December 10th, 2012
10:27 AM ET

New Mormon site reaches out to gays

(CNN)–CNN's Susan Hendricks discusses MormonsAndGays.org and the shift in the Mormon church with a current & former Mormon.

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  1. Hmmmm

    @apple bush

    Do you mind if I ask what you do for a living? I notice that you're on here every day and post at all hours. I'm merely curious as to what your profession is and how you can allocate so much time to this site. Thanks!

    December 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm |
    • Lmao

      He prob wont respond until he can make something up. He's most likely one of the following:

      1) an adult who lives with his parents; or
      2) a kid in school

      December 10, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      I answered you both next page.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm |
  2. I pity you

    The fact that 80%-90% of the comments are consistently by atheists is more telling than anything else.....

    December 10, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from "divinity".

      Pity yourself. "Telling" of what ? Sorry, the world is changing. Get over it.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Is there a punch line?

      December 10, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
    • I pity you

      Not surprised u don't get it...

      December 10, 2012 at 11:18 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      I guess pity is saying that atheists should be homophobes like Mormons?

      December 10, 2012 at 11:21 pm |
  3. Tom, Tom, the Other One

    Shouldn't gays reach out to Mormons instead? Tell them to give up that white bread, artificially sweetened fiction of a religion and learn to live among the rest of us. Perhaps some instruction on condom use is in order... Do Mormons know about condoms? Maybe I'm thinking of that other sect that's run by flocks of strange celibate men who inhale too much resin smoke and chase after young boys. Doesn't matter, really. Life is what happens when you're irreligious.

    December 10, 2012 at 10:51 pm |
  4. the AnViL

    for those of you who understand the concept of equality – and understand the efforts of the mormon church to nullify it in a demographic that they do not agree with in california – please take a few minutes and visit:

    http://www.t h e p e t i t i o n s i t e .com/1/review-the-501c3-status-of-the-church-of-latter-day-saints-the-mormons/

    sign the pet ition to review the lds church tax-exempt status.


    December 10, 2012 at 9:52 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      I live in California and I can tell that the campaign was as underhanded and deceitful as any you will ever see. The commercials were deceptive and the proposition itself was confusing for many and caused many voters to vote the opposite of the way they intended. That was the Mormon Church’s objective and it worked.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
  5. Apple Bush

    It is perfectly ok for you to be Gay as long as you are not. Welcome brother.

    December 10, 2012 at 9:48 pm |
    • Ronnie Harper

      That's exactly what the website says, in its entirety.

      December 11, 2012 at 3:31 am |
  6. fernace

    Sorry to be a pessimist! The only reason Mormons are "reaching out" to gays is because they a) want to spread their religion, b) they're certain their "conversion therapy" will work! We were created the way God meant us to be! Please don't give me the arguement that God made pedophiles & murderers ,too & they go to prison! I'm talking about law abiding people! If gayness was so wrong, God should have put it in a commandment!!

    December 10, 2012 at 9:17 pm |
    • Akira

      You're not being a pessimist, fernace; you're spot on.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:28 pm |
    • lionlylamb


      “The world is awash in many unbalanced and emotionally insecure creeds; therefore keeping a handle upon them is yes the Christian thing to do. Our world is nowadays in dire needs to tie up the many and if religion is a way then, so be it! Imagine if you will a world without religion. Just exactly how could we have come along till now if not for religious degradations laments? Why throw religion out the window just because one sees only barely passed one's own nose? In my repenting way, I do so see the national needs for religions for they are people's emotional helper to get them thru their days of ill wills nurturing inside them. My Christian belief for remaining a 'closet Christian' is right for me but for the many who cannot single mindedly see their way thru, I guess church is their only means to find a days’ worth of emotion-based freedoms thru the church.”

      December 10, 2012 at 9:56 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      lionlylamb Translation:

      Let it be, let it be, let it be, yeah, let it be.

      December 10, 2012 at 10:10 pm |
  7. Apple Bush

    Where is God hiding and why?

    December 10, 2012 at 8:13 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      that old queen is working a drag show on sunset blvd. in hollywood. pretty sure 'she' goes by the name "BJ Divine".

      December 10, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Ah, I think I saw her standing outside the Pantages scalping tickets for "Book of Mormon".

      December 10, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
    • .

      Apple, God's not hiding ... all those that seek him, find him.


      December 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm |
    • Akira

      I thought Divine croaked years ago.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:32 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      Thanks "." , but we found her in Hollywood.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:50 pm |
  8. SAm Yaza


    December 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • SAm Yaza

      their you go .

      December 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm |
    • SAm Yaza

      and now to balance out that crap


      December 10, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  9. .


    December 10, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
  10. GodFreeNow

    I guess they're still wanting to run Romney in 2016

    December 10, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
  11. SAm Yaza

    their are other gods out their and other faiths just live Christ and Yahweh and go to some one that excepts you for you you are. problem solved, if you love Christ and his tyrant of a father then be prepared to live you life hated by him, hes kind of a di any ways, and if you want to stay that's your fault the door is open, stay were your sad and suicidal or see he brighter picture

    December 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm |
  12. Mormons: Hi, we think you are fundamentally flawed and your feelings of love are an abomination. But we love you! Will you be our friend?

    uhhhhhhhhhhhh......how about, no, fuck off?

    December 10, 2012 at 6:43 pm |
    • Saraswati

      What's so funny, is that they really don't get how offensive this is. In a slightly more toned down, but quite realistic context, one might say to a Mormon, "I think your adherents are the most gullible group of religious believers, quite likely genetically so, and that your beliefs are harmful to society. I'd like to spend a good deal of time working with you on changing that. I really do love you. Want to hang out and be friends?" Gee...how many takers would we get?

      December 10, 2012 at 9:38 pm |
  13. Yeah

    The new "mormonsandgays.org" website hopes to have its first click by the end of the year.

    In other news, the "Let'sJustForgetThatGodLetOurMormonCandidateLoseBadly,Yeah,Let'sJustPretendItNeverHappenedAndThatGodOnlyLovesMormons.org" website is a smashing success.

    December 10, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  14. Apple Bush

    Wow, the Mormons have taken Gay bashing to a whole new level.

    December 10, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  15. lionlylamb

    Lionlylamb wrote on December 10, 2012 at 12:30 pm, “In God all things are made. Of God are all things made to be manifested in God. By God are all manifested things made of God to ever be in God a manifestation for God's pleasure. For God are all things made manifested in God to ever be done by the graces of God's will to be had in and of and by and ever to be for Godliness intentions.”

    In rebuke of others, lionlylamb states, “The celestial heavens being but more than our universal perceptions of just one universe has in its’ holdings multiple cosmos (plural) of innumerable treasures of unlimited universes in great abundances. Nothingness itself is the Holy Spirit of God which holds all things in the Nothingness of its’ seasoned wealth; all manifestations great and also smallness of things yet unknowable to human kind’s psyche. Therefore, In God’s Holy Spirit of Nothingness all things are made and made to be manifested in his Holy Spirit’s Nothingness for God’s pleasures and God’s intentions done by the graces of Godly done deeds”!

    December 10, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      lionlylamb Translation: God is purveyer over all things great and small. Reality is complex and is both very big and very small.

      December 10, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Apple Bush is a great Seer of the Godly Seas where all manifestations are found in abundances measuring unknown by many and yet this great Seer A.B. does nary naught the lame lion who dares instill the thoughts of Godliness measuring. Maybe there is hope yet for the common peasantries of the netted masses to dwell upon God and his Holy Spirit of Nothingness Seas and lakes and rivers and streaming creeks from afar off toward the innermost reaches in all matters' depths!

      December 10, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      lionlylamb Translator:

      Can you see the light? CAN YOU SEE THE LIGHT?

      December 10, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • '

      Deuteronomy 11:22 For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;

      December 10, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within/inside you.

      1Corinthians 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, [ye are] God's building.

      December 10, 2012 at 9:08 pm |
  16. Pedro

    Mormons are just like Muslims, you can have multiple wives, you can't drink, Joseph smith made up his own book just like Mohammad made his own book. Mormons are also like atheist. A black person could not be in the priesthood and the atheists believed that the civilized races would exterminate and replace the s@v@ge races.

    December 10, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      You're conflating atheism with eugenics.
      The prefix "A" = leack of
      Theism = belief in gods.
      A + Theism = lack of belief in gods. Nothing more and nothing less.
      Atheism is a negative label in that it only describes what one doesn't believe.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
    • Saraswati

      First, The LDS church hasn't allowed polygamy for over 100 years. Second, wrt atheists, they have no beliefs as a group regarding races at all. That's like talking about what the Republican's believe about who's the best football team...irrelevant.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:29 pm |
    • Pedro

      Saraswati, you have never read Darwin's book.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @Pedro, Atheism isn't a religion with Darwinas its Lord. You are really confused. There were atheists long before Darwin and long after Darwin. There are buddhist atheists and atheists who couldn't give less of a crap about Darwin Additionally, there are millions of Christians, Muslims, Jews and Hindus who believe most of what Darwin says. No modern thinker, theist or atheist, agrees with everything Darwin said, and no thought system I know of takes his word as gospel.

      For the record, btw, Darwin trained for the clergy and was still devoutly religious when on the Beagle.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      The exact quote from Darwin's "Descent of Man" is as follows:
      "At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the sav.age races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian"

      This view was the common one in the Victorian era – and one must bear in mind that the Irish were also considered a "sav.age race".

      December 10, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • EnjaySea

      This savage race argument, is Pedro's only remaining argument against evolution.

      Keep in mind Pedro, that evolution was operating on earth for a few billion years before Darwin ever existed, and will continue until long after there are no people left to not believe in it.

      Darwin didn't invent evolution. He only studied it. His personal opinions have no bearing whatsoever on whether or not the process of evolution adequately describes the progression of life on earth.

      December 10, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
    • there is no other truth but truth absolute, and truth absolute is LORD AND GOD OF THE WORLD.

      Every thing hindu, negative is forbidden by truth of Islam, and every hindu crook hind's steals from teachings of Islam and preaches his hinduism, illegality as truth to hind, fool humanity. hindu crock smith is not any different, Just another hindu sanatan crock goon preaching hindu Mithra ism, pagan savior ism, under a new label. A hind, crime against truth absolute GOD and HIS humanity.

      December 10, 2012 at 6:26 pm |
    • Mohammad A Dar

      hello savior ism! what are you planning on destroying tonight? Do you mind reaching out to gays, your friends, through your limitisthetruth.com site?

      December 10, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
  17. Primewonk

    Just to make sure I have this right – the Mormons are saying that being gay is a sin. They are also saying that gays cannot get married in the Mormon church. They are also saying that they will do everything in their power to pass constîtutional amendments at the state and federal level to prevent gay folks from having equal civil rights.

    But they want gay folks to know that god loves them and is sending them to hell for all eternity to be tortured.

    Oh, yeah, and no hard feelings.

    That about cover it?

    December 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
    • Zach

      Not quite. I don't think Mormons believe that being gay sends you to hell. Practically everyone goes to heaven in Mormonism.

      December 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Not quite.
      The Mormon conception of the afterlife differs from standard Christian theology in several important ways.
      They divide the afterlife into three – the Celestial, Terrestrial and Telestial Kingdoms.
      The closest they have to "Heaven" is the Celestial Kingdom, which itself is divided into three sub-kingdoms.
      The lower kingdoms are not well described in Mormon theology, but the uppermost level is reserved solely for devout Mormons (and children who die before the age of 8).
      You cannot enter this uppermost level unless you have been endowed with your secret "new name" by the LDS and know the secret handshakes, password and "special sealings" to appease the spirit of Joseph Smith and the others who guard tne entrace to the Celestial Kingdom.

      December 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @prime, yeah, that about covers it. I just feel so LOVED I think I'll divorce my partner and rush on over to the nearest Mormon church for a big hug.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  18. coriolana

    bwaahahahaaa won't work

    December 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
  19. Denise

    Are Mormon gays allowed polygamy (and encouraged to do it) like some hetero Mormons are?

    December 10, 2012 at 11:28 am |
    • Saraswati

      This site is set up by the LDS Church which does not allow polygamy, though some other Mormon sects do. If you had either read the article or watched the video you'd know that they are not even encouraging same se'x marriage, let alone polygamy.

      December 10, 2012 at 11:45 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      The LDS doesn't exactly ban polygamy.
      Willford Woodruff's "divine revelation" in 1890 said "my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriages forbidden by the law of the land."
      That was only said becuase Utah's application for statehood had been denied 5 or 6 times becuase they practiced "the twin relics of barbarism", slavery and polygamy. The banning of polygamy was made an official requirement for entry into the Union in the 1880's.
      To this day, Mormon men can have as many "spirit wives" as they want, but Mormon women can be bound to only one man.

      December 10, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • lol??

      Are Mormon gays allowed polygamy....." What planet do you live on? The socies made the Beast marriage boss.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:07 pm |
    • Saraswati

      @Doc, according to the LDS website you will lose church membership for practicing plural marriage.

      December 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
  20. Doc Vestibule

    God's closet is big enough for all the world's gay people.

    December 10, 2012 at 11:06 am |
    • lol??

      Why do they need a GAYS-WINDOWS like in the pretty lil' picture above?

      December 10, 2012 at 11:18 am |
    • lol??

      John Wayne Gacy, "Sir, I am here to give you a bid on the windows you requested. I can even do it cheaper if your son wants to work for cash."

      December 10, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • midwest rail

      More delusional nonsense from the innuendo specialist, lol??

      December 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm |
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