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My Take: Hard truths matter; I’m Mormon, and I’m voting for Obama
October 18th, 2012
07:37 AM ET

My Take: Hard truths matter; I’m Mormon, and I’m voting for Obama

Editor's Note: Joanna Brooks is a senior correspondent for ReligionDispatches.org and author of "The Book of Mormon Girl: A Memoir of an American Faith."

By Joanna Brooks, Special to CNN

(CNN)–There are two moments and two moments only that made my soul sit upright during Tuesday night’s presidential debate:

President Obama, speaking about the loss of manufacturing jobs to low-wage economies like China: “There are some jobs that are not coming back.”

Obama, speaking about four lives lost in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya: “I am the one who has to meet those coffins when they come home.”

Morbid? Not at all. I’m just a believer in the gospel of hard truths.

And as I am the mother of two school-age children, a teacher at an underfunded public university and a progressive Mormon, hard truths about the challenges our nation faces are all that makes sense to me.

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As a mother, I am acutely aware that right now, our nation invests a smaller and smaller share of its resources in our children, the generation that will assume the debts my generation and our parents’ generation have incurred.

As an educator, I have witnessed firsthand how failure to generate responsible levels of public revenue has significantly compromised generations’ worth of investment in our public schools and universities.

And as a Mormon, I grew up with a healthy sense of respect for worst-case scenarios. I was raised, after all, with a religious aversion to debt and a year’s supply of canned wheat, beans and powdered milk in the garage, as instructed by LDS Church leaders. The Mormon food storage tradition isn’t about end-times-paranoia: It’s a lesson passed down from our pioneer ancestors, who knew the importance of being prepared for difficult seasons so you can do right by your family and community.

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This nation is in a difficult season, and I listened carefully Tuesday night for a proper sense of respect for worst-case scenarios. What I heard instead were the usual rhetorical swerves.

Mitt Romney offered personal anecdotes about “binders full of women” that have nothing to do with economic security for American families. He promised allegedly revenue-neutral $5 trillion tax cuts but refused to provide solid details on how he’d balance the books. And he made throwaway references to all people being the “children of the same God” without substantial reflection on how that should translate in terms of budget and policy.

What I really wanted from the debate was more of the hard truths that Obama seemed to be on the verge of saying:

“This recession is fundamentally different than other recessions, and there are no short-term fixes.”

“Our old strategies for managing Middle Eastern conflict through military intervention or propped-up dictators don’t work. And there is no easy way forward.”

“The only thing the $3 trillion Iraq war produced for the United States was a mountain of debt and a legion of disabled Americans.”

“We need to have a serious discussion about Social Security.”

“Debts don’t get paid down without adjustments in revenues.”

These are the kind of hard truths that speak to the same part of me that took notice when Obama at his inauguration quoted the Scripture: “It is time to put away childish things” (1 Corinthians 13: 11).

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And given the challenges we face in bringing down deficits while investing sensibly in the nation’s future, here are some other Scriptures I’d like to hear:

“Turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to their fathers, lest I come to smite the earth with a curse” (Malachi 4: 6).

“Set your house in order, for you shall die” (2 Kings 20: 1)

Morbid? Not at all. But I do feel a sense of responsibility for keeping an eye on the worst-case scenarios. And a few months’ worth of rice and beans in the garage, like Mormon leaders teach me. And an ear out for the gospel of hard truths.

I have seen Obama work steadily, patiently through a difficult season. I have seen him face some hard truths and accept that there are no easy fixes. And I will vote to give him a second term.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Joanna Brooks.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 2012 Election • Barack Obama • Mitt Romney • Politics

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  1. Alex

    I live Salt Lake, I have a lot of Mormon friends that are not in support of Romney because of charisma issue and dishonesty particularly to women. Many LDS Utahns lean towards Romney though even if they do not agree with his plan. It is like a tradition but a bad culture

    October 18, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
  2. Thom Thumb

    Obama, speaking about four lives lost in the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya: “I am the one who has to meet those coffins when they come home.

    Really?

    Then why arent you asking questions like
    Why the Obama administration waited 14 days to refer to the attack in Benghazi as terrorism?
    Why wasnt security beefed up?

    As a mother, I am acutely aware that right now, our nation invests a smaller and smaller share of its resources in our children, the generation that will assume the debts my generation and our parents’ generation have incurred.

    Why are we 16 trillion dollars further in debt during the Obama Administration? If your so worried about the next generations do you want to add ANOTHER 16 trillion by re electing him?

    And as a Mormon, I grew up with a healthy sense of respect for worst-case scenarios

    We already have "worst case scenario" Lets move forward with someone who wont financially destroy this country i.e. Romney.

    This woman is either ignorant or doesnt understand what Obama is doing. Try listening to Mark Levin for a couple of hours
    he should be able to enlighten you.

    Maybe shes happy about the free condoms Obama wants to pass out to woman??

    October 18, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Alex

      Who created this mess in the first place ' the republicans' dont be fooled! It will take longer to fix the problem republican created

      October 18, 2012 at 7:58 pm |
    • thecollegeadmissionsguru

      Obama called the Bengazi attacks acts of terror on day two. FAIL.....

      October 18, 2012 at 8:02 pm |
    • BG

      Read the White House transcript. He didn't specify that this was an act of terror. Further, Susan Rice's marching orders were clear not to reference this as an act of terror rather a reaction to the video.

      Jay Carney's press conferences – same.

      Just stop with this liberal lying horseshít. Just fvcking stop already.

      October 18, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      @BG

      Read the transcript, or watch the video. He does. Sucks when you're wrong huh?

      Also, to Thom Thumb, did Romney send you that little speech? It's so full of errors it must be a repub crib sheet.

      October 18, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
    • thecollegeadmissionsguru

      BG, YOU are an angry person. Obama said, "acts of terror will not go unpunished" your comment is an argument from fallacy. It's like if I say All people who dispute Obama are idiots, but I don't say BG is an idiot, I didn't say anything about people being an idiot.

      October 18, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • BG

      ".. an act of terror" is different from ".. this act of terror."

      Obama's parsing and omissions are deceiving, so I'll have to repeat myself for the slow kids in the back of the class...

      Now what did Susan Rice say?

      and Hillary Clinton?

      and Jay Carney at every press briefing?

      ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      Just 'cause liberals "say it is," doesn't mean it is. I don't care how much Alinsky say's it works – the tactic doesn't work when people are already aware of it.

      Oh, and "guru" (do you make your applicants sit cross-legged in lotus and chant Ommmmm") nice try at the ad hom, but ditto under the 'repeti tion" chapter in Saul's manual. It doesn't work if the target is aware of it...

      October 18, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
    • sqeptiq

      "As a mother, I am acutely aware that right now, our nation invests a smaller and smaller share of its resources in our children," AND YOU WANT TO ELECT ROMNEY???? Who wants to increase our military spending by 2 trillion dollars and cut education? You are the living example of the low-information voter.

      October 18, 2012 at 9:02 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      @BG

      So when Obama calls it an act of terror that's somehow not calling it terrorism (which, by definition is acts of terror) and somehow that is more outrageous than when Romney tried to play politics WHILE THE EVENT WAS HAPPENING. The desp.icable person here is Romney for being an as.shole, not Obama for a lie he's being accused of.

      October 18, 2012 at 9:12 pm |
    • BG

      @ sqeptiq

      AND YOU WANT TO ELECT ROMNEY???? Who wants to increase our military spending by 2 trillion dollars and cut education?

      Damned right. These past years have proven nothing other than conflicts in two piddly countries have stretched our military dangerously thin. The only options in case of any major tactical threat would be reduced to either lumping all our resources into one theater of operation, or to use strategic weapons. Which, as a mother, do you prefer?

      Weapons development creates jobs. Good jobs. Martin-Marietta, GE jobs. Weapons construction creates jobs. Would you, as a mother, prefer that we use a cruise missiles and drones, or "boots on the ground" for defense against our enemies?

      Reduce the budget for education? Absolutely. For kids (and their parents who encourage them) who want a great education, it's there. For kids who'd rather gang-bang, we should save our money. They'll need it later when they have four or five kids by two or three different parents and no one's working, or for later, when the state needs $80K a year to keep each of them in prison.

      What about college? You take out a loan like your parents did, and their parents before them. Is it more expensive? Sure, but you'll have to go to the colleges and ask them why. Liberal colleges run by states with expansive and expensive unions affecting every aspect of their operations. Go ask the state universities why the costs go up 10% every year. Go ask the private universities with their endowment programs why their costs are accelerating. Make sure you ask the liberal college professors what they think. And make sure you ask the college why they have expensive programs in disciplines where no or few jobs are going to be available. Health care programs have been selective for years. MD's, Physical Therapists, Nurses – the classes are only so large, and admission are limited.

      @ CC

      "... Romney tried to play politics WHILE THE EVENT WAS HAPPENING. The desp.icable person here is Romney for being an as.shole, not Obama for a lie he's being accused of."

      Romney's failure was in not applying a full-court press on Obama, including his minions Rice, Clinton, and Carney. Obama's "terrorism" Rose Garden comment was essentially a hedged bet, as he spoke out of both sides of his mouth essentially soft-pedaling the responsibility of Islamists while allowing his minions to blame the video. These people work for Barry. One day – ONE DAY- before the 2nd debate, Clinton "accepts responsibility." What a fvcking dog & pony show – like Barry wouldn't disallow her actions and instead publicly accept full responsibility himself. It was a setup contrived expressly for the debate.

      But, hey, it was tough for Romney to stay on the offensive when the debate moderator is defending his adversary....

      October 18, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      @BG

      You're a nutter. Seriously, you're angry because Obama called this act an act of terror and you wanted him to do what exactly? Fly in and start shooting at Libyans? It's easy to play the blame game after the fact but I don't see you getting all hot and bothered when it was Bush facing his failure to stop 9/11. What's more, it's obnoxious to think Romney dropped the ball hours after the attack because he didn't press hard enough. This act was violence per.petr.ated by Al Qaeda and yet you, Romney and other republicans are using it for a political attack that doesn't even make sense. Get real BG, you're just like the rest of the repubs who think it's appropriate to use a tragedy for your gain and have the gall to accuse everyone else of doing so when they defend themselves from ridic.ulous as.sertions.

      October 18, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      PS

      Whine some more about how Candy fact checked Romney in the middle of the debate. Fox is getting pretty good at it too. It's hilarious that so many GOPer's are upset that Romney got called out for lying and somehow that makes candy unbias. I bet you'd be singing a different tune if Obama was the one who lied and got called out for it.

      October 18, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • BG

      "... you wanted him to do what exactly?"
      Coordinate his administration so there's no conflicting statements.

      " Fly in and start shooting at Libyans? "
      Been there – done that, but they shot the wrong Libyans.

      "... but I don't see you getting all hot and bothered when it was Bush facing his failure to stop 9/11."
      You weren't there to see me when it happened.

      " What's more, it's obnoxious to think Romney dropped the ball hours after the attack because he didn't press hard enough. This act was violence per.petr.ated by Al Qaeda and yet you, Romney and other republicans are using it for a political attack that doesn't even make sense. "

      But didn't you just suggest that I didn't react strongly enough when Bush failed to prevent 9/11?

      "... you're just like the rest of the repubs who think it's appropriate to use a tragedy for your gain..."
      Because it shouldn't have been a tragedy. The real tragedy, as you suggested with Bush and 9/11, was that it happened at all. Shouldn't Bush have been called on that? Then why not Obama?

      PS

      "...Candy fact checked Romney in the middle of the debate."
      Not her job. If it was, then she's guilty of selectivity in which "facts" she's checking and failed miserably.

      "I bet you'd be singing a different tune if Obama was the one who lied and got called out for it."
      Don't know. I haven't seen that happen in three debates with three liberal moderators. It would be interesting, though, wouldn't it? We'll never know.

      October 18, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
    • Concerned Citizen

      First, we never went into libya or shot any libyans, the most we did was coordinate with the UN to declare a no fly zone and let it play out.

      Second, what I'm saying about Bush is that you didn't have dems jumping all over Bush hours after it happened and try to place the blame of 9/11 at his feet. We came together as Americans, we grieved and we moved forward. People are angry about how Bush may have handled it but no one was trying to use 9/11 to their political advantage.

      Trying to say we should call out either presidents and get angry that it happened at all is pointless and absurd. That's like yelling at a person for spilling milk instead of cleaning it up and talking about how to stop spilling the milk next time. It's a tactic used by the repubs in order to try and lay something at Obama's feet that wasn't his fault.

      As for the moderators job, They are there to moderate in every way. If either candidate was saying bald face lies it's important for someone to call them out, instead of allowing it to devolve into a "i said that" "no you didn't" back and forth, Candy stopped Romney. And the other moderators have been equally as unbias and objective, asking journalistic questions, its not anyones fault except Romney and Ryan when asked to actually back up their idiotic claims, are unable to do so.

      October 18, 2012 at 11:08 pm |
    • thecollegeadmissionsguru

      BG has an excuse, I mean a stance, on EVERYTHING Romney. Here it is... IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT, and if not his fault, then it was the LIBERAL MEDIA'S FAULT!

      October 18, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • BG

      @ CC

      "First, we never went into libya or shot any libyans, the most we did was coordinate with the UN to declare a no fly zone and let it play out."
      Operation Odyssey Dawn, US Commanded with Brits, shot over 100 Tomahawks.

      "Second, what I'm saying about Bush is that you didn't have dems jumping all over Bush hours after it happened and try to place the blame of 9/11 at his feet."
      Nobody knew who did it until the security briefings from six weeks previous were released. Then people started jumping.

      "Trying to say we should call out either presidents and get angry that it happened at all is pointless and absurd."
      Well, you hit me over the head with Bush...

      "As for the moderators job, They are there to moderate in every way. If either candidate was saying bald face lies it's important for someone to call them out, instead of allowing it to devolve into a "i said that" "no you didn't" back and forth..."
      No, the lies are for the public to discern. If the moderator gets in the middle, they're no longer moderating. They're judging.

      http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/political-potpourri/2012/oct/18/debate-moderators-may-be-affecting-election/

      @ thecollegeadmissionsguru

      BG has an excuse, I mean a stance, on EVERYTHING Romney. Here it is... IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT, and if not his fault, then it was the LIBERAL MEDIA'S FAULT!

      Well, it's certainly not Romney's or Fox's fault, so, by process of elimination...

      October 19, 2012 at 12:33 am |
    • Concerned Citizen

      @BG

      1. No boots touched the ground, it was also UN led mission.

      2. Right, people were pis.sed after learning about it, no one however started making outrageous statements HOURS AFTER 9/11,

      3. Give me a break, who the heck looks at the fact checkers after the debate is said and done? Is it fair for anyone to lie during debates and get fact checked afterwards and no one would give a sh.it? Is it really a bad thing for people to get called out lying during the debate? It's a little ridiculous that you're angry that Romney should have been fact checked afterwards because it feels like the moderator was bias.

      Stop being a whiny baby.

      October 19, 2012 at 12:42 am |
    • BG

      @ CC

      Don't forget about the Predators...

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/22/us-libya-nato-idUSTRE73L2PC20110422

      October 19, 2012 at 12:43 am |
    • BG

      2. Right, people were pis.sed after learning about it, no one however started making outrageous statements HOURS AFTER 9/11,

      No one -knew- hours after 9/11 !.

      3. Give me a break, who the heck looks at the fact checkers after the debate is said and done? Is it fair for anyone to lie during debates and get fact checked afterwards and no one would give a sh.it? Is it really a bad thing for people to get called out lying during the debate? It's a little ridiculous that you're angry that Romney should have been fact checked afterwards because it feels like the moderator was bias.

      No Break. Candy overstepped.

      October 19, 2012 at 12:45 am |
    • Concerned Citizen

      @BG

      1. Again, no boots hit the ground and all missions were led by the UN. That's not strictly Obama, but the rest of the world as well.

      2. No one knew after 9/11, and yet someone like Romney, with 0 intel knew more than the president hours after Benghazi? It's still a ridiculous as.sertion no matter how you slice it. On the heels of American deaths Romney attempted to play politics and is still attempting to do so over on top of the 4 slain men.

      I'm still confused how Candy overstepped. Because she called Romney out for being wrong? That's not being bias, why can no one understand this?

      October 19, 2012 at 1:07 am |
    • BG

      "1. Again, no boots hit the ground and all missions were led by the UN. That's not strictly Obama, but the rest of the world as well."

      Fly & shoot. No one said "troops." That's a different word entirely. See? Fly. Shoot. Troops. Now, which word didn't I say?

      "2. No one knew after 9/11, and yet someone like Romney... blah, blah, yadda."

      It's sad that you're offended. I don't think you should vote for Romney because you're so upset.

      "I'm still confused..."

      Yes, I know. It's that obvious. (and I usually have difficulty picking stuff like that up...)

      October 19, 2012 at 1:41 am |
    • BG

      Oh, and I know that you meant NATO when you said the UN, but that's ok. The UN is the sneaky one trying to get Obama to take away all the legal guns held by Americans and void the 2nd Amendment. Or is that NATO? I'll let you research it. Watch out – It gets confusing.

      October 19, 2012 at 1:46 am |
    • Concerned Citizen

      @BG

      Look, the whole point of the "shooting" going on here is that it wasn't strictly Obama nor did troops touch the ground. You think they were shooting at the wrong libyans, yet if they tried to use tomahawks on the rebels, we could still have Gaddafi in power..... so who was exactly the wrong people?

      Second, I'm not voting for Romney because he's a bad candidate, with bad ideas, he's a flip flopper who is more interested in kowtowing to the republican party, the neo-cons and the NRA rather than do whats right. Not only are those the reasons why I wouldn't vote for Romney but Obama has done a lot, he's killed Osama, he passed a healthcare law, he ended DADT and came out in support of gay marriage. He supports green energy and has done everything in his power to start shifting our country towards self-sufficient renewable energy. Good enough for ya? Why are you voting for Romney? because Obama is a po.opy head?

      i also like how you completely avoided answering the question on how Candy overstepped, intending to attack me instead of face the ridiculous statements you keep making. Nice try, but no cigar.

      October 19, 2012 at 2:34 am |
    • Concerned Citizen

      Also,

      Your conspiracy theory on the UN is priceless. That's almost as good as Dan Maes who thought the UN was trying to use Obama to install bike shares throughout the country which would lead to a UN take over of America. That's berserk but yours is up there as well.

      October 19, 2012 at 2:38 am |
    • BG

      @BG

      "so who was exactly the wrong people?"
      I think the only one that could say for certain is Chris Stevens. But I'm sure he knew who they are. You have to ask yourself how and why the various ME dictators kept a lid on Islamism for the last 40 years. American atheists need to recognize the dissonance between Islamic sha'ria being plied under the guise of democracy, and why now was the lid lifted on Pandora's box? After 40 years.

      Second, I'm not voting for Romney because he's a bad candidate, with bad ideas, he's a flip flopper who is more interested in kowtowing to the republican party, the neo-cons and the NRA rather than do whats right. Not only are those the reasons why I wouldn't vote for Romney but Obama has done a lot, he's killed Osama, he passed a healthcare law, he ended DADT and came out in support of gay marriage. He supports green energy and has done everything in his power to start shifting our country towards self-sufficient renewable energy. Good enough for ya?"

      No on all counts – for me. But if it's good enough for you, that's all that matters. I trust you're grown up enough to make knowledgeable decisions based on objective information, and not propaganda. If you feel you've made an informed decision based upon the best information available, then good for you. Vote your convictions.

      If your 'information' has been provided exclusively by liberal MSM "news" sources, I can only advise you to seek alternative sources, Drudge, Breitbart, Atlantic, etc. ... Are they conservative sources? Sure. Will they give you a balanced perspective? Maybe, but probably not. Here's the rule of thumb I've always used in everything from political issues, voting, and charitable giving to corporate positioning & acquisitions.

      If I want to be prepared for my competi tor's argument, I have to know their position. I have to understand the adversarial view. If I'm only aware of -my- view, I'm hanging out in the wind.

      If you're so certain of all your Romney issues as you've delineated, you need to ask yourself why, and how you got your information. If it's all through liberal sources, you might want to be more than a bit leery of being sold a blank bill of goods. If you're comfortable with the "progressive/leftist agenda," then that's your train. Hop on it. Just be damn certain of where it's really going.

      Good luck. The truth is out there (sorry Scully) and it's not grounded in polarized party politics.

      And that UN gun grab thing you're dismissing? it's true. Check it out. 'course if you don't think anyone should have guns, then just walk on by, but consider how that's working out in the gun grabbed countries. Not too well.

      "i also like how you completely avoided answering the question on how Candy overstepped, intending to attack me instead of face the ridiculous statements you keep making. Nice try, but no cigar."

      I lead you by the hand, give you references and a pat on the ass. You still "don't understand." So you're either ignorant (and I've got nothing to work with there...) or your being a good little libby who's just fanning the fire. Either way, class is over, and you've failed on this one. Class dismissed.

      Also,

      Your conspiracy theory on the UN is priceless. That's almost as good as Dan Maes who thought the UN was trying to use Obama to install bike shares throughout the country which would lead to a UN take over of America. That's berserk but yours is up there as well.

      October 19, 2012 at 3:08 am |
    • BG

      Well, obviously that's for you, @ CC. Forgive the cut/paste errors.

      October 19, 2012 at 3:09 am |
    • Concerned Citizen

      @BG

      I make my decision based on what the candidates say, not what news networks tell me. It's interesting to read drudge and listen to stuff on MSNBC but when it comes down to it, I vote based on who I think will be the better leader in both fiscal and social policies. So far all you've told me is that I should vote my convictions, which I do, but you have failed to make even a decent case for Romney other than trying to lay a lot of issues at Obama's feet and pretend like it was his fault.

      As for the whole Libya situation. Democracy will help, I don't know, nor does anyone, how much and if it will last. Keep in mind that if you truly support democracy, then you have to understand the pitfalls that other democracies aren't going to elect the people, pass the laws and act the way America wants. All we know is that democracies generally work better together internationally and so far is the least imperfect system of government. There's no magic bullet nor do all democracies work, but it's horrendous to suggest that ME dictators were on to something when all they really did was rule by blood and terror. That is not a better option than a democracy no matter how you slice it.

      Lastly, your little UN gun shtick, Obama has made zero moves against the second amendment, or gun legislation or trying to limit the NRA. I'm actually pretty annoyed by it because we need gun legislation in this country, not to say we need to disarm everyone, because to a certain degree I believe everyone should have the right to own a gun and protect themselves if necessary, but assault rifles have no business being on the streets and for regular citizens to get a hold of them. The UN would like to void the second amendment because it helps make the most powerful country in the world less of a wild card in their book, but Obama has done nothing on it and thats all that matters, the UN does not govern internal affairs of any country on any matter and it's going to stay that way.

      Now kiddo, it's time for bed, I urge you though to actually get the correct news instead of the filth you keep spewing, it's warping your head and getting you to vote for a man who has no vision for America other than the top 2% of folks and there's a very good chance that you aren't a part of that 2%.

      October 19, 2012 at 3:51 am |
    • BG

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Cw-UdQNtw&feature=player_detailpage

      October 19, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
  3. mlblogsyankeeblogspot

    WOW i can finally rest knowing that one Mormon on the plant is voting for Owebama, and one Black man is voting for Romney,and the only reason hes black is because his birth mark covers his face.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
  4. skeptikel

    Mormonism is a relatively young religion leaning towards fundamentalism. Like most fundamentalists, Mormons are even more inclined than other congregations to seek the direction and approval of church authority. And if the influence of Massachusetts politics on the one hand and the Tea Party on the other is any indication of Romney's chameleon changeability, we are right to be interested in the potential for Romney's mormonism to influence his judgement and decisions.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/10/mormon-politicians-lds-church-romney#pluck-comments

    October 18, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Dave N.

      Any honest question about a candidate and their ability to govern is a fair question, but honestly, do you know many Mormons? While it's true that Mormons have a leader over the whole church, he certainly doesn't guide a member's every step. Far from it. As members of the church, we believe that God said the following:

      "For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward."

      Translation: Go figure it out yourself. THAT'S who Mormons really are.

      October 18, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
  5. Thomas O'Leary

    Article was breath of fresh air. So lucid.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
  6. stonedwhitetrash

    Oh Sweet Jesus and his virgin mother!!!!

    October 18, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
  7. Mormon America

    Hear ye. We officially support the right for men to subjugate women and have many wives each. Women are our child factories. Hurray for our magic underwear. The righteous shall join our overlords on planet Kolob and we shall soil underwear together magically at last.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
    • Dave N.

      You're a bigot and an idiot. Go back to your cave.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • mlblogsyankeeblogspot

      This guy puts the B in Bigot. You want to find the biproduct of inbreading look no further then this guy. Who gives a rats behind if molly here is voting for Owebama.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:51 pm |
    • Pam N.

      Dave N. really puts the small d in little limp dick. What a bigot.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Whatthewhat?

      Uh right, Pam D. you must be either dyslexic or stupid.

      October 18, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
    • Verifyd

      What a bigoted piece of trash. Also, Pam is a troll.

      October 18, 2012 at 8:29 pm |
  8. Mormon America

    Here ye. We officially support the right for men to subjugate women and have many wives each. Women are our child factories. Hurray for our magic underwear. The righteous shall join our overlords on planet Kolob and we shall soil underwear together magically at last.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
  9. Dave N.

    "The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Joanna Brooks."

    Darn right.

    Seriously, as a fellow Mormon, I respect her well thought out arguments, but I think she's dead wrong. I think that it's Romney who is willing to make the tough decisions and not Obama. Well written by an obviously intelligent person, but misguided in my opinion. I don't think someone who is willing to look at the hard truth and make the tough decisions would just keep borrowing money from the Chinese. But, again, I respect her point of view, and the courage it must take to put something out there that most of your fellow church members think is crazy.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:42 pm |
    • some chick

      Speak for your self , Dave.
      I am a fellow Church member and my Opinion matches perfectly with the author.
      We all have our own free agency to believe what we want to. The era of intolorance and
      hate is getting old. Everyone has their own opinion and right to it. I appreciate our differences and
      always welcome those who are different or think different than I do. I teach this to my children. Because of
      our diferences, life is more interesting. Keep an open mind, you will enjoy life more.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Pam N.

      Dave, stop being such a sexist bigot. And take the garbage out.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
    • chitownlady

      Please..TAKE YOUR MORMON RELIGION AND SHOVE IT We all for the most part believe in GOD! Why make this about religion?
      What makes his ideas for life right for us all! He does NOT speak for me and NEVER WILL! Yeah, l about his stupid religion. He will set the so called women's movement back 50 years. haven't we been but through enough already? Women are NO better then men! Yeah, like I really believe she raised her KIDS! They are called nannies. This is NOT about who;s religion is better. WAKE UP people! Please do not make the wrong choice come election day! This clown knows NOTHING! If you really want to continue babies having babies and living on welfare, god almighty please vote for this fool and his idiot ideas of what a women is really for. Mormo....PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE....

      October 18, 2012 at 8:04 pm |
  10. Lynn

    Johnny, I, for one, very much care what this lady has to say! She's expressing a perspective that is thoughtful and sincere. You're rude comment of 'who cares' about her thoughts, as well as your bashing of the President with hackneyed comments on race, speaks to how polarized and intolerant we've become as a society. Aside from the fact that as a Christian (Methodist), I heartily agree with her, as an American, I think discourse can be civil.... since I think we have a lot to learn from each other.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
  11. Mittens

    I have so much money that you will vote for me. Money money money. Health care who cares when you have money money money. I love money money money. By being Mormon I can seem squeaky clean while loving money money money.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
  12. UtahProf

    Too bad some of the key tenets of the Mormon faith (teachings on self-sufficiency and keeping the government out of peoples lives) didn't take root ... come to think of it, are you sure you are Mormon?

    October 18, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • Dave N.

      That's not fair. I don't agree with her, but it's you who comes off as looking like an idiot when you say something like that. Mormonism is all about agency, and hers is based on thoughtful ideas.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
    • Kath

      It amazes me that some other tenants of most religions seem to be missing: compassion, respect, honesty.
      I have yet to hear a Mormon elder or a Catholic bishop condemn their actions.
      Between Lyin Ryan and Mitt the Flip-flopper, I have no idea what the party seems to stand for except The Rich.
      I am a registered Republican; they lost me with allegiance to Norquist and to their determination to bring Obama down regardless of the impact to our country.

      October 19, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  13. Muha Hahlli

    I don't see the reason why people are talking about his religion. I thought we are to respect each individual and their freedom to worship who they want. The Obama supporters are doing the oppesite of what they previously stood for. Very very bad. These last several months have made me wonder about my vote for sure. I am embarassed for the democratic party that I used to be proud to represent. Also I read the Obama health plan and it is actually scary, cannot believe what I was reading. Another very bad. I am for Romney now for sure.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • UtahProf

      Well, a lot of Obama's supporters are (apparently) atheist ... a Godless platform is a doomed platform ... just my opinion.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • Giants240

      Never let the fire of a few, influence your opinion about the many. When you read the health care bill , be very careful which version you are reading.

      Lastly, you never gave details why you are voting for Romney?

      October 18, 2012 at 7:54 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Utah Prof is trying to start another game of "Name that Logical Fallacy" I think.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
  14. Robert

    Joanna Brooks knows nothing. I'm amazed that CNN put her column on line, but then, I shouldn't be surprised by any stupid and foolish thing that CNN does.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • Mormon America

      Joanna Brooks does not represent Mormons let alone the LDS church which is strictly neutral. I cannot for the life of me figure out who gave JB a voice when she gravely misrepresents Mormons. This has nothing to do with Obama/Romney. It has everything to do with her.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • Sarah

      Ad hominem much? Try supporting your attack statements or just stop being such a flabby shabby old azzhole, Robert.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • Mormon America

      We officially support the right for men to subjugate women and have many wives each. Women are our child factories. Hurray for our magic underwear. The righteous shall join our overlords on planet Kolob and we shall soil underwear together magically at last.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
  15. Byron

    Binders of Women, maybe you need to go back and listen to what he really said, maybe you'll see what he did for women in the work field while he was Governor.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Unless and until Romney supports the right of women to choose, he's a no-go.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • Giants240

      Isolated and ramdom hirings do not inpress me.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
  16. CW

    Opinion: NOT The Mormon Case for Obama... just Joanna's thoughts.

    Joanna seems to be the type that recognizes the Mormon belief that trials and hardships make you stronger. Seems she feels the Trials and Hardships Obama's policies have and will continue to cause us will make us all stronger. Very thoughtful of her but #1 – She is not a spokesperson for the religion and #2 Lets find our U.S. strength and fix it now rather than accept it as our unchangeable situation.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:31 pm |
    • Jill

      CW, don't obfuscate the primary prenuptials with rasberries. Grow the new koan and perspire in tangerines.

      Never pass up an opportunity to watch an elephant paint Mozart.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Goshers, CW!! What an AWESOME post! @@

      Why aren't YOU running for President???

      October 18, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
  17. BornMormon

    I very much appreciate her candor and courage. I guarantee that she will be permanently ostracized by the Church Hierarchy now! They don't forget!

    October 18, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • Bob Jones

      Not true – a former member of the first presidency (James E. Faust) was a civil rights attorney and advocate in the 1960s and staunch democrat. Don't forget Harry Reid. Neither were or have been ostracized by the Churc Hierarchy. Mormons care more about your faith in Jesus Christ than your faith in a political party.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
  18. mjbrin

    since Romney has so much money himself and all his children are doing fine. And his wife's medical bills will easily be paid by him.....if he gets elected do you think he will offer to refuse the salary and perks? I mean wouldn't that be a good charitable contribution for him to use say for all the veterans?

    October 18, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
  19. Johnny O Brien

    Who really cares what this lady has to say, How many Morman women will vote for Romney plus ;how many million Christains will vote for Romney. Every one is just so tired of Obama. His race baiting and bigotry, his lies, he is a fraud and ;most know it with a half of brain. CNN is stooping to the bottom of the barrel to help this loser in the white house. He has been nothing more than an affimative action president. Hell he is a commie, and muslim, now I know my post will be deleted. Telling the truth is something the Obama regime cannot tolerate.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Again, two possibilities :
      1. purposely trolling.
      2. delusional idiocy.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:19 pm |
    • TruthPrevails :-)

      John Boy, elaborate with actual facts. Are you simply too clueless to comprehend that the republitards have blocked everything Obama has tried to do? What lies has Obama told? No president can ever be expected to uphold every promise made. He saved the country from slipping in to a depression that the republitards had the country headed for. He saved the auto industry. He wants equality for all...same taxes across the board; same rights across the board.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
    • BG

      3. Frustration in the guise of common sense.

      Post away, Johnny O'Brien. Post away.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
    • BG

      @ TruthP

      http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/10/the-democratic-congresss-2008-budget-a-tax-and-spending-spree

      Yep. Democratic congressional majority, and the bast ards still weren't any help at all, were they...

      😆

      October 18, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • Joe

      Truth, Unfortunately, our "bailout" of GM is actually backfiring badly. GM's stock has dropped since then from $36 to about $10. We've lost about $16 billion of our stock investment, and GM is bleeding so badly they might be calling for another bailout by the next term. The question is, do you support the guy who bought us a failing auto company? Or the guy who recognizes bad business practice doesn't end if you give them more money.
      Case in point: The 2013 Hybrid Chevy Malibu has less MPG rating than the non-hybrid Nissan Altima.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:32 pm |
    • shelly lazoff

      I may be mistaken but you don't sound like a Mormon

      October 18, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • BG

      The back doors on my 2006 Malibu LS pop open by themselves when it gets reaallly cold outside. Seriously. They do. They just fly open all on their own. There's a TSB (Technical Services Bulletin) that Chevy put out. No recall though, so your teenager can suddenly be ejected out the back door when it's 12 degrees outside..

      Depending on the teenager, that might not necessarily be a bad thing.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
    • Nick D

      Plain and simple, your an idiot

      October 18, 2012 at 7:41 pm |
    • Really?

      I bet you think he was born in Kenya, his birth announcement in Honolulu papers was planted just in case he wanted to run for president some 40 years later, and his birth certificate is a forgery, 9/11 was an inside job by the CIA, the world will come to an end in December, he is the anti-Christ, he hates Israel, he is a "commie", he is a Marxist, he is a Socialist, he is a Democrat, he worships the devil, he is secretly gay, he is secretly having an affair with Condoleza Rice, etc, etc. etc. Did I miss any epitaphs? Wake up; he was elected by a majority of the people in this republic as President. Get over it.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:44 pm |
    • Really?

      P.S. I bet you miss the McCarthy era when calling someone a "commie" was a sport.....

      October 18, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
    • Giants240

      Johnny Boy, please give details why Obama is what you say he is. DEtails, Details.

      Oh, my the way I have a 15 yr. old son, if Mittens gets us in another war will you or your sons fight. O r like Mitetns have all the Romneys stay home .

      October 18, 2012 at 8:00 pm |
    • BG

      McCarthy weeded out a bunch of Communists and Communist sympathizers. It really pis sed-off Hollywood.

      Yep, that'd be the same Hollywood that has a big pedophilia problem today.

      Identi ty has been a tough issue for Hollywood these last 50 years. They don't really know who they are any more....

      ... all they know is they have a lot of money.

      October 18, 2012 at 8:17 pm |
    • BG

      @ Really?

      I didn't hear about Condi. You have a source on that? I always thought Barry was a bathhouse kind of guy...

      October 18, 2012 at 8:20 pm |
  20. Marcked

    And why no discussion about Obama's faith: Black Libertarian Theology. This is a Marxist twist on Christianity that was birthed out of Central America. His church was lead by a wack-a-doodle who was Obamas spiritual mentor for 26 yrs. This is just a reminder as well as reporting the news–unlike the selective truths brought to you by CNN. I think it best to leave the faith aspect out of this race given the presidents own philosophy on society and life.

    October 18, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • ;p;

      Feel free to write and submit an article, since you've gone out of your way to be creepy enough to research it.

      October 18, 2012 at 7:23 pm |
    • denisemonty

      He didn't research much. Otherwise, he'd know it's "LIBERATION Theology." And you may get extra credit if you can define what Marxism is... WITHOUT looking at Wikipedia. Go ahead, i'll wait...

      October 18, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
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