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My Take: No pressure, Mr. President
Author Eric Metaxas speaks alongside President Barack Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington in February.
December 10th, 2012
05:00 AM ET

My Take: No pressure, Mr. President

Editor's Note: Eric Metaxas is the author of "No Pressure, Mr. President! The Power Of True Belief In A Time Of Crisis: The National Prayer Breakfast Speech."

By Eric Metaxas, Special to CNN

(CNN)–Imagine that the president of the United States had to sit and listen to you for 30 minutes in a public setting. Imagine that he couldn't escape and had to endure whatever you said. If you disagreed with him politically, would you try to embarrass him? What would you say?

Well, this actually happened to me. A year ago I was invited to be the keynote speaker at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, an event attended by the president, first lady, vice president, and 3,500 other dignitaries. No one was more shocked at the invitation than I. Previous speakers include Mother Teresa, Tony Blair and Bono. No pressure.

By the way, I disagree with the president in some important ways. But as a Christian, God commands me to love those with whom I disagree, to treat them with civility and respect, as creatures made in God's image. That's a command, not a request or a suggestion. Again, no pressure.

In my speech I spoke about my heroes, William Wilberforce and Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Wilberforce's faith led him to fight for the Africans being enslaved by the British; Bonhoeffer's faith led him to fight for the Jews being persecuted by the Nazis. I used them as examples of people who passionately lived out their faith by standing up for their fellow human beings when most around them merely gave it lip service.

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I also joked around a lot, because as any of my friends will tell you, one of the ways I show love is by joking and teasing people.  Who said prayer breakfasts had to be boring?  At one point I said that George W. Bush had read my Bonhoeffer book, and then I glanced at President Obama and said "No pressure."  I'm glad he laughed!

Later in my speech, I talked specifically about the idea of loving our enemies. I said this was the test of real faith. Speaking to my fellow pro-lifers, I said that those of us who believe the unborn to be human beings must love those on the other side of that issue. I also said that those of us with a traditionally biblical view of sexuality are sometimes demonized as bigots, but we must love even those who call us bigots. I cited Wilberforce and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. as two men who took seriously God's command to love their enemies in the midst of the most serious political battles of their day.  They honored God in how they fought, and he honored them.

At the end of the breakfast the president told me he would read my book on Bonhoeffer, and Vice President Biden took my picture with the president. No kidding. It was an extraordinary day and I'm not telling the half of it.

President Barack Obama holds up a book given to him by author Eric Metaxas

But the reason I'm writing now is that during the past election I was disappointed to see the president's campaign utterly abandoning these ideals of treating your opponents as you yourself would wish to be treated. Good people with principled and profound convictions about when life begins were cynically demonized as "enemies of women."  Americans who had worked hard to build businesses, and who had given millions to charity and to the government, were denounced as fat-cats who weren't "paying their fair share" and whose wealth was ill-gotten gain.

These scorched-earth tactics were not presidential, much less Christian, and because the president openly professes a Christian faith, I feel I must speak about this.

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Of course many will dismiss campaign hardball rhetoric as "what works." This is to miss the point. What we say matters deeply, and how we say it matters deeply.  All of it has serious long-term consequences.  For all of us.

For one thing, our children are watching and listening. We tell them it's less important who wins or loses than how we play the game. Is there no truth to this at all? Do we not see that this behavior erodes faith in the very political process and in democracy itself? Do we not see that by doing this we encourage our opponents to do the same - and worse - the next time around?  Shouldn't we care about that?

Any victory won in an ugly way is somehow a tainted victory. In this case, the president has "won" a deeply divided nation, one that he - alas - has had a hand in dividing. Now what?

If he is to succeed in the tremendous challenges that lay ahead, he must repent of these tactics and must make amends with his opponents, if it's not too late.  Or else he will face gridlock and more gridlock.  He also must show the door to those who cynically encouraged this "winning is the only thing" behavior.

His legacy and America's future depend upon it. Many will be praying for him.

No pressure.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Eric Metaxas.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Barack Obama • Belief • Christianity • Church and state • Politics

soundoff (2,208 Responses)
  1. Vic

    Eric Metaxas; You're kidding me right? Your article started off so well until you started acting like the only BS bombshells thrown during the election were from the President. You can continue to live in your crack filled world of everyone is nice to each other BUT only when it serves your purpose and I'll continue to live in reality. You are an F-n idiot!!!! Waste of my time reading this article!!!!!

    December 10, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
  2. Rob

    Its very interesting that Mr. Metaxas takes Obama to taks for being un-Christian but fails to similarly castigate Republicans for running one of the most un-Christian campaigns in the history of politics. All he is doing is illustrating once again how hypocritical self-proclaimed men of faith are when it comes to choosing politial sides.

    December 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • tony

      The Republican Party has fully become a cargo cult for the rich in this life, and nothing else.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
  3. Doc Ock

    Really? Was this guy drinking when he wrote this? He sure seems to be looking at things through some beer goggles.

    December 10, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Saraswati

      There must be a word for that. Like "ideology goggles" but something that sounds better...

      December 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • paintpaintpaint

      He's a poor loser, and thinks God is on his 'side'. God would be horrified at the Republican's disdain of the poor, the sick, the elderly, the foreigners, the gay community, pretty much anyone who isn't 'them. This 'opinion' doesn't belong on CNN.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
    • Doc Ock

      "Republi-goggles"?

      December 10, 2012 at 10:14 pm |
  4. Rick Richards

    Yet another sore loser looking for someone or some behavior to blame besides the candidate losing ? Come on, while I agree with your principles, elections are not about treating your opposition with kindness or caring or compassion. What century do you live in? We haven't had civility in politics since Dwight D Eisenhower was President. All politicians are liars and the public is disgusted by them all, whether republican or democrat. It is sad, but your position / book is not going to change them or the parties.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • DC1973

      I wasn't the only one who thought the whole thing came off as a pathetic, "Buy my book! Two presidents read it!" ploy?

      Good.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      IKE!!! PROUD SUPPORTER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD (and President at the time) when it was founded, along with former President Truman.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
  5. John Diomitron

    The better question is this...WHAT WILL ELIJAH SAY? Not would...WILL!

    Now many of faith can discern the following...THE LORD JESUS IS COMING BUT WAS HERE!
    But many of faith can't discern what Jesus was explaining to His disciples...ELIJAH IS COMING BUT WAS HERE!
    Same analysis, same discernment! ELIJAH PREPARES THE WAY FOR THE LORD JESUS...AGAIN!

    Here is wisdom for you – – – How can a blind man say “I can see.” or restore his own sight? He can't! How can a broken branch say “I am a tree.” or graft itself back into the tree it was broken from? It can't! The one who restores is a Gentile and not a Jew. Surely you have heard it spoken in Romans 11:25 – “For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.”

    REPENT FOR THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD QUICKLY APPROACHES!

    I, John, must prophesy!

    December 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • sam

      Poopies.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • paintpaintpaint

      WHAT?

      December 10, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      JOHN, do you just up and VOMIT all over the table while other people are there eating? Your preaching this dribble has basically the same effect on me, (and other "nones" out there too, I imagine) Go crawl in a hole. You have "freedom OF religion" we DEMAND freedom FROM religion. (Yes, it's the 1st amendment.)

      December 10, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Dippy

      "drivel," not "dribble."

      December 10, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      I wrote "dribble" not "drivel" because of my "vomit" theme. "Drivel" is not the word for this lunacy.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
  6. DB

    What a pretentious, insufferable windbag.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • DC1973

      I just love the, "I love you even though you refuse to tolerate my intolerance" crowd. They're so sanctimonious.

      Of course, by "love" I mean "absolutely cannot stand".

      December 10, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
  7. Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

    sam's comments are making me giggle uncontrollably.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • sam

      I'm being extra mean today, I don't know why. I just want to snark until it cracks people up or they threaten to kill me, I'll happily take both.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Akira

      TT: me, too!
      Thanks, Sam!

      December 10, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • sam

      Don't encourage me, the dashed hopes of tomorrow's youth are at stake.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:12 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sorry, I have no sympathy for the dashed hopes of the "yutes." Let them suffer; it was good enough for us.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
    • sam

      Character building.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
  8. Civil Discussions

    Nietodarwin: I'm not attempting to defend the article. I'm also not trying to force my beliefs on anyone like so many on here are. I am not "deluded" with religion as you so charmingly phrased it. I have my own set of beliefs and moral system, but I also have the civility to respect others that I may disagree with. I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, I was just attempting to remind some of those commenting that they are influencing the younger generations and that just because they are posting profanity laced remarks anonymously does not mean that they are acceptable. Discussion is the goal of this site, not bullying.
    SickNTired: I'm sorry if my remarks appeared condescending to you. I was merely trying to remind some of these foul mouthed people that their rude remarks do not serve to validate their beliefs.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Are you daft? The "younger generation" isn't here, you idiot. They're not interested in this tripe. Get a clue.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:53 pm |
    • DC1973

      Lecturing your elders? You should be ashamed of yourself. Did your parents teach you nothing about respect?

      We might be dismissive. We might be rude. We might call each other all sorts of nasty names. But you know what, sweetie? We're the grown ups. It's one of the perks.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • sam

      You ARE new to the internet! Ok, rule:1: CNN comment forums are horrible places. Always. Most places you can find comments are horrible places. It should have taken you .07 seconds to realize this.

      Rule #2: You're not going to change anything by complaining and chastising. It's going to get you grief, drama llama.

      Rule #3: Stop pretending to be 16. No one buys it.

      Rule #34: There is porn of it. No exceptions.

      Universal rule: go find something else to do that doesn't make you aggro. Bye!

      December 10, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Luuuucy

      Oh, those wacky, foul mouthed adults! I wish someone could set them straight.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm |
    • mama k

      Well gosh sam, I started reading your reply and had to stop and put on that old song "Refections" to finish it by – "the world it, a bad place, a bad place, a terrible place to live . . . ."

      December 10, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      DC1973: Exactly. You're grownups. I'm simply trying to say that name calling doesn't prove points.

      Sam: Stop pretending to be 16? I actually am. Almost 17. I'm in Advanced Placement classes and I read CNN, Fox news, and MSNBC in my spare time, because I have had many good teachers who taught me the necessity of being informed. I'm not trying to change the world or anything stupid like that. I'm not naive. I also won't stay on here all night arguing since I have school in the morning. My whole point was to try to remind the people on here that just because you're being anonymous doesn't mean you should be a jerk.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Sam: And as for me being new to the internet, I was born in 1996. I don't know a world without it.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:09 pm |
    • sam

      Advanced placement...just like Kevin Tran from Supernatural! Hot damn, I am outclassed.

      Hold on, I gotta go swoon. I may actually have a case of the vapors. Someone bring me a mint julep out on the veranda, pls.

      Make sure you go to Yale, though, there's a guy a couple of comment pages back who will approve.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
    • huh?

      But Strange that no one taught you how to survive in it....

      December 10, 2012 at 10:13 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Sam: There you go again with your ad hominem statements. You've figured out I'm a southern girl? Great. You know what, I'd be happy to go to Yale. And as far as you making fun of my AP classes, I was just trying to explain to you why I'm so interested in sites like CNN. And I'm glad that you find my challenging myself with rigorous coursework to be so comedic. I'm not trying to say I'm smarter than anyone on this page. I just think that some people should try adopting some class.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • DC1973

      Sam! You brought up SPN and Kevin?

      You win. 🙂

      December 10, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • sam

      SPN RULES

      I don't know who I love more, Kevin or Mama Tran.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • sam

      @Civil: oh boy, that's defensive. Listen, be honest: the only reason you brought up AP courses is because you want to flash some academic cred, to lend yourself credibility, maybe to prove you belong anywhere.

      Good on you. Go get it. It's terrific on your college apps, but it doesn't mean anything in the real world, except that you have goals. Always admirable. But, it gets you nothing here, on a silly opinion article, where you are still trying too hard to place yourself above the foul mouthed adult rabble.

      I'm becoming vicariously embarassed for you. Stop while you're behind.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      sam nails it. You don't belong here, CD, regardless of your pretensions of maturity.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:40 pm |
    • sam

      You kids get off my lawn! ::shakes fist::

      December 10, 2012 at 10:57 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      laughing at sam.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:58 pm |
    • leadercraft

      ah, the perks of being grown up: profanity, rudeness, and belligerence. good thing we have an educated electorate – the keystone to civil society.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
    • sam

      Lucky for leadercraft that we suffer fools in this society so well...kindness and patience are needed for unfortunates.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
  9. TSS

    wow – how come you don't criticize the republicans for calling the president just about everything under the sun (unamerican, socialist, kenyan, muslim, liar, ni**er). I guess you think he should not rock the boat for rich folks and "christians" like yourself. HOW HYPOCRITICAL CAN YOU GET ???? Go back to faux news with your next line of BS.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • DB

      You're wasting your time. If you could actually ask him, he would evade the question by saying Obama should turn the other cheek.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
  10. DC1973

    You're such a polite bigot, Mr. Metaxas. It's such a shame that you're still just a bigot.

    As for the rest of the article: it's a load of bunk, sir, and I believe you know that. Now, with that said – who are you, and why should I care what you say?

    December 10, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      YES, this!

      December 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
  11. Stone

    How much more biased could you possibly get? Not a single example of how divisive and downright un-Christian the Republicans were in this election? Spare me. Pure, unadulterated tripe.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
  12. Christina

    What a sanctimonious pile of something. Judge not lest ye be judged, hypocrite.

    This is a silly article. Turn the other cheek? Obama bent over backwards, while the GOP slung mud at him. He has a right to self-defense.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:43 pm |
    • LinCA

      It's OK to say "bullshit"

      December 10, 2012 at 9:44 pm |
    • Christina

      LOL good point

      December 10, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • Saraswati

      All he had to do to not look like such an ass was to say something as simple as "Of course the errors were on both sides, but as President Obama is now in office..." and then he could have gone on to rip at Obama like he wanted. Without even that acknowledgement he just comes off looking like a biased fool.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • sam

      @Saraswati – I agree. He had plenty of opportunities to take the actual high road (instead of the high and mighty road) and he kept missing the exit.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
  13. shell hare

    let he who has no sin cast the first stone. I am waiting...

    December 10, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • LinCA

      I am without sin, but I prefer not to throw stones.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • leadercraft

      talk about sanctimonious LIN CA

      December 10, 2012 at 11:04 pm |
    • LinCA

      @leadercraft

      You said, "talk about sanctimonious"
      Sin is a religious concept. Sin is a violation of a religious rule or law. There is no sin in secular law. Sin is reserved exclusively for those that follow a religion. Those that don't are incapable of sin.

      December 11, 2012 at 2:41 am |
  14. Nietodarwin

    Fun to read these comments. Many from moderate GOP people, and christian people, still condemn the hypocrisy of this article.
    Those of us who are neither far outnumber the rest, and those who DO support the article are just babbling. I don't want a one party system, but the GOP is just crumbling before our eyes. As long as we live in a wired in world, where the religious can't murder to prove their love of god, the religious will continue to decline, and things might get better.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • Siara Delyn

      I wish CNN had "like" buttons. Thank you Nietodarwin.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:33 pm |
    • sam

      They can't survive the way they are. They'll have to back off the evangelical tear they've been on and admit it wasn't the right path. In doing so just to survive, they'll end up looking like even bigger hypocrites. It's going to be tough for them for a while.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Just call me Lucifer

      Impressive young skywalker... the force is strong within you.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Saraswati

      The system in the US is structurally set up to support two parties, no more, no less. If the GOP disappears, another party will take its place, once again dividing the vote at roughly 50/50.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • sam

      I wonder who would fill the gap. I think it would have to be an entirely new beast.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @sam, I think it's a really interesting question who will fill the gap if the Republican party shatters. We might well just get parties that are very economically split, like in the UK. It's also possible that a new labor movement could cause what we see as the left to become the anti-immigration party (the Dems have generally had a tighter immigration policy in their reign anyway) which would again shake things up. But the social and economic conservatives definitely don't seem to be good bedfellows anymore.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • sam

      @Saraswati – that would really be an amazing (if likely unsettling) process to watch in this lifetime.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:53 pm |
  15. A Lincoln VI

    News flash, Mr. Metaxas, Obama is neither a Christian nor a real democrat (i.e., a believer in democracy) and definitely not an American. His politics have proven him to be a communist, his book has shown him to be a racist, and his own words have revealed him to be a muslim. Your naivete in expecting anything like honorable, christian or dignified behavior from the sorriest president in American history is sad. Get over it.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • mama k

      Stuff it, Trump and get back in your hole.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:30 pm |
    • Siara Delyn

      ... and furthermore, he tortures puppies in the Rose Garden.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • sam

      Yawn

      December 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm |
    • Akira

      You mad, bro?

      December 10, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • sam

      I heard he wanders around DC at night, performing random abortions.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
    • End Religion

      In the wake of Bush's devastation of this country, only Obama could have turned the ship around:
      http://www.zillow.com/blog/research/2012/11/20/october-marks-12th-consecutive-month-of-national-home-value-increases/

      December 10, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • DE

      The economy is improving (capitalist economy by the way), corporate profits are at record highs, the stock market has gained over 4,000 points since his election, so how is it that he is a communist? Do you even know what communism is? He goes to a christian church but is not a christian? And you are so ignorant that you STILL believe the discredited belief that he is a muslim. You are the naive one and you need to get aquainted with reality. You are the racist.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      Guys like you say asinine things to get attention. Just admit you don't want a black president. We wont waste our time replying to you. Please leave the blog for a real debate. Why don't you go over to Faux News so they can continue to flush your brain with nonsense.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Lsteel

      What a weird idea–a person can't be both a Muslim and an American? Your dichotomies are just odd.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      sam made me laugh hysterically.

      Really, you idiots who demonize Obama are a hoot. In another era, you'd have been the ones railing at FDR, calling him a socialist or a Communist. How silly you look!

      December 10, 2012 at 9:47 pm |
    • sam

      Fish in a barell, I tell ya.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sam, you're crackin' me up.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
    • leadercraft

      Comic lemmings are hot tonight.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:06 pm |
  16. mtnorwaymommy

    Eric, you always make us think and spur us on to something better. Thanks again, for your work, your writing, your shared faith, and your gift of communication. I just finished reading Bonhoeffer yesterday.....So worth the time, and a great reminder to speak the truth. Something you do with grace and wit.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
  17. Civil Discussions

    As a member of the younger generation, I am highly disappointed by the myriad of name calling and rude remarks in response to this article. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am assuming that the majority of y'all are not in high school. However, many of you are demonstrating highly underdeveloped response mechanisms i.e. resorting to name calling and other types of personal insults. Rather than this type of unproductive "discussion," why don't we all attempt to express our opinions in a more mature manner? Try setting an intelligent example for future generations.
    Sincerely,
    A Sixteen Year Old Girl Whose Peers Are Far More Mature Than the Majority of You

    December 10, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • sam

      Aw shit, the politeness police are here.

      Normally I'd agree with you, but you came off a little too holier than thou. Gonna have to ask you to blow me.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm |
    • mama k

      Oh sam,you gave mama a hot flash. My goodness!

      December 10, 2012 at 9:34 pm |
    • sam

      LOL

      December 10, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Sam, asking me to "blow" you might be a bit inappropriate considering that I'm 16...... I'm not trying to seem as though I think I'm "holier than thou." I just think it's ridiculous that adults resort to such vile name calling. It doesn't prove their points.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • thoughtnothing

      wow, you give me faith in the next generation. I have lost all in the current generations' ability to use the anonymity of the Internet for anythng other than showing their a$$es with impugnity.

      Please tell your parents they have done a wonderful job, and you stick to the moral high ground!! It does matter that morals, ethics, common sense and self control remain a part of the fabric of the individual.

      Without those qualities of character, the social fabric will unravel completely, and then we truly will be lost.

      Best wishes to you in all your future endeavors.

      Your new 'anonymous' fan:)

      December 10, 2012 at 9:39 pm |
    • Nietodarwin

      Point taken, but if you are defending this article and its hypocrisy, or the lies, lack of evidence, and hypocrisy of christianity, (and Islam and some other religions) then you don't have a leg to stand on. We "nones" are sick up to here with the harm religion is doing to our country. If you're 16, go google some atheist quotes, go to brainyquote.com and learn what smarter folks than those on here (myself included) have to say, (that's about any topic, very fun site full of wisdom.) You have a good vocabulary, sure hope you are not deluded with religion. (I still was at your age, but education and civility made me an atheist.) You can also go to FFRF.org and read about people your age pushing back against the horrible and illegal effect of religion in our public (and SECULAR) schools.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • SickNTired

      More mature than the rest of us? Hmmm...you seem as equally judgemental of others as you accuse everyone else of being. And signing with a such a condescending remark makes you look every bit of your sixteen year maturity level.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Siara Delyn

      QUOTE: " Try setting an intelligent example for future generations."

      Sorry. I'm afraid you folks will have to fend for yourselves.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Christina

      If you are 16, you are procrastinating. Go do your homework, and let adults tend to politics.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:45 pm |
    • Akira

      Lol.
      And I'm your mother.
      Get off my computer and do your homework.

      Signed, a woman who doesn't believe your bullsh!t, y'all.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:46 pm |
    • sam

      16 and wandering around the belief blog opinion section on a Monday night...doling out trite, chastising idioms. Are you new to the internet? Did you even read the article? Then discuss the article. Otherwise, no one cares what you find inappropriate.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:49 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      Do the peers you speak of walk around with their pants around their thighs? What about the other peers that wear skirts slightly larger than a postage stamp? Speak for yourself only. Do you or don't you agree with the article? If you're going to sit at the table, bring something you can eat with.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Ken is wise.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:55 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Nietodarwin: I'm not attempting to defend the article. I'm also not trying to force my beliefs on anyone like so many on here are. I am not "deluded" with religion as you so charmingly phrased it. I have my own set of beliefs and moral system, but I also have the civility to respect others that I may disagree with. I have no problem with people expressing their opinions, I was just attempting to remind some of those commenting that they are influencing the younger generations and that just because they are posting profanity laced remarks anonymously does not mean that they are acceptable. Discussion is the goal of this site, not bullying.
      SickNTired: I'm sorry if my remarks appeared condescending to you. I was merely trying to remind some of these foul mouthed people that their rude remarks do not serve to validate their beliefs
      Christina: I already did my homework, but thank you for your concern. And just so you know, politics should concern EVERY American citizen, myself included, since the decisions that the government makes now will affect everyone's (including my) future. I won't automatically become concerned with politics when I turn 18 and can legally vote.
      Ken Margo: Personally, I found the article to be intentionally inflammatory. Metaxas is simply trying to chastise Obama in a back handed way, and he uses the Bible as a cover for attacking the President.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:57 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Christina: I already did my homework, but thank you for your concern. And just so you know, politics should concern EVERY American citizen, myself included, since the decisions that the government makes now will affect everyone's (including my) future. I won't automatically become concerned with politics when I turn 18 and can legally vote.

      Ken Margo: Personally, I found the article to be intentionally inflammatory. Metaxas is simply trying to chastise Obama in a back handed way, and he uses the Bible as a cover for attacking the President.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
    • Observer

      Civil Discussions,

      Yes, you are showing up some of the adults on here. As long as someone is respectful to others, they deseve the same consideration. The Golden Rule should apply to believers and non-believers equally.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:04 pm |
    • Observer

      typo: should be "deserve"

      December 10, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
    • sam

      I agree with Observer even if I'm acting like an asshat. Had you come in with an opinion, stated with the kind of logic you're obviously capable of expressing, there would have been a response in kind. Coming in just to be outraged and poke the bear, though, is always going to get BS started in a comment section. Unless it's strictly family-oriented and moderated. Then not so much.

      Introducing yourself by burning the bridge when you're not even halfway across is just not civil discourse.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You little poser, you're not 16. You're a liar.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      @civil.....................This blog is a small sample of the real world you'll have to deal with when you are finished with school. Some are nice, some are nasty. We all have to deal with it. Have thick skin, get more than one opinion deal with reality and make the best decisions for you.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Sam: Thank you, but the prevalent use of an ad hominem style isn't very civil either. I know that very few would agree with my beliefs on the matter, anyways. Trust me, it would be much more inflammatory.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      And please, Observer and sam, are you out of your minds? This is no 16-year-old. Don't be stupid.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:23 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Poe. Big time.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son: Would you like to add me on facebook or something to prove it? (FYI, that's sarcasm.) I don't truly care whether you believe my age or not, but tell me why you don't believe it?

      Ken Margo: Thanks for the advice. I have very tough skin, though.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      @Tom Tom................What gives away her age? I don't want to call her liar since I cant prove it.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:27 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      No. I don't "do" crap like Facebook, honey, and you're no more sixteen than I am. Knock off the charade.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      For all of you who don't believe I'm 16 (don't bother messaging or adding me though) https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.a.miles

      December 10, 2012 at 10:28 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You think that proves something, dear? I hate to break it to you, but anyone can pose as anything they wish on Facebook or any other site. You're a fraud.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:29 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      If you can't figure out that this little dip isn't 16, you don't know 16-year-olds. I do.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Tom: Yeah, I'm a fraud who has tons of pictures of herself with friends that all go to the same high school as her. Makes a lot of sense.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Tom: Why exactly can't I be 16? What would prove it?

      December 10, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Sure you do. I copied your post and it came up as a dud. Get real, dear. You're not fooling anyone.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • sam

      NO

      NOOOOOO

      WHAT WERE YOU THINKING OH SHIT

      Never never never post your real info, oh no. Everyone hit the 'report abuse' link on this, I think it works again. Get rid of this. GOD you have the survival instincts of A LEMMING.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • Observer

      Civil Discussions

      Some advice: it's probably not a good idea to give out too much personal information. There are wackos on here from all sides.

      Now you are sounding like you are 16. 🙂

      December 10, 2012 at 10:32 pm |
    • Saraswati

      I have no idea how old this CD is, but I know a 15 yr old girl who sounds quite a bit like this commenter. In favor of it's being true, the youthful naiveté of thinking a public discussion forum with ever be quality debate is common among the more ideological of that age. Nice idea; not going to happen. Against it being true is the oddity of describing oneself as a "16 year old girl". But I don't really like to doubt anyone's descriptions of themselves online. Since you really can't know, it's best just to take people at face value.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      @Tom Tom.....................I have a 18 and 14 year old. If I average it out. I should be able to tell 🙂 I wouldn't go on Facebook to check anyway. How would that look to my wife?

      December 10, 2012 at 10:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      This content is currently unavailable

      That's what comes up, honey, when I try to access your supposed Facebook site.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Sam: Thanks for your concern, but I'm not really fearing for my life right now.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:34 pm |
    • sam

      Even if it's not really yours, don't post people's stuff on here...what the hell is wrong with you?

      December 10, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Go ahead, click on her address and see what you get.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Just search Elizabeth Anne Miles on facebook then. I don't even care

      December 10, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
    • sam

      @Tom Tom – it works for me. She's posted someone's FB. Not the brightest bulb.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      You might be 16. You are, for sure, extremely naive.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Not the brightest bulb is a HUGE understatement.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      Take a chill pill. It's facebook, not my social security number guys

      December 10, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      @Civil.......................We are all "hiding" here. If you cant be anonymous in a blog how can anyone take what you say seriously. This is the perfect venue to speak your mind good or bad. So let's hear it and stop wasting time.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
    • Civil Discussions

      @Ken Margo:: If it's worth saying, it's worth putting your name to it. Anonymity is for cowards.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • sam

      I give up. Ad hominem is all you deserve. You're dumb as the south side of a pony heading north.

      Don't ever vote. Or breed.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Then why bother with your moniker, dear? Use your real name. And if you don't like the tone of the discussions here, leave. No one invited you and no one requires your approval.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      If you are so stupid that you would post your real name here, you're too dumb to take seriously.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      COWARD? ......................Have you seen how many people have lost their jobs for stuff posted on the internet? The truth wins out all the time no matter the name or who says it. You are 16 if you truly believe that being anonymous is for cowards.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
    • sam

      Nothing but a silly little girl (or a poser weirdo) looking for attention....

      Lots of idealistic bravado, no sense. The former without the latter spells imminent disaster. Good rubbernecking opportunity, though. Oh, and keep up that smug front. It would serve you better as actual self confidence instead of the facade it is, but, I know beggars can't be choosers.

      Good luck. Hope I don't see you splashed across the news as the next tragedy du jour.

      And I hope the person you've screwed by posting their info forgives you for whatever comes down the pike.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:56 pm |
    • Ken Margo

      A damn shame.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm |
  18. YeahRight

    Lin Ca has overdosed on SSRI's. ssristories.com

    December 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • sam

      ?? Not sure what you're trying to get at...unless that's some kind of insult in your village.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
  19. justpaul

    This president preys on those willing to grant him the kind of consideration he has never granted to others.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:20 pm |
    • sam

      Translation: "I make strange, cryptic generalizations that are baseless but rooted in some vague discontent I have."

      December 10, 2012 at 9:22 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      In other words, the cat that couldn't manage the coup de grace deserves its fate.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • Akira

      What utter bullsh!t.
      He was obstructed from the time Roberts tried to deliberately fvck up the Oath at his inauguration on...

      December 10, 2012 at 9:25 pm |
    • Siara Delyn

      Typical generalized, hyper-emotional, hard-right bs. Justpaul.... you guys spent the last four years pretending that everything Obama did was bad.... he got re-elected anyway.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:37 pm |
  20. YeahRight

    WordPress checks for curse words and such before your comment is allowed to post.
    After your comment is posted, if the CNN moderator on duty doesn't agree with you, she deletes your comment.
    I assume "she", b/c I've never known of a male moderator. I'm sure there must be some men who do this sort of thing for a living, I've just never known of any. (besides US federal judges and their gag orders, acourse)

    December 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • LinCA

      The following words or word fragments will get your post censored (list is incomplete):
            arse             as in Arsenal
            bastard
            bitch
            clit
            cock           as in cockatiel
            coon           as in cocoon
            cracker
            cum             as in circumstance
            cunt
            douche
            effing
            fag
            ftw
            fuck
            goddamn
            homo         as in homosexual
            hooters
            horny
            hump
            jackass
            jap
            jism
            kinky
            kooch
            necrophilia
            nipple
            nigger
            orgy
            pis
            poon           as in spooked
            porn
            prick
            queer
            rape         as in grape
            sex           as in homosexual
            shit
            slut
            smut
            snatch
            spic         as in despicable
            tit               as in constitution or title
            twat
            vag           as in vague
            whore
            wonderful us
            wop
            wtf

      To circumvent the filters you can break up the words by putting an extra character in, like: consti.tution (breaking the oh so naughty "tit").

      December 10, 2012 at 9:19 pm |
    • Akira

      What fvckery is this?

      December 10, 2012 at 9:21 pm |
    • sam

      There are no mods. No one cares enough.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • zimbo zambo

      I really wish CNN would post what you just wrote above every message board.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • zimbo zambo

      fuc king co on nip ples.

      Hey it worked!

      December 10, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
    • sam

      LOL

      December 10, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • Dippy

      Fucking coon nipples.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
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