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 The fragment is written in Coptic, a language used by some early Christians.
September 28th, 2012
02:30 PM ET
Vatican newspaper calls fragment referring to Jesus' wife 'a fake'By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors (CNN) - The Vatican on Friday appeared to push back on a recently publicized piece of papyrus that appears to show an early Christian referring to Jesus' wife, with its newspaper calling the fragment “a fake.” “Substantial reasons would lead us to conclude that the papyrus is actually a clumsy counterfeit,” the Vatican’s newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, said in a Friday editorial by the newspaper’s editor. “In other words, in any case it is a fake,” wrote L'Osservatore Romano editor-in-chief Gian Maria Vian. The fragment referring to Jesus wife was written in Coptic, a language used by Egyptian Christians, and says in part, "Jesus said to them, 'My wife ..." The paper is generally thought to reflect the views of Vatican officials. 5 Questions and answers about Jesus’ “wife” Harvard Divinity School professor Karen King announced the findings of the 1.5- by 3-inch honey-colored fragment earlier this month in Rome at the International Association for Coptic Studies. King was quick to add this discovered text "does not, however, provide evidence that the historical Jesus was married," she wrote in a draft of her analysis of the fragment set to appear in the January edition of Harvard Theological Review. "This fragment, this new piece of papyrus evidence, does not prove that (Jesus) was married, nor does it prove that he was not married,” King said in a conference call with reporters earlier in the month. “The earliest reliable historical tradition is completely silent on that. “So we're in the same position we were before it was found,” she continued. “We don't know if he was married or not." In the accounts of Jesus' life in the Bible, there is no mention of his marital status, while the accounts do mention Jesus' mother, father and siblings. Opinion: What fascination with Jesus’ “wife” tells us The four Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John – tell the story of Jesus' birth and early childhood then skip to his short, three-year ministry before detailing his death and resurrection. In its Friday editorial, the Vatican newspaper took aim at what it said was a media campaign to spread word of the papyrus despite questions about its authenticity. “American media outlets had been alerted, a preventive press conference by Karen L. King held to prepare a global scoop which was immediately put into question by the experts,” the paper said. - CNN"s Hada Messia contributed reporting from Rome |
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One day all religions will be dismissed as "Mythology"...much like the Greek myths.......it needs to happen soon
There are people who still worship 'gods', including those of Greek mythology and Norse mythology. So good luck with that.
Religions are hinduism, corruption of truth absolute by hindu Jew's, criminal secular s to hind, fool humanity
Atheists are fleeting as the blink of the eye, whereas, God is eternal.
Your god is eternally non-existent.
Oh the atheist heathens are spouting lies as usual.
Ooohh what a surprise..the Vatican't is not happy with the truth
how do you know is the truth were you there with Jesus and Magdalena?
Elena, you're right about the truth of course. But then is the Vatican?
The Da Vinci files movie is fiction.
Its interesting to see people very eager to attack Christianity but they defend Israel right to the holly land based on a supposed promise by SAME GOD you attack here!
True Christians will be back in Israel when Jesus returns. Until then, it's polluted.
And the Bible is fake..
You are referring to the atheist bible.
Christianity is an industry – Blind Faith and Trust is the required life line for this machinery. This evil edifice of evangelical Christianity will crash and crumble one day.
A source to spread of hinduism, illegality, action's without accountability, Way of hindu's of savior ism, criminals to justify their hinduism.
Come on. Why can't a human being, who has had such an impact on life not know the loving touch of another.
The happiness, love and forgiveness that joining with another can bring.
Jesus, like all of us lovers had to know; not only the pain of love but also the glory that their lover brings to them.
But...the vatican can not allow the posibility that Jesus may have any heirs, cause if one of them is a woman, well.....
AZ, I glad you enjoyed the movie the Da Vinci codes, but, it was labeled fiction.
It doesn't fit with what they want Catholics to believe, so of course, it has to be a fake.
You may be right, there was nothing supernatural that happened with Jesus' crucifixion, but then again ....supernatural events did occur while Christ hung on the cross. And it's stranger than any fiction you would ever read, because in that case, it wasn't fiction. And the Canonical gospels are backed up by other ancient testimonies to what happened. Specific supernatural events are mentioned in the Bible. If one read for 40 years and missed that, maybe you were reading with your 'eyes' closed.
I find this story fascinating althouth it does not hold my interest.
Mary Magdalene: Do the nails hurt, my lord?
Jesus: Not as much as the gonorrhea you gave me, you b!tch!
I can tell you after many and many years of research of my own, including a number of papers, that there is much that does not get told in popular academia.
For example, Jesus tells us that his father and mother "have not spaketh a single word in two years plus three. This sounds like a man scorned to me.
How can we prove marital troubles in the home of Jesus? Reading from Mary (Magdalene), she says, "when Joseph's gaze met mine I felt a burning deep within...." She goes on to discuss Jesus' jealousy and rage.
Is it possible Joseph never forgave his wife Mary for her affair and Joseph and Jesus were competing for Mary Magdalene’s affection?
Doc please site your sources for the rest of us to read!
A little known fact for you Doc Johnson, all Christians are the brides of Christ and he is the bridegroom. Therefore, Mary Magdalene is no different than any Christian that is the bride of Christ. To comprehend this statement, you need to read the Bible.
So nobody at the Vatican has ANY CLUE as to whether this is real or a fake and are calling it a fake in a knee-jerk reaction.
Funny how they know prayers aren't going to work in determining the truth, eh? EH?
All Christians are the brides of Christ.
Of course it's fake. The fact is that we have little or no direct evidence of Jesus' life. And while I suppose he probable was a real person, we can be most certain that the tales of his exploits as found in the good book (funny name) are about as historically accurate as those about Beowulf.
I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.
Max Plank
(As quoted in The Observer (25 January 1931)
Most of what the church teaches is fake anyway. Made up to control people.
Carl Sagan: "Those worlds in space are as countless as all the grains of sand on all the beaches on earth". And we're to believe i n an all loving all-powerful god that listens to our prayers? "Oh, I see that Carl is having a problem today. Let me see what I can do to help". Sure.
How are you going to help Sagan today?
I love articles like these. It brings only closer to the fact that it's such a raging debate on if Christ is who he really is and that for which he stands ~ seemingly it goes on and on forever. But in such a way the very 'devil' has to be in the details somewhere.
I think the Vatican is fake. Nothing but the reminants of the fallen Roman Empire.
Of course it's a fake.....................until it's not. And anyway, Haysus wasn't married. He was always hangin' out ( ;-0 ) with those 12 guys!
The majority of the books of the New Testament were written between 15 and 40 years after Jesus' ministry.
Letters of Paul written between 15 – 35 years after Jesus
Mark – 20 years
Peter's letters – 25 years
Luke / Acts – 35 year
Matthew – 40 years
All this happened while living eye witnesses were around to back up the stories.
This was written 150 years after the facts. That is a big difference. What it does show was that there was much talk about Jesus in the 2nd Century.
There are other Gospels that were omitted from the Bible that allude to a relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene.
What difference does time make? The Old Testament was not written when it happened. It was made up thousands of years later.
The old testament was written thousands of years of after things happened, lol, is one of the most ignorant comments I have ever read about the Bible
Jesus was not even born when it was writen!
Before writing was verbal communication.
Writing pre-dates Abraham.
The bible contains a collection of myths that were wrtten earler in cuniform writing in ancient Mesopotamia.
The flood myth is one.
Prayer changes things ,
Creepy thrashing nags.
Prayer has been proven to have a negative effect, so I agree that prayer changes things. It makes them worse.
Look up Templeton Prayer Study if you want more information.
Prayer is an excuse people give when they don't really care enough to offer help, but instead would rather talk to themselves and pretend like it makes a difference.
Sean, scientist have study the practice of prayer and found that the frontal lobes of nonbelievers are not working.
Seans last comment indicate his frontal lobes, rear lobes and everything in between are not working
i normally dont reply but really you will read the tabloids but not the bible MORONS
I've read the Bible - did so for over 40 years - interesting, but not a shred of evidence for the supernatural.
Next....
of course you didn't find supernatural because not even god is supernatural God its natural and cant be found in the Bible only inside us. but that is too profound for shallow minds to understand. would like trying to teach the wave function of a particle to a chimpanzee! Not even atheist understand it either!
I read it cover to cover. If that's what God is really like, the no thanks. However, for some real entertainment value, try smoking some pot and reading "Revelations".
Guess What. I wouldn't brag about not being able to comprehend what Jesus had written.
Elena & Too Much,
Gee, I guess I am real stupid, but at least I don't brag that some fantasy King of the Universe loves me. Shall I PRETEND?
He loves you so much, he'll ensure you don't spend eternity with the rest of us that loves him.