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 Rob Seyler in the classrom where he teaches the Bible to high school students.
October 29th, 2012
04:52 PM ET
The Undecided: Radical for Jesus, dubious of RomneyBy Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) - With Bible verses painted on the walls of his living room and with an unshakable belief that hell is for real, there's no question that Rob Seyler is a devout evangelical Christian. He is also a renegade. Tucked into his well-thumbed Bible, the spine held together with silver duct tape, is a picture of Marilyn Manson in full goth makeup. Seyler, a high school Bible teacher, says the metal singer's writings shed light into the secret world of suffering teens. Musically, Seyler gravitates more to Johnny Cash, partly because of the musician's intense religiosity. But Seyler will be the first to tell you that Cash's memoir of life as a sinner, "Man in Black," is much better than Cash's Christian novel, "Man in White." His renegade streak extends to Seyler's classroom at the Grandview Park Baptist School in gritty East Des Moines, where he has painted so many brightly colored quotes and pictures onto the walls that it looks like a pop artist's studio. There are Bible verses and a black and white silhouette of Johnny Cash and an image that Seyler says has "created a little bit of a ruckus." Read the fully story about undecided Iowa evangelical voter Rob Seyler.
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In 1994, Bain invested $27 million as part of a deal with other firms to acquire Dade International, a medical-diagnostics-equipment firm, from its parent company, Baxter International. Bain ultimately made nearly 10 times its money, getting back $230 million. But Dade wound up laying off more than 1,600 people and filed for bankruptcy protection in 2002, amid crushing debt and rising interest rates. The company, with Bain in charge, had borrowed heavily to do acquisitions, accumulating $1.6 billion in debt by 2000. The company cut benefits for some workers at the acquired firms and laid off others. When it merged with Behring Diagnostics, a German company, Dade shut down three U.S. plants. At the same time, Dade paid out $421 million to Bain Capital’s investors and investing partners.
Southern Illinois:
Controlling share owner Bain Capital closes BRP plant so the 340 jobs there could be outsourced to Mexico.
Bain closed GST Steel plant in 2001 laying off 750 workers.
http://www.examiner.com/article/mitt-romney-implicated-perjury-and-stock-fraud-made-millions-process
Notice his wall is void of anything that refers to any critical thinking.
The part in this article that I found the most sad was where it said, "Grandview Park Baptist School". It's just so sad that malleable minds have to be force-fed garbage like this just because their parents believe and send them to a "school" like this.
CNN....Why do a story on a beer bellied retro crazy...who you call a "devout evangelical Christian"?.... If this is an example of what's in the classroom today please suspend me from school!
Wow, so the guy starts out as a Columbine-shooter-wannabe, almost shoots himself, and then – (cue angelic voices: "Aaaaah!") – FINDS DA LAWD.
Well, even though he has a completely insane and irrelevant reason for voting for Obama – we'll take the vote. Thanks.
He listens to Marylin Manson? WHAT A RENEGADE!
a 90's renegade
At least Romney is real unlike Jesus, but don't vote for him, stick with Obama
Or be clever and don't vote for either of them.
That's a nice big wall of propaganda he has pasted in his classroom. He's also got the required metro torn jeans of a youth pastor. Bet he also has some tats. They all have tats.
I bet he listens to Christian Metal music.
Prayer changes things.
For instance praying lowered by IQ by 32 points. that right there is all the proof i need.
"Ronald Regonzo" who degenerates to:
"Salvatore" degenerates to:
"Douglas" degenerates to:
"truth be told" degenerates to:
"Thinker23" degenerates to:
"Atheism is not healthy ..." degenerates to:
"another repentant sinner" degenerates to:
"Dodney Rangerfield" degenerates to:
"tina" degenerates to:
"captain america" degenerates to:
"Atheist Hunter" degenerates to:
"Anybody know how to read? " degenerates to:
"just sayin" degenerates to:
"ImLook'nUp" degenerates to:
"Kindness" degenerates to:
"Chad" degenerates to
"Bob" degenerates to
"nope" degenerates to:
"2357" degenerates to:
"WOW" degenerates to:
"fred" degenerates to:
"!" degenerates to:
"pervert alert"
This troll is not a christian.
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs.
I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module, the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".
I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book can help you:
I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
by the Alzheimer's Disease Society
Hi Prayerbot.
Tough question for y'all:
Who would you let your kids with first, this guy or a Catholic priest?
If you put you in the mix I would prefer either of the others hands down.
The only kind of "trickle-down" that actually works:
"cristopher hitchens" degenerates to:
"Douglas" degenerates to:
"pervert alert" who makes such lovely posts as "que ers the ones who gave aids to america" degenerates to:
"Taskmaster" degenerates to:
"Ronald Regonzo" degenerates to:
"truth be told" degenerates to:
"Atheism is not healthy ..." degenerates to:
"tina" degenerates to:
"captain america" degenerates to:
"just sayin" degenerates to:
"nope" degenerates to:
"WOW" degenerates to:
"!" degenerates to:
and many other names, but of course I prefer to refer to this extreme homophobe as
the disgruntled Evangelical Fortune Cookie Co. writer boot camp flunkie.
That's a false dichotomy fallacy. There are more choices than just that.
A priest,
This guy is like the Camel Cigarette cartoon character for christianity and is a kid magnet. Priests are easier to fend off.
christians, you are in a cult. ALL religions are cults. leave the cult. think for yourself.
If you think you represent free thought you are sadly mistaken . You are the greatest argument against atheism on these blogs. Glad you're on the wrong side.
You can't even spell the name of the (mostly) great man who's name you've commandeered.
Are you referring to the blasphemous drunk whose throat rotted out of him at a relatively early age, and spewed his graffiti in some third rate rag?
That's the fellow.
You refer to "basphemous drunk" as if it were a bad thing......
Yeah, I really want to put my high school aged kids in a closed room with the crazy-eyed believer in magic invisible superbuddies so he can brainwash them with his psychotic delusions. That sounds like a good choice . . . NOT!
Police arrested the mother of a 16-month-old toddler girl after they found her living inside a trailer in Cleveland, Texas, about a hour northeast of Houston, with co.ckroaches crawling all over her.
When police entered the home smelled what they believed to be rotting, decaying flesh and found a toddler with rashes and bug bites sitting among squalid conditions. Police removed the toddler from the house and placed her in the custody of child protective services.
He was in the hearts and minds of the police officers who dedicate their lives to protecting and serving others.
Why do you even post this crap?
How do you know that, Bill? Do you think all police, firefighters and doctors believe in your version of god? Got any evidence to back up this opinion? Do you even have a clue as to who the officers were or what they believed?
And let me ask you this, Billy: Do you really think that someone who is an atheist or agnostic would have stood by and done nothing to help that child?
Really, you're such a dumbazz.
Carlnelus Delaney Simmons, age 37, reportedly took his girl-friends 16 month old son, Jabraylon Bables, and dipped him into a pot of boiling water. According to The Dallas Morning News, the baby suffered for 36 days before succ.umbing to his grotesque and brutal injuries. He was presumably in agonizing pain, as his burns covered most of his lower body and melted the skin off his body and of which subsequently became infected.
Bringing Mr. Seyler into the 21st century:
Only for the new members of this blog:
1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482
“New Torah For Modern Minds
Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.
Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.
The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “
prob•a•bly
Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.
2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.
The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
earlychristianwritings.com/
For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".
Current RCC problems:
Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!
2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).
Current problems:
Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,
A Edinburgh, Indiana man is behind bars today after he seriously injured his newborn daughter by allegedly throwing the infant across the room.
Bradley Kyle Eddleman, 23-years-old, fractured his infant daughter’s skull after he allegedly threw her across the room. The infant was rushed to the hospital where medical personnel noted finger impressions and bruising all over the baby’s body. According to the Daily Journal, the police report said doctors found bruising along the baby’s back, knee and lower leg.
The infant was treated at Riley Hospital for Children where she admitted for a few days and then released. Doctors are unsure if the infant will suffer permanent disabilities from her injuries since more time is needed to fully assess if the baby will suffer permanent damage.
1Cr 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.
Lettuce Love
G.O.D.
A 10 day old infant newborn was killed when her mother, who was reportedly high on drugs, threw the baby into the washing machine where the baby died after going through an entire washing machine cleansing cycle.
The infant, Maggie May Trammel, was found by her great aunt, who was inside the Oklahoma home and went looking for the infant after she found her mother passed out on the sofa. According to The NY Daily News, the great-aunt heard a clunking noise coming from the washer machine. When she opened it, she found the newborn dead.
This seemed like a good article but it was so short. What happened.
This seemed like a bad article but it was so long. What happened.