Catholic Notre Dame announces services for gay students
Mia Lillis says Notre Dame failed to provide a welcoming environment for gay students.
December 7th, 2012
12:27 PM ET

Catholic Notre Dame announces services for gay students

By Moni Basu, CNN

(CNN) – Mia Lillis knew that she was gay when she was 12. She felt lucky to attend a public high school in Austin, Texas, that was highly supportive and had a gay student alliance. Then she arrived at the University of Notre Dame.

She enrolled there because Notre Dame's reputation as a premier Catholic school appealed to her family. But from the very first day, Lillis was scared.

She searched for a gay and lesbian student organization. There was none. She sought out literature for gay students. Again, nothing.

"It gave me the impression that Notre Dame didn't care about queer students," said Lillis, 20. "It was pretty intimidating."

She went back in the closet. She even considered transferring. "I would say a lot of gay students think that way," she said.

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soundoff (188 Responses)
  1. CSX

    Hmmm, well I guess why not, all churches had services for adulters and fornicators. 🙂

    January 2, 2013 at 1:34 pm |
  2. Equalizer357

    Lets all welcome these freaks with our right soccer foot....

    December 11, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
  3. me too

    I'm a white male in his early 30's and I have a Jewish background in my family tree why don't they let me have my own service. Man Funk that people getting what ever they want since they are different.

    December 10, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
  4. Gerald

    A service for gays? Excorcism?

    December 10, 2012 at 10:43 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Such a great example of a loving Christian you are! I'm sure Jesus would be proud of you.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:47 am |
    • gerald

      Tum tum,
      But you don't believe in Jesus. So why do you violate your principles? Thought you guys were moral. Violating your principles is not moral.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
    • gerald

      It is in fact loving to perform excorcisms on those who practice hmsx. You in your loving way would give an alcoholic a bottle of whiskey four Christmass. I'll bet you give Christmas gifts tum tum the pilferers son.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • John

      Try it on the Pope first. Perhaps then the Pope will come out in support of a woman's right to use contraception! The Pope might even allow contraceptive use in other countries to fight disease.

      December 10, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • gerald

      What part of "be fruitful and multiply" and "blessed is the man who's quiver is full" ps 127 do you not understand. Yes, you want all women to be receptacles of men's master bation. Take the life giving part of it out and that is all s x is. Enjoy in this life. Eternity won't be much fun.

      December 10, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • gerald

      Contraceptives fight disease? John that's funny. That's exactly why people get disease. They use contraceptives, become addicted to s x and then continue with mulitple partners until they get a disease. Oh you ment condoms. Well John they are only 85 percent effective in preventing the transmission of s e m en accordin to the CDC. Kinda like playing russian roulette if you catch my drift. but you are wiser than the pope I guess. and 2000 years of Church teaching. Good luck with that.

      December 10, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
    • Huebert


      Have you ever actually had se.x? My wife is on birth control and se.x is still a hell of a lot more than masturbation, for both of us.

      December 10, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Dumfvck, what "principles" of mine am I violating? Why did a loving, omnipotent being neglect to give you a brain, Gerry?

      Really, you are so stupid it must make the angels cry.

      Addicted to s3x because one uses contraception? What color is the sky on your planet? Is everyone there as brainless as you are?

      December 10, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I call poe on gerald.

      December 10, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • gerald

      Tum, tum,

      How many times have you been punched in your life? Not near enough I can tell. Another coward hiding behind a keyboard. Bet you would cower like a beaten dog if we were face to face.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Well, gerald, seeing as Tom Tom is female, mind if I step in and volunteer ? Hero ?

      December 10, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
    • gerald

      Sorry Hubey,

      Why would I have never had s.ex? Kind of a silly comment with some underlying bigotry I guess.
      Your s.ex is for.nicat.ion and your wife is no better than a pros.ti.tute except she doesn't get paid. Have a nice day.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
    • gerald

      Ok, sure, I don't hit girls unless they are wearing glasses. You will do.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
    • midwest rail

      What a disingenuous hypocrite you are. You accuse a woman of being a coward for "hiding behind a keyboard", when in reality you are doing exactly the same. You wouldn't meet in public and you know it.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Gerald is the Elephant Man. He never appears in public without a bag over his head.

      What a fvcktard.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      So gerry, anytime one has s3x just for fun without the intention to procreate, one is just a who re?

      What's master bation then?

      December 10, 2012 at 6:47 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      I do think it's hilarious that gerry the puke thinks I haven't been punched enough in my life. I guess he resorts to that sort of thing when he can't get it up and actually answer the question. Impotent, huh, ger? I hear they have drugs for that now.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:49 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      "Bet you would cower like a beaten dog if we were face to face."

      It appears you've had that occur with many women, gerry. You know, there are plastic surgeons who can help the disfigured like you. I'll bet some would offer their services for free out of sympathy. Or pity.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:52 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Alas, our online "hero" gerald has fled the scene like the coward he is. I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:58 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      As am I, mid. As am I.

      But what can you expect of a poe?

      December 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • gerald

      Mid, hey dip sh.i.t I don't sit here 24/7 like you and tummy.

      December 11, 2012 at 10:52 am |
    • Gerald

      where did the insulting bee itch go?

      December 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Gerald

      Hey mid we are practically neighbors if you live in the midwest. Name the place and time s.h.it for brains.

      December 11, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Gerald

      Where did moron and morona go?

      December 12, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  5. Edward R Murrows

    These faqqots are taking over America. It's a war on Jesus, I tell you.

    December 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Trolling should never be this obvious – or boring.

      December 10, 2012 at 7:15 am |
  6. The Courts

    OK Adam and Adam/Eve and Eve fossils , anyone find thind them ?

    December 8, 2012 at 11:46 am |
    • Akira

      Anyone find Adam or Eve, period?

      December 8, 2012 at 1:03 pm |
    • sam stone

      my ex is named eve and she had a cousin named adam

      December 8, 2012 at 6:06 pm |
  7. pervert alert

    Lets make special allowances for qu eers. Qu eers the people that gave the world AIDS.

    December 8, 2012 at 6:53 am |
    • pervert alert

      Yeah let's give them marriage and let them have kidz . . oh c rap mom's dropped her pipe again, she's gonna burn down the trailer – i'll be back.

      December 8, 2012 at 8:36 am |
    • .

      "Qu eers the people that gave the world AIDS."

      Until recently, the origins of the HIV-2 virus had remained relatively unexplored. HIV-2 is thought to come from the SIV in Sooty Mangabeys rather than chimpanzees, but the crossover to humans is believed to have happened in a similar way (i.e. through the butchering and consumption of monkey meat). It is far rarer, significantly less infectious and progresses more slowly to AIDS than HIV-1. As a result, it infects far fewer people, and is mainly confined to a few countries in West Africa.

      In May 2003, a group of Belgian researchers published a report in Proceedings of the National Academy of Science. By analysing samples of the two different subtypes of HIV-2 (A and B) taken from infected individuals and SIV samples taken from sooty mangabeys, Dr Vandamme concluded that subtype A had passed into humans around 1940 and subtype B in 1945 (plus or minus 16 years or so). Her team of researchers also discovered that the virus had originated in Guinea-Bissau and that its spread was most likely precipitated by the independence war that took place in the country between 1963 and 1974 (Guinea-Bissau is a former Portuguese colony). Her theory was backed up by the fact that the first European cases of HIV-2 were discovered among Portuguese veterans of the war, many of whom had received blood transfusions or unsterile injections following injury, or had possibly had relationships with local women.

      Given the evidence we have already looked at, it seems highly likely that Africa was indeed the continent where the transfer of HIV to humans first occurred (monkeys from Asia and South America have never been found to have SIVs that could cause HIV in humans). In May 2006, the same group of researchers who first identified the Pan troglodytes troglodytes strain of SIVcpz, announced that they had narrowed down the location of this particular strain to wild chimpanzees found in the forests of Southern Cameroon . By analysing 599 samples of chimp droppings (P. T. troglodytes are a highly endangered and thus protected species that cannot be killed or captured for testing), the researchers were able to obtain 34 specimens that reacted to a standard HIV DNA test, 12 of which gave results that were virtually indistinguishable from the reactions created by human HIV. The researchers therefore concluded that the chimpanzees found in this area were highly likely the origin of both the pandemic Group M of HIV-1 and of the far rarer Group N. The exact origins of Group O however remain unknown.

      HIV Group N principally affects people living in South-central Cameroon, so it is not difficult to see how this outbreak started. Group M, the group that has caused the worldwide pandemic, was however first identified in Kinshasa, in the Democratic Repub lic of Con go. It is not entirely clear how it transferred from Cameroon to Kinshasa, but the most likely explanation is that an infected individual travelled south down the San gha river that runs through Southern Cam eroon to the River Con go and then on to Kin shasa, where the Group M epidemic probably began.

      Just as we do not know exactly who spread the virus from Cam eroon to Kin shasa, how the virus spread from Africa to America is also not entirely clear. However, recent evidence suggests that the virus may have arrived via the Cari bbean island of H aiti.

      December 8, 2012 at 10:08 am |
    • Bet

      Qu eers the people that gave the world AIDS.

      That is a lie and you know it.

      Troll harder, little troll.

      December 8, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • John

      Trash post.

      December 10, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • gerald

      perv, ummm a man and a man and a woman and a woman can't have kids. Have to adopt. Sorry. Can't do much about that.

      December 10, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  8. End Religion

    "I cannot figure out why it is that we drive on parkways yet park in driveways." – me

    December 8, 2012 at 1:47 am |
    • Al

      That sounds like something George Carlin would say.

      December 8, 2012 at 9:47 am |
    • lol??

      Inbreeding by royalty. They name streets after em.

      December 8, 2012 at 6:38 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Steven Wright circa 1994

      December 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
  9. Chad

    "I contend we are both conservatives, I just believe that one fewer societal behavior is proper than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible societal behaviors as being legitimate , you will understand why I dismiss your pet one(same sex marriage)." -Anon.

    December 7, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
    • Akira

      "You may believe it all you want to, as is your right; trying to legislate your religious beliefs into law is where you err." – Akira

      December 8, 2012 at 12:44 am |
    • Famous Quotes

      "Chad is a total nincompoop." Albert Einstein

      Saying that Chad is as dumb as a banana slug is an insult to banana slugs." Abraham Lincoln

      Chad makes perfect sense to me." Charles Manson

      There is no better "useful idiot" than Chad." Pat Robertson

      December 8, 2012 at 2:39 am |
    • midwest rail

      Typical disingenuous nonsense from Chad.

      December 8, 2012 at 8:21 am |
    • rick

      it's about equal rights, chad. deal with it

      December 8, 2012 at 8:35 am |
    • Akira

      This is the one that made me laugh the hardest:

      "Chad makes perfect sense to me.” Charles Manson

      December 8, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • MIKEY

      Chad actually makes a good point for anyone who wishes to think past the surface. Who gets to set standard. Someone says it is about 'equal rights' but what really is that? Who bestows a right upon us? We cannot even agree on that so...what is that abstract thing in practice. Like 'fairness' equal rights really can never be what we believe it to be. Chads point is a relatively simple one. Who sets the standard for human behavior such that one person can emphatically state there is a right or wrong way to behave? Some say God bestows rights upon us beyond human understanding, others believe humans do. If it is human creating what is right or wrong, then which human/s get to do that and when does it become written in stone that no human can ever change it. If it is God then which humans do we select to decipher Gods word? Unfortunately for Chad, he is approaching the subject from a deeper more cognitive level while others simply give way to their knee jerk reaction and jump right into name calling becasue they cannot fathom anything below the surface. Too bad. This could really be a cool conversation leading to perhaps a deeper understanding of each other and how we believe the world and what we come to accept and reject comes about. Such convesrations may allow us to disagree while being brought closer together. Instead, we make the chasm wider and those floundering in the casm remain there. Thanks for the post Chad.

      December 9, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
    • Saraswati

      "Chad makes perfect sense to me." Charles Manson


      Chad, let it go. It really doesn't make sense. I've explained it before and don't have the energy to retype it every time you post a variant of this "quote". If you want to explain yourself, do so with words, not cute pseudoquotes that really don't quite hit the mark.

      December 9, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @mikey, That kind of simplistic ethical relativism is a developmental stage which usually spans ages 17 to 20 or so. Most of us just aren't interested in playing college freshman. Of course your ethical system is dependent on your beliefs, but you can still question certain premises of another even if all of your premises don't line up. I know what my own ethical principles are (utilitarian) and I measure my own and the actions of others based on that. It is a choice. But that doesn't mean I don't take input from people with other ethical systems where my facts or logic may be askew.

      December 9, 2012 at 2:03 pm |
    • Akira

      Mikey, quite simply put, to deny a segment of our society basic civil rights enjoyed by everyone else in the US is just plain erroneous.
      One may believe as they please, but to try and legislate their beliefs into law is repugnant.
      There is a reason for the separation of church and state; if one wants to follow what they perceive as "God's laws", they certainly have that right; what they don't have the right to do is to force everyone else to follow God's laws...
      It is quite easy to dismiss another's rights when it doesn't directly affect the person doing the dismissing...for those who's rights are being violated, it is quite a different story.

      December 9, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
    • chipndale

      We dismiss you dismissal, lol.

      December 10, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
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