In Obama’s first term, an evolving Christian faith and a more evangelical style
President Obama speaking from the pulpit of a Washington church in 2010.
October 27th, 2012
10:00 PM ET

In Obama’s first term, an evolving Christian faith and a more evangelical style

Editor's note: This is the last in a series about the faith lives of the presidential candidates, which includes a profile of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Washington (CNN) – President Obama’s prayers for a strong first debate may not have been answered, but that doesn’t mean the prayers weren’t happening.

Before he stepped onto a Colorado stage earlier this month to face off with Mitt Romney for the first time, Obama joined a conference call with a small circle of Christian ministers.

“The focus of that prayer was, ‘Oh, Lord, you know precisely what the president needs to say,'” says Kirbyjon Caldwell, a Methodist megachurch pastor from Texas who helped lead the call. “'You know what this country needs during the next four years.’”

“'And so I would pray that your primary will and words that you want the president to say will fall from his lips,'” Caldwell goes on, recalling his prayer.

Obama, for his part, was mostly silent.

“There’s a profound and genuine humility in the presence of Christ himself,” Caldwell says, describing the president on such calls. “I think he recognizes it as a holy moment.”

It was the second time Caldwell and Obama had prayed by phone in as many months. The two had connected in August on a prayer call Obama has hosted on his birthday every year since coming to the White House.

Welcome to the intense, out-of-the-box and widely misunderstood religious life of President Barack Obama.

Though he famously left his controversial pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the year he was elected to the presidency, a handful of spiritual advisers close to Obama say that his time in office has significantly deepened his faith.

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Stephen Mansfield, a former Christian pastor who wrote the book “The Faith of Barack Obama,” goes so far to say that Obama has experienced a spiritual transformation.

“I think we do have at heart a new man, so to speak,” says Mansfield, who worked closely with the White House and with some Obama religious advisers on his book. “He has undergone a pretty significant personal religious change in his first term.”

Methodist minister Kibyjon Caldwell, right, has grown close to President Obama after serving as a spiritual counselor to President George W. Bush. Here, Caldwell and Bush share a stage in 2003.

Obama’s faith advisers say Mansfield goes a step too far, though they acknowledge that when it comes to his faith, Obama has changed.

“There is a deepening development in his relationship with God,” says Joel Hunter, a Florida-based pastor who has been in touch with Obama nearly every week since he took office. “He chooses to stay faithful in daily habits of study and prayer and consistent times of interchange with spiritual leaders.”

“I am not sure he did that before he came to the presidency.”

Whether or not Obama has been spiritually “reborn” in the evangelical sense, his spiritual counselors say the president’s faith has helped shape his first term in ways that haven’t been appreciated by voters or the news media.

And they say the presidency is bringing Obama to a new place in his faith - building on a system of belief and practice that helped bring him to the White House in the first place.

Talking like Billy Graham

These days, when the president talks about his faith, he sounds like a born-again Christian.

Addressing the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington this year, Obama recalled meeting the nation’s most iconic evangelical Christian, Billy Graham, and described his struggle to find the right words as he prayed aloud with the aging evangelist.

“Like that verse in Romans, the Holy Spirit interceded when I didn’t know quite what to say,” Obama told the gathering, invoking the New Testament.

It was hardly the only part of the speech where Obama was speaking “Christianese” – employing a lexicon familiar to evangelical Christians, who put a premium on quoting Scripture and communing directly with the Holy Spirit.

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At the same breakfast, Obama spoke of spending time every morning in “Scripture and devotion” and dropped the names of “friends like Joel Hunter or T.D. Jakes,” both well-known pastors of evangelical megachurches.

“He was talking like Billy Graham” at the breakfast, says Mansfield, who also wrote an admiring spiritual biography of former President George W. Bush.

Even in the more secular setting of the Democratic National Convention, Obama hinted at an intense White House prayer life, along with his need for God’s grace.

Some say President Obama sounds like an evangelical when he speaks about his religion, echoing the famous evangelist Billy Graham. The two men met at Graham's mountaintop home in North Carolina home in 2010.

“While I'm proud of what we've achieved together, I'm far more mindful of my own failings,” Obama said in his acceptance speech, “knowing exactly what Lincoln meant when he said, ‘I have been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction that I had no place else to go.’"

Such pious talk marks a departure from how the president discussed his faith life before his White House years.

Back then, Obama cited his religion more as a basis for social action than for spiritual sustenance. He would temper declarations of belief with affirmations of doubt.

Asked in a 2004 interview whether he prayed often, Obama, then a candidate for U.S. Senate in Illinois, responded: “Uh, yeah, I guess I do.”

In a 2007 interview with the Chicago Sun-Times, Obama voiced skepticism about Scripture.

“There are aspects of the Christian tradition that I’m comfortable with and aspects that I’m not,” he said. “There are passages of the Bible that make perfect sense to me and others that I go ‘Ya know, I’m not sure about that.’”

These days, Obama forgoes such equivocations in favor of a full-throated Christianity.

To Mansfield, the evolution of Obama’s comments on religion bespeak a born-again experience, prompted largely by the president’s break with Wright and his arrival into a circle of spiritual counselors that includes many evangelicals.

The White House declined requests to speak to Obama.

But Hunter, the president’s closest spiritual counselor, says Obama has technically been a born-again Christian for more than 25 years, since accepting Jesus at Wright’s Chicago church in the 1980s.

But it's in the last four years that the president has become more evangelical in his habits.

He now begins each morning reading Christian devotionals on his Blackberry.

And then there’s the circle of pastors Obama has begun praying with before big events like the first presidential debate.

A circle of evangelicals

After landing in Washington following his 2008 election, Obama shopped around for a new church. But he wound up making his spiritual home instead among a circle of far-flung pastors that includes Hunter, Jakes and Caldwell, the minister from Texas.

Conference calls with the group started while Obama was still a presidential candidate, including on the night of his 2008 victory. The president-elect spoke by phone with Hunter and other Christian ministers, rejoicing in victory but also grieving the death of his grandmother, who helped raise him, just a few days earlier.

The migration from Wright – who almost brought down Obama’s campaign with videos that showed him sermonizing about “God damn America” and “the U.S. of KKK A” – to this new group, says Mansfield, has been underappreciated.

“[Obama] went into the Oval Office … questioning the only pastor he’d ever had,” Mansfield says. “Wright left him humiliated.”

“And there were deeper questions about the theology that [Obama] had received,” Mansfield continues. “Some part of Wright’s religious orientation had failed.”

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Where Wright is a liberal mainline Protestant, emphasizing liberation and social action, Obama’s new circle of pastors includes theologically conservative evangelicals like Hunter and Jakes, who stress God’s grace and personal transformation.

Mansfield notes that the chaplain who has presided for the last few years at Camp David, where Obama spends many Sundays, is also an evangelical.

Some of Obama’s spiritual counselors credit Joshua DuBois, executive director of the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, with leading Obama to a more evangelical-flavored Christianity. Caldwell calls him the president’s personal pastor.

A former associate pastor at a Pentecostal church in Boston, DuBois is the one responsible for sending Obama Scriptures and scriptural meditations five days a week; Hunter does it on the other two days.

The evangelical pastor Joel Hunter, center, and White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships Executive Director Joshua DuBois, right, are the President’s closest religious counselors. Here they are in February.

DuBois convenes a daily 8:15 a.m. conference call with pastors to pray for the country and the president, who is not on the call. (Lately, those calls have also included prayers for Mitt Romney.)

And it’s DuBois who organized the president’s circle of spiritual advisers. After graduate school at Princeton, DuBois talked his way onto Obama’s staff at the U.S. Senate, repeatedly driving to Washington to make his case after job applications were rejected.

When Obama launched his presidential campaign a few years later, DuBois was plucked as its faith outreach director.

The 30-year-old White House aide plays down his influence on his boss.

“He has always been on a Christian journey,” DuBois says of Obama, “and the challenges of the office, of being leader of the free world, provides a deepening and strengthening of faith, and that’s what you see with the president.”

“I remember working with him around the Scripture he would use at the memorial service for the miners in West Virginia,” DuBois says, referring to the 2010 tragedy that left 29 dead. “These are obviously moments when one's faith is strengthened.”

The unparalleled trials of the Oval Office have been known to deepen the religiosity of presidents ranging from Abraham Lincoln to Ronald Reagan.

Hunter says the same thing has happened to this president: “His faith has been growing as the challenges of the presidency have become more naturally the main part of his own everyday life.”

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One of Hunter’s first Oval Office encounters with Obama came shortly after the president took office, at a time when the economy was shedding 750,000 jobs a month.

“He acknowledged at that meeting what many may know but few remember: that by the time issues get to the president, there are no simple or clear answers or they would have been solved by others,” Hunter says. “So we prayed.”

A few months later, Hunter was in the Oval Office again, noticing that “the unremitting heaviness of the office was setting in.”

“I saw something that has been consistent ever since: He cannot just pray for himself and his family,” Hunter says by e-mail. “At least I have never seen it. His faith, his heart, always includes those who are being left out through no fault of their own.”

Despite the changes they’ve seen in Obama, both Hunter and DuBois are uncomfortable with the word “transformation” when it comes to Obama’s White House faith life.

“The president doesn’t deal in labels,” says DuBois. “He knows God’s grace is sufficient for him and beyond that doesn’t get into labels, evangelical or mainline. He’s a proud Christian.”

Loving God by loving your neighbor

When the Rev. Sharon Watkins and a group of fellow Protestant ministers sat down with Obama at the White House a couple years into the president’s term, she knew the pastors would get wonky about religion.

“You get a bunch of ministers in the room and we’re all church geeks – it’s theological,” says Watkins, who along with the other pastors had come to talk about poverty. “But the president got every biblical allusion and reference. … He’s just a person who is biblically and theologically literate.”

If Obama’s personal theology has grown more conservative, he is inclined to apply it toward liberal political ends.

“I’d be remiss if my values were limited to personal moments of prayer or private conversations with pastors or friends,” Obama said at the National Prayer Breakfast in February. “So instead, I must try - imperfectly, but I must try - to make sure those values motivate me as one leader of this great nation.”

In signing laws that have increased Wall Street regulations and stopped health insurance companies from rejecting patients with preexisting conditions, Obama said at the breakfast, he wanted to “make the economy stronger for everybody.”

“But I also do it because I know that far too many neighbors in our country have been hurt and treated unfairly over the last few years,” he continued. “And I believe in God’s command to ‘love thy neighbor as thyself.’”

Obama and first lady Michelle Obama and their daughters Malia and Sasha leave church after attending a Sunday prayer service.

Obama went on to frame decisions as disparate as ending tax breaks for the wealthy and defending foreign aid as examples of biblical principles in action, quoting Jesus’ teaching that “for unto whom much is given, much shall be required” and invoking the “biblical call to care for the least of these.”

That last biblical reference also loomed large in another 2011 White House meeting between Obama and a group of religious leaders. They’d come to urge the president to protect programs for the poor amid his fight with Congress over raising the nation’s debt ceiling.

The Rev. Jim Wallis, a progressive activist, recalls the meeting:

In pressing Obama to take cuts to those programs off the table, one Roman Catholic bishop told the president that “the text that we are obliged to obey does not say ‘as you have done to the middle class you have done to me.’”

“It says as you’ve done to the least of these, you have done to me,” the bishop said.
“I know that text,” Obama responded. The passage is from the Matthew 25 in the New Testament.

“So there was this very rigorous conversation,” Wallis says, “and we pressed him on applying Matthew 25 to this decision about protecting those who were the least of these.”

Ultimately, the programs that the religious leaders were lobbying for were protected in the debt ceiling deal, though it’s unclear how big a role the religious leaders played.

For liberal Christians, such victories embody the justice of the social gospel, the idea that believers should do God’s work – even aid the Second Coming - by improving society.

“I do notice that sometimes, like on health care, when [Obama] says it’s the right thing to do, it’s him saying you love God by loving your neighbor,” says Watkins, who leads a mainline denomination called Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). “He’s doing the best he can to be guided by God so he can be a faithful follower of Christ.”

Skeptics might write off Obama’s Bible talk as sanctimonious window dressing, aimed at no higher purpose than connecting with churchgoers in the purple and red states. But translating the Good Book into progressive politics has always been a mainstay of Obama’s political biography.

‘An awesome God in the blue states’

When Obama landed on Chicago’s South Side in 1985 as an idealistic 23-year-old, eager to start work as a community organizer, he was already a political liberal.

He was also a man without a religion, the son of a spiritual-but-not-religious mother whom he would later describe as “a lonely witness for secular humanism” and an estranged African father who was born a Muslim but died an atheist.

Obama’s work in Chicago, built around causes like tenants’ rights and job training for laid-off workers, was steeped in religion.

His salary was paid by a coalition of churches. And the job took him into many black churches, among the most influential institutions in the neighborhood he was organizing, including Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ.

After a lifelong struggle to fit in, set in motion by his mixed-race parents, Trinity felt like home.

“I came to realize that without a vessel for beliefs, without an unequivocal commitment to a particular community of faith,” he wrote later, “I would be consigned at some level to always remain apart.”

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who brought Obama to Christianity, ignited controversy that almost brought down Obama's 2008 presidential campaign.

The changes that Wright’s church wrought weren’t just personal. Baptism and active membership there equipped Obama with an ability to connect with churchgoers he was trying to organize – and, years later, with religious voters he was trying to win over – in a deeper way.

Wright, who did not respond to interview requests for this story, gave Obama a moral framework for his liberal politics. The pastor espoused a black liberation theology that equates Jesus’ life and death with the plight of those who Wright saw as disenfranchised, from African-Americans to Palestinians.

“Wright is the religious version of almost everything Obama already believed without religion,” says Mansfield, who spent time at Trinity for his book. “It’s a support of oppressed people anywhere in the world.”

When Obama emerged on the national stage, his comfortable religiosity and sensitivity to the concerns of churchgoing Americans helped distinguish him as a Democrat.

“We worship an awesome God in the blue states,” he declared to huge applause in his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, catching the attention of young Christians like Joshua DuBois.

But at that same convention, Obama’s party nominated John Kerry, a candidate who eschewed God talk and who lost his own Catholic demographic on Election Day.

Four years later, Obama hired religious outreach staffers like DuBois for his presidential campaign and made a point of meeting with Christian Right leaders who’d never before heard from a Democratic presidential nominee.

Obama went on to win in places like Indiana and North Carolina, evangelical-heavy states that a Democratic presidential nominee hadn’t taken in decades.

If the Rev. Wright had almost brought down his presidential campaign, the controversial minister had also long ago laid the groundwork for Obama to connect with the churchgoing voters who had turned their backs on Kerry.

The politics of confusion

As president, the line between Obama’s personal convictions and his political prowess on religious matters can sometimes be hard to discern.

Obama invited the conservative evangelical megapastor Rick Warren to give the invocation at his 2009 inauguration, ruffling liberal feathers. He introduced an annual Easter prayer breakfast as a new White House tradition. He gives shout-outs to young evangelical leaders in major speeches.

Obama asked evangelical pastor Rick Warren to pray at his inauguration, riling some of the president's liberal supporters.

All can be seen as genuine reflections of Obama’s faith and his appreciation for the role of religious leaders in public life. And in a nation where more people believe in angels than in evolution - a fact that the president himself has publicly noted - all promise political benefits.

The same could be said for Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, and for presidents as diverse as Jimmy Carter and Reagan: All had deep spiritual streaks that enabled the political art of courting religious Americans, especially evangelicals.

The irony, in Obama’s case, is that despite his orthodox utterances - there’s “something about the resurrection of our savior, Jesus Christ, that puts everything else in perspective,” he said at this year's Easter breakfast - polls continue to show widespread confusion about his faith.

Only half the country can correctly identify Obama as Christian, according to one recent Pew poll, while 17% falsely believe he is a Muslim.

“He’s a Christian and he professes his Christian faith - I don’t know what else this man has to do to get that into folks’ ears,” says Caldwell, who was also close to George W. Bush.

President Obama at the 2011 White House Easter prayer breakfast, an annual tradition that he started.

But Obama’s public piety has helped him bond with young evangelical leaders, who are less tied to the GOP than their parents’ generation.

“I was struck by the specificity of what he described in terms of theology and what it means to him,” says Gabe Lyons, one such leader, describing a White House Easter breakfast he attended. “His message is very specific and very orthodox.”

Where exactly that new orthodoxy comes from – the pressures of the White House, a new circle of religious advisers or, to a certain degree, from political calculation – may become clearer after Obama's presidency, if he opens up about such matters.

Until then, the president is likely to keep speaking "Christianese" - and resisting Christian labels.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Barack Obama • Christianity • Politics

soundoff (4,988 Responses)
  1. wizardwerdna

    You know, after publishing that article about whether the President is the "right kind of Christian," last week, CNN has lost all standing to discuss the President and his faith in any manner. Just stop writing about it altogether. You don't seem excited about reporting the truth, and persist in giving space and credence to those who take the unChristian and uncharitable positions about one of the Presidential candidates.

    As Bill O'Reilly would say, "shut up." Your "reporting" is awful, just awful.

    Religion and faith are important things, worthy of reflection and note. The unmitigated and awful hate you spewed last week was not only unworthy but downright evil and offensive to people of faith. Now, even as you try to make up for it with a "kinder, gentler," play on it, you persist on writing about the lies and hatred, supporting the suggestions that the President is unChristian.

    Has it occurred to you how odd it is that Pew didn't poll Americans to ask whether Mitt Romney is Christian? Or more generally whether Mormon's are Christian. Whether a Mormon is "the right kind of Christian" or a Christian at all?

    There are legitimate criticisms about some religious influences on the President's life. There is also a hateful anti-mormonism out there too, and many many pages on the internet discussing about how Mormonism is not Christianity at all as generally understood, but a mode of Cultism. This isn't about faith, its about CNN's anti-Obamaism. Why is that, do you suppose?

    It is not a "position" at all, whether or not the President is a Christian. Not an opinion. Those who suggest he is Muslim or another faith are simply ignorant or too prejudiced to understand truth. Yet you report the Pew poll as though it were meaningful. Where are the Pew polls about Romney's Mormonism and whether he is or is not a Christian? Why is that?

    Promoting religious and racial bigotry in a manner to suggest that it is a legitimate "position" is beneath CNN. Or maybe it isn't. Please, do America a favor and just stop the pretense, instead merely reminding us how awful and irresponsible journalists you really are.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
  2. Bill Willy

    Holy mackerel! A man spends years and years listening, and praising, the words of a racist extremist, then when he needs votes, he does a 180, and you call it evolving? The rest of the civilized world calls that lying. We should change the spelling of the word liberal to D U P E.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
  3. MoRmOns R-not CHristiaNS

    Of course his faith changed as soon as he knew the truth about the ETs that live below and above us.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • What happened to Unbiased News?

      NeItHeR R-MuSlIms...

      October 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
  4. bob

    Does any intelligent person actually believe that the Koch Brothers donated $100 million because Mitt Romney is going to protect the middle class from people like them?

    October 28, 2012 at 10:46 am |
  5. Jim Steele

    Shuckin' and Jivin' your religious beliefs to win re-election shouldn't be characterized as "evolution". He's desperate and willing to distort any doctrine for his own interests.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:46 am |
    • jim

      Obama's winning. Romney's chance of doing so is 1 in 4.

      If that's what you call desperation, let's have more of it.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Frank

      Jim – he's winning only if wishful thinking translates to votes. Last time I consulted reality, the poopaganda you're espousing was just that – wishful thinking.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Truth

      Romney will win. The n1ggershines are OVER in this country, for ever after.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:57 am |
  6. ambasuta

    God is inside us as he is omnipresent, only thing is we should do good karma (su-karma) and realize him. no point fighting in name of religion. like all rivers finally join ocean all religions lead to same god

    October 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  7. Robin Eichstadt

    Please. Who cares about his faith. Four Americans in Libya, abandoned by this man, are dead and CNN will not report about it.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
    • What happened to Unbiased News?

      Absolutely, the man that was labeled "America's first gay president" for his support of gay marriage is now being praised by CNN for his faith. Just in time to get the undecided Christian voters I guess...

      October 28, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • Ellen Thompson

      This looks like a desparate attempt to cultivate more votes.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:52 am |
  8. tspokc

    Dear Ohioans ... please hear the message of reality.

    "This administration's proudest foreign policy boast is the assassination of Osama Bin Laden. But the Benghazi fiasco and the simultaneous mob burning of our Cairo Embassy by Al Qaida on the eleventh anniversary of 9/11/01, proves to radical Muslims that Osama bin Laden has won. His jihad has gone from strength to strength, gathering more militant fanatics than we killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden is now a hero, and Barack Obama is a weakling who never stops trying to surrender and apologize.
    The New York Times just found a known leader of the September 11 assault by AQIM - Al Qaida in the Maghreb - lounging openly in the coffee houses of Benghazi, with no fear of retaliation for burning down our mission and murdering our Ambassador. Our deeply deluded media and Democrats are pretzel-bending the facts to argue that Benghazi means nothing.
    Radical Muslims know better."
    by Peter Lewis in The American Thinker

    October 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  9. Hope Dope

    CNN you've really shown how completely biased you are in your reporting. Obama is NOT a Christian. Obama is a political animal that will change his stance to appeal to a specific group to get their vote. Obama supports abortion and is proud about that. He supports the most heinous partial birth abortion. No CNN, Obama is definitely NOT a Christian.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:45 am |
  10. keith

    To have a president stick up a finger and determine his beliefs based on polling data is VERY telling.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
  11. karenjay

    I agree-CNN investigate Benghazi.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
  12. Dan

    That's all BS. obama is a godless moslem and always has been.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • midwest rail

      Delusional idiocy.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:44 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What a bunch of loonies.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:52 am |
  13. HGB

    And this is the problem with Obama. His CORE values are always "evolving"... We need a LEADER. Someone who has already BOTHERED to think about such issues BEFORE he sets foot in the White House.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • cryslas

      And where do you get your news from? Faux News, Hannity, Rush....oh what's the use when critical thinking skills are not in place.

      October 28, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  14. N. Lemmon


    October 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
  15. Elizabeth wafula

    We in Kenya are praying daily for this great humanist compassionate.humble.caring.humanist. Obama2012

    October 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
  16. karenjay

    Oh my-now CNN is trying to help Obama with the evangelical base. Really? Are you guys really just the Obama's campaign team?

    October 28, 2012 at 10:43 am |
  17. Sun

    What conclusions can we draw from the words of the leaders of the Mormon church regarding Jesus’ birth?

    It was the result of natural action, (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 115).
    Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Ghost," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 51); (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p. 19).
    "The Father came Himself and favoured that spirit with a tabernacle instead of letting any other man do it," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, 1857, p. 218).
    The birth was the result of natural action, (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).
    "The Father God was the literal parent of Jesus in the flesh as well as in the spirit," (Religious Truths Defined, p. 44).
    "Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers," (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, 1966, p. 547).
    "There is nothing figurative about his [Jesus’] paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events," (Mormon Doctrine, p. 742).
    Remember, according to Mormon teaching the Holy Ghost is a male personage, a man. (Le Grand Richards, A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, Salt Lake City, 1956, p. 118; Heber C. Kimball, in Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 179).

    The Father, who is God, is also in the form of a man (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3; and Doctrine and Covenants, 130:22).

    Mary, of course, was a woman.

    This is even more interesting when we realize that the Mormon church officially proclaims that Jesus was born of a virgin. For example, Bruce McConkie stated "Modernistic teachings denying the virgin birth are utterly and completely apostate and false." (Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, page 822.) That is fine. Let them proclaim it. But quite honestly, I fail to see how the Mormon people can assert that Mary remained a virgin in light of this evidence from their prophets and apostles. I see them saying two different things while backpedaling, trying to seem Christian.

    Of course, this is my opinion and the Mormons who read this will accuse me of sensationalism. But, I am simply pointing out what many of their official church leaders have said. In the changing teachings of Mormonism, you never know what you'll find next.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • texasgoat

      Who gives a flying fuzk.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Jason Young Guy

      As a moderate Christian. I whole heartily agree. You wrote this very well and above all in a great demeanor. No one can judge someone how they evolve in their Christian Faith. It's why it's called "accepting Christ as your Savior" You aren't just born a Christian, you are reborn. So I believe the President and his devout to our Faith. If he lied, then he will answer to God himself for it not us. Just like people will answer to God himself as well for their personal decisions.

      October 28, 2012 at 11:02 am |
  18. "O"ver

    CNN- investigate Benghazi!

    October 28, 2012 at 10:41 am |
  19. What happened to Unbiased News?

    Obama is about as Christian as my dog. Pathetic that CNN would try to claim Obama is an evangelical Christian. His faith and actions have more in common with Islam than Christianity.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • RoonyC

      Whatever happened to intelligent comments? How can you possibly say that Obama's faith is Islamic? That is a totally emotional and unfounded piece of nonsense. No one has the right to common on another person's inner beliefs, and there is nothing on the outside that reflects what you said–nothing whatsoever. I could care less if he is Islamic–in my mind the religion makes more sense than Mormonism–but that's a personal choice and I have nothing against Romney for his religious choices. But your comment is childish.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Paul Wootton

      Amen!!! Obama's actions speak much louder than his words and he has been waging a war on religion since he entered office. I call this President a Political Christian.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:48 am |
    • Truth

      Your dog is closer to being a human being than On1gger is.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:59 am |
  20. Mike

    Romeny may not be the guy (Obama certainly isn't), but at least Romney has faith which is more than just politicallly expedient. Obama realized he had to appeal to the masses in order to be accepted, so he changed his colors, and will continue to do so in all ways, blow with the wind relgiously so to speak, depending on who he's courting. If it was to Obama's benefit to say that he believed in Zeus or Apollo, he would do so.

    October 28, 2012 at 10:41 am |
    • NYOMD

      Can't even spell. And if people like you really want to vote for Romney, then you better believe in a G8d because we will need one to help save us from him.

      October 28, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • cryslas

      Please do yourself a favor and read about the White Horse Prophesy and Mormonism. And google a letter FORMER MORMON EXPLAINS WHY ROMNEY SHOULD NEVER BE PRESIDENT. Note that I do not hate Mormons. My best friend was a Mormon growing up and many relatives in Utah are Mormons. They are all fine people and have great families. But their religion IS there life and what the Mormon President and 12 Apostles say to them comes straight from God and has tremendous power of influence. Romney WILL listen to them when making decisions about our country and the world. And they do believe in eventual Mormon theocracy.

      October 28, 2012 at 11:14 am |
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