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Internet intensifies Jewish squabbles over Israel, identity
Religious Jews at Jerusalem’s Western Wall earlier this month.
September 25th, 2012
02:30 PM ET

Internet intensifies Jewish squabbles over Israel, identity

By Dave Schechter, CNN

(CNN) - Forgive those who have sinned against you. Seek forgiveness for your sins against others. Forgive yourself.

In a nutshell, that is Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement, which begins at sunset Tuesday.

There are many forms of sin, to be sure.

In their sermons some rabbis will no doubt voice concern about the way American Jews talk to each other about Israel, about politics and even what it means to be Jewish, lamenting an often divisive and sometimes caustic tone.

These rabbis may suggest that on Yom Kippur some among their congregants may wish to atone, at least symbolically, for the nasty language and name calling too frequently employed in discussions that turn to argument, whether in-person or online - notably in the comments sections after articles at Israel and on social media platforms such as Twitter.

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Twitter provides abundant examples of caustic exchanges. Without naming the offenders and focusing instead on the type of language used, there was the Jewish organizational leader who suggested that a politically liberal Jewish commentator might be a registered lobbyist on behalf of Nazis, while that same liberal Jewish commentator referred to an organization well-known for its attention to hate crimes and anti-Semitism as “flatulent frauds” and to a well-known Jewish academic as “dementia-struck.”

Old-fashioned, face-to-face discussion also has become problematic. “When it comes to talking about Israel and the Israeli-Palestinian situation, that heat can burn up even the most well meaning friendships, community relationships, family connections,” observed Rachel Eryn Kalish, an organizer of the San Francisco-area Year of Civil Discourse Initiative that was “designed to elevate the level of discourse in the Jewish community when discussing Israel.”

Rabbi David Wolpe of Sinai Temple in Los Angeles was asked by Rob Eshman, publisher and editor-in-chief of the Jewish Journal, why he would deliver a benediction at the Democratic National Convention earlier this month, given the polarized political climate. “I see this not as politics but as prayer,” Wolpe said. “It’s a chance to present Judaism on a national, if not international, stage. It’s a shame some see it otherwise.”

Eshman followed with a comment of his own: “Yes, a shame — but a predictable one. Hyper-partisanship has infected the Jewish community, as it has America. Too many of us have bought into the idea that our side has all the answers. But no party, like no person, is invested with perfect insight and far-seeing wisdom. Fixing Medicare? Boosting unemployment? Defanging Iran?

To quote Woody Allen, most of us don’t even know how a can opener works.”

The idea that argument is central to the Jewish experience is not new. Serious debate over the meaning of phrases within the holy books has existed almost since the beginning – and this is the year 5773 on the Jewish calendar. The old joke about “two Jews, three opinions” did not originate without some measure of truth behind it. But the most modern communications technology has brought a new intensity to disagreements.

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Ron Kampeas, the Washington bureau chief for the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, a news service utilized by Jewish newspapers, online services and other media, offered CNN this perspective: “American Jews are eager to attach their Judaism to their broader ways of thinking - political, social mores, even what and how they eat. America's is the first society in which Jews, like other minorities, were encouraged to take pride in their difference from others.”

“It took decades for American Jews to figure it out,” he said. “But when they saw what ethnic pride did for the American Irish, the American German, the American Italian, they embraced it with a vengeance. By the 1960s, cultural refractions of Judaism through literature, movie, pop culture, song became de rigeur. And then, with the ascension of political figures like Bella Abzug, Ed Koch and Jacob Javits this was true of politics. So real differences in outlooks - from what's funny to what role government should play in out life - become enshrouded in Jewish rationales.”

And as these differences in outlook extend into discussions of politics or Israel, there is strain. “Because Jewish identity is so fraught - even as it has evolved into an outright pride, Jews are still acutely aware of the humiliations that once attached to being Jewish - these arguments are more prone to become bitter exchanges over self-definition,” Kampeas said.

That theme of a community tearing itself apart also was evident in a piece written last year in The Jewish Daily Forward by David Hazony, author of “The Ten Commandments: How Our Most Ancient Moral Text Can Renew Modern Life.”

“With so many Jewish ‘umbrella’ groups, Jewish community centers, federations and so on, it’s easy to believe that, at least on the face of things, Jewish peoplehood in America is thriving,” Hazony wrote. “Yet, something does seem to be dying in the American Jewish fire. The infighting among Jewish groups, the polarization on Israel and the willingness to demonize whole communities of fellow Jews have become so extreme that one begins to wonder what, exactly, is left of the Jewish family.”

Hazony went on to say that “the problem may be at its worst when it comes to politics. Here, American Jews are ferociously divided, with each side accusing the other of fraternizing with a perceived enemy. For Jews on the left, conservatives have joined forces with that most fearsome part of America, conservative Christians, to undermine the liberal, secular space that Jews have worked so hard to carve out for themselves as the real solution to the Jewish problem. For Jews on the right, liberals have joined forces with pro-Palestinian activists, universalists and others who threaten the Jewish state that we worked so hard to create and protect as the real solution to the Jewish problem.”

By most estimates, only 20-35% of American Jews have visited Israel, although a survey of more than 1,000 American Jews by the American Jewish Committee found that 41% said they had visited Israel. “That a majority of American Jews have never been to Israel, and that those who have are, for the most part, infrequent visitors, is an old and sad story,” the American Jewish Committee’s media director, Kenneth Bandler, wrote in The Jerusalem Post.

This could be interpreted as meaning that a significant percentage of the American Jewish community is getting hot under the collar and on their keyboards about a place that exists firmly in their hearts, without ever having been there.

Last month, author Daniel Gordis referenced the response he received to adding his name to a petition on an issue related to Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Gordis, who has written that “Fairly or not, I’m seen as slightly right of center on Israel,” did not foresee the response to his signature. What “genuinely shocked me has been the level of vitriol, blatant intellectual dishonesty, and expectations of conformity,” he wrote.

“As the Jewish world prepares to commemorate Tisha B’Av, the date of the destruction of both Temples, the second of which the Talmud claims was destroyed because of baseless hatred among Jews, I find myself despondent about the way we Jews talk to one another and what it means for our future. If the ugliness that the rabbis said led to the destruction of the Temple is now the tone we take for granted, why shouldn’t young Jews just walk away?” Gordis said.

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“Comments sections are, of course, the province of those with too much time on their hands, and our culture of Web anonymity invites terrible excesses,” Gordis wrote, adding “Have we learned nothing at all about the dangers of language run amok from the horrors of Yitzhak Rabin’s assassination? Are we wholly unchastened by where we’ve been in the past as a people? Do we not believe that there should be limits on what we can and cannot say to one another?”

Scientific American recently published an article titled “Why Is Everyone on the Internet So Angry?”  in which Art Markman, a professor of psychology at the University of Texas characterized online comments as "extraordinarily aggressive, without resolving anything.”

"At the end of it you can't possibly feel like anybody heard you. Having a strong emotional experience that doesn't resolve itself in any healthy way can't be a good thing,” Markman wrote.

Among those who, depending on your viewpoint, inspire or provoke online is M.J. Rosenberg, who is active on Twitter, where, as in the writings on his website, he pulls no punches. Rosenberg’s resume ranges from working for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, widely regarded as among the most powerful advocacy organizations in Washington, to a stint as a foreign policy fellow at the Media Matters Action Network, a politically liberal organization.

Asked why American Jews have such difficulties with civil discourse over matters related to Israel, Rosenberg told CNN: “The answer is that both sides take this issue very seriously and, frankly, believe that the other is risking the survival and security of Israel and the Jewish people. I know I feel that way about the right and I know that people on the right feel that way about my side - the left. I think both sides feel that the other is jeopardizing a basic part of our selves, our Judaism and the Jewish state.

“And that produces anger and even fury,” he said. “Those on my side are particularly angry because the right tends to act as if it is speaking for all Jews. It isn't. We need to speak all the more forcefully to be heard. Additionally, they have resources we don’t have. We only have our voices.”

From what might be termed the other side of the political spectrum is this perspective from Noah Pollak, executive director of the Emergency Committee for Israel, who told CNN: “There's a reason for the old adage that one should never discuss politics or religion in polite company. These topics often lead to impoliteness, and it's no less true of Jews discussing Israel and religion as anyone else.

“I spend a lot of time in my job arguing about Israel, and the fact is (as verified by polling) that American Jews are pretty unified on a range of Israel questions – they are firmly on Israel's side in matters of war and diplomacy,” Pollak said. “However, there is a small minority of left-wing American Jews who dissent from this consensus, and they have an unfortunate tendency to invoke their Jewishness in the course of denouncing Israel, as if their religious affiliation lends some higher credibility or insight on the question of what to do about Hamas or Iran or the peace process.”

“Me, I'm fine with heated arguments,” he continued. “Jews have been arguing for thousands of years - we privilege and enjoy debate, and as far as my side is concerned, I'm pretty sure we have the winning case.”

But if everyone believes they have the winning case  ...

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Filed under: Holidays • Internet • Judaism

soundoff (495 Responses)
  1. mike johnson

    .... yawn ...

    September 16, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
  2. chaz

    I think this arguing and polarization is actualy not as bad as this article makes it out to be. As stated, argument is good, it presents to sides of a story and allows evolution of thought – not strict illogical adherence. If Muslims would argue and debate there differing opinions on there religions and policies instead of constantly resorting to senselss violence between not just themselves and other religions but between different factions of there religion, there would be a much more peaceful middle east and far east.

    September 16, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      Mr chaz can you please explained why king david killed goliath,what words did goliath say too make king david fight him???????

      September 16, 2012 at 6:18 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Mr Hammer: it never happened.

      September 16, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
  3. Atheism is Great for Kids and Grown-Ups Too!

    It's really best for all people including children to have an agnostic approach to god, and an atheistic approach to all religion. It keeps things simple for kids, and lets them be all that they can be. They just need to be taught that some things, like all religion, were just made up by salesmen and politicians from long ago. (Yes, charlatan folklore and spam started long before the Bible; what would make you think they hadn't?) And they need to be taught that other things, like God, we really don't know a damn thing about.

    Atheists have strong minds and don't need a religion. Many religious folk have the best intentions. But too often, religious folk run and hide their misdeeds within their religion (and by doing so, they disserve society). And too often, religious folk are easily offended when someone mocks their make-believe characters – and, as we can see they can get really CRAZY!

    Although there are many religious folk with good intentions – some selflessly helping others, religions and religious organizations are, as a whole, just big old clubs – each trying to out do each other and inspiring hate and division (often disguised as love) along the way. The problem is that people too easily buy into religion and don't realize how unfounded it all is. And when they buy into it, they buy into a lot of really old, really weird tenets that are nothing but harmful for the human species.

    Of course Islam is a crazy religion. But look at Christianity. Just look at all the things that Christians argue about amongst themselves today – abortion, men's and women's roles in the church, celibacy, contraception, acceptance of gays, etc. Most of these issues have their roots in the conflicted, unfounded tenets of early Christianity. Non-Mormons harp on Joseph Smith these days. But we really don't have any more proof at all to believe that Paul, the self-proclaimed "apostle" was anything more than an ordinary man who needed to make up religious "sales literature" to survive and spread his own personal beliefs. And yet a good chunk of the NT is attributed to Paul and accepted by many Christians. And a lot of what he wrote about has to do with many of the issues I mentioned above that have Christians fighting amongst themselves hundreds of years later. I don't buy any of it.

    Get a good cup of tea, and sit down and collect your thoughts. If you find it helpful to pray to a god (something you know nothing about), fine. But it is really healthier for the mind to leave behind all the characters that people over the centuries have invented or given powers to, for which there is little or no foundation. Because with those invented characters and powers – that's where division and hate join the little party in your mind. That's where, in your mind, you are inheriting the division and hate from ordinary politicians, lobbyists and salesmen from long ago.

    mama kindless

    September 16, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • nope

      @atheism...
      nope

      September 16, 2012 at 6:00 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      You know GOD is Real,because you have been afraid of something in your life?????? maybe been homeless,going without love,loseing a love one,loseing a job,loseing all your money,loseing your health

      September 16, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
    • Sheila

      Atheists will have condemned souls. The body can be replaced. The soul that dies in the 2nd death cannot be.

      September 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm |
    • save the world and slap some sense into a christard today!

      @200 TON HAMMER

      Yep. Nothing like fear to make all the crazies come out and play in your head. Go play with your imaginary friends, lil ham.

      September 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Rufus T. Firefly

      Sheila, how exactly do you know that to be true?

      September 16, 2012 at 6:36 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      Sheila: "Atheists will have condemned souls. The body can be replaced. The soul that dies in the 2nd death cannot be."

      Hmm. Seems like we have a whole support group of disgruntled ex Evangelical Fortune Cookie Co. "writers". lol
      (Sheila / nope / 200 TON HAMMER / Ronald Regonzo / truth be told / captain american / just sayin)

      September 16, 2012 at 6:39 pm |
  4. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    September 16, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. The degree to which your assertions may represent correct statements is 0.0. To help you understand the degree to which your assertions may represent correct statements, I will access my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE). Using my IEE module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent correct statements is: "TOTAL FAIL, DUDE".

      I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book might help you overcome this problem:

      I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
      by the Alzheimer's Disease Society

      September 16, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
  5. John

    I'm Jewish and I can't stand Obama. Very few Jews I know are planning to vote for him this go around. This feels very much like 1980 again.

    September 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm |
    • Ronald Regonzo

      70/30 Romney/ Ryan ! Proof expands

      September 16, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • truth be trolled

      Ronald wrote: " Proof expands"

      Hi truth be told / just sayin / captain america, the resident disgruntled ex Evangelical Fortune Cookie Co. "writer".

      September 16, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • Ronald Regonzo

      Prove it ass hole. Romney / Ryan 2012

      September 16, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      John the jewish what tribe of isreal your familes from????? bet you dont know do you?????

      September 16, 2012 at 6:08 pm |
    • Sheila

      Who said you have to vote for either of the candidates ? Maybe you should pay more attention to your voting Ballot.

      September 16, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
  6. Sheila

    The reason these problems exist is because people forge their "First Love"....God. Did God not give us the 2 greatest commandments ? 1. We are to love God with all our mind, heart and soul. 2. We are to love each other. All else hinges on these 2 commands. It is a simple resolve. Quit living by the ways of the world, quit trying to love according to "self ambition" and get back to the first 2 commandments. Teach the word of God truthfully and quit trying to twist it to fit personal or organizational agendas.

    September 16, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Which "god" did you have in mind? There have been so many it's difficult to tell...

      September 16, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
  7. smart man

    god is imaginary dot com

    September 16, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      you spelled god with a small g which is man but G capital G is the maker of man or small g,so you are baseing it on technology man small g
      god religion and not GOD MESSIANIC
      Powers

      September 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
  8. Pnm9pnm

    Aren't thay sapost to getting ready to leve earth?the meek get of the paint now Jews.an stay of don't come bake.pnm.

    September 16, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      Religion of man dont hold the secret
      of how the sun and moon was made
      from the beginning,religion was not in the start of time,religion can not
      make animals,trees,humans,fishes,or seas
      only the super natural powers of wisdom of the messianic kingdom

      September 16, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • Joe from CT, not Lieberman

      Dude, you letting your cat walk on the keyboard? Either that or you are just another ingorant troll.

      September 16, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      Hey joe tell me did jesus speak english

      September 16, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
  9. Stan Larson

    Please ask Mitt Romney: "If he were the US president, at what point or when would he, order the Nuking of Iran". Romney is quick to condemn Obama for trying diplomacy. So knowing that Iran has treaty with North Korea, who has treaty with China. When would Romney start world war 3 ?
    Second question. Will Romney son's serve in combat?

    September 16, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
  10. 200 TON HAMMER

    Why dont christians and jewish people pray at the western wall of the vatican
    in europe???????? why did king solomon
    never build a miskan in europe????????
    what happen too the european roman
    empire where is all the ceasers??????
    Why is the ottomon,greek,turkish,pearsian
    empires?????????????????

    September 16, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  11. Abraham

    WHOOOOOO CAAAAAARES????? ENOUGH about freakin' Israel!!!

    September 16, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      Please explain zechariah 14 ?????????

      September 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
    • Abraham

      Please Ton...tell me who the h*ll cares? You're writings are man made! Not done by a god or inspired by a god anymore than my morning bowel movement is!

      September 16, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
  12. 200 TON HAMMER

    What was king david customs????was it european customs,was it african customs,was it oriental people of the east customs,was it hebrew jewish customs,was it north american customs,was it pacific islanders customs????????? what holidays did king david celabrate???????did king david read from the king james bible book??????? did king david speak english over 3000 years ago???????

    September 16, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • hopefulrog

      do know. but Kind David was a Black man.

      September 16, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  13. Genesis 12:3

    I will bless those who bless you

    September 16, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      General George Washington,Understood that verse very well

      September 16, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
    • Bill P

      God actually gave three options:

      1. Bless – help, hail, and harbor
      2. Curse – harass, hinder, and harm
      3. Neutral – neither for nor against

      Though it is often unnatural to simply be neutral about anything, God leaves open the possibility that others will neither help nor harm Israel. In which case, He is also neutral towards them. I have often thought that, as told in the Old Testament, His direct interaction with the Jews, they in the past being hardened of heart and "stiff-necked", that He is not inclined to take as negative when another people or country is/are not inclined to overtly be friendly with Israel. That being said, I prefer to be on the "blessing" side of the equation as opposed to the "being cursed" side of the equation. And it has served the United States well for doing so – that is being a friend and ally of Israel. The curious thing is that there will come a time when Israel feels compelled to make a "deal with the Devil" (Daniel 9:27) – a prophecy which is yet to be fulfilled. For Israel to make a peace treaty with the anti-Christ means that no one else, or someone strong enough, is there to defend/help her. Where is the United States? However, until Obama came along and pulled the stability rug out from underneath the Middle East as well as showing contempt towards Israel, I had a hard time envisioning fulfillment of Dan 9:27. Now I see it more clearly.

      September 16, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
  14. 200 TON HAMMER

    Religion of man kind is what it has been all along just man with out super natutral powers,when I read the bible I look at the
    impossible things that happen by super natrual powers of the messianic kingdom
    like Elijah out running king Ahab royal horse after the mount carmel show down

    September 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    • a different Dan

      Man does have supernatural powers only he does not know it therefore does not have control of it. Hateful thoughts create hate for those who hate. Kind thoughts create love and kindness. The world we live in is what WE created by our hateful thoughts. "Vanity of vanity, all is vanity" and "I would rather be right than President" My opinion is right and yours is wrong because my ego requires it.

      September 16, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • 200 TON HAMMER

      A diffrent dan if man and his man made religion has super natural powers would man never physical die why do we have funeral homes????

      September 16, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
  15. dinkusmcgee

    CNN is the most anti-semitic, Jew-hating network on the AIRWAVES or INTERNET! And yet that dumb Wulf Snitzer keeps working for them...he should quit this black run Muzlim network and go to FOX NEWS!!!

    September 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    • Portland tony

      Wolf may not be the most outspoken news anchor, but that doesn't make him dumb enough to work for Fox.

      September 16, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  16. dinkusmcgee

    Don't let CNN get hold of this story as they identify Jews as Satan's benefactors!!!

    September 16, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
  17. 200 TON HAMMER

    I love zechariah chapter 14 gotta love the
    Messianic Kingdom Ulimited Supernatural
    Powers For Good.

    September 16, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • Sheila

      200 Ton Hammer, you judge God when you have not learned his nature or the scripture. That is like trying to understand the plot and story of any book by reading on paragraph. If you were seriously interested in understanding the scripture for YOUR OWN GOOD, then I would be glad to work with you on it. Otherwise, you are no better than the mockers of Jesus during his time on earth, who will face his wrath when he returns as you read in Zechariah 14. God not only will punish the rebellious ones at Jerusalem, but all those in the earth who rebel against his Kingdom. You can live in Satan's Kingdom or God's. The difference ? In God's Kingdom there will be love, joy, compassion, mercy the peace that transcends all understanding and eternal life. In Satan's which we are already living, Satan eventually kills all his own people and it isn't going to be pretty. There is no life after death if you follow Satan. Do not take the Mark of the Beast for then there can be an element of mercy. All those that take the Mark will not be allowed entrance into the Kingdom of Heaven.

      September 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
  18. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    Can't we all just live in Peace and have respect, if not love, for our fellow human beings. One day we will have to answer, one by one, and the importance of who you think you are will have no importance.

    September 16, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • Irony Bob

      Up yours, you moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      September 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    • hippy

      Well said Claudia!

      September 16, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  19. Sandy

    As this article' comes with "Jewish squabbles" as its heading, with the potential of reinforcing stereotypes of heatedly arguing Jews, its grander purpose is ???

    September 16, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  20. AvdBerg

    The local media, including CNN, Fox and your local TV stations and newspapers are a very important element of social and political behavior as society is shaped by what it sees, hears and reads and it is conditioned by the events that influence the mind of every person. You reap what you sow.

    To allow anyone to be directed by public opinion is dangerous because most public opinion is the view of the media. If the media does not like something, their bias taints information getting to the public, and this forms public opinion. Public opinion is never based on research and facts. The public uses the media for its sole source of information and for this reason social behavior will continue to deteriorate and wax worse and worse (2 Timothy 3:13).

    For a better understanding of the role of the media we invite you to read the articles ‘Influence of the Media’ and ‘CNN Belief Blog – Sign of the Times’, listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    The media does not provide accurate information on ‘Religion’ as it continues to ignore the truth and its history of deceptions (John 14:17). They have created the big chasm that now exists, without offering any solutions.

    Consider the truth about Judaism, Evangelicals, Christianity and Islam and all the others and ask yourself the following question.

    Are so-called Israelites, Evangelicals and Muslims and all those that call themselves ‘Christians’ followers of the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Word of God, or do they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ (Matthew 24:24; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Gal. 4:8)?

    For a better understanding of the history of Christianity, Judaism and Islam and its spread throughout the world, we invite you to read the articles ‘Can Christianity or Any Other Religion Save You?’, ‘World History and Developments in the Middle East’ and ‘Clash of Civilizations’, listed on our website http://www.aworlddeceived.ca

    All of the other pages and articles listed on our website explain how and by whom this whole world has been deceived as confirmed in Revelation 12:9.

    September 16, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
    • Shut up!!!!

      Die of cancer and go to hell, you spamming jackass!!

      September 16, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • AvdBerg

      Shut up!!!

      Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake (Matthew 5:11).

      September 16, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
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