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September 12th, 2012
12:06 PM ET
Ambassador's killing shines light on Muslim sensitivities around Prophet MohammedBy Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors (CNN) – Violence over depictions of the Prophet Mohammed may mystify many non-Muslims, but it speaks to a central tenet of Islam: that the Prophet was a man, not God, and that portraying him threatens to lead to worshiping a human instead of Allah. “It's all rooted in the notion of idol worship,” says Akbar Ahmed, who chairs the Islamic Studies department at American University. “In Islam, the notion of God versus any depiction of God or any sacred figure is very strong." “The Prophet himself was aware that if people saw his face portrayed by people, they would soon start worshiping him,” Ahmed says. “So he himself spoke against such images, saying ‘I’m just a man.’” The prohibition against such portrayals was on stark display Tuesday, as mobs in Egypt and Libya attacked U.S. compounds in response to a film that vilifies the Prophet Mohammed, who founded Islam in the 7th century. The attack on the U.S. personnel in Benghazi, Libya, was orchestrated by extremists who used the protests as a diversion, U.S. sources told CNN Wednesday. The attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi killed J. Christopher Stevens, Washington's ambassador to Libya, as well as three other Americans at the compound. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter The film that’s believed to have inspired the violence depicts the Prophet Mohammed as a child molester, womanizer and ruthless killer, going a big step beyond violating the basic Muslim prohibition against depicting the Prophet, even in a favorable light. There are questions about who is behind the movie. Initial reports identified a supposedly Israeli-American real-estate developer named Sam Bacile, but it's unclear if that person even exists. A member of the film's production staff told CNN that the producer's name was listed as Abenob Nakoula Basseley. In Sunni mosques, the largest branch of the faith, there are no images of people of any kind. The spaces are often decorated with verses from the Quran. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories Mohamed Magid, an imam who leads the Islamic Society of North America, says the Muslim prohibition on depicting prophets extends to Jesus and Moses, who Islam treats as prophets. “Pictures and images are prohibited from being worshiped,” Magid says. There have been historical instances of Muslims depicting the Prophet, says Omid Safi, a religious studies professor at the University of North Carolina who has studied the issue. "We have had visual depictions of the Prophet in the form of miniatures and pictures in the Iranian context, the Turkish context, the central Asian Context,” says Safi, author of the book "Memories of Mohammed." “The one significant context where depictions of the Prophet have not been image-related has been in the Arab context.” “As you go farther east, away from the Arabian Peninsula, you find depictions of the prophet in art,” said Johari Abdul-Malik, the imam for Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Virginia. He noted that images of the teachings of the prophet were sometimes used to bridge gaps in illiteracy. But even depictions of the Prophet by Muslim artists has been a sensitive issue. Akbar, a former Pakistani ambassador to the United Kingdom, says that Muslim artists in the 15th and 16th centuries would depict the Prophet but took pains to avoid drawing his face. “It would be as if he was wearing a veil on his face, so the really orthodox could not object – that was the solution they found," Akbar says. In a Muslim film called “The Messenger,” which circulated throughout the Muslim world in the 1970s and 1980s, the Prophet is depicted only as a shadow. Adbul-Malik said that in the Quran, there is “no statement from the prophet requesting his image not be recorded.” The passages relating to a ban on creating images of the prophets come from the hadith, recordings of the sayings of the Prophet Mohammed and his closest companions. The hadith is not viewed on the same plane as the Quran but as important to understanding the Quran. Scholars of religion say Muslim opposition to portraying Mohammed wasn’t generally violated in earlier centuries because of a gulf between much of the Muslim world and the West. In the age of globalization, non-Muslims and critics of Islam have felt free to depict Mohammed, including in offensive ways. In 2006, a Danish cartoonist’s depiction of the Prophet wearing a bomb as a turban with a lit fuse provoked demonstrations across the world. Akbar says that until relatively recently, depictions of Jesus tended to be reverential, but Christianity has had a decades-long head start in dealing with negative portrayals of Jesus in film and art. soundoff (4,725 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 Next » |
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Sensitivities? F*** them and their murderous, pedo muhammad
Keep talking like that, and you wonder why 1.2 billion people see America in a bad light. Like we've done nothing to these people for the last 100 years. We've killed millions for oil but don't think twice about it. When we are just a mad when an innocent person there is killed as we are when its one of ours, then we will take steps towards peace.
"""you wonder why 1.2 billion people see America in a bad light. Like we've done nothing to these people for the last 100 years."""
There are always two sides. You're correct there. But you don't seem to know the other side of this issue.
Muslims have ALWAYS seen the west in a bad light.
This is a classic conflict that has raged on since the very inception of Islam. Muslims have always been at odds with the west. Thomas Jefferson fought two wars with them. Columbus discovered America because he was trying to avoid Muslims. Muslims had conquered Italy, France, and Spain before they were finally turned away.
Our support of Israel has only aggravated a situation which has festered for CENTURIES.
Yes, there are always too sides. And occasionally, one of those sides is completely right and the other side is completely wrong. Islam is always wrong. It's just a religion of darkness, murder and error.
here we go again with that old excuse from the crusades that we kill them all etc etc, Dude we killed them because they invaded Europe dude!!! They only lived 800 years in Spain until they got kicked out!!! we are in the 21st century and you just don't go around killing people because your religion tells you!!! It is sort of stone age you know!!! these are barbarians and love to live the life of solitude nomadic barbarism...so let them have it. I say this...bring our troops home and let that part of the planet rot, no more money going over there and no more corn or grain period!!!
You could put a caption of the exact verse in the Koran in every scene of that movie that proves it is FACT. It simply dramatizes the Koran just like a movie about Jesus being dramatized. I guess the Muslims don't like to see Mohammed in action! Fact is, the movie shows exactly who Mohammed was and the verse's in the Koran are coming right out of his mouth in the movie!
F*** you. You guys are sick and dont want to live in peace killing millions in all over the world. Dont remeber Vietnam, panama, Iraq2003, Afganistan- Killing millions there. Sick B*****
Since you are all so convinced, you should have nothing to be afraid of. If it is so important than laziness is not an excuse. I challenge you to read the Quran from beginning to end. Thats it. Here is a link. www dot quran dot com. No annotations from anybody. Just read it for what it is. Thats it. Thats the challenge.
@Always2Sides – The OP is right. Mohammed did take a little girl as his bride and is technically a pedo.
@always2sides – Let the truth be told, middle east has NEVER seen peace in the last thousands of years. Muslims were always fighting with a group, either the Jews people, or the Christians. They cannot live in peace. Period.
But why do they worship a god that cannot defend himself and his chosen prophet? When they then face adversity, I assume this same god is expected to come to their aid. Anyone who carries such acts in the name of defending a god or prophet is mistaken because any true god should be able to defend himself and his.
i've never seen a god protect him/herself. by your logic, there are no gods. and i agree.
'But why do they worship a god that cannot defend himself and his chosen prophet?'
Because their god never existed and their 'prophet' lied, but muslims will never admit this as obviously it will destroy their faith.
Muham_mad lied many times and in retrospect it is easy to see its a lie. For example he said in the quran that he rode a winged horse into the heavens to see allah. After the advancement of science and space exploration, there are several problems with his story:
1. Wings r only needed where there is air (atmosphere), why did he need wings in space? The obvious answer is that he made up this story but muslims wont admit it.
2. Space is a vacuum so his lungs would explode due to the change in pressure. How did he magically avoid this? Again, the obvious answer is that he made up this story but muslims wont admit it.
3. And of course how did he continue breathing in space on his way to meet the imaginary allah. Obvious answer: He lied.
Of course the religious will explain away illogical stories with 'magic' or 'it was god and he can do anything' cop out answers, but those answers actually do not answer anything.
This shows the worst of humanity. First an idiotic Israeli, American creates a racist, right wing video and then then all these stupid Muslim people use the release of this video as an excuse to commit violence. Both groups are a disgrace to humanity.
Freedom of speech jerkwad.
You could put a caption of the exact verse in the Koran in every scene of that movie that proves it is FACT. It simply dramatizes the Koran just like a movie about Jesus being dramatized. I guess the Muslims don't like to see Mohammed in action! Fact is, the movie shows exactly who Mohammed was and the verse's in the Koran are coming right out of his mouth in the movie!
People say racist, hateful, bigoted things every day in the U.S. but we don't go around killing each other because of it. We recognized that everyone has a right to his or her views and we leave it at that. Islam has a culture of hate and control. It's concerning that more muslims are arriving at our shores and bringing their hateful ideology with them.
@Frank No you could not, because such proof does not exist, because it is a lie. The onus of proof is on the accuser and this should be very easy to prove. Go pick up a Quran. Read it from beginning to end. Show me the evidence you claim. You won't be able to, because it doesn't exist, because these accusations are lies and you are a liar.
@Challenger- It doesn't matter if Frank is right or wrong. What matters is a large population (possibly majority) of Muslims are ignorant and violent. The majority of the "laws" they hold so dear are not even in the Quran. They were rules from the Hadith and over time they convinced the world that they were the originl rules from their Prophet. THis is a lie. They were sayings people claimed were from Mohammed with no proof. So when people claim that things like the Burka are part of their core faith. This is a lie. Just a means of control.
But it's ok...they're a religion of peace....
Why're they the ones alwayz fighting for their God,is he not supposed to be fighting for them.Islam has proven to have a very volatile violence tendency,quite apalling.
Because their god is Satan. Same personality. Allah = Satan.
This is absolute and total BS. All you need to do is go on to Google and type in "pictorial depictions of muhammad" The first two links show paintings by Islamic artists who have painted pictures of Muhammad.
Here are some of the links on the first page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depictions_of_Muhammad
http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_full/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/1.htm
http://www.godweb.org/mohammedpaintings.htm
Any hateful screams and violent acts by muslims about the West or any non-muslim portraying Muhammad is just hypocrisy and an excuse to commit murder and mayhem. So much for a "peaceful" religion.
though one Cristian or Jew condemns Muhammed PBUH ,
I can not condemn Jesus or moses as they are recognized in our Quran as I am a true believer.
I hope that there would be peace and not bloods every where
Mohammed was neither a prophet nor a peace maker. He was the greatest fraudster and idiot in history. He misled many people. Islam is a cancer and Jesus is the answer for that. Mohammed is bound to hell. He is indeed stupid, to etch such dogmatic views in minds of many. Islam is a terrorist religion. For the world to get peace, Islam should be wiped off............
As a former Muslim -currently Agnostic- I can't say that the way that Libyan people are on in this incident is good but when you think twice most of the people who were in this incident probably lost their beloved relatives in last few months and the only remaining thing for them is their beliefs you can understand them.
No, I can't understand what the did, nor do I have sympathy for them. Nothing justifies killing an innocent person who had nothing to do with the alleged "offense" against these people. Further, civilized people don't kill because of words...that's the conduct of people who are not deserving of the respect or benefits of the modern world.
Susan, where are your sympathies when we bomb via drone every day killing 20-30 people that may or may not had anything to do with war. America needs to take responsibility for the blood on her hands and understand we are all people and we all hurt. Our blood is not more precious than another human being.
@always2sides – If America is using drones, they are targeting areas where they are needed. I've never heard a drone attack in any peace loving countries..
How sick to justify murder. Pathetic.
If your freedom of speech has no limits, may you accept our freedom of action.
Muslim fanaticists should all be killed, buried with a pig, and then have dogs p!ss upon their graves.
Well, Omar, speech is limited. But in your case, and I-slam islam, your prophet and religion are cuckoo. ANY religion that espouses violence, in any form, deserves zero respect. Period.
And you can accept ours in the form of a thermobaric AGM-114 delivered by one of our fine drones to your home. Tonight. Sleep well, terrorist.
See Omar, that's where you and your ilk don't get it and clearly never will. We have freedom of speech in this country and the majority of Americans will support the idea of hearing something disagreeable in oder that they may similarly express their opinions. But Moslems? Oh no! Say something (anything, it seems) that you people find offensive or an insult to the prohet and you reach for the sword, gun or explosive vest. Yeah, that's a real tolerant religion you got there, pal. You people are so thin-skinned about your religion it's pathetic. Grow a pair, will ya?
Islam=Death
What do you primitives not get about the distinction between words and actions? What took place in Libya is not free speech, it's violence against an innocent person who did nothing to these people, except support them in overthrowing Gaddafi and trying to help them build a new Libya. Your quote, and the conduct of this mob, show that Muslims can't be trusted and have no place in the modern world.
You idiot terrorist. Moslems if you had the power, as you always dream you would have dominated the world. Your idealogy is destructive. Islam should be destroyed. It is a chronic illness. Your God is so weak. Allah is not God. The true God is in the BIble. Jesus is the only true God.
You don't even have freedom of action, you are told what to do, where to protest, etc. No original thought process at all.
LOl. Freedom of action? Stick to hurting little girls for attending school and unarmed diplomats. We see what happens to Muslim men on the battlefield.
Islam is a disease and the only cure is to bomb their a$$ off.
A good example of the level of intelligence the world has to deal with. A culture that cannot differentiate between words and bullets.
As you will accept the consequences of your sick actions.
I disagree with the way freedom of speech was used by the Israeli-American, and very much with the so-called freedom of cation by Muslims. The problem now is America seems soft. We try so hard to maintain good economic relations that we let a few American deaths slide here and there. Enough of this already. We're acting like crappy parents letting our kids get away with everything, only verbally scolding them on occasion. It's time to bring out the real discipline and gain back our respect.
An in return may you accept our act of retaliation.
religion makes people do crazy things.
Despite all this bad publicity islam is the growing religion in the western world if you guys look at the statistic all over the North America and Europe. rather than speaking like this you should study which may change your view as it has changed many peoples even after the 9/11.
After watching four decades of relentless bloodshed directly related to Moslem fanatics, I've come to these comclusions.
1.) Islam and its followers are evil and believe only in violence.
2.) This is NOT a bona-fide religion.
3.) Any "religion" or belief-set that finds so many things in the everyday world "An offront to Islam" is a house of cards. I mean come on! Is there anything that ISN'T an insult to these people?
4.) I'm tired of being open-minded and accommodating to these people. Get out of the US, get out of Europe. Go back to your stone age countries and kill yourselves (Sunni vs Shiite) if you want, but please leave the rest of the world alone.
same can be applied to christianity.
Agreed, Booty.
When was the last time you saw Christians kill non-christains because some one insulted Jesus? Wake up Morons!
Have you any comments on the 900 foreign US bases across Muslim countries ? Would you have found it unwanted had Russians built their military empire across EU and US?
@william
lots of times, idiot. do your homework before you post:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
@William, first off, your bible commands you to, so maybe you should start.
I seem to recall that a country that exspoused xtian values and whose ruler spoke of the strong role of his xtian faith played in shaping his views and policies exterminating a few million non-xtians not all that long ago. You can also look to places such as India where the NLTF, one of the most active terrorist organizations in the world operates to convert people to xtianity.
Remember Norway? 51 dead there in the name of xtian values. That was just about a year ago.
The Lord's Resistance Army operates in Uganda and is accused of horrific crimes (this mass murders, rape, etc). Their M.O. is to read bible passages before their attacks?
Want more? Maybe you should drop the holier-than-thou attitude and join the rest of us in the real world.
I'm sorry, "denman838". Your assertions about religion are unfounded.
But when US administration uses those same Muslim fanatics for attacks against Serbs in Bosnia, Kosovo that`s fine. Or when attacking Russians in Chechnya etc. No, this is not a religious incident...
I'm sorry, "William". The enti'ty "Bootyfunk"'s assertion is correct. You are an idiot.
YEAH!!!!! my thoughts exactly
@bootfunk
Sure, you can cherry-pick a handful of examples of Christian extremism if you want. The difference is that while violent extremism is quite common in the muslim world the same MOST DEFINITELY can not be said about mainstream Christianity. It's very easy to prove that there is no match in terms of scale.
If you can't see that, you're biased beyond reason. In fact, methinks you're probably just another message-board atheist troll out to prove that you're smarter than the primitive religious folk. Realize that in doing that, you make yourself seem small.
I am really sick of you F***ers that you dont do your home work. You forgot the balkan war when the croat were slaughterd by tne the serbs as well. in last few years the how many terrorist attack was made by non islamic terrorist. also go back and look at the History when the jews terrorist was bombing all over before the state of israel. Some of them later got Nobel peace price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you sick baS*** biased. Those who dont have anything to do with the muslim world. Stop buying Oil from all the muslim country and dig yopur oun ass for oil. Suckers
The only peaceful Muslim is one who is in his grave. It's time to drop all this PC BS and start dropping B-61's. When we are done, then, and only then, will Islam be a religion of peace.
That's nothing new, The west has been bombing Muslims and killing populations via its dictators for decades now. All in the name of big oil. Injustice caused by greed, lead to hate, and now this. When will we learn.
"""The west has been bombing Muslims and killing populations via its dictators for decades now"""
Said the Unintentional Apologist.
The history of this conflict goes back to the inception of Islam. Muslims must share the blame.
AMEN!!!!!!1
you will love and wish to be bombed with B-61 for ever ! but you will get worse than that for the rest of your existence !
they are killing each others in syria, if my memory serves me right, many many people like you demonized china and russia, now what say you?
the cure for RELIGION is EDUCATION, as i was taught in school KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
Agree! but added morals and values study... and how to live in harmony amongst the differences
Why not just call it exactly what it is? Barbaric behavior under a religious cloak! Amazing what the USA will take up the behind for their weakness called political correctness!
RAUCH. Understatment. +1
It is barbaric, but when will we hold Terry Jones and his flock accountable for the hate they spew under "freedom of speech" without wanting to take accountability for what they say.
@always2sides, are you mad that your prophet was portrayed by an actor or that the movie was factual?
you have got to be kidding....the worst excuse i have ever read....in fact, its mostly counterintuitive as that to ridicule a deity, in my humble opinion, is a worse crime that ridiculing a human......stop making excuses for radical, irrational, fanaticism
but by the way, is it us that fights for our Gods or the other way round. I am asking, and I need an answer.
Since there are no gods crazy people invent them and then fight for their made up gods.
Muhammad was a murderer, rapist and pedophile. These are facts.
Muslims need to face them.
You need to get an education and spare the world your ignorance and disrespect.
Six year old bride. Is that true?
@always2sides
why is he ignorant. Muham_mad married aisha when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when she was 9. How is this false or ignorant. Throwing out unsupported statements that someones statement is ignorant or false is what religious people like to reply with when they dont have any sensible reply.
Todo mundo queria saber quem é o anti-cristo, agora todo mundo sabe quem é o anti-cristo, ele se chama Mohammed, uma criatura carismática a mando do diabo que iria destruir tudo de bom na terra e levar ao juizo final. ( portuguese)
Você está apenas defendendo mais cristão absurdo bíblico. Eu pensei que você tinha algo de valor para escrever sobre em Português, como em Royce Gracie e Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, ou algo parecido, de que eu tenho um monte de treinamento e um monte de interesse.
Paz ...
stop the lies!stop the violence!all of you!it is 2012 people!we have to use our brains today!stop the lies and please stop the violence!
"Stop the lies!" – All religion is a lie
"Stop the violence!" – Stop killing people, you religious imbeciles
"It's 2012!" – Stop following Bronze Age ideologies
"Use our brains...!" – Science is progress
What a load! "Muslim sensitivities" – is that a new justification for mass murder?
Since when have they ever needed justification?
Yep, has been for the last 1400 years, islam has only produced : hate, death, destruction and stupidity. There is not one muslim, educated in a muslim country, that got a Nobel prize for science/medicine. They are living off other civilisation, has done and always will.
@scoot –
Let's at least be honest here, islamic science and medicine was vastly superior to the west for quite some time – the Nobel prize doesn't go back 1400 years. However, somewhere along the line all progress stopped. Islam, as a religion and especially as it relates to accepting violence is about where xtianity was maybe a few hundred years ago.
@scoot,
They also reproduced millions of cocroaches and pigs.
Did anyone see the cartoon of Mohammed sucking horse c*ck while Jesus buttfvcks his loose turd hole?
Hilarious! Well-drawn too.