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November 9th, 2012
08:57 AM ET
Church of England names new archbishop of CanterburyBy Laura Smith-Spark, CNN London (CNN) - The Church of England named former oil executive Justin Welby as the next archbishop of Canterbury, making him the titular leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans. Welby, who has been a bishop for only a year, is considered an outspoken critic of the excesses of capitalism, a supporter of women bishops and an opponent of gay marriage. He will be enthroned as archbishop of Canterbury on March 21. Speaking as his appointment was announced Friday at Lambeth Palace in London, Welby said it was a privilege to take the helm at a time when the "tide of events is turning" and the Church has great opportunities to be involved in a changing world. Read the full story about the appointment of the next archbishop of Canterbury |
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Humor is but the concubine of which I do so long for. May the gods who reside in my body (as the elementals) bring forth a smile whenever goodly humor befalls my sight.
Let Us Love All,
Lettuce Love Ya'll,
G.O.D.
John Hurt as Jesus.....genius. Never get tired of that.
These two heavy-weights need no introduction:
GOONS, THINKING OF YOUR SELF TO BE TRUTH ABSOLUTE ISM
VS
Where do the ungodly formulate their ideologies from when they venture forth an opinion? Lettuce.
Llllllllllllllllllet's Get Ready to Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrumble!
http://youtu.be/VpFITa9eYoQ
That's the point, the ungodly don't think, they are too busy lusting after the flesh.
NotanAtheist,
Yes it is a truth that people lust in fleshly desires. All are not guiltless and but a few seek godly goodnesses in the fleshly desires. Bitten are all the s3xes by many such lusts. Therefore is not the goodly characters found to be higher than s3xual infirmities which never will be cleansed no matter how hard religious society tries?
Where lays a person's consciousness in times when one reflects upon abnormal societal relations creating a personal subdiffusion within another's reflective ism? Are such people rendered being inadequate by others who themselves are awkwardly ingenuous? Does there lay a pyramidal conflagration each and every time a person of goodly conscience surfaces from the social abyss to render their opinionated differences? Who among us is formulated as being different from otherly pottaged folds?
Where do the ungodly formulate their ideologies from when they venture forth an opinion? Who among the ungodly can stand alone and without need of argumentative soothsayers hiding in near corners waiting for to pounce whenever the goodly natured give rise their opinions? Is it not truthful that many ungodly do sound off to unjustly irritate the rational attempts goodly people endure to make conversation? Where does ungodly end and goodly begin? Who plays and who stays on the benches?
Lettuce Love
Let Us Love
G.O.D.
Is there not the bath tub of saltiness or the Sticky Spirit from whence came about the complex beings we smell as being the fertilizer? Are not these complex bird droppings considered by immigrants to be of a micro odiferous precise to strawberry yield? Field mice hence hanta virus ‘gives’ such to be of pesticides itself? Do we not ignore our one time longings taking great note of the hugely obese things of Farming considered as being merely a cross- pollination event? The manure of fertilization could not be if it weren't for the 'irrigation' these large sprinkler systems provide and boundaries of in-celled acreage. My body having a sore back from picking cannot be reconciled by profuse low wages and snubbing of hard work in hot sun-baked.
Love Let Us,
Love Lettuce,
G.O.D.
subdiffusion pottaged soothsayers lettuce blah blah
I'm sorry G.O.D. for taking your name and falsely saying stupid things to make you look stupid. Forgive me G.O.D.
Would that that were true, but G.O.D. looks stupid quite well on his own.
children of canterbury - run!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0kiiB3O-o
Hi prayerbot?
Oil and Reliogion : Great mix !!!! Let the bishop starting praying for all CEOs to get into heaven before the camels 😉
Prayer changes things .
Care to demonstrate that claim?
I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your assertions regarding atheism and prayer are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent truths is: "TOTAL FAIL".
I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book can help you:
I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
by the Alzheimer's Disease Society
Hi Prayerbot...
And the delusion continues. . . How long until religion takes its rightful place beside astrology?
It has been around in one form or another since , some would say the beginning. More important question is when will folks like yourself who can not grasp that folks believe, look, or love differently than you be finally brought to the world of tolerance or tossed on the scrap heap with others of your ilk, both inside and outside of the Faiths.
You don't have a clue how tolerant I actually am. I don't care what people do or think provided it's legal, between consenting adults and they keep it to themselves. When they try to impose their delusional beliefs on others, that's when I become intolerant. No one must be tolerant of delusional beliefs simply because those beliefs hide behind the label of religion. Insanity is insanity and there is nothing factual about religion, other than many people believe a bunch of unsubstantiated crap.
The reality outside of religion with respect to consenting adults:
The reality of se-x, abortion, contraception and STD/HIV control: – from an agnostic guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-
Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...
The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:
: The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill (8.7% actual failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% actual failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions (one million/yr) and S-TDs (19 million cases/yr) in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.
Added information before making your next move:
from the CDC-2006
"Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."
And from:
Consumer Reports, January, 2012
"Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-
Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.
"Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)
Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.
The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":
– (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
– (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)
Followed by:
One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)
Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.0-26.0, with the same caveat as the Sponge), and Spermicides (18.0).
Galatians 5:16
16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
And how is Galatians related to practicing safe se-x?
And if we are going to thum-p a passage from the NT:
JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.")
Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694.
Actually, Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.
Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Many contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.
Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!
So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher/magic man or his embellishers did or said?
Galatians is telling us to stop lusting after the flesh. The only way you can do this is to pay attention to Jesus' truth and not the ways of man.
Summarizing with a prayer:
The Apostles' Creed 2012: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)
Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??
I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)
Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,
He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Jerusalem.
Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.
Amen
(references used are available upon request)
With respect to John's Gospel and John' epistles, from Professor/Father Raymond Brown in his book, An Introduction to the New Testament, (The book has both a Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur from the Catholic Church),
John's Gospel, Date- 80-110 CE, Traditional Attribution, (2nd Century), St. John, one of the Twelve,
Author Detectable from the Contents, One who regards himself in the tradition of the disciple.
First Epistle of John, Authenticity- Certainly by a writer in the Johannine tradition, probably NOT by the one responsible for most of the Gospel.
From Professor Bruce Chilton in his book, Rabbi Jesus,
"Conventionally, scholarship has accorded priority to the first three gospels in historical work on Jesus, putting progressively less credence in works of late date. John's Gospel for example is routinely dismissed as a source......
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John#Authorship
"Since "the higher criticism" of the 19th century, some historians have largely rejected the gospel of John as a reliable source of information about the historical Jesus.[3][4] "[M]ost commentators regard the work as anonymous,"[5] and date it to 90-100."
"The authorship has been disputed since at least the second century, with mainstream Christianity believing that the author is John the Apostle, son of Zebedee. Modern experts usually consider the author to be an unknown non-eyewitness, though many apologetic Christian scholars still hold to the conservative Johannine view that ascribes authorship to John the Apostle."
And from Professor Gerd Ludemann, in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 416,
"Anyone looking for the historical Jesus will not find him in the Gospel of John. "
Human, my Taliban father, a critic of everything, an opponent of women Mullahs and a staunch supporter of Bacha-Bazi (immoral relations of adults with under aged children) is now arch-Imam of Pinkbury mosque. Please join me in welcoming him for his new position. don't miss the opportunity to see his celebration with young kids.
http://youtu.be/zNUxq8rI6lM
hinduism, absurdity of a hindu, ignorant.
One more time for the new members:
Tis mind-boggling that a religion founded by a killer-king is still in existence.
Members?
Once you have been here on the blog for a while you learn to tune this poster out. Since Reality knows that he or she can only reach out for ones that have not seen the normal cut and paste posts.
new members = new visitors/commentators to this blog
And obviously, some still do not want to discuss the repeti-tive koran, Book of Mormon, OT and NT "thum-ptations" but the following should suffice with respect to said situation:
As a good student, you have read the reiterations of the "fems" (flaws, errors, muck and stench) of religion. Therefore the seeds have been planted in rich soil. Go therefore and preach the truth to all nations, reiterating as you go amongst the lost, bred, born and brainwashed souls of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism as Rational Thinking makes its triumphant return all because of you!!!!
Reality, 1/10th of 10% are true believers. Therefore, most people are lost.
See ya, don't want to be ya.
Raymond please post the study revealing your percentage, otherwise we might assume you made it up.
Reality et al,
Christian Fundamentalists need to take stock in John 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world" and if these fundies cannot see this as absolute Truth, then they have logs in their eyes that need major surgery. Why really would Christ honestly want to come back to this world when He has His own kingdom to deal with? Dumb klutzes are these christian fundamentalists.
With respect to John's Gospel and John' epistles, from Professor/Father Raymond Brown in his book, An Introduction to the New Testament, (The book has both a Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur from the Catholic Church),
John's Gospel, Date- 80-110 CE, Traditional Attribution, (2nd Century), St. John, one of the Twelve,
Author Detectable from the Contents, One who regards himself in the tradition of the disciple.
First Epistle of John, Authenticity- Certainly by a writer in the Johannine tradition, probably NOT by the one responsible for most of the Gospel.
From Professor Bruce Chilton in his book, Rabbi Jesus,
"Conventionally, scholarship has accorded priority to the first three gospels in historical work on Jesus, putting progressively less credence in works of late date. John's Gospel for example is routinely dismissed as a source......
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_John#Authorship
"Since "the higher criticism" of the 19th century, some historians have largely rejected the gospel of John as a reliable source of information about the historical Jesus.[3][4] "[M]ost commentators regard the work as anonymous,"[5] and date it to 90-100."
"The authorship has been disputed since at least the second century, with mainstream Christianity believing that the author is John the Apostle, son of Zebedee. Modern experts usually consider the author to be an unknown non-eyewitness, though many apologetic Christian scholars still hold to the conservative Johannine view that ascribes authorship to John the Apostle."
And from Professor Gerd Ludemann, in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 416,
"Anyone looking for the historical Jesus will not find him in the Gospel of John. "
See also http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/1john.html
I propose a Pay Per View Event, a televised debate between God's Oldest Dreamer and that babbling Hindu Hater. They can both speak their "wisdom" to each other. We can call it "The Truth (AKA, Two Babbling Zealots)". Maybe it could be moderated by "truth be told" to add more to the carnival atmosphere but then we'd have to change the AKA to "Three".
very welcome, any time, any where. any one, prove your hinduism, absurdity. As it is said, bring your hinduism, absurdity, you all, HOTO'S, GOONS, THINKING OF YOUR SELF TO BE TRUTH ABSOLUTE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE YOUR hINDUISM, DENIAL OF TRUTH ABSOLUTE ALLAH, BUT YOUR hINDUISM, IGNORANCE.
We'd have to get permission from their respective hospitals to let them out for the day and have a certified medic on hand to make sure that their medication is administered on time, maybe a couple of cattle prods if all else fails or hell, maybe just for the fun of it. We would also have to put in a disclaimer, something along the lines of 'Warning, this program you are watching could lead to sympathetic drooling and temporary, but uncontrolled, muscle spasms'.
Would be a hoot to watch though.
LOL!! 🙂
I'm telling you it would be a YouTube sensation. It would be such an immediate hit, into the future all "viral videos" would henceforth be known as "pandemic videos."
I'm all for it! Do we keep them in the straightjackets or do we allow the inevitable feces hurling?
We should probably keep each caged separately until the final 10-15 minutes when we put them into the same cage and let nature take its course.
Actually, the only caged people are those that don't believe. You're the ones that are handcuffed to the lusts of the flesh. Meaning, you buy into the ways of the world.
@ray: you weren't by chance born on Bizarro World were you?
🙂
@ Laura Smith-Spark,
Bishops are not "enthroned". Bishops are "installed", or "consecrated". CNN get someone who knows what they talking about please. Kings have thrones. In England, only the monarch sits on a "throne". Bishops have a "seat".
Laura, you can now take your seat.
Old wine new label. Bishop's, hindu prophets, fortune teller to justify hinduism, terrorism of king by an edict,
Pulled pork sandwich.
and feed it to hindu atheist, ignorant self centered. secular.
Turkey panini
Not worth the price, 5.98 for hindu stupid, 3 oz sandwich. highway robbery, bunch of hindu Jew's, greedy secular.
Panini's on sale. 4.99 + chips and small drink.
Human mosque of England also named my Taliban father a new arch-imam of Canterbury. What a coincidence?
hiduism, stupidity of a hindu ID thief.
Bologna Sandwich.
bunch of hindu Magi's, ignorant crooks, out to hind, fool humanity with magic stick of religion, never existed, never commanded, but hinduism, corruption of of truth absolute GOD, a hindu criminal out to justify hinduism racism as way of life, an insult to be called human. visit limitisthetruth.com to learn hinduism, criminality of hindu criminal Kings and their hindu Prophets, criminal fortune tellers, relabeled as Bishop's.
Sandwich.
nacho. doorknob.
Word Salad with Ranch Dressing.
Peace...
Elemental inner outer cosmos lettuce blah blah
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That babble belongs to you.
hmm good point dreamer; but i just fill as if we are talking out of context. i mean what does genetic mutations in earthworms that cause the soil to lose its nitrogen have to do with Oil or the Tyrant God.
Is there not the bath tub of saltiness or the Sticky Spirit from whence came about the complex beings we smell as being the fertilizer? Are not these complex bird droppings considered by immigrants to be of a micro odiferous precise to strawberry yield? Field mice hence hanta virus ‘gives’ such to be of pesticides itself? Do we not ignore our one time longings taking great note of the hugely obese things of Farming considered as being merely a cross- pollination event? The manure of fertilization could not be if it weren't for the 'irrigation' these large sprinkler systems provide and boundaries of in-celled acreage. My body having a sore back from picking cannot be reconciled by profuse low wages and snubbing of hard work in hot sun-baked.
Love Let Us,
Love Lettuce,
G.O.D.
Look at the size of that cross hanging from his neck.
Must be some small P e N i s syndrome thing.
Like I have said before, soon, religious people will be lugging around actual wooden crosses and wearing crowns of thorns to show just how much they love their jeebus.
No niknak, he is wearing that cuz he is going sailing later.
niknak, the lust of the flesh belongs to the nonbelievers.
Something tells me RayRay is a 40-year old virgin.
There are only two Gods, Chaos and Coincidence.
They have always existed and always shall.
Everything is is just minor details
W.D.,
Is there not the Sea of Nothingness or the Holy Spirit from whence came about the elemental beings we see as being the gods? Are not these elementals considered by science to be of a quantum physicality of unknowable to science life enti.ties hence science 'denys' such to be of Life itself? Do we not attend to our habitual longings taking little note of the infinitesimally small things of Life considered as being merely a 'naturalized' event? The Natures of Evolution could not be if it weren't for the 'elementals' these finitely small Gods establishing the chains and boundaries of in-celled commitmence. My body being called a building in the KJVB cannot be reconcilied by profuse abandonments and snubbing of ascertainable scriptured Truths.
Love Let Us,
Love Lettuce,
G.O.D.
William, those are subjective and not actually real things. Delusional much?
It amazes me how desperate the nonbelievers are that hang out on a belief blog writing their babble of why they don't believe.
@ray40yrVirgin: our babble is here to match yours.
Will Mr. Welby support Queen Elizabeth's embracement of the freedom of all religions, of all "gods"?
...since she has denied her oath to the One and Only Creator God to serve Only Him and Christ,His Son.
For God's sake and the Gods' sakes let's hope so. Only a klutz of a dumb futz would be nuts,, to not embrace the baphoons who say there are no Gods which came from God, the first one.
God the Holy Spirit being the sea of absolute Nothingness brought about the Gods which are the immeasurable elements. Christ Jesus came about thru the Gods, these immeasurable elements of infinitesimal finiteness. The trinity is but a false embolism and the dichotomy or splitting in two is how the innerspace gave birth to outerspace.
Klutz, futz, baphoons, blah blah blah
Buffoon. It's spelled b u f f o o n.
Your ridiculousness is showing.