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Vatican newspaper calls fragment referring to Jesus' wife 'a fake'
The fragment is written in Coptic, a language used by some early Christians.
September 28th, 2012
02:30 PM ET

Vatican newspaper calls fragment referring to Jesus' wife 'a fake'

By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors

(CNN) - The Vatican on Friday appeared to push back on a recently publicized piece of papyrus that appears to show an early Christian referring to Jesus' wife, with its newspaper calling the fragment “a fake.”

“Substantial reasons would lead us to conclude that the papyrus is actually a clumsy counterfeit,” the Vatican’s  newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, said in a Friday editorial by the newspaper’s editor.

“In other words, in any case it is a fake,” wrote L'Osservatore Romano editor-in-chief Gian Maria Vian.

The fragment referring to Jesus wife was written in Coptic, a language used by Egyptian Christians, and says in part, "Jesus said to them, 'My wife ..."

The paper is generally thought to reflect the views of Vatican officials.

5 Questions and answers about Jesus’ “wife”

Harvard Divinity School professor Karen King announced the findings of the 1.5- by 3-inch honey-colored fragment earlier this month in Rome at the International Association for Coptic Studies.

King was quick to add this discovered text "does not, however, provide evidence that the historical Jesus was married," she wrote in a draft of her analysis of the fragment set to appear in the January edition of Harvard Theological Review.

"This fragment, this new piece of papyrus evidence, does not prove that (Jesus) was married, nor does it prove that he was not married,” King said in a conference call with reporters earlier in the month. “The earliest reliable historical tradition is completely silent on that.

“So we're in the same position we were before it was found,” she continued. “We don't know if he was married or not."

In the accounts of Jesus' life in the Bible, there is no mention of his marital status, while the accounts do mention Jesus' mother, father and siblings.

Opinion: What fascination with Jesus’ “wife” tells us

The four Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John – tell the story of Jesus' birth and early childhood then skip to his short, three-year ministry before detailing his death and resurrection.

In its Friday editorial, the Vatican newspaper took aim at what it said was a media campaign to spread word of the papyrus despite questions about its authenticity.

“American media outlets had been alerted, a preventive press conference by Karen L. King held to prepare a global scoop which was immediately put into question by the experts,” the paper said.

- CNN"s Hada Messia contributed reporting from Rome

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Catholic Church • Christianity • Vatican

soundoff (2,552 Responses)
  1. Shardik

    Interesting the idea of a man being married to a woman seems to offend the Catholic Church.

    September 29, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
  2. Doc Johnson

    I can tell you after many and many years of research of my own, including a number of papers, that there is much that does not get told in popular academia.

    For example, Jesus tells us that his father and mother "have not spaketh a single word in two years plus three. This sounds like a man scorned to me.

    How can we prove marital troubles in the home of Jesus? Reading from Mary (Magdalene), she says, "when Joseph's gaze met mine I felt a burning deep within....." She goes on to discuss Jesus' jealousy and rage.

    Is it possible Joseph never forgave Mary for her affair, and Joseph and Jesus were competing for Mary Magdalene’s affection?

    September 29, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • W.G.

      Evidently it wasn´t a Christian Bible you were reading : Maybe it was a Non-Christian book like a mormon one or a Jehovas witness book .

      September 29, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • Doc Johnson

      W.G., my area of study is the Gnostic Gospels.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
  3. John

    What a coincidence, so is religion.

    September 29, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
  4. shrewd consumer

    According to Bible, and Jesus...

    1. Church (temple, synagogue) is a place for "hypocrites".
    2. Priests are "hypocrites, all".
    3. God "does not live" in church, and he is "not served by human hands" (i.e. you), ... "as if he needed anything".

    1.
    Jesus said, DON'T be like the hypocrites, who go to church, but instead go to your room to pray. THEN God "will reward you."

    "when you pray, do not be like the HYPOCRITES, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men ... WHEN YOU PRAY, go into your ROOM, close the door and pray to your Father ... THEN your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
    – Matthew 6:5

    2.
    Jesus said PRIESTS were "hypocrites, all." And, he said it at least half a dozen times. He also said "do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach". Then he said he's NOT going to church/temple anymore.

    After Jesus finished calling the PRIESTS "hypocrites," AND KILLERS ("you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you"), Jesus then tells the priests he's NOT coming back to temple/church ("Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord”).
    – Matthew 23:39

    3.
    Even Saul (Paul) said,
    “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and DOES NOT LIVE in temples built by hands. 25 And HE IS NOT SERVED by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else."
    – Acts 17:24

    According to Jesus and Bible, we should NOT go to church (like the hypocrites), or follow the church priests ("hypocrites, all" ... "false prophets", "workers of lawlessness", "You snakes!", etc). Instead of going to church, Jesus said we should go to our ROOM to pray. "THEN your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

    Jesus did NOT tell people to go to church. He only said that upon Peter he would build his church.

    However, the problem is that "church" was not even a word until 1200s. And "kirche", a Greek word on which Church is derived, was itself not a word until 300s. So, Jesus never said he would build a "church". And notice, he also did not use the word "temple", which was available then. Some Bible translations indicate Jesus meant he was building a "congregation" (a following) beginning with Peter, but Jesus wasn't authorizing Peter to build a church or temple. Jesus was looking to gain Followers. But, even Jesus didn't expect too many takers, because he said that path was very narrow, and was hidden behind a narrow gate, and too few would find it.

    But, To see what it was that Jesus said must be done to follow him, go to Bible.cc and search for "follow me". It searches through 17 Bible translations. You'll find the requirements to follow Jesus are very high. So high, that I personally have never seen a real Christian, meaning a real follower of Jesus, because there are none. There are only people who imagine they are Christians, and most of them don't even know WHAT Jesus said was required to be his follower. In fact, Christians are so ignorant of their own religion, I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of so-called Christians can't list the Ten Commandments. Ha, ha. Just 10 short commandments. How hard can it really be? They all have 10 digits in their phone number, and they manage to remember those 10.

    I think I have to agree with Jesus, ... Don't be like the hypocrites who go to church. And, the same goes for the priests, "do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach".

    Jesus was right, the people in church really are "hypocrites."

    September 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • Richie Conway

      Hi Shrewd Consumer –

      For a cohesive argument i think we can agree that it's more than just using proper logic to come to a conclusion. If any of the premises are faulty then it fails. You stated that Jesus taught that priest were bad. Peter, the man who he said was the rock that would build his church, said in 1 Peter 2:9 says, "But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." Jesus redefined what a priesthood was- we are all priests, not just those in the cloak. They would be teachers.

      2) Issue with premise one: the word church in the bible doesn't mean a physical building, which you are correct about, but it doesn't mean that there wasn't a church. Church is the word Ekklesia, which is a gathering of people. And he did come to create a nation of priests that would go out "making disciples of all the nations." He did come to make a church (the gathering of his people), that would live out a walk together as the body of Christ.

      3)True that God is not served by human hands but Jesus said, "Go ye therefore making disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, son and holy spirit." As in, he gave us a job! He gave us a way not to serve him to gain salvation but to praise him by spreading the truth. He doesn't need us to but has given us that calling.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • Timothy Guy

      The real problem is everything you posted is not based on anything a person named "Jesus" actually said. Mark was a 3rd generation Greek speaking believer from Rome who was NOT a disciple of peter. Matthew copied mark and added more to the story, he was also Greek speaking and never met Jesus. Luke copied mark and like Matthew took the oral hearsay that had been around and wrote his book, he never knew Jesus either nor heard a single word he said. John was written by a group of semi gnostic Christians who lived hundreds and hundreds of miles from Israel and who made up wholesale virtually everything in the book and had some loose tie ins with mark. the Jesus of john is a completely different person than the Jesus of the other gospels.

      The bottom line? Neither you nor anyone else knows a single word Jesus ever said. These things were legendary hearsay that got passed around and changed for decades and decades before the first person mark wrote a single thing down. The church and all of Christianity is based on nothing but hot air.

      The proof of that is that NONE of Jesus words have ever come true and the only reason they appear to is some of them were written after the fact. Try finding a single retarded child, blind child, quadriplegic or other seriously deformed or injured person that has EVER been healed instantly in Jesus name. You wont find it.. it has never happened.

      JESUS IS FICTION.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
  5. R. L. Hails Sr. P. E.

    This is a non story. It simply proves that speculation will run wild in the media, bought by ignoramuses, whereas scholars will not fall into a phoney controversy. Dr, King, and her colleagues readily attempt that this fragment is interesting, may be a 4th century writing, may be incorrect, and/or may be a fraud. She recently presented what she knew in a conference in Rome, probably the world wide center of biblical scholars. A Vatican announcement was inevitable.

    Read the Book, not a slip of parchment, lacking a coherent sentence.

    September 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
    • Timothy Guy

      speculation! LOL the entire new testament is wild speculation with no verifiable history.

      If Constantine had not seen a "ufo" that resembled a cross in the sky and then won a battle against a rival Christianity would be the size of a pea today. Its all politics and social dynamics.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
  6. Towelie

    I am so high right now, I don't even know what's going on.

    September 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Joe Friday

      DEA is tracking your computer.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • Towelie

      @Joe Friday

      Joe you are a towel!! Do you wanna get high?

      September 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
  7. Dunzo

    Right, so after no forensic analysis or investigation, it's just announced to be a fake by the Vatican. And no less by the same people who denounced Avatar. Yeah, moving right along.

    September 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • Doc Johnson

      In my research I have found that Mary Magdalene was in fact both consort and wife. A consort was simply a companion. If you read the scriptures, you will find that in the late BE and early CE, it was actually possible to both be married and single simultaneously.

      How you ask?

      You must refer to the Gnostic versus attributed to Phillip who said, "Be it spouse or alone, we are only that which our threshold allows on the Sabbath."

      Loosely translated it means a woman can be beholden to a man one day, and quite free the next! This makes polygamy possible without breaking God's law against Adultery.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  8. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .. .

    September 29, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi Prayerbot

      September 29, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Brian

      ... for the worse.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
    • nope

      @brian
      nope

      September 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Timothy Guy

      if it were not for Atheism and liberal/social Christianity then the "Church" would still be burning people at the stake for heresy, hunting witches and many many other atrocious things.

      Prayer may change things.. but the only thing Jesus changes is normal people with problems into sociopaths.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • ChuckB

      It is interesing to find out who was responsible for increasing religious tolerance in England; Oliver Cromwell. If he is know at all today, it is as a dour, intolerant puritan. He was a Puritan, but not intolerant. As an independent or dissenting Puritan. he was very accepting of dissenting views on religion and understood that if he were to be free in his exercising them, he would have to accept differing beliefs. Jews were expelled from England in 1290 by Edward I. Cromwell in 1656 allowed a small group of Shephardic Jews that were uncovered to remain in England. Tim, you are spot on. Religious minorites and non-beliers realyze that their existence depends on toleration.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
  9. jose jimenez

    any critically thinking person should have immediately and intuitively known, based on the source of this 'discovery', her biography, her politics, and her associations, that it is a hoax. the left largely believes jesus never existed, so why perpetrate the fraud? to cover their anti-christian rhetorical bases.

    September 29, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Doc Johnson

      Jesus was quite real, and quite human; even Timothy and Philip knew the true nature of Christ, as evidenced in this passage from the Gospel of Philip, "...and our Lord came unto me and witnessed as I behaved without intimidation."

      Scholars believe this is evidence of group s.e.x.u.a.l activity, common place at this time in history among men afield.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • Timothy Guy

      Everyone should be anti christian. As it is completely fabricated nonsense with no factual source evidence. You actually believe that you will be riding with Jesus on flying white horses in the sky! Even better you will be doing that in order to kill the poor remaining people on earth after "jesus" has killed most of the rest with natural disasters.

      So Jesus can freeze the sun in the sky for 12 hours so Joshua can kill some more enemies of Israel.. but he cant heal a single child in a wheel chair in any church in the world... BUT one day after its to late and people are screwed he will pop into the sky with billions of angels and Christians on flying white horses.

      Tell me again how ANY rational person should believe or even want to believe the immoral world view in the bible?

      September 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  10. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    September 29, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • HeavenSense

      Hi Prayerbot....

      September 29, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
  11. Arthur

    It shakes things up Big time. One of the things He did was marry a couple at Canon. That makes him a Rabbi. At the time, Jews were concerned about population growth and it was required that a Rabbi be married and to have produced a male child. The fate of the first male child isn't important, but it makes a pregnant Mary Magdalena a fine choice for the "Holy Grail" .

    September 29, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Doc Johnson

      Jesus never actually said he believed in God. In fact, if you read the Bible you will learn that Jesus actually believed in what he called, "The Divine".

      What does this mean? Jesus while inarticulate and a bit clumsy in general, had an excellent grasp of the fundamentals of what the Native Americans call, "Mother Earth" and what it is to be a "Human Being".

      How do we know this?

      Look at the teachings of Jesus in the Gnostic literature that relates to being reborn as a Snake, a Lizard, and a Spider. Why did Jesus feel he was reincarnated; and why these animals and insects? That is easy if you read the Gospel of Mary.

      Mary had many pet names for her lover and among them were Snake, Lizard, and Spider. Snake and Lizard I can understand, but the passages relative to Spider are less clear.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
  12. Klaus

    The text was discovered to be a fraud when it was found to read, "Jesus said to them, 'Take my wife, please.'"

    September 29, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • Mick

      B

      September 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • Mick

      BWHWAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA!!! THAT WAS FUNNY!

      September 29, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
  13. Reality

    The RCC is basically fake so what else is new. – only for the new members of this blog:

    To wit:

    Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.

    earlychristianwritings.com/

    For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".

    Current RCC problems:

    Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!
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    September 29, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • jose jimenez

      doubtless, REALITY, you have no problem with ISLAM, right?

      https://www.facebook.com/?sk=welcome#!/profile.php?id=100004048730345

      September 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • Reality

      Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder

      September 30, 2012 at 12:27 am |
  14. Doc Johnson

    I have spent a great deal of my professional life in the study of the Gnostic Gospels. As it turns out, the majority of “prophets” contributing to these scriptures was quite illiterate and most likely drew pictures to explain their wisdom.

    Needless to say, transcribing pictographs to verse was a tough task for the monks in those early centuries.

    Moreover, Jesus was the worst of the lot. This poor man could not even draw stick figures in the sand and apparently could not be trusted with anything sharp enough to draw with. As the story goes, Jesus would have to play a primitive form of "charades" while his scribes tried to guess his meaning.

    Most scholars agree that this is why these books were omitted from the Holy Bible.

    September 29, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • nope

      @doc...
      nope

      September 29, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

      Prayer changes things . .

      September 29, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • Lilith

      nope & atheism, now we just need you to post as Just sayin & Heavensent and a few others. Bad form on miltiple responses using different aliases.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • nope

      No proof lilith ?
      calibrate your post as bull sh it
      As to you
      nope !

      September 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • nope

      No proof lilith ?
      calibrate your post as bull sh it
      As to you
      nope !

      September 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      @Lilith

      You atheists try to steal my handle and spew your lies about Jesus. I come on these articles to tell you Jesus' truth. My camel-toe just gobbled up two more kitties. Keep doing the devil's bidding and find yourself in his burning fire for all eternity.

      Amen.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Lilith

      nope, no proof – Just like religion lol

      September 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
  15. Alexander Moon

    I smell a rat in this fortuitous discovery. At a moment when Coptics are being persecuted in Egypt by muslim extremists, I have no doubt that the islamic world would do anything to cast aspersions upon the sacred person of Jesus as a retaliation. They fail to realize that Christians do not resort to barbaric murders as Islam does.

    September 29, 2012 at 11:53 am |
    • Inquisitor general

      Surely you jest about christians not being barbaric?!

      September 29, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • david c.

      ni kidding..i mean, the crusades weren't barbaric, nor were all the world wars...let he who is without sin......this is just the Vatican's way of trying to quell anything that might change how christ is viewed..hilarious spin on their part.

      September 29, 2012 at 11:57 am |
    • tony homan

      Absolutely!!! Not a drop of blood on the hands of the Catholic church. LMFAO

      September 29, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • Dave

      Barbaric? Execution is barbaric. We do a lot of those. Buying "blood diamonds" for which many Africans have been killed, is fairly barbaric, yet many of those diamonds are in the possession of wealthy Americans. What about the thousands of innocent Iraqi's we have killed? You going to take responsibility for our part in that, or are you just going to blame someone else? You have a mental illness called Xtianity.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • t

      Christians murder people every day in the United states and around the world. Christians invaded 2 continents and killed 95% of the indigenous population and forced few remaining to convert by torture and the threat of death. Not very "Christian" but it happened. Christians have done horrible things in the name of Christ. All religions have been used as tool to control the poor, angry, and ignorant masses.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
    • OTOH

      Alexander Moon,
      "They fail to realize that Christians do not resort to barbaric murders"

      Ah, but they did... and stopped mainly because of secular, civil law. Sure wish we knew how to get some Enlightenment concepts to apply to radical Islam.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
    • ChuckB

      Catholic and Anglican priests and nuns participated in the mass killings in Rwanda. That is recent history. Without the separation of church and state here, what might have been done in the way of atrocities in the name of Christ? We even had/have soldiers relishing in "killing a commie for Christ." Would this only be restricted to killings on the field of battle?

      September 29, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
  16. ChuckB

    Surprise? If this were true the Church would be out of business.

    September 29, 2012 at 11:52 am |
    • nope

      @chuck...
      nope

      September 29, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • ChuckB

      If one component of the "tradition" is found to be spurious, then all of the other components would be in doubt.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:09 pm |
  17. Philip

    So King writes, “The earliest reliable historical tradition is completely silent on that." regarding whether Jesus was married. Apparently the historical tradition of Jesus' followers over a 2,000 year period is not "reliable."

    Sadly these types of stories always get blown up because there is a segment of the population that wants desperately to historically disprove anything Christian. My own opinion is that some of these people are so obsessed with the idea because they are mad at God for some reason.

    Finally, Dear CNN: The Bible refers to Jesus' brothers - the same word was used for cousins, so the Bible does not refer to Jesus' siblings. You might want to ask the original Christians (Catholics) when researching stories relating to the Catholic Church.

    September 29, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • david c.

      ummm..the original christians were, in fact, jews, and they invented christianity a few hundred years after jesus died.

      September 29, 2012 at 11:58 am |
    • Alexander Moon

      .. original Christians [catholics] .. certainly were not catholic by today's description. The earliest Christian churches were jews and gentiles accepting the atonement of Christ's death. There was no special adoration of Mary, nor of idol statues. And, the so-called non-canonical books of "Apocrypha" were not even included in scripture [for catholics] until 1648. If ever there was such an office of the First Priest .. it was James at the church in Jerusalem. And, James was fallible, as we all are. There is no mediator between us and God .. not even a pope.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
    • Dave

      What is the Pope going to say? "We were hoping you wouldn't find out"? C'mon, get smart. It isn't in the Church's interest to acknowledge Yshua's heritage. The fact that Jewish men in his era HAD to married has been sidestepped by the doctrine of Saul called Paul. The fact is that the Christian Scriptures really does neither confirm or deny Yshuas marital status. Lot's of hanging around with Mary of Magdala though.

      September 29, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
  18. Big Man

    Much of the abrahamic religions is fakery and myths from other and older cultures.

    September 29, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • nope

      @big...
      nope

      September 29, 2012 at 11:56 am |
    • ChuckB

      Yep, yep.

      September 29, 2012 at 11:58 am |
  19. judeamorris

    So this fragment has been denied as false by the same church that has for centuries displayed "relics" that are supposedly saints' body parts and cause miracles. Hmmm. What are they so afraid of?

    September 29, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • Doc Johnson

      The evidence would suggest that Judas, Mary, Jesus and others spent a great deal of their down time reflecting on the spiritual dichotomy of the soul vs. the physical and how that relates to the teachings of God.

      Why did they do this? Jesus was attracted to Buddhism and often rested his decisions on the non-bias imaginings of one who would make sacrifice in this life only to be reborn in the next.

      In short, Jesus was a Jew by birth, but not by practice. He taught his own flavor of Buddhism and his closest disciples, Judas and Mary for example, were quite sure he was a snake in a previous life....

      September 29, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
  20. fryuujin

    WHAT! no way, FAKE? Really, isn't all religions just based upon fake stuff?

    September 29, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • nope

      @fry...
      nope

      September 29, 2012 at 11:55 am |
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