Pat Robertson challenges creationism
Pat Robertson: "There was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth, and it was before the time of the Bible."
November 29th, 2012
04:04 PM ET

Pat Robertson challenges creationism

By Dan Merica, CNN
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Washington (CNN) – Televangelist Pat Robertson challenged the idea that Earth is 6,000 years old this week, saying the man who many credit with conceiving the idea, former Archbishop of Ireland James Ussher, “wasn’t inspired by the Lord when he said that it all took 6,000 years.”

The statement was in response to a question Robertson fielded Tuesday from a viewer on his Christian Broadcasting Network show "The 700 Club.” In a submitted question, the viewer wrote that one of her biggest fears was that her children and husband would not go to heaven “because they question why the Bible could not explain the existence of dinosaurs.”

“You go back in time, you've got radiocarbon dating. You got all these things, and you've got the carcasses of dinosaurs frozen in time out in the Dakotas,” Robertson said. “They're out there. So, there was a time when these giant reptiles were on the Earth, and it was before the time of the Bible. So, don't try and cover it up and make like everything was 6,000 years. That's not the Bible.”

Before answering the question, Robertson acknowledged the statement was controversial by saying, “I know that people will probably try to lynch me when I say this.”

“If you fight science, you are going to lose your children, and I believe in telling them the way it was,” Robertson concluded.

Forty-six percent of Americans believe that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years, according to a survey released by Gallup in June. That number has remained unchanged for the past 30 years, since 1982, when Gallup first asked the question on creationism versus evolution.

The Gallup poll has not specifically asked about views on the age of the Earth.

Ussher’s work, from the mid-1600s, is widely cited by creationists as evidence that Earth is only a few thousand years old. Answer in Genesis, the famed Christian creationist ministry behind the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky, cites Ussher as proof of Earth’s age. They describe the archbishop as “a brilliant scholar who had very good reasons for his conclusions concerning the date of creation.”

For Christians who read the creation account in Genesis literally, the six days in the account are strictly 24-hour periods and leave no room for evolution. Young Earth creationists use this construct and biblical genealogies to determine the age of the Earth, and typically come up with 6,000 to 10,000 years.

Most scientists, however, agree that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and the universe is 14.5 billion years old.

The idea of creationism has been scorned by the mainstream scientific community since shortly after Charles Darwin introduced "The Origin of Species" in 1859. By 1880, The American Naturalists, a science journal, reported nearly every major university in America was teaching evolution.

The question about Earth’s age has been in the news recently. Earlier this month, Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida attempted to walk the line between science and faith-based creationism in remarks that that provoked the ire of liberal blogs and left the door open to creationism.

“I'm not a scientist, man,” Rubio told GQ’s Micheal Hainey. “I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that's a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States.”

- CNN’s Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Christianity • Creationism • Evolution

soundoff (4,408 Responses)
  1. Mark

    Robertson is NOT challenging creationism, he is simply stating that the process of creation may not have been as simple as the literal Genesis account. Personally, I believe God created the universe but I have no idea how he did it or how long it took...and neither do evolutionists. It takes as much faith to be an evolutionist as it oes to be a creationist. As I tell my atheist friends, "We'll see."

    November 30, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • ShannonCT

      "As I tell my atheist friends, "We'll see.""

      Or we won't. You could die, your consciousness cease to exist, and nothing. You'll never know that you were wrong.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • therealpeace2all


      You Said: " Robertson is NOT challenging creationism, he is simply stating that the process of creation may not have been as simple as the literal Genesis account. "

      What would Robertson 'actually' "know" about how the process of creation started anyway ?

      You Said: " Personally, I believe God created the universe but I have no idea how he did it or how long it took"

      Operative word... "believe"

      You Said: " and neither do evolutionists. It takes as much faith to be an evolutionist as it oes to be a creationist. "

      Hmm... well, certainly as we get even more detailed information from science, we are getting a much clearer picture on things. And... no, i'm not saying that there is 'no' god, just saying that science 'is' giving us the best information...and... it will continue to fill in these 'gaps.'

      You Said: " It takes as much faith to be an evolutionist as it oes[sic} to be a creationist."

      No... not really.

      You Said: " As I tell my atheist friends, "We'll see."

      Interesting closing with a "Pascal's Wager" gambit. There could be many ways that 'you' are wrong.


      November 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV


      "I have no idea how he did it or how long it took...and neither do evolutionists"

      Actually scientists (as opposed to 'evolutionists', whatever that is supposed to mean) do have an idea about the age of the earth. They think it is about 4.5 billion years old. Is this a categorical fact? No, it is a theory, and it is based on evidence. So far there has been consensus on this estimate since 1953.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • therealpeace2all


      Hello, my friend. Hope that all is well.


      November 30, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV


      seasons greetings to you.

      November 30, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • realtalker

      Mark, I didn't mean to imply that he was challenging the belief that God created the universe and therefore the earth. What I mean is that he's challenging the scientific theory of creationism which largely focuses on the young earth. I'm sorry I didn't differentiate the two.

      November 30, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  2. Adam

    Dear God of the Gaps,

    You are shrinking every day. One day you will dissapear. And one day you will be forgotton. Don't let the Truth hit you on the way out.


    November 30, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • XENO

      No matter how small the gap it's still a gap.

      If you fill in the middle of a gap, you just get two gaps on either side.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
    • Adam

      Would you rather cram a fabricated and ill-fitting notion of a divine being in there, or look at it squarely, and admit to ourselves that yes, there are things of which we are ignorant.

      Wisdom is knowing how little we know. I would prefer not to lie to ourselves on top of that.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
  3. t

    The whole universe was in a hot dense state –
    Then nearly 14 million years ago, expansion started. Wait!
    The Earth began to cool, the autotrophs began to grow,
    Neanderthals developed tools, we built the walls, we built the Pyramids.
    Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery
    It all started with a Big Bang – BANG!!

    November 30, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • j

      "Since the dawn of man" is really not that long,
      As every galaxy was formed in less time than it takes to sing this song.
      A fraction of a second and the elements were made.
      The bipeds stood up straight,
      The dinosaurs all met their fate,
      They tried to leap but they were late
      And they all died (they froze their asses off)
      The oceans and Pangea
      See ya wouldn't wanna be ya
      Set in motion by the same big bang!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • Phil


      November 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • doomw

      Your time scale is way off (we already had primates 14 million years ago). And tools came way before neanderthals. But I agree with the spirit of your message. Trust the overwhelming evidence!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • Phil


      Actually it was only Hydrogen that was created at first. All the other element required stars nuclear reactions and violent ends to create all the others. And, that galaxies took millions of years to coalesce. Everything didn't get spit out of the Big Bang, just the hydrogen and the energy....everything else took a LOOOOOOONG time, and of course pressure.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:42 pm |
  4. snowboarder

    anyone espousing biblically literal creationism is seriously divorced from reality.

    christianity is just another of the myriad of religions invented by man.

    one fact is indisputable, with the innumerable deities, religions and doctrines today and throughout history, man is very adept at inventing god.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • J. Wade Harrell

      "Man is adept at inventing god" - I am afraid God already said that. You are a few thousand years too late.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Jimmy

      If God did not exist, it would be necessary for man to invent him – Voltaire.
      So which is it? we don't know!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:32 pm |
    • snowboarder

      jimmy – all gods are the inventions of men unless otherwise proven. the very notion that a gods existence is unknowable is the best argument for the product of human invention.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • snowboarder

      wade – god said nothing. men wrote the stories of the bible.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • sumday

      yes and it won't be long before man just calls himself G-d

      November 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • snowboarder

      sumday – many, many men already have.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • J. Wade Harrell

      Man has been pretty adept at inventing science too. Spontaneous generation, global cooling, hole in the ozone, man made global warming, blood letting, philosopher's stone, heavier objects fall faster, the atom is the smallest existing particle, earth at the center of the universe, and so on.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
  5. lionlylamb

    We, as being but biology-buildings do labor together and in equal measures find struggle with God and all his generations, his family members and servants and other Godly brethren inside our body-like buildings of inner-cosmological wonders! 1Corinthians 3:9 "For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building!"

    November 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • mama k

      It's best not to keep that stuff inside too long. Have a few prunes before you go to bed.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      mama k,

      Your cyanotic clementine's urethra does leaven a bitter tasty freeze upon your wonkiness tirade! Be a goodly mama and leave the bus! Find your own route home! This bus is too busy for the primitive minds' eyes to be leavened without obscurities reckoning and revealing domiciles of masculinity debonair!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
  6. Dan

    Out of all the polls, statistics etc... this one, in which almost half of this country, believes that man was created by God within the last 10,000 years is truly frightening. We are the only developed country that has such a high percentage of population that takes the bible as being literal. I applaud Robertson for saying what he did. I do think people's faith and science can co-exist. Although I don't believe in religious dogma, I do accept the possibility of God. But I always put my faith in science. It is the last pure thing that man does to try and understand the way things work.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • pockets

      There is no god, so relax and enjoy your lives.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
  7. TNT

    If what is real or not real can only be validated through our natural senses then we must be pretty awesome as human beings. Maybe you don’t really know everything there is to know. To think that there is a reality beyond the physical realm is only reasonable. To think that the complexity and order of creation came about by chance seems unreasonable.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Huebert

      "To think that there is a reality beyond the physical realm is only reasonable."

      Why is that reasonable?

      November 30, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • J. Wade Harrell

      Why is that not reasonable. He just told you why. To say there is no supernatural realm of spiritual existence would imply that all the order we see came about by chance. The other question would then be, why is that reasonable?

      November 30, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
    • mama k

      Maybe ancient man was much better at making stuff up than we've given him credit for.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • snowboarder

      wade – just because we do not necessarily understand the mechanism of the universe, to somehow punt the question to some "divine" being is intellectually dishonest.

      nearly all things once attributed to divine intentions have been determined to be of natural origins. there is no reason to believe that trend will miraculously reverse.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • Salvor Hardin

      Re your last sentence... it's only unreasonable if you don't have the education necessary to understand the inevitability of complexity given the laws of physics, chemistry and statistical probability. Some people (apparently not you) have taken the time to acquire that knowledge.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:48 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @TNT, I have to agree with Salvor. If you understand the science it's actually quite plausible. It's certainly plausible, too, that there was outside intervention (can't say) but the science is pretty straight forward and not that surprising given the timeframes we're looking at.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
  8. alientech

    So some 16th century priest comes up with the 6000 year figure and that is now the word of God? Strange. It's great that Pat Robertson is finally admitting that this whole idea of young earth is dumb. Of course, evangelicals will denounce him now as the spawn of Satan.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • Mike

      Evangelicals will say we are saved by faith alone out of one side of their mouth, but will tell you that you have to believe that men and dinosaurs co-existed to be saved out of the other side.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  9. Mike

    First he supports legalizing marijuana and now he says the Earth is older than 6000 years. I think Pat Robertson is getting a little sensible in his old age.

    Someone over a the 700 Club needs to reign him in before he goes totally sane.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
    • mama k

      LIKE. LMAO.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • bryant tillman

      Nice one, Mike.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • Kris

      Funny Mike! Nice.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
  10. Violinmaker

    As I understand it, there are four theories of life on the Earth
    Creationism – Life was created by God 6,000 years ago, as per the Bible
    Intelligent Design – Life was organized by a supreme source
    Evolution – Life adapts and grows based on the conditions around it; and over long periods of time it can create variations of species and even new species
    Darwinism – Life started with a single cell by chance and through the process of evolution has developed to life as we know it today
    I think it is important to keep these definitions in mind when discussing this topic.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • Huebert

      Darwinism does not address how life started, it makes no suppositions about that subject.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • todaymessage

      Darwinism & evolution is the same thing

      November 30, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
    • ShannonCT

      It's also important to keep in mind that the first two are demonstrably false.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Barton Bollfrass

      Don't forget ExoGenesis and Panspermia...

      November 30, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • ME II

      Not sure there is such a thing as "Darwinism", unless there are people out there praying to Charles Darwin. The Theory of Evolution used today is described in what is called the "Modern Synthesis" and is the only Scientific Theory of the development of life on this planet, but it does not cover the origin of life, sometimes called abiogenesis.

      The other items mentioned have no scientific basis whatsoever.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • J. Wade Harrell

      You forgot Spontaneous Generation.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • Violinmaker

      OK sorry about calling it Darwinism. Let's call it Single Cell Theory (SCT). I think we can safely say that Creationism and SCT are mutually exclusive. But you could have an Intelligent Design and Evolution hybrid that would work quite nicely together.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • ME II

      @J. Wade Harrell,
      Spontaneous Generation:
      "Typically, the idea was that certain forms such as fleas could arise from inanimate matter such as dust, or that maggots could arise from dead flesh." (Wiki)

      ... was deproven (debunked) a century or so ago. The current hypotheses for abiogenesis are completely different.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • ME II

      I'm not familiar with the Single Cell Theory, but I don't think Darwin's ideas covered the origin of life, just the 'origin of species', like the Theory of Evolution, only cover the development of life, once life began.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • snowboarder

      violin – creationism and ID are two forms of the same "god did it" and is not a scientific theory, but simply a mythology.

      evolution is a scientific theory for speciation and not the origin of life. darwinism is the theory of evolution.

      so far you have only listed one theory.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • snowboarder

      violin – you forgot to mention the myriad of other religious origin "theories". of course they should get equal billing if you would include creationism.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:46 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Violinmaker claims there are 4 theories of life on earth –

      1. Creationism. Creationism is not a theory. It is a religious myth. What you fail to understand is that in reality, there are over a thousand mutually exclusive creation myths. Yours is no more, nor no less special than any other.

      2. Intelligent Design. ID is also not a theory. It is simply Christian creationism in a new dress. It was started by the same fundiot nutters who were spànked by the courts for teaching creationism in school.

      3. Evolution. This the only scientifically valid they to explain the diversification of life on earth.

      4. Darwinism. No such thing. It seems like you confuse abiogenesis and "Darwinism". Abiogenesis is a completely different domain, studied by completely different people.

      November 30, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • Violinmaker

      So my point is that perhaps there is other forms of life out there. If you want to call it God or Aliens whatever, that might have seeded the earth with potential for life? Possible? Perhaps. Provable? not by today's scientific abilities. Think about what we know today versus just a couple of decades ago. Personally I don't believe in Creationism as generally accepted – that God created the Earth 6,000 years ago. But, why not allow for the idea that there might be some "Intelligent Designer". most of our scientific knowledge begins with an idea that someone wants to explore. Then we gather evidence and try to prove it through scientific means. I think calling Creationism and Intelligent design the same is incorrect. You can have intelligent design as part of Evolution. Think of a domino rally. You get to plan it out and set it up and then let it go. If you plan it out right, it works. over simplistic example? sure, but you get the point. Allow for the possibility.

      November 30, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
  11. palintwit

    My work here is nearly done. Thanks to me Obama has been re-elected, the teabaggers are on the run and Sarah Palin is no longer a household word. I have accomplished much and I am considering taking time off to write my memoirs.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • steelerguin

      Oh, and thanks for helping destroy our country.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Jimmy

      The TEA party would not exist without Obama's left wing agenda.
      Obama created the TEA party and it won't go away.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • PaddingtonPoohBear

      Jimmy, it's thanks to Fox "News" that the Tea Party exists they have you all worked up into a rage over NOTHING. Obama is the weakest Democrat I've ever seen, he's caved in so many times to the Republicans I'm beginning to think he actually IS a Republican. WEAK!

      And Fox News really is bad for the country – they quote out of context, exaggerate, and repeat their OPINIONS so many times that you people take it as fact. Wake UP!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
  12. Please Read with Open Mind..

    Quran says, (holy Islamic scripture)

    “Proclaim, He is the One and only GOD. The Absolute GOD. Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten. None equals Him." [112:1]

    “They even attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.” Quran [6:100]

    “The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.” Quran [3:59]

    ‘They said, "You have to be Jewish or Christian, to be guided." Say, "We follow the religion of Abraham – monotheism – he never was an idol worshiper." [2:135]

    God will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside God?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.[5:116]

    The Messiah, son of Mary is no more than a messenger like the messengers before him, and his mother was a saint. Both of them used to eat the food. Note how we explain the revelations for them, and note how they still deviate! [5:75]

    “No soul can carry the sins of another soul. If a soul that is loaded with sins implores another to bear part of its load, no other soul can carry any part of it, even if they were related. ... [35:18]

    It does not befit God that He begets a son, be He glorified. To have anything done, He simply says to it, "Be," and it is. [19:35]

    When My servants ask you about Me, I am always near. I answer their prayers when they pray to Me. The people shall respond to Me and believe in Me, in order to be guided. Quran [2:186]

    'Say, "We believe in God, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and all the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters." [2:136]

    Thanks for taking time to read my post. Please take a moment to clear your misconception by going to whyIslam org website.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • Bob


      November 30, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • ShannonCT

      Such nice scriptures from your evil, ancient death-cult. Now can you please quote the ones about the infidels burning in hell and having their skin constantly renewed so that the pain may continue through eternity.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • alientech

      I read with open mind but to read any 'holy scripture' and take it seriously is let the brain fall out of the open mind.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • Kris

      I believe. Thanks for reminding me. Peace.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
  13. sumday

    I never get how people can claim a strict 24 hr interpretation? It is not in there! It is as if these people either do not read their bible or do not understand/comprehend what is written in their bible. First and for most a day in the bible is described as a dark period followed by a light period- there is zero mention of time only a sequence of events- dark-light. Second the sun is not mentioned as being created until the 3rd day, so a 24 hr day period could not possibly be considered before the sun was created. And 3rdly it says G-d rested on the 7th day, but later in the bible G-d swears in his anger not to allow the Israelites in the dessert to enter into his rest, and Paul states that the Sabbath is a foreshadow of things to COME- meaning it has not happened yet! This means we are still in the 6th day of creation bc from the bible it's clear man has not entered or passed G-ds 7th day of creation. This is also why there appears 2 accounts of creation in Geneses- one from G-ds point of view of what he did in 7 dark/light cycles, and the second picking up from man's perspective concerning the 6th day. No where in the bible is it ever inferred that man has experienced or gone pass G-ds 7th day! Those who cling to 6,000yr old earth simple don't read or understand their bible.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
  14. My Dog is a jealous Dog

    Hey Bob,

    We put a Mezuzah on our door jam (we are not Jewish), and it does a good job of keeping the nut-jobs away.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • My Dog is a jealous Dog

      Sorry – meant to be a reply. But if you want to avoid missionaries, since we put it up – no Mormons, no Jehovah's Witnesses, no thumpers of any kind.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:17 pm |
  15. Bob C.

    The book of Genesis describes the big bang and the formation of the Earth remarkably well when compared with our scientific theories. The only thing that people get hung up on is that it says 6 days. But when you consider that people at the time the Bible was written had pre-K math and science skills, you're not going to get them to understand what a "billion" is. Or even what an "epoch" is. Or what "DNA" is or why women are not a different species but just a different gender than men. So the Bible simplifies things so people at that time could understand. Big deal. As parents, you do that all the time or outright lie about certain things just to comfort them and to get them to stop asking uncomfortable questions.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • ShannonCT

      Genesis still gets the ORDER all wrong. Even allowing for the stretching of "days" into "eras", Genesis is still disproved by the evidence.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • Josh

      and our PhDs still can't figure out how the pyramids and other wonders were built by such pre-K minds.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • Bill

      You take ridiculous apologism to a new level. The Bible is about as accurate and sophisticated in describing the origins of the Universe as "The Three Little Pigs" is in describing carniverous and herbivorious mammilian behavior.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • AJR

      Bob C. – to say or imply that people at the time of the bible had pre-k knowledge of science/math is wrong and disproven by the existence of the seven wonders of the ancient world. These were creations of incredibly grand scale that required incredible knowledge of both math and science. Most of those creations pre-date the Torrah and all of them pre-date the new testament.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
    • AJR

      While I do not subscribe to the creation theory – or really religion in general – there were some civilizations that had relatively advanced math/science skills. However, I agree with your post that the majority of the tribes of the jewish faith – i.e., those people who actually created the Torrah or old testament – were likely nomadic herders who had no such knowledge, and, thus simplified things as you mentioned.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm |
    • Primewonk

      Bob wrote, " The book of Genesis describes the big bang and the formation of the Earth remarkably well when compared with our scientific theories."

      No it doesn't. It gets the whole thing incredibly wrong. The earth was not created in the beginning. There was no visible light in the beginning. The earth was not created before any stars. There was no liquid water on the surface of the earth before the son. These was no land based vegetation on earth before the sun. The moon is not a light source. Birds did not exist before terrestrial animals. All humans did not descend from 1 breeding pair. Woman was not created from the rib of a man.

      Basically, anything your god could get wrong, he did get wrong.

      November 30, 2012 at 1:47 pm |
    • Bob C.

      While some people may have had "advanced" knowledge of math and science, the general population did not. The creation story is also geared towards them too.

      First there is nothing, then there is matter but no objects, then the suns were born creating light, then our water-only planet was born, then land appeared (as one giant mass at first, Pangaea), then the other animals, then man. Seems like roughly the right order to me. The "luminaries" could mean that the atmosphere finally got transparent enough to see the stars, or that it finally stopped being overcast and raining constantly. I'm not saying it's a perfect match, but the creation story could have been a lot more off than it is.

      Besides, the Christians just stole the creation story from the Babylonians. So blame them. 🙂

      November 30, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
  16. karlbaba

    According to Genisis, God didn't create the sun until day 4 so the idea that God created everything in 24 days is foolish, You need the sun for days to be 24 hours. It's just a metaphor

    November 30, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
    • ShannonCT

      And what does it say about the metaphor that Genesis claims that the earth was created before the sun, and that flowering plants were created before any sea or land creatures?

      November 30, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • David

      Adam and Eve may have been in the Garden of Eden for a few billion years before they ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and were kicked out. I rest my case!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:15 pm |
    • pockets

      Read the book Biblical Nonsense, its all in there.....you need look no further.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • Ry

      Also, due to the rotation rate of the earth, if we measure a day by one full rotation, it is generally slightly less than 24 hours, and can vary slightly if the rotation rate of the earth changes, which can happen with massive earthquakes.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • ShannonCT

      "Adam and Eve may have been in the Garden of Eden for a few billion years before they ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and were kicked out."

      Wow, so Adam and Eve changed from Australopithecus to H. erectus to H. ergaster to H. sapiens during their stay in the garden? Praise Jesus, it's a miracle!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
    • Loyal American

      So when did he create the moon and why do you need the sun to have a 24hour day? There are places on earth that don't see the sun for 6 months. With your theory those 6 months are actually only one day.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
  17. shackdelrio

    46% of Americans believe the Earth was created in the past 10,000 years.
    47% of Americans voted for Romney.

    Ignorance is bliss

    November 30, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Call me Bwana

      I wager two quid Mitt must be really proud.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • OverHere

      Ignorance is thinking that all of us that voted for Mitt follow a religion.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • keithe

      Huge numbers of african americans and hispanics believe in creationism. Few of them voted for Romney.

      Muslims believe in creationsim. Are you Islamophobic? Or is it ok for them, just wrong for Christians?

      If it makes you feel good to just imply that the half the country that voted for Romney is just a bunch of idiots, have at it. A lot of Republicans equally believe that the half that voted for Obama are just lazy people who want free stuff. Both are wrong. America has its share of idiots unfortunately but the GOP has no monopoly on them. Frankly, most people spouting off about "stupid" Christians know very little about the history or diversity of Christianity and Christian thought.

      November 30, 2012 at 1:02 pm |
  18. Dan

    I never did trust anyone who didn't believe that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. To say anything but, is questioning my intelligence.

    November 30, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • Call me Bwana

      What has trust to do with it? Insulting your intelligence might be a moot point, as your post reveals.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Michael

      I find it incredulous that anyone can think the world anything less than 4.5 billions years old. When someone tells me that mankind and Velociraptor existed concurrently, I have to laugh, although I try not to do it to their face. I groan when someone points to the human eye as proof of an intelligent design. If the human eye is so intelligently designed then why does it have so many flaws such as a blind spot or blood vessels IN FRONT of the light sensitive cells?
      "Better to keep your mouth closed and have people thiink you a fool than open it and remove all doubt."

      November 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
  19. Call me Bwana

    46% of Americans believe Earth is but a few thousands years old? This is amazing! How did you Yanks make it so far? My bet would be that most of that 46% resides in the Bible Belt or south of the Mason Dixon line. Yihaaaa! Pass another beer, Billy Bob!

    November 30, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Most of them do live in the south, but the number is also likely to be inflated due to the way the survey was conducted.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Violinmaker

      Hey there. Go easy on us Southerners. Remember there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • lets find a chippy

      The word is yeeeeeehaw, the southern town where I live has the highest percentage of PhD's in the entire US ... and the reason the US made it so far is because we are a cut-throat, striving culture... most Brits wouldn't last a work-week over here. Keep basing your opinions on the cowboy movies and American TV shows you watch. Cheers.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • Sam

      There are idiots everywhere, my friend.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:26 pm |
  20. hubert39

    Religions of the world. Having a religion is great.. as long as you don't take it serious. Having a favorite religion is like having a favorite sports team, or movie/tv star. Enjoy these things. But be open minded.
    Have a good day.

    November 30, 2012 at 11:59 am |
    • My Dog is a jealous Dog

      Having a religion is like having a penis. I don't care if you have one, you can be proud of it, you can even love it, but don't go waving it around in public, and don't try to shove it down my throat!

      November 30, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
    • Blue

      Out of curiosity...

      How did man arrive on this planet in your 'enlightened' view? Keep in mind there's not a single fossil linking man to some evolved primate or otherwise. Also, keep in mind that the three major religions – Christianity, Judaism, and Islam- hold a common core Abrahamic belief founded in the Old Testament.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
    • Blue

      I like to deal in the majors and not get caught up in minor trappings – whether religion, politics or otherwise, you're wise to stay on the majors and off the rhetoric.

      Here's the majors, so listen, learn, and plan accordingly for your place in this life or the next: 1) there is not a single fossil to evidence mankind's evolution from some so-called earlier form – so you either believe in our Creator, or Aliens, or you choose not to decide, and that is still a choice. 2) while many uninformed pundits – again by their own choosing and lack of initiative – get confused by the thousands of religious faiths, understand the following: don't get bogged down by the thousands of off-shoots, of the three major (by followers) religions in the world, being Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, all three subcribe to the same core Abrahamic (Old Testament) beliefs. So don't get caught up in thousands... at the high level... 3, and they have the same core beliefs.

      You do the math.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV


      "there's not a single fossil linking man to some evolved primate or otherwise"

      you're kidding right? There are hundreds of different homind fossils that are not h0mo sapiens.

      What's so special about the Abrahamic religions anyway?

      November 30, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
    • Saraswati


      "the three major (by followers) religions in the world, being Christianity, Judaism, and Islam"

      Christianity and Islam are major religions, bud Judaism is way down the list Hinduism is 3rd with almost a billion adherents.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:40 pm |
    • My Dog is a jealous Dog


      Ask a Jew about the afterlife. The three Abrahamic religions are not the same.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV


      you think Judiasm is a 'major religion', by the numbers?

      It's not even in the top 10!

      01. Christianity: ............................................. 2.1 billion
      02. Islam: ...................................................... 1.5 billion
      03. Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: .. 1.1 billion
      04. Hinduism: ................................................ 900 million
      05. Chinese traditional religion: ..................... 394 million
      06. Buddhism: ............................................... 376 million
      07. primal-indigenous: ................................... 300 million
      08. African Traditional & Diasporic: .............. 100 million
      09. Sikhism: .................................................... 23 million
      10. Juche: ...................................................... 19 million
      11. Spiritism: .................................................. 15 million
      12. Judaism: .................................................. 14 million
      13. Baha'i: ....................................................... 7 million
      14. Jainism: .................................................... 4.2 million
      15. Shinto: ...................................................... 4 million
      16. Cao Dai: .................................................... 4 million
      17. Zoroastrianism: ........................................ 2.6 million
      18. Tenrikyo: .................................................. 2 million
      19. Neo-Paganism: ........................................ 1 million
      20. Unitarian-Universalism: ............................ 800 thousand
      21. Rastafarianism: ........................................ 600 thousand
      22. Scientology: ............................................. 500 thousand


      November 30, 2012 at 12:50 pm |
    • ShannonCT

      It's amazing that a person as dense as Blue can still exist in this day and age.

      November 30, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
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