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October 10th, 2012
12:01 PM ET
Congressman draws fire for calling evolution, Big Bang ‘lies from the pit of hell’By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor Washington (CNN) - A U.S. congressman is attracting attention and criticism for an online video that shows him blasting evolution and the Big Bang theory as “lies from the pit of hell” in a recent speech at a church event in his home state of Georgia. “All that stuff I was taught about evolution, embryology, the Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell,” U.S Rep. Paul Broun said in an address last month at a banquet organized by Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Georgia. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.” Broun, a medical doctor by training, serves on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. Speaking at Liberty Baptist Church’s Sportsman’s Banquet on September 27, he said that “a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth.” Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter “I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old,” Broun said in the speech, which Liberty Baptist Church posted on its website via YouTube. “I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says." Scientists say that the Earth is roughly 4.5 billion years old and that the universe dates back 13.7 billion years. In his speech to the church group, Broun called the Bible the “the manufacturer’s handbook. … It teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in our society.” “That’s the reason, as your congressman, I hold the holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that,” he said. A spokeswoman for the congressman, Meredith Griffanti, said that Broun was not available for comment on Wednesday and that the video showed him “speaking off the record to a large church group about his personal beliefs regarding religious issues.” The congressman’s remarks about science have drawn attention online, with critics taking aim at his role on the science committee. Bill Nye, the popular science personality, told the Huffington Post in an e-mail that "Since the economic future of the United States depends on our tradition of technological innovation, Representative Broun's views are not in the national interest." "For example, the Earth is simply not 9,000 years old," said Nye, a mechanical engineer and television personality best known for his program "Bill Nye the Science Guy." Broun "is, by any measure, unqualified to make decisions about science, space, and technology." Talking Points Memo reported on the church video over the weekend after being tipped off by the Bridge Project, a progressive group that tracks conservative activity. Most creationists believe in the account of the origins of the world as told in the Book of Genesis, the first book of the Bible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories In the creation account, God creates Adam and Eve, the world and everything in it in six days. For Christians who read the Genesis account literally, or authoritatively as they would say, the six days in the account are literal 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years. The Gallup Poll has been tracking Americans' views on creation and evolution for 30 years. In June, it released its latest findings, which showed that 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution. - CNN's Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report. |
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There is certainly no law against stupidity, but I wish there would be a law against it in candidates for Congress. It's hard to believe that in 2012 a Congressman could be so ignorant.
Years of Republicans relying on rube bait electoral strategies has a certain blowback...eventually the rubes start electing other rubes. It's not just Broun...the modern GOP is infested with these throwbacks now. It's sad, because there was a time when the Republicans were an intellectual party. Even Barry Goldwater was shaking his head over what they had become toward the end of his life.
Just look at the milky way, and realize that all those points of light are suns, and most likely have solar systems. And we're to think we're special, or that god looks down and says "Oh, I see that Joe has a problem, well, let me fix it"
No. It was god that had the problem. He was po'd for so long, that he made his son go die, so he could feel better.
What an idiot! You could whack these religious-nut clowns upside the head with a dinosaur bone and still not be able to knock some common sense into them. This jerk should be removed from any part of the government.
Unfortunately, he was voted into power by some other idiots...not much we can do about it.
It's not even news anymore. Wake me up when you find a Republican who "believes" 2+2=4.
I may have held that position at one time and I certainly can again if its what they want in Ohio.
For large values of 2. Find a Dem that understands that.
Insulting an entire group of people is idiotic isn't it.
The question should be “Why do Americans want their political parties to be associated with a genocidal mass murdering terrorist:
"And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead." (Exodus 12:29-30)
(terrorism – killing those with no political power to force political change by those with political power)
This guy, and the likes of him, are just as dangerous if not more so, than the Taliban. Keep your religious beliefs to yourself you moron.
Why is this person serving on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology? I'm very concerned – how can he possibly serve on a committee he denies the principles of? This counters our best interest... We have to make sure he is removed.
This is like the people who home school their kids or send them to religious schools trying to get on the school board to slash the budget as much as possible.
Another religious weirdo that believes in imaginary things. And guys like this run the country? No wonder it's all screwed up.
If life exists on say 100 other planets, did He appear on all of them and offer the teachings?
We have well over 100 billion other planets. There are more planets in the universe then grains of sand on every beach on earth.
"teachings"? You mean stuff that sounds like it was written by someone with severe mental problems?
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Christian Fundamentalist: Life only exists on Earth. God made it so.
Scientist find life on another Planet.
Christian Fundamentalist: Intelligent life only exists on Earth. God made it so.
Scientist find intelligent life on another Planet.
Christian Fundamentalist: Intelligent life with a soul only exists on Earth. God made it so.
Alien missionaries arrive to save the souls of the people of Earth by spreading the word of the True God who's only daughter was born, preached, and died on their planet.
If the church does not invent new lies then people will continue to leave. The largest growing group is the non religious. Get with it!!! Invent someone else sent by your lord to write new rules like they did when the bible was written. Until then I chose to follow modern science then a book written by man 1500 years ago.
Joseph Smith did just that.
Leave your religious beliefs out of politics in this country you moron. I could care less what you believe. And you should care less what I believe! Go to church if you like, great. Just don't bring these silly beliefs with you when you cast your votes on issues which affect my country.
Broun is my hero. I like it when people are honest. May God bless him. We need this rejection of political correctness that we see from him. Seek Jesus.
Seek Jesus on your on time. Some of us do and don't let it get in the way of this little idea of separation of church and state.
seek medical treatment and keep religion out of politics.
Sure, he was being honest in his talk at the church, but too bad he's also stupid.
And he'll be dishonest and say his remarks were taken out of context during the upcoming firestorm.
Go seek your dead guy on your own time, and keep your ridiculous beliefs out of our government.
@ Go_GOP
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And yet its equally terrifying to those of us who don't believe given that this man is in a position of public authoirty over the sciences and for him to say this means that he is fundemtally ignoring or not understanding the basic facts on the subject established by the scientific community that he is supposed to have a hand in the local governance of.
Personally, I believe in the coexistance of creationism and a belief in evolution. I think its hubris to believe that we fully understand the mechanism of God's creation or have some certain knowledge of the time scale. If there were dinosaurs, then that must be part of what happened, same goes for the fact that millions of years must have past. The literal translation of the bible by modern christianity is the only thing that keeps these two conceps from being reconcilable.
BD
That's just as ignorant. Creationism is no science, and there is not a shred of evidence for it. Evolution is a science. By that model, ANY nutty belief system is to be held equal. Do YOU hold equal the belief that there is a 1957 Chevy orbiting Pluto ? No. The comparison is false, and dangerous.
"We need this rejection of political correctness."
No, what you really mean is that we need a rejection of common sense, logic, and fact.
You can still be a Christian and reject the stupidity that you and Braun are spewing.
To Rufus: you mention computers – they were manufactured by intelligent beings. Nature cannot do that. But the human brain and millions of other artifacts around us are not made by people. How come that non-intelligent matter can do things superior to those made by intelligent beings? The truth is that far above everything we know and see was the Great Scientist who made all things. This is logic, this is reasoning, this is common sense, this is science.
Stefan
The same principles that enable a computer to world enabled life to start.
So it took 4.5 billion years for the computer to be created.
I mean really Stefan, the word in blue "Reply", what do you find so difficult. You are embarassing me, why don't you switch to one of the other guys Zeus, Brahma, Vishnu, Chu Jung, The FSM, anyone but me.
Post by 'Stefan Radu" is an instance of the Argument from Ignorance fallacy.
http://fallacyfiles.org/glossary.html
@stefan "Great Scientist who made all things."
Do you mean the "Great Pumpkin"??
God creates man
Man destroys god
man creates dinosaur
dinosaur eats man
woman inherit the earth.
Doctor Elly Saddler.
lol
Proof of evolution.. Mankind will all pretty much look the same in say 10,,000 years due to transportation technology and integration... Proof of Evolution we can see in vaccine / medicine resistant disease. Evolution is just a real as gravity.
How does one even argue with those who think like this? Its scary to think they are running this country,
Except that gravity is a known fact, and evolution is just a theory. Kind of like the *fact* that God is a theory...just one that pure Science has no use for because there is no way to prove or disprove God's existence.
Evolution isn't a fact, this is not new news. Until definitive Scientific proof provides evolution means to be termed a "fact", there is no reason to get your undies in a twist when other people point out their theories.
Watch the movie Idiocracy. It is a perfect example of what I am afraid mankind will look lke in the not to distant future. It's hilarious, but the underlying premise is scary as hell.
dON'T WORRY IDIOTS ALREADY RULE THE eARTH THEY ARE CALLED POLITICIANS. aTHEIST ONES ARE THE mOST STUPID. aSK cAMBODIANS! LOL
He was actually the lesser of two evils in his last race, and this time he's running unopposed.
This is what is wrong with our voting process. We have to vote for the "lesser of the two evils" BS...why I refuse to vote
Hmm...maybe next time I'll go run against him...
It frightens me how many GOP members on the Science and Tech committee have a staunchly anti-science viewpoint. And we wonder why standards for learning of science and engineering are falling in this country.
Perhaps they're secretly on the payrolls of the Chinese or the Indians, both of whom would love to be the world leader in science.
That's the idea, get on the science & tech committee to make sure that nothing goes forward...
There is nothing unscientific about a religious perspective. It allows us to keep questioning what we *assume* we already know. Remember, a theory is not a fact. Evolution and God are both theories. Until there is defining proof of one over the other (which there currently is *not*), there is no reason to be drawn into debates about it. The purpose of Science is to keep uncovering the mysteries of life.
Let us not forget, it was the Christian religion that first began the field of Science to further understand the world that they believe God created.
niteop – god is not a theory. it is mythology.
science is not a product of christianity, that is just plain stupid. science was practiced in every civilization around the world.
what a bunch of hooey.
@Night
How does the statement 'my deity did everything' allow for any questioning?
All Evolution deniers are liars. If they or their family members were in prison, and DNA could get them out, they would use it. They are too ignorant to get why DNA proves Evolution to be true.
Ok, I'll take the bait. How does DNA prove evolution (the natural increase in genetic information) exists?
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Hi Fluffy,
Even in the worm that crawls in the earth there glows a divine spark. When you slaughter a creature, you slaughter God.
Charles Darwin (1809 – 1882)
I object to being mentioned in these posts, don't take my name in vain....
Its okay my dark brother....let these minions have their way for now...we will sort them out later
To SR: footprints of men and dinosaurs have been found in the same places. Interesting, isn't it?
Stefan
*facapalm* learn what an isotope is, then post again.
Proof it happened at the same time?
radu – every one i have ever seen mentioned has been debunked as a fraud or other dinosaur prints.
Interesting that anyone would fall for that....
Actually, no, they haven't. Every such claim that's ever been made has been debunked as false.
But if you spread lies long enough, maybe they'll become true right?
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html
BTW, I'm also religious but don't believe everything in the bible is suppose to be taken literally.
"I'm also religious but don't believe everything in the bible is suppose to be taken literally."
then you aren't religious.
Stefan
I am sorry that some of my creations are slow learners, it is the small blue word at the bottom "Reply".
Well a palaeontological site and the field trip of some idiot kids in a red state don't mix.
Being "religious" means to be in search of God... Not sure if you were aware. Being religious doesn't mean you ascribe to any particular system of belief. If you said you were Christian, then I would expect you to completely adhere to the Christian Bible. If you were Islamic, I would expect you to adhere completely to the Quran.
So are you saying you can ascribe to a particular system of belief, without adhering to ALL of it's related text? Sounds pretty flimsy to me. If a god cannot do 100% of the things they claim to do, then they aren't much of a god.
Atheists the word, religious, does not mean being in search of God.
It means a. a believer in a certain religion
b. a member of a monastic community
c. a pious person
d. a dogmatic follower of a certain religion.
These definitions are as far apart from each other as can possibly be!