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December 14th, 2012
06:17 PM ET

Massacre of children leaves many asking, 'Where’s God?'

By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors

(CNN) – As he waited with parents who feared that their kids were among the 20 children killed at a Connecticut elementary school on Friday, Rabbi Shaul Praver said the main thing he could do for parents was to merely be present.

“It’s a terrible thing, families waiting to find out if their children made it out alive,” said Praver, who leads a synagogue in Newtown, Connecticut, and was among nine clergy gathered with parents at a firehouse near Sandy Hook Elementary School, where the shooting occurred.

“They’re going to need a lot of help,” Praver said of those who are close to the dead.

From the first moments after Friday’s massacre, which also left six adults and the shooter dead, religious leaders were among the first people to whom worried and grieving families turned for help.

Over the weekend, countless more Americans will look to clergy as they struggle to process a tragedy in which so many of the victims were children.

“Every single person who is watching the news today is asking ‘Where is God when this happens?’” says Max Lucado, a prominent Christian pastor and author based in San Antonio.

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Lucado says that pastors everywhere will be scrapping their scheduled Sunday sermons to address the massacre.

“You have to address it - you have to turn everything you had planned upside down on Friday because that’s where people’s hearts are,” Lucado says.

“The challenge here is to avoid the extremes – those who say there are easy answers and those who say there are no answers.”

Indeed, many religious leaders on Friday stressed that the important thing is for clergy to support those who are suffering, not to rush into theological questions. A University of Connecticut professor on Friday hung up the phone when asked to discuss religious responses to suffering, saying, “This is an immense tragedy, and you want an academic speculating on the problem of evil?”

“There is no good answer at that time that anyone can hear and comprehend and take in,” said Ian T. Douglas, the bishop for the Episcopal diocese of Connecticut, referring to counseling family and friends of the dead. “They’re crying out from a place of deep pain.”

Praver, the rabbi, will join a memorial service Friday night at Newtown’s St. Rose of Lima Roman Catholic Church.

“We’re going to have a moment of prayer for the victims,” Praver said of the service. “We cannot let it crush our spirit and we march on.”

Some national religious groups are also sending staff to Newtown, with 10 chaplains dispatched from the North Carolina-based Billy Graham Evangelistic Association on Friday.

Public officials including President Obama, meanwhile, turned to the Bible in responding to the shooting. “In the words of Scripture, 'heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds,' ” Obama said from the White House, citing the book of Psalms.

On Twitter, #PrayForNewton became a trending topic.

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Some religious leaders argue that modern American life insulates much of the nation from the kind of senseless death and suffering that plagues much of the world every day.

“Most of the world, for most of the world’s history, has known tragedy and trauma in abundance,” wrote Rob Brendle, a Colorado pastor, in a commentary for CNN’s Belief Blog after this summer’s deadly shooting in Aurora, Colorado, which left 12 dead.

“You don’t get nearly the same consternation in Burundi or Burma, because suffering is normal to there,” wrote Brendle, who pastored congregants after a deadly shooting at his church five years ago. “For us, though, God has become anesthetist-in-chief. To believe in him is to be excused from bad things.”

My Take: This is where God was in Aurora

Lucado said there was an eerie irony for the Connecticut tragedy coming just before Christmas, noting the Bible says that Jesus Christ’s birth was followed by an order from King Herod to slay boys under 2 in the Roman city of Bethlehem.

“The Christmas story is that Jesus was born into a dark and impoverished world,” Lucado says. “His survival was surrounded by violence. The real Christmas story was pretty rough.”

Many religious leaders framed Friday’s shooting as evidence for evil in the world and for human free will in the face of a sovereign God.

“The Bible tells us the human heart is ‘wicked’ and ‘who can know it?’” the Rev. Franklin Graham said in a statement about the massacre. “My heart aches for the victims, their families and the entire community.”

Many religious leaders also said that such tragedies are a good time for lay people to express doubts about God – or anger.

“This is a time to go deep and pray,” says Lucado. “If you have a problem with God, shake a fist or two at him. If he’s God, he’s going to answer. And if he’s in control, he’ll find a way to let you know.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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soundoff (9,195 Responses)
  1. Gerri

    Religion. Opiate of the people? A true opium for the people is a belief in nothingness after death – the huge solace of thinking that for our betrayals, greed, cowardice, murder we are not going to be judged.

    December 18, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • sam stone

      i do not fear this supposed judgement.

      December 18, 2012 at 7:24 pm |
    • sam stone

      And, Gerri.....religion IS the opiate of the people

      December 18, 2012 at 7:25 pm |
    • Gerri

      You're obviously a junkie of that drug, then.

      December 18, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • sam stone

      Sounds more like you, Gerri

      December 19, 2012 at 4:53 am |
    • sam stone

      have another hit of jeebus, gerri

      December 19, 2012 at 4:56 am |
    • jennymay

      I live my life by the philosophy that we are all pieces of the larger. We are all a piece of the universe. Because of that, I can not stand the idea of stealing or hurting anyone because I feel deep empathy with all living things. I do not act in a way that lifts others up to avoid a negative judgement. I do it because lifting others up lifts me up. To even assume people only stay away from hurting or taking from others to avoid judgement, only makes me think that is why you do it.

      December 19, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      This universe SEEMS to be blind and uncaring--all the more reason to be visionary and compassionate. Isn't it best, in all situations, to do that which seems the most good (or causes the least harm) and to see the most positive aspects (or the least negative)--and to work to further that "good positivity" in every case simply because we can choose to do so in the face of an uncaring existence?

      December 19, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
  2. David Riker

    Newk55 – lost, depraved little person! I spit on the god you pray to.

    December 18, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
  3. David Riker

    skytag – I just want people to laugh the notion of god out of existence. Sometimes you have to say crude things to get their attention. I take nothing back.

    December 18, 2012 at 7:07 pm |
  4. Chips

    Debating wether or not "God" exists is like debating wether or not potato chips are "good". It's just a matter of opinion. Get over it.

    December 18, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
  5. David Riker

    Eradicate "God." Sponge him out of human affairs like dog crap off a living room floor.

    December 18, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • Chips

      Surely you must realize there is no God to be eradicated...what's the next thing we can't talk about then, spider man? God is a make believe subject and if you fight fiction there will be no more Stephen King.

      December 18, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
  6. David Riker

    Where's God? Hiding in Mike Huckabee's rectum. Sht him out, Mike.

    December 18, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • Newk55

      SHAME ON YOU FOR CURSING GOD HELL BRING WRATH AGAINST YOU UNLESS YOU CHANGE YOUR WAY OF THINKING THE BIBLE SAID FOR ME TO FORGIVE YOU FOR YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOURE DOING!!!!!

      December 18, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • skytag

      I'm an atheist, but this kind of talk is completely uncalled for. It is the result of a very poor upbringing.

      December 18, 2012 at 6:03 pm |
    • sam stone

      newk: you do know that blathering empty anonymous proxy threats on the net is only so effective, don't you?

      December 18, 2012 at 6:10 pm |
    • Dippy

      And doing it in all caps doesn't help.

      December 18, 2012 at 6:14 pm |
  7. wow.....

    @mutual respect

    and love is explained as a manifestation of emotions and memories.....

    also...intelligent design is based on the ad ingorantiam logical fallacy.... to make a positive claim (there is a creator) positive evidence must be submitted... the absence of another explanation only means that we do not know, it doesnt mean we get to make up a specific explanation

    December 18, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
    • mutual respect

      I would agree with you in the ‘we don’t know’ conclusion to an extent. I still say there seems to be a lack of ability to comprehend what faith is. I mean, I know you get it but your argument/stance rarely acknowledges that there will be some things that are true yet unexplainable. Do you really think that everything that exists can be explained and understood by you? Maybe, just maybe… you don’t have all the answers. I know I don’t…
      Is it possible that something could be true yet not fully understood, explained, proven? Is it possible?
      Outside of faith I do read and investigate the bible. I actually dig into the bible… Look at historical evidence to learn about what happened… ask questions to people who research this without bias, etc… I do not blindly follow anything. Yes it is a combination of data, belief, faith etc… If there is a creator I would expect nothing less… that is, that it would be very difficult to figure out.

      December 18, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • wow.....

      Of coure there are processes that we cannot currently explain. Science answers more and more everyday and just because we cannot currently explain something does not mean its unexplainable. Just because we cannot currently explain something does not mean god did it..... that would be the god of the gaps argument...... faith is an easy way out and its been discovered that faith regarding physical processes is an ever receding thing. For example, before our ancestors used to think the sun was a god riding a chariot across the sky. Now we know the earth orbits the sun and the sun is a giant ball of plasma...... . There isa logical process to everything.

      December 18, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • Beliver

      So wait, science discovers new things everyday, but God is an impossibility? Maybe the point of the entire race is to advance science to the point of discovery of god and then this life here is done.

      December 19, 2012 at 10:05 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Hey Be a Liver, do alert the media should that event occur.

      December 19, 2012 at 10:06 pm |
  8. Judy

    I just read gun shops are reporting a flood of sales since this horrible incident.
    Why? Are people thinking they won't be able to buy more guns? Are they expecting copycat killings?

    December 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • derp

      Paranoid gun nuts buying guns because they are paranoid gun nuts?

      December 18, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
    • David Riker

      Judy – they are cowards. Frightened sheep. Bad Americans. Godamn them.

      December 18, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
    • Guns need to stay

      Don't you want to protect your home and your child now knowing that there are mad men like this killer around? Why do you suppose the killer didn't attack a police station? They are armed.

      December 18, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
  9. Here's a question

    If you could choose wether or not something existed...would you prefer there were or that there was not a diety?

    December 18, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • David Riker

      Emphatically NOT.

      December 18, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • skytag

      That would depend on the nature of said deity.

      December 18, 2012 at 6:05 pm |
  10. owe2AA

    please explain to me a scenario where murdering defenseless children is part of some "grander plane" that we can't question. I am willing to bet that as those terrified babies huddled in corners and under their desks, crying out for their parents, while this heartless monster shot most of them in the back. So, if there is a god, I would like to ask him why my life at 41 is spared? I would trade places TODAY to save one of those little souls, without hesitation. And god is compassionate? Shows mercy?

    December 18, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • wow.....

      *insert bible verse here as if its evidence of anything*

      December 18, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  11. Double R

    What we need to do as Christians, Atheists, or whatever you believe or don't believe in, is to focus our energy, thoughts, prayers and efforts to helping those families that have been deeply hurt by this tragedy. Or, if you can't help that community, help your own by raising awareness on gun control, or teaching your children what to do in the case of an Active Shooter situation. Unfortunately an Active Shooter is a credible threat in today's society and there is training that can be given at the staff level of any school. Contact your local police station and I'm sure than can help set that up for you. Bottom line, stop all the theological bickering, and focus on being a productive member of your community. We all can be of service in some way.

    December 18, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
    • the AnViL

      yet someone else pointing the finger anywhere other than to the actual cause: mental illness.

      December 18, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
    • wow.....

      now anvil... dont you know that anything thats not IMMEDIATELY explainable then god did it!

      December 18, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
    • the AnViL

      wow....

      – or someone else... i dunno.. who could it be... maybe... SATAN

      December 18, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
    • wow.....

      GASP!

      December 18, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • Guns need to stay

      The first thing any dictator in power does is take away the guns from the citizenry.

      December 18, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Why do you need assault-type weapons?

      To defend yourself against your own government? What special kind of ass wipe are you?

      December 19, 2012 at 10:08 pm |
  12. the AnViL

    they terk our gerd out of skerl!

    THEY TERK OUR GERD!!!!!!!!!

    December 18, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  13. mutual respect

    It is hard to believe what so many of the atheists have to say on these blogs. For a group who pretends to build its argument on facts and logic it is surprising how little of those tactics are used.
    Some of the smartest people in the world are atheists. At the same time, some of the smartest people in the world are Christians. You could exchange the word ‘smartest for ‘dumbest’ in both of the previous sentences and they would still remain true. The point is this, to act as if you really have all the answers and that those on the other side of the argument are without intelligence is just plain ignorant on your part.
    I am currently reading a book about the historical evidence regarding Jesus Christ (not theological evidence… historical). There are many brilliant scholars who have spent their lives researching ancient texts, archaeology etc… whose faith has been strengthened by their findings. I have no clue (nor do you) whether or not their findings are true but I do find them compelling.
    Your ‘show me the proof’ bit always seems to falls flat... How about this? Prove that love exists. Prove that God does not exist. Both sides can play that game and it does no good. You can’t prove faith with science nor can you prove science with faith.
    The point is this… The conversation about creationism or Christianity is one with many fascinating questions, topics, and potential conclusions. If you really think you have all the answers and those with a different opinion are ‘idiots’ then I promise you are not as smart as you think you are. Yes, I am a Christian. I do not think atheists are idiots. In fact, the ones I know are very smart. I don’t agree with them and they don’t agree with me but when we engage in a debate it’s done with mutual respect.

    December 18, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • the AnViL

      there isn't any actual verifiable substantiated historical evidence of your jebus.

      there is, however – evidence that he could have been more than one person... there is also evidence that the story was drawn from other stories that predate xianity by thousands of years.

      also – yes.. people that believe in imaginary men in the sky are delusional.

      you and yours are the true nature of "darkness" on the planet...

      you are the enemies of reason.

      December 18, 2012 at 2:13 pm |
    • wow.....

      Our "show me the proof bit" actually does not fall flat.... "prove that God does not exist" is an example of the Burden of Proof logical fallacy. The burden of proof falls on YOU to prove that God exists. We can validly say that there is NO PROOF and therefore it doesn’t exist. Its like you saying vampires exist and telling me I’m wrong because I don’t have proof that they do not exist. Love is not a concrete word but emotions are the result of complex biochemical reactions in the brain... this is proven by the ability to affect emotions with drugs and electrical stimuli.

      Evolution is PROVEN where as creationism has no evidence... therefore creationism is goofy and based on nothing......

      Basing your beliefs on verifiable, repeatable evidence is logical.... basing your beliefs on a book that was weaved together over centuries, written by man, and is interpreted in thousands of different ways is illogical.

      December 18, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
    • skytag

      Love is manifested in people's behaviors in ways nothing else can explain.

      As for proving God doesn't exist, that argument is an example of how religion makes people stupid. When there is no reason to believe something exists the onus for providing proof it does exists falls on the people who claim it exists. I don't believe in God, Satan, Santa Claus, leprechauns, or alien abductions, all for the same reason: I see no reason whatsoever to believe in any of them.

      Would you seriously challenge someone to prove leprechauns don't exist?

      December 18, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • mutual respect

      Anvil- You are misinformed. There actually is verifiable substantiated evidence of Jesus existence. I won’t do the research for you but you can find it if you want to. You can even find non-Christian corroborative evidence to support it. Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the younger etc… all wrote about him and even in their attempt to write about their disdain for Christians they actually support much of what Christianity is all about. In fact, there is more historical evidence to support Jesus than any other religious figure in history. If love, caring, giving, selflessness, hope, joy etc… are the darkness of the world then we just have different viewpoints altogether. Your arrogance is the enemy of reason. Humility is a friend of reason. You might want to try that out for a change. You don’t have all the answers and the ones you think you have are wrong.
      Wow…- Just because man (who wrote the bible and made scientific discoveries) can’t prove something doesn’t mean it can’t exist. Sorry, it just doesn’t mean that at all. Think big my friend. You just might not be the smartest thing around. I know I’m not… Honestly, it takes more faith to believe against intelligent design. Life isn’t a science project and IF there is a creator I can assure you there is a plan and he knows more than you. If you believe otherwise, more power to you.
      Skytag- That was my point… asking for proof of God is stupid also. You might think that validates your argument but it doesn’t. I guess Atheism also makes people stupid? Regarding love, you agree it exists yet can’t really be explained or proven?
      Maybe the real argument is about Faith. You don’t understand or agree with what it means to have faith yet there are many people smarter than you who do.

      December 18, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
    • derp

      "You can even find non-Christian corroborative evidence to support it. Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the younger etc"

      Not a single one of them is even remotely contemporary to what would have been the life of Jesus, and much of what they have written has been debunked.

      There were two contemporary organizations who kept complete records during Jesus' purported time on earth. Jews and Romans. Both kept very detailed records. Neither has any mention of a Jesus of Nazareth.

      December 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • wow.....

      @mutual respect

      You have not addressed your burden of proof logical fallicy... you are essentially saying vampires, bigfoot, the loch ness monster exist because we havent proven that they do not......

      December 18, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
    • wow.....

      wow.....

      @mutual respect

      and love is explained as a manifestation of emotions and memories.....

      also...intelligent design is based on the ad ingorantiam logical fallacy.... to make a positive claim (there is a creator) positive evidence must be submitted... the absence of another explanation only means that we do not know, it doesnt mean we get to make up a specific explanation

      December 18, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
    • the AnViL

      derrrrrrrp:

      "You can even find non-Christian corroborative evidence to support it. Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the younger etc"

      EVERY account of jebus is HEARSAY. what's more, EVERY account of EVERY account of jebus – is also hearsay.

      there is precisely zero substantiated evidence that there was ever a jebus – and that's a flat fact you're going to have to deal with.

      it's easy to ignore these facts when you have faith!

      cha cha cha

      December 19, 2012 at 12:59 am |
    • Beliver

      Mutual respect- dont fall for their "burden of proof" argument. We have ZERO burden of proof. We don't have to prove anything. There is like 2 or 3 canned responses atheists will spout and this is one of them. As "logical" and smart they purpose to be, there is quite a lack of critical thinking and thinking outside the box. There is proof, they just don't want to buy into it. If I said I was thinking of a word, how could I prove what word I was thinking at that exact moment? It's in my head, very real, and experienced by me...but there is no way to prove the word that wad in my head to others. How is god any different? If he was proven to me and all I can do is relay something I, and I alone experienced, why is it any different?

      December 19, 2012 at 10:42 pm |
    • Beliver

      I just read something from wow that shows a stunning lapse in logic- "we can validly say there is no proof and therefore does not exist". Wow, how many times has that been disproven and ripped to shreds? How many scientists have devoted their lives to prove something was true or existed when there was no proof? Isn't that one thing science does- strive to find proof for that which is not known?

      December 19, 2012 at 10:52 pm |
  14. Truth

    GOD was there with them....GOD gave us Free Will.....GOD did not do this horrible thing....WHY BLAME HIM....EVERYONE LOOKS FOR SOMEONE TO BLAME....SO BLAME GOD....You need to focus blame where it belongs....and it it not GOD...

    December 18, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • Athy

      That's the truth, Truth. It's true because there is no god.

      December 18, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
    • skytag

      I blame the fact that the killer's brain was not wired right. No other explanation needed.

      December 18, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • sam stone

      Truth: How do you reconcile the concepts of free will and an omniscient god?

      December 18, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • derp

      "I blame the fact that the killer's brain was not wired right"

      God wired his brain.

      It's god's fault.

      December 18, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
    • sam stone

      "God wired his brain. It's God's fault."

      That's what happens when you let a carpenter do wiring. The union is going to hear about this

      December 18, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
  15. Rita Rossi

    Want to know what happened and where God was in this and all other school shootings? Well we took Him out of schools and discarded Him like dirt. What's wrong with everyone. We love our national anthem because we think that's more important. Well when we take God off our money then churches will probably be next. There's lessons to be learned but very few are paying attention. What harm is there to having God in school? One morning prayer or one pause for those who would like to pray; others wouldn't have to if they didn't feel like it. I think the lady that started this stupid idea is dead. If you believe in the devil you must believe in God because He made Him too. We have a free will and that has gotten out of control not guns.

    December 18, 2012 at 12:55 pm |
    • JWT

      God never left the schools. What changed is that the schools could not sponsor prayer within the school. It is nto the schools job to teach religion to young children. That is the parent's job. I would never allow you to teach your religion to my children, that would be perfectly wrong.

      December 18, 2012 at 12:57 pm |
    • WASP

      @rossi: so if god made the devil, which was one of his perfect angels, then your god is responcible for all the pain and suffering the devil causes seeing god knew everything the devil would do.
      it's kindof like the parent that knows their child has temperment issues and needs mental help but still forgets to lock the weapons cabinet.

      December 18, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
    • james

      wasp; i am not sure if you are serious with your question but since you know a little of the story i will try to fill in a few of your gaps. the devil like all spirit and fleshly creatures were created with free will and chose to disobey their creator. they chose to govern themselves independent of their creator. they were given time to see if they could but they have failed miserably as we see the way this system is heading In just a little while Jehovah the creator with his son Jesus will take their great power and show what was meant to be. if you are serious and want to learn more about what the bible really teaches let me know and I will be glad to show you where you can learn about the wonderful hope for the earth and those who have died as well as those who want to live in line with our creator's laws and principles right now.

      December 18, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
    • skytag

      There is no God. This happened because the killer's brain was defective just as some people suffer from chronic depression because their brains are defective. Free will is our default state unless something or someone takes it away from us. It is not something your imaginary friend gave us.

      What harm is there to having God in school? Which God? Should we have Christian prayers, Islamic prayers, Jewish prayers, or prayers from some other religion in our schools? The fact that you would even ask this proves you aren't thinking at all when you comment on this.

      December 18, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
    • sam stone

      Prayer in schools is fine. Government organized prayer is not. Why is this so hard to understand?

      December 18, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
    • sam stone

      "We have a free will"

      Explain to us how Free Will and an Omniscient God are compatible

      December 18, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
    • derp

      " What harm is there to having God in school? One morning prayer or one pause for those who would like to pray; others wouldn't have to if they didn't feel like it."

      Fine, I'll tell your children to get out their prayer mats, get on their hands and knees and bow towards mecca. We will all praise allah together.

      I'm sure you will have no problem with that.

      December 18, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
    • james

      there is no need for prayer in school, prayer should be between you and your God and sam and sky why are you wasting your time here?

      December 18, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
    • kobun37

      So where was God during the school violence that happened before 1962? Wikipedia lists dozens of acts of violence prior to the Supreme Court ruling on religion in schools. God didn't do anything to prevent the Bath School Disaster, and that happened in 1927.

      December 18, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • sam stone

      james: because it is entertaining

      December 19, 2012 at 4:37 am |
  16. pbuotte

    There will be an Answer : Let it Be.....

    December 18, 2012 at 11:01 am |
    • wow.....

      I can arbitrary Capitalize WoRDs ToO....

      December 18, 2012 at 11:49 am |
  17. Lee

    Any god that would allow children to die, just to test the morality of some idiot, is a monster? Face it, there is no acceptable reason for this to have happened. Your gods are either indifferent or nonexistent.

    December 18, 2012 at 10:58 am |
  18. and dont forget

    Religious dogma...... Religions are second to none when it comes to motivating people so kill....lets get rid of that as well.....

    December 18, 2012 at 9:06 am |
  19. My Cross

    M-y wife and I recently signed up for 23.anadem, which analyzes a sample of ones DNA. It is useful for identifying potential health risks, and tracing an.cestry. My own ancestry, through the genes, was mun.dane My wife had a remarkable ge.netic make up, which includes 3percent gen.etic material which is N-eanderthal. She is Ja-panese, with Sp-anish, French, Sl-avic, and South American na-tive (think Inca) background. But several thousand years ago (note this; it must have occurred well before 8000 years ago which creationists believe was about the time that g-od created man), a very distant ancestor of hers m-ated with a N-eanderthal. I know this is hard to believe, it is hard for me to believe, but this is true, and should cause some of you to think, as it has caused me to do. For those who wonder what this cross looks like – she is beautiful.

    December 18, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • jimmer

      "she is beautiful"

      She is even more beautiful with a steaming load of my man juice spewed all over her face.

      Don't spam!!

      December 18, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • jennymay

      She must be beautiful 🙂 My experience as a white girl is that those who have very diverse genetic background are always the most attractive 🙂 My husband is white south african, irish and maybe some black in him as well. So handsome, strong and healthy 🙂

      December 19, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  20. Atheist Hunter

    Violent video game that warp the minds of children should be outlawed, not guns. They are training grounds for murderers. If you let you kid sit on a computer or game system several hours a days and train to slaughter other people, then guess what, you are going to have some that will act out what you have bought them and trained them to do! Don't ask where's God. Ask where's Godly parents. I know, I know, its just a harmless game. Tell that to the dead children who he relived the game on.

    December 18, 2012 at 8:05 am |
    • wow.....

      And you know this guy was a gamer how? And your peer reviewed study in a legitimate journal linking video games to violence is where? Oh yeah I forgot... u probably do not understand how science and critical thinking work....

      December 18, 2012 at 9:10 am |
    • Primewonk

      Fundamentalist churches that warp the minds of children should be banned along with most guns. Have children spend years learning hate and bigotry at the feet of their religious masters is child abuse.

      December 18, 2012 at 9:13 am |
    • wow wow

      The most violent book ever written is the bible. From genicode, slavery, in-cest, strait up murder, murder approved by god, murder commetted by god. Ban the bible period.

      December 18, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • Joe

      Atheist will never agree with you, they are the kind of people with no remorse. I have watch every single articles on CNN and all i saw were atheists calling people names, insulting, attacking people. They have no morals whatsoever. They don't have compassion for others. I have not seen one replies from them in support of those poor little children. They are unaffected by this sad story. Atheist have no souls and are raising their kids with their no boundaries ways of thinking. I'm afraid we will see more sad stories like this one in the future. People needs to wake up and silence those atheists and stopping them from teaching theirs unclean way of life to others before it gets worst. By silence i mean don't let them have free speech since nothing clean comes out of them.

      December 18, 2012 at 12:38 pm |
    • wow.....

      @Joe

      Atheists absolutely have compassion and feel terribly for what happened to these kids and what the families are going through. We just know that it was a person with a mental problem that did it and had nothing to with an imaginary sky friend. Nice one with the free speech thing... you would not want our ideas of logic and critical thinking to spread too far...

      December 18, 2012 at 12:51 pm |
    • OTOH

      Atheist Hunter,

      I have heard that while this killer occasionally played World of Warcraft (which is more of a wizardy fantasy video game), his main obsession in that genre was "Dance, Dance Revolution", a dancing game, which is probably less violent than a Mickey Mouse cartoon... and is certainly less violent than many of your Bible stories.

      December 18, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
    • skytag

      Like the good Christian he is, Joe is telling lies about atheists to make himself feel superior to them.

      December 18, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • sam stone

      "Atheist....they are the kind of people with no remorse. I have watch every single articles on CNN and all i saw were atheists calling people names, insulting, attacking people"

      Apparently, the concept of irony is beyond you

      Get back on your knees, b1tch

      December 18, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
    • derp

      Christian gun nut shoots up a school and it's the fault of atheists and video games.

      Do you actually believe that video games played more of a role in this than the fact that his mom took him to shooting ranges where he fired live ammunition with an assault rifle.

      You christards are dumber than I thought.

      December 18, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
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