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September 19th, 2012
01:07 PM ET
Osteen on negative political campaigns(CNN)–Joel Osteen stopped by to talk on Tuesday night with Piers Morgan about negative campaigns and attack ads. You can see the clip above. You can also see the Belief Blog interview with Osteen, the pastor of the biggest church in the US here:
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Future IS Now!
http://youtu.be/Mq6FsOCdadI
This one is now working too.
Peace...
Very nearly the worst expenditure of bandwidth I've experienced.
Now it can be told!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IrXIPibnbY
Ask joel about gay marriage and the true right winger comes out of him. Dont let that smiling face fool you.
I read last week where Obama said that if we can stop South America from clear cutting and put an end to Rhino and Elephant poaching in Africa, that somehow that is going to help Americans. Help Americans?? I can go to the zoo if I what see some stinking farting polution making steaks on the hoof. We are better off with them!
Are you really that selfish?They kill the rhino because they think their horns Are medicine,although there is no proof.Also,We need biodiversity.Being captive in a zoo being the last of your kind is not ideal for us.
Damn farting animals!!
Prayer changes things
Stop spamming falsehoods.
Hi Prayerbot.
therealpeace2all, the new one should work. I removed the old one. (clear your cache?)
Truth is never spam.
What truth?
Atheism is useless and prayer changes things, two amazing indisputable Truths.
You don't have proof.The only thing it does is in your mind.Not in real life.And atheism is not useless.
President George H W Bush said an atheist is not a patriot and should not be a citizen of America, we are one nation under God. And the President was right, atheism is totally useless. Atheism is to society what dog crap is to the bottom of a sneaker. Of the millions of lives transformed by Christ, all have entered the Kingdom of God through prayer.
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!` `
We are patriotic.Do you have to believe in Christ to be a patriot?No.You are just filled with hate.
If you identify with atheism you are not a patriot by Presidential decree. Sorry you are dog sh it useless to America, your families and yourselves.
If you identify with atheism you are not a patriot by Presidential decree. Sorry you are dog sh it useless to America, your families and yourselves.
@tbt,
ye calumnious, scurvy dog, when did Bush say 'atheists should not be citizens'?
Atheists do indeed 'stick to society'. We are of it and it is of us.
No hate just fact . Why do you losers always try to make Truth = hate ?
No hate just fact . Why do you losers always try to make Truth = hate ?
What truth?You opinion is what you are saying.
You tube has a recorded interview with President Bush stating the facts.
@tbt
You have been challenged before to demonstrate that your claims are true, and have yet to rise to that challenge.
And where did tolerance go?
BUSH WAS AN OLD MAN AND A FOOL!
I just believe whatever old white guys say.
Easily verifiable proofs have been offered on this thread. You can continue to be wrong if you want to be.
truth be told,
"If you identify with atheism you are not a patriot by Presidential decree."
Some comment made to some reporter on the campaign trail is NOT a "Presidential decree".
What proof?
@tbt
"Easily verifiable proofs have been offered on this thread."
Oh gee another assertion without any links, or sources to back it up. Who could have possibly seen that coming.
Confronted with proof an atheist simply steals an alias and tries to undermine common sense.
@tbt
At least you can say that you're a consistent troll.
What proof?Your hate filled comments?
It's about time for tbt to move to the next thread where is prayer cut and paste is.
Yeah.The perisistance continues under facts.
hawaiiguest,
Yeah, tbt is over there giving Prayer Parrot a cra-cker right now.
I'm pretty sure it's just the same person. As is just sayin, pervert alert, and captain america. I've never seen those tags used until the prayer bot comes out to play.
Facing hardline ones like these are painful.
Oh I'm in serious doubt on whether the person is an actual Christian.
Calling Truth hate just doesn't work. The 99 % of normal people in the world know atheists as liars and murderers. Sorry no one accepts that lame old "hate" dodge anymore.
Where do you keep that never ending bag of lies?is it yourself?
@tbt
zzzZZZzzz
Oh are you done yet? Let me know when you actually say something relevant or new.
Hey 'truth be told' : an opinion you agree with is still just an opinion, not truth. I know that's hard for you to handle. Ask for a little xtra Xanax in your applesauce with dinner tonight and everything will be ok.
@tbt,
ye villianous and calumnious cur. Avast there with thy blatent falsehoods.
There is nothing on YouTube with video of G.H.W.Bush.
There are comments attached to a video that related to the following (otherwise unsubstantiated) exchange:
Roger I. Sherman (reporter): "Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and patriotism of Americans who are atheists?"
G.H.W.Bush: "No, I don't know that atheists should be regarded as citizens, nor should they be regarded as patriotic. This is one nation under God.… I support the separation of church and state. I'm just not very high on atheists."
This occured at a Presidential campaign press conference at O'Hare Airport, Chicago (August 27, 1987) just after Bush announced his candidacy and BEFORE Bush was President.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush
So:
1. Unsubstantiated and attributed by a single reporter (not electronically recorded).
2. Not from a President. (From a Vice-President campaigning for the Presidency)
3. No Presidential decree there. Just an election cycle 'gaffe'.
I think Buch probably said it, but ...
@tbt ye doth exaggerate too much.
@truth be told: “If you identify with atheism you are not a patriot by Presidential decree. Sorry you are dog sh it useless to America, your families and yourselves.”
Considering how badly Bush screwed up the WMD in Iraqi question, how he screwed up the economy, how he got us into 2 screwed up wars and managed to screw up the American budget surplus left over by Clinton into the biggest deficit America has ever had. His opinions on patriotism are just as screwed up . And considering your need to make disgusting analogies, your opinions are even more screwed up than his were.
@TR6,
actually the quote refers to George Bush Sr. (Mr. Thousand points of light, new world order, etc.)
I find it so odd that so many on the right criticize Obama as being aligned with the "UN" and anti-American when we have this to remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g
Join the HeavenSent Army TODAY and let's kick some atheist butt!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liN09c7rPgg&feature=youtu.be
Don't start the Atheist hate.I would not like that here.
When I click on it I get a "content unavailable"
Is it working on your end ?
Peace...
MDAT, you WILL join this army.
Not me.I am not one of yours.
therealpeace2all, the new one should work. I removed the old one (clear your cache?)
Dammit MDAT we will not have an goddam deserters in this HS army. What seems to by your major malfunction private MDAT??
I'm not a part of that.I'm actually against the sentiment.
@CS
Still... no luck. Keep getting the same message.
Peace...
@CS
What do we do with people that don't want to be a part of God's army ? Leave them for Satan ? Crucify them ? What do you think ?
Peace...
Welcome HeavenSent Thrill Seekers! Wow, what a great job you are doing. Thank YOU for making this HeavenSent event a huge success! Our HeavenSent engineers are working around the clock to make your HeavenSent experience the best ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R6YlVMexqc&feature=plcp
Stay Carnal!
@HeavenSent Blog
Hooya ! Stay Carnal ! 😀
Peace...
This is epic.
therealpeace2all and sam, pick some music for it. I will make it longer...
Iron Man...
Don't Fear the Reaper?
Suggestions?
Marilyn Manson's 'Beautiful People'.
that's good....
@HeavenSent Blog
"Running with the Devil" - Van Halen
Peace...
Oooo. I love it when we get close to halloween. Some people will try to carve their pumpkins with a Jesus face – and they always wind up looking like Charles Manson. lol.
I used Beautiful People this time. I can do another one with running with the devil next time...lol
It will be up in a few, I moved it to a different channel
WE STILL NEED TO SEE THOSE TAXES, MR. RUMNEY PIRATE THUG!
Wealthy Republicans pay 90% of the taxes in this country. You 47%-ers are the slugs that feed off of hard-working Americans.
Obama said just the other day that if it were up to him, most Americans would be free to pursue their hobbies without fear of having to pay the government.
We should start calling Romney 'Money Boo Boo'.
Progress: You have no idea what I make, you fvckin troll.
Progress
Old style conservatives like myself are opposed to income tax.
@therealpeace2all
If you are around let me know I have something for ya.
@CS
I'm here... Whatcha' got for me ?
Peace...
Cool stand by a sec.
@therealpeace2all
Here you go:
http://thingking.org/heavensent/index.htm
lol
@CS
Oh... that's just too dam-n funny ! 😀
You should put up all the funny HS quotes, or actually, your 'funny' one-liners. Also... you should have a 'real' button where people can actually sign up !
Peace...
I am working on it!
@CS
R U... -Progress Is Certain ?
Peace...
Noooooooo don't call out the Poe-ing, we're having fun. LOL
Romney recently stated that if elected, he would make absolutely sure that we don't try to "save" the planet. He wants to save families, not birds.
The Dems on the other hand seem to think that protecting the enviroment will have long-term advantages. That is crazy talk.
It will.It will give us a better world for the future and will help man.
How will saving the environment help man? The environment is for animals. They don't pay my bills or get me to work.
Avast there PIC, ye scurvy dog. Yer mutinous talk'll get ye nothing more than a long walk from a short plank with a cutlass point for encouragement.
Arrghh, Romney'll drink the dregs o' the cup of defeate to the bitter end.
Salty argot care of 9/19 "Talk like a pirate day".
And ye be an animal too PIC, you lubberly cur or do ye forget?
Want a polluted world with lung cancer and polluted rivers?Want to deny global warming some more?The generations ahead will suffer because of the short sightedness of what you just said.
@GOPer
You are tiresome.
@MDAT
There is no proof of global warming. I am not going to change way of life because some left wing environmentalists will say and do anything to keep their jobs. Fossil fuels power this world, period.
This year was the hottest on record.http://www.skepticalscience.com/evidence-for-global-warming.htm .You have no proof telling me global warming is false.
PIC, you should totally go find as many animals as you can and turn them into immediate fuel instead of waiting for fossils.
@MDAT
Look, you have no proof that warming is unusual or caused by man. I believe it is a natural phenomena and I am not going to change my life for it.
PIC, it's all those cows and sheep farting, isn't. That's causing the problem.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas which absorbs and emits heat.Make more CO2 and it will absorb and emit more heat.http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-natural-cycle.htm
sam, I believe you are right about that. Should I then change my lifestyle for farting livestock? I think not. Did I drop everything when HeavenSent's camel-toe started gobbling up children??
Progress still can't shake my proof.
I actually burst out laughing, that time. Way to go, dude!
@PIC,
I'm tiresome eh, you scurvy dog? Then my piratical day's work here is successful.
Bible says there is no one without sin. God would not look at whether a person has sinned less or more. No matter how big or small a sin, it is sin. Everyone of us have our own sins that we need to address and ask God for His forgiveness. Let us not try to judge anybody else as we are not worthy to judge any in the first place. God is the Judge and He will take care of it.
Incorrect.
I am a prideful atheist who hates god. I hate his stupid a.s.s. so much I wish he would come down here so I coud scratch his stupid eyes out. I hate him but he doesn't not exist but I stil hate him.That bloddy b.a.s.t.a.r.d!
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 16:18 (KJV)
Now I feel like I need a shower.
Jesus said he would give you reporbate minds. Jesus that only through Him can you come to the Father. What part of satan lies and the Bible is the truth do you not understand?
"reporbate"??
"What part of satan lies and the Bible is the truth do you not understand?"
Now see, that's why they let you go from the Evangelical Fortune Cookie Co..
In defense of Osteen,
I'm not any type of heavy churchgoer. I haven't been to a church other than funerals for years. But I guess I would consider myself spiritual or open to "something" beyond current human being's understanding. Of the TV evangelists I've flipped through the channels at, Osteen is the most pleasant and positive I've ever seen and the only one I've actually watch whole shows.
His program is only 30 minutes and done in a light slightly humorous style. His message is always uplifting. "You can do it because God believes in you and loves you" etc. Never, ever a negative comment about any group, people, place, or viewpoint. He doesn't condemn anybody to hell or mete out judgments. It's just the overall message of "God loves you, wants the best for you and everybody. Stay positive." Basically, he's a motivational speaker and I personally see nothing wrong with that.
But most importantly, I've never seen an episode where he asked the viewers for money. They probably have other means such as his books and those who join his congregation for that. I can watch it and not be assaulted in that typical rude televangelist manner.
I know there are some Christians who don't like him or his message but hey, to each his own. As far as what I know about him and the pleasant inspiring message I occasionally get from him, I have no problem whatsoever.
@blind-eye
You really don't know that he s a thief?
Come on Joel. We know your name really isn't Hawkeye.
@UD,
As I said I started watching his show every now and then because it was a pleasant surprise to see a televangelist be nice to everyone. Then I watched more because I liked those little positive motivational messages. I don't read his books or know much of anything else about him.
If you have information about bad practices I wouldn't mind if you could direct me to where I might find them.
Jesus said, "Woe to those who listen not but speak much.....much will happen hence for those that love me and cherish me."
I say love and cherish, and the hell with you if you don't like it.
Oh, and Obama recently stated the same damn thing. Heathen. You don't hear Romney asking people to worship him!
Romney worships money. Rmoney.
GOP, what is wrong with money???
Would your rather re-elect a total narcissist that wants to worshipped and kowtowed to like God Himself??
Let's see those taxes, Rumney pirate!
Show us the taxes, Rumney pirate thug!
Aaar, ye scurvy cur! I be votin' for whoever has the rum!
joel osteen is a leech with a smile.
A leech sucking the great goodness of the Lord out of Him maybe. Amen.
Aye, Bootyfunk,
The lubberly cur Joel Osteen and his comely wench are right scurvy pirates, and no mistake. After a broadside or two of quotes from the black book of smiting they board their sheep in the smoke and strip 'em of their booty. I bet my doubloon to your piece o' eight their booty's hidden away in an off-shore isle in the Spanish ocean. P'rhaps the Cayman's, safe from the maruding navy lads. And, like any good scurvy pirate, not a single silver Real paid as tax to his majesty.
Arrghh, I'd like to find the map to his treasure.
Salty argot brought to you by Sep. 19, "Talk like a pirate day."
All of this just goes to show you how much American truly is a God-fearing nation. Founded on Christianity and certain to take our Christian values and Evangelical majority into the future. Liberals can fight for satan, but will fight in the army that protects God's blind side.
Values, conviction, leadership. no-nonsense. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Democrats.
ATHEISTS FOR SATAN!!! woohoo!
Being a Democrat does not make you a "fighter" for Satan. God isn't a Democrat or a Republican. On an idiot would even imply such a thing. And you certainly aren't a Christian if you believe such a thing.
Are you a poe or just a moron?
Still calling troll. Way too stereotypical.
God is most definately on the side of Christians and on the side of morality. Sorry, that rules out the Dems and your friends the Taliban.
It is time to repeal Roe V Wade, STOP teaching the lie evolution, STOP catering to the 47% of leeching loser "americans" and start help the job creators with lower corporae taxes.
What "Evangelical majority"?
You do realize that the term 'majority' requires something to be >50%.
Evangelical Protestants may be a loud and obnoxious voice in politics, but (thankfully) they represent a minority.
Im starting to definitely thinkg Progrees is Certain is a complete poe. Way to stereotypical religious right moron.
@Midwest rail,
Yep – Poe, not necessarily a deliberately ironic mimic, but altogether over the top.
Poe...??
Too late, P.I.C.
Certain: "Liberals can fight for satan, but will fight in the army that protects God's blind side."
I think I smell a disgruntled ex Evangelical Fortune Cookie Co. "writer".
Saying evolution was a lie showed your true colors.Stop being ignorant.
Aye, @tbtrolled the last thing a good crew wants aboard is a preachy chaplin. They're bad luck for the voyage.
Drink to the devil and be done with the scurvy preachers – I've a bumper of the good Antiguan rum smuggled out o' English Harbour for ye. A short walk and a long drop to Davy Jone's locker is all that's good for them.
Actually most of our great forefathers were Deists. They believed in a encompassing God but most were not what we would call Christians today. Just take a look at Jefferson's New Testament. He removed all miracles an only put in what he call the Philosophy of Jesus. He said that the miracles were probably made up by the writers an got in the way of the truth of Jesus' teachings.
Seriously, everyone, give Osteen a break. He does have some good features, I mean, a few strands of his hair could supply our oil needs for the next century.
@VTS
He is a very wonderful man who is learned in the scriptures. You would do well to listen and learn rather than spew your hatred for God.
he's a scammer stealing money from the sheep, like all evangelists.
Booty you have been on these articles for such a long time hearing the word of the Lord and just ignoring it. When will you start your walk with Jesus?
Well, OK, so there's a derrick on his nose. What's the big deal? Just keep your shoes away from the oil slick on the floor if you get close.
Amen.
Joel is a good man. You just need to look past his crimes and that oil slick he leaves behind. I think it's time for me to change my Ultra-Dries. My chair is wet again. It must be Jesus weeping.
Amen.
Take your meds people...
Is this Odonna Mathews?
It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. It keeps things simple for kids, and lets them be all that they can be. They just need to be taught that some things, like all religion, were just made up by salesmen and politicians from long ago. (Yes, charlatan folklore and spam started long before the Bible; what would make you think they hadn't?) And they need to be taught that other things, like God, we really don't know a damn thing about.
Atheists have strong minds and don't need a religion. Many religious folk have the best intentions. But too often, religious folk run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, they disserve society). And too often, religious folk are easily offended when someone mocks their make-believe characters – and, as we can see they can get really CRAZY!
Although there are many religious folk with good intentions – some selflessly helping others, religions and religious organizations are, as a whole, just big old clubs – each trying to out do each other and inspiring hate and division (often disguised as love) along the way. The problem is that people too easily buy into religion and don't realize how unfounded it all is. And when they buy into it, they buy into a lot of really old, really weird tenets that are nothing but harmful for the modern mind.
Take Christianity, for instance. Just look at all the things that Christians argue about amongst themselves today – abortion, men's and women's roles in the church, celibacy, contraception, acceptance of gays, etc. Most of these issues have their roots in the conflicted, unfounded tenets of early Christianity. Non-Mormons harp on Joseph Smith these days. But we really don't have any more proof at all to believe that Paul, the self-proclaimed "apostle" was anything more than an ordinary man who needed to make up religious "sales literature" to survive and spread his own personal beliefs. And yet a good chunk of the NT is attributed to Paul and accepted by many Christians. And a lot of what he wrote about has to do with many of the issues I mentioned above that have Christians fighting amongst themselves hundreds of years later. I don't buy any of it.
Get a good cup of tea, and sit down and collect your thoughts. If you find it helpful to pray to a god, fine, but it is really healthier for the mind to leave behind all the make-believe characters that people over the centuries have tried to define for which there is little foundation.
mama kindless
(to be added to my last paragraph)
Because with those invented characters and powers – that's where division and hate join the little party in your mind. That's where, in your mind, you are inheriting the division and hate from ordinary politicians, lobbyists and salesmen from long ago.
mama kindless
woohoo!
^bump^
Osteen another fake sheperd! Leading the sheeply down with him. You words sweet as honey but sting like a bee.
becareful with wolfs in sheeps clothing.. Osteen always trying to be political correct... Osteen ask yourself if its true the god you worship and follow and if indeed its Jesus. Would jesus speak the truth or be afraid always answer things being political correct? He did not do that than and surely think he would not now..
Osteen, read your bible and stop thinking your rightous..!!!!!!
Um you still suffer from the same mental illness that O Steeeen suffers from.
What?
JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.")
Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694.
Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.
Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Many contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.
Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!
So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher/magic man or Joel Osteen would do or say?
Jesus clearly suffered from a mental illness.
Only for the newbies:
Blah blah blah. Cut and Paste. Blah blah Blah. Cut and Paste. Blah blah blah. Cut and Paste. Blah blah blah.
Seriously dude, do you have an original thought in your head. Your as obnoxious as HS and the rest of the "repeat" offenders.
As a good student, you have read the reiterations of the "fems" (flaws, errors, muck and stench ) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Reality makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!