October 29th, 2012
04:52 PM ET
The Undecided: Radical for Jesus, dubious of Romney
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor
Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) - With Bible verses painted on the walls of his living room and with an unshakable belief that hell is for real, there's no question that Rob Seyler is a devout evangelical Christian.
He is also a renegade.
Tucked into his well-thumbed Bible, the spine held together with silver duct tape, is a picture of Marilyn Manson in full goth makeup. Seyler, a high school Bible teacher, says the metal singer's writings shed light into the secret world of suffering teens.
Musically, Seyler gravitates more to Johnny Cash, partly because of the musician's intense religiosity. But Seyler will be the first to tell you that Cash's memoir of life as a sinner, "Man in Black," is much better than Cash's Christian novel, "Man in White."
His renegade streak extends to Seyler's classroom at the Grandview Park Baptist School in gritty East Des Moines, where he has painted so many brightly colored quotes and pictures onto the walls that it looks like a pop artist's studio. There are Bible verses and a black and white silhouette of Johnny Cash and an image that Seyler says has "created a little bit of a ruckus."Read the fully story about undecided Iowa evangelical voter Rob Seyler.
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Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) – With Bible verses painted on the walls of his living room and with an unshakable belief that hell is for real, there's no question that Rob Seyler is a devout evangelical Christian.
He is also a renegade.
He is also in a cult. It's called Christianity. It is the same as any other cult, built on fear, guilt and ignorance.
Booty to true.
When reading forums remeber these names that are all one person or at least part of some religious nut job cult
they even converse with themselves saying same things over and over everyday all day
I got the guy to talk to so its not a bot what kinda freekoids are these people
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Anybody know how to read?
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Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things
Anybody know how to read?
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Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son
I don't know about that.
I may not be a linguistic professional, but most of those people all have different writing styles.
That would have to be one talented writer to be able to make all those posts in different styles and different substance.
I was not on your list, and I post about the same thing here in my entries.
Making fun of fundies and their sky fairy.
Come to think of it, it is getting a bit boring to post the same thing everytime.
If they do have different writing styles then they are part of some wackjob cult because they post same things on every article and same people reply with same replies over and over
I feel like I'm in a burning building and I've got to go.
so your a rebel for Jesus,.. you need to get your head check buddy
being a rebel of the tyrant king is like being a rebel for the CIA.
you are not one of my kin i will denounce you.
i am שמיחזה
i am the greatest rebel, i stand against god injustice now and for eve.
you are a lie not a rebel you mean to trick rebels to fighting for your cause of slavery
do not use my name if you fight for god,.. if one of my followers find you we will attack, you are a enemy. not a rebel
Sam, you are correct. I will join with you to defeat the rebels.
so called "rebels"
thy fight for a tyrannical regime that is not rebellion its obedience
Your husband takes you to the company Christmas party. You have long been jealous of his very attractive co-worker Genevieve, and your jealous imagination suspects there is a spark between them. You dress to the nines and look great. The moment comes to say hello to her. She is beautiful, charming and smells intoxicating. You break a heal just as you reach to shake her hand. You spill your drink on both Genevieve and your husband. They look at each other and giggle, holding the gaze a bit too long.
Religious people can "spin" ANYTHING to favor their god myth.
Like Sandy here.
Remember when Pat the moron Roberts was spinning the eathquate in Haiti as evidence of god and some kind of France link?
Yeah, god makes some kind of natural disaster, then the people who live, or don't live anywhere near there all get together and say how much god loves us when we read about a few harrowing survivals.
When I see a huge sandles foot come out the sky and stomps some section of the globe into smithereens, maybe I will take notice of you fundies and your god myth.
But until then, natural disasters are just that, natural.
This time it is the Jets who made a “pact to the Devil”.
The Jets sure did.
Bringing on Teatardbow to sell a few more trinkets is worse then making a deal with the devil. At least a deal with the devil would have ended with a SuperBowl ring.
Now they are just a ring around the toilet bowl.
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Seriously bro, give it a rest.
We were tired of your schtick months ago.
You are not even creepy to us anymore, just boring.
You have overstayed your welcome, go post your drivel on some republican site. They might actually appreciate it.
I don't want to be a Hindu ism. They have those creepy mult-armed godesses ya'll.
A few things that strike me as...well...wrong.
Why was this guy showed anti-abortion videos while in public school in Pennsylvania? Whose taxes were paying for that?
Why would CNN think that anybody would really think anything about this man is good...let's see, he's contributing to the over-popluation of the world (selfishly), he STILL thinks Obama might be Muslim, and he looks like he came from the gutters of NYC.
OK, the only plus side to this man is that he's right about what Mormons believe...it is pretty creepy and should NOT be what the President of the USA belongs to.
Jesus your a towel.
Horrors, earth quakes, floods, disasters are God's wrath against all of us. You atheist fools are out doing satan's evil. My twelve-year-old daughter quit smoking, but she can't get her kids to stop. You prideful atheists better throw away that user's manual.
I am my twelve year old daughter. I have multiple personalities and I'm a d*uchebag.
Scotty *cough Tommie Tom, I see you are up to your old tricks. You atheists steal my handle to post lies about Jesus. I lost the remote in my camel-toe but the dog got it out. We Christians are on these articles to speak the truth about His glory.
You would have to be a total idiot to leave your kids in that guy's presence.
I bet his beard is soft just like Santa Claus. I want to snuggle with it.
And all of it is based on nothing more then because someone told him so when he was a kid.
No evidence, no proof, no logic, just the ramblings of 2000 year old goat herder fables.
The funny part is, the babble is a huge rip off from earlier religions that existed in that area.
How many guns do you think he owns?
Niknak, too true, christians are r tar ded
That portion of the Bible written 2000 years ago, the New Testament was not the work of herders, one was a doctor several were what we would call professionals, at least one was an educated scholar and a few were fishermen, not a goat herder in the group. The Old Testament, being somewhat older may have had a few shepherds as authors but many were of varied or professional backgrounds. Seems niknak is either misinformed or under the delusions of its personal hatred.
@truth be told
The authors of the bible are not the issue.
Truth be told...are you serious? You really think that you or anybody knows what vocation the supposed writers of the christian bible were. I mean, you are kidding right?
They did not have doctors 2000 years ago, at least anything close to what we could consider a doctor, unless you think blood letting qualifies. And I don't think blood letting had even been invented as a "cure" 2000 years ago.
Yes, there was an Egytian who many consider to be the first doctor, but I am thinking you would never give credit for the babble to some brown skinned person.
The babble is only for blue eyed white skinned people, so it had to have been written by people with blue eyes and lilly white skin, right?
The issue is niknak was wrong which means it was in error across the board. Niknaks credibility is in the toilet to all thinking people everywhere, of course anything one so called atheist lies to others will swear to.
You have been shown to be a mean spirited liar and ignorant of both the Bible and first century Palestine. If anyone in the area was fair with blue eyes he would have been radically different from the native inhabitants. Luke was a physician and many of that day were reported to be quite skilled, more so than the physicians that attended George Washington for example.
@truth be told
Christian = No credibility.
OK, let's back up a bit.
You have more then once written that I am mean spirited.
Of the 100s of posts I have made, show me one instance where I have been mean spirited.
I don't even use curse words. Moron is about the only thing I have ever said, and I have not called any poster that.
Yes, I have said that you fundies are fools for believing in an imaginary being.
That is not mean spirited, it is the truth.
Because until you come back with some proof, that does not involve magic, of your sky fairy, then is is false.
Which does in fact make you fools for believing in it.
As to the babble, and the color of the people who wrote it. I have been to many fundie households, and jeebus is always a northern caucasin with blue eyes. The apostles too.
And if you ask the ordinary fundie what the people who wrote the babble looked like, I bet you would get what I wrote.
There is a poster here who goes by the handle "If horses had god, their gods would look like horses."
I'm sorry, "truth be told", but every assertion you have ever made in the Belief Blog has been unfounded.
And where did I lie?
And why do I have to be an expert on the babble to post here?
There are millions of people on this planet who have never even heard of the babble.
Dude, your 2000 year old book of fables is not original, or even interesting.
The sun is coming out like a big bald head.
Prayer changes things
Not in front of a hurricane it isn't.
No it doesn't, and you are such a liar!
And all that other stuff that guy writes to you when you post your drivel.
I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".
I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book can help you:
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This troll is not a christian.
Hurricane Katrina: 1830 dead and many still missing.
If your religion is a way to separate you from your cash . . . HUGE RED FLAG!
If your religion is a way to manipulate your vote . . . HUGE RED FLAG!
The thing about ignorant religious people is that they are quite aggressive in defending their ignorance.
In a liberated society, freedom of conscience facilitates the progression of civilization. A purport of the notion of freedom of mind, Science provides an analytical method for our mere human minds to come to grasp with that which is the beauty of the infinitesimal universe around us. That is, until ignorant folks attempt to squash, main, and silence the voice of reason.
Take the South and Midwest, where ignorance is the fashion of the day and any droplet of intellectual curiosity is squandered by the religious right. Free thinkers are herded by the sheep of the masses into conforming to the norm. From a young age children are taught not to question authority, not to question morality, not to question the essence of life. Scientific methods are obfuscated in favor of Creationist dribble.
It is not unusual for a “teacher” in the South and Midwest to be incessant that evolution is wrong and to try to prove to students that the geological record supports the theory of a great flood while abridging the great 4,600,000,000 year span of geological time into a mere 6000. Religion seeps into the classroom to perverse the minds of the student body. Christianity is a moral puppet and anyone who had a different world view was ostracized. Furthermore, many children can't grasp the basic fundamentals of modern science that allow us to live in such a technologically progressive society. How are they to be imparted upon lessons of logic and analytical reasoning when they believe in the fairy tale of god?
I was in the South once. They put ketchup on their spaghetti noodles ya'll.
That guy looks like a Manson Family groupie. He's got those Helter Skelter eyes.
Rob Seyler should be arrested for child abuse.