get angry they aren't real good at confining their anger to the subject of their anger.
Unless that anger was just at freedom of speech, which some of the graffiti seems to suggest.
FVCK the prophet, or any other religious figure or ideology that people invoke as an excuse for violence.
Any religion that demands respect through violence does not deserve respect.
Is there a religion that doesn't? Buddhism, maybe
rastafari, perhaps
Which I why I generally don't respect religion.
Both are arguably more ideologies than actual religions
Buddhism as most religions has split into many factions. They do espouse non-violence, but tend to go to war with and slaughter their Hindu neighbours from time to time (again not most Buddhist groups, just some of the crazies).
@John – agreed, there are definitely plenty of violent Buddhists. That doesn't necessarily mean that Buddhism contains violents tenets. But with a religion that functions more like a philosophy, divergent ideologies is expected. There is definitely a stark contrast with the reveal religions such as the Abrahamic religions whose texts are flooded with violence. I certainly can't think of a non-violent religion that utilizes a standard, revealed text.
I never heard of a Buddkist terrorist. They some times set fire to themselves, but don't harm others