December 14th, 2012
06:17 PM ET
Massacre of children leaves many asking, 'Where’s God?'
By Dan Gilgoff and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editors
(CNN) – As he waited with parents who feared that their kids were among the 20 children killed at a Connecticut elementary school on Friday, Rabbi Shaul Praver said the main thing he could do for parents was to merely be present.
“It’s a terrible thing, families waiting to find out if their children made it out alive,” said Praver, who leads a synagogue in Newtown, Connecticut, and was among nine clergy gathered with parents at a firehouse near Sandy Hook Elementary School, where the shooting occurred.
“They’re going to need a lot of help,” Praver said of those who are close to the dead.
From the first moments after Friday’s massacre, which also left six adults and the shooter dead, religious leaders were among the first people to whom worried and grieving families turned for help.
Over the weekend, countless more Americans will look to clergy as they struggle to process a tragedy in which so many of the victims were children.
“Every single person who is watching the news today is asking ‘Where is God when this happens?’” says Max Lucado, a prominent Christian pastor and author based in San Antonio.
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Lucado says that pastors everywhere will be scrapping their scheduled Sunday sermons to address the massacre.
“You have to address it - you have to turn everything you had planned upside down on Friday because that’s where people’s hearts are,” Lucado says.
“The challenge here is to avoid the extremes – those who say there are easy answers and those who say there are no answers.”
Indeed, many religious leaders on Friday stressed that the important thing is for clergy to support those who are suffering, not to rush into theological questions. A University of Connecticut professor on Friday hung up the phone when asked to discuss religious responses to suffering, saying, “This is an immense tragedy, and you want an academic speculating on the problem of evil?”
“There is no good answer at that time that anyone can hear and comprehend and take in,” said Ian T. Douglas, the bishop for the Episcopal diocese of Connecticut, referring to counseling family and friends of the dead. “They’re crying out from a place of deep pain.”
Praver, the rabbi, will join a memorial service Friday night at Newtown’s St. Rose of Lima Roman Catholic Church.
“We’re going to have a moment of prayer for the victims,” Praver said of the service. “We cannot let it crush our spirit and we march on.”
Some national religious groups are also sending staff to Newtown, with 10 chaplains dispatched from the North Carolina-based Billy Graham Evangelistic Association on Friday.
Public officials including President Obama, meanwhile, turned to the Bible in responding to the shooting. “In the words of Scripture, 'heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds,' ” Obama said from the White House, citing the book of Psalms.
On Twitter, #PrayForNewton became a trending topic.
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Some religious leaders argue that modern American life insulates much of the nation from the kind of senseless death and suffering that plagues much of the world every day.
“Most of the world, for most of the world’s history, has known tragedy and trauma in abundance,” wrote Rob Brendle, a Colorado pastor, in a commentary for CNN’s Belief Blog after this summer’s deadly shooting in Aurora, Colorado, which left 12 dead.
“You don’t get nearly the same consternation in Burundi or Burma, because suffering is normal to there,” wrote Brendle, who pastored congregants after a deadly shooting at his church five years ago. “For us, though, God has become anesthetist-in-chief. To believe in him is to be excused from bad things.”
My Take: This is where God was in Aurora
Lucado said there was an eerie irony for the Connecticut tragedy coming just before Christmas, noting the Bible says that Jesus Christ’s birth was followed by an order from King Herod to slay boys under 2 in the Roman city of Bethlehem.
“The Christmas story is that Jesus was born into a dark and impoverished world,” Lucado says. “His survival was surrounded by violence. The real Christmas story was pretty rough.”
Many religious leaders framed Friday’s shooting as evidence for evil in the world and for human free will in the face of a sovereign God.
“The Bible tells us the human heart is ‘wicked’ and ‘who can know it?’” the Rev. Franklin Graham said in a statement about the massacre. “My heart aches for the victims, their families and the entire community.”
Many religious leaders also said that such tragedies are a good time for lay people to express doubts about God – or anger.
“This is a time to go deep and pray,” says Lucado. “If you have a problem with God, shake a fist or two at him. If he’s God, he’s going to answer. And if he’s in control, he’ll find a way to let you know.
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WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS BLAME GOD WHEN A TRAGEDY TAKES PLACE, GOD GAVE US LIFE,. THE DEVIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAGEDY, HE CAME TO ROB, DESTROY AND TO KILL. PUT THE BLAME ON THE DEVIL HE'S THE ONE WHO ROBS US OF WHAT GOD GAVE US TO MAKE US HAPPY. THE DEVIL IS THE CULPRIT.
LMAO! LOL! You don't know the bible very well. It might help if you actually read it.
Actually Mr. Luke is quite correct. God has been evicted from schools, prayer and public life. American popular culture has told Him to hit the road, to buzz off, to leave town.
There really is such a thing as evil. Ask the families of the dead. They will tell you. Your problem is that you deny clear evidence of it – written in blood upon the pages of our news media.
There is no such thing as a spiritual vacuum and when God is absent the wickedness of the human heart with or without the inspiration of demonic evil will enter the culture and exercise its authority. And that exercise never turns out well.
Until and unless America repents of its wickedness and debauchery we will see more of the same – caused by those who believe they have no responsibility to God or anyone else......beginning with the US congress and ending with the madman on the street.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
Hey Choir Loft – At what time were we free from psychopaths? There must be some mythical time in the past when god wasn't "evicted" from schools and the rest of that nonsense. When was that exactly?
Also, when exactly did this "eviction" occur? I need a date, please. As far as I know, anyone who wants to can pray in school.
Hey Luke... heads-up man: your caps lock key is on.
God was doing bong hits with Rachel Maddow.
Its really simple
There is no god
Proof of God in three points...
"1. Objective moral values exist only if God exists.
2. Objective moral values do exist.
3. Therefore God exists."
– The End of Reason
Morality is the bedrock of any logical conversation. To deny that is to exercise murder of one's fellow man in principle.
Atheists are quite good at that.
You can tell a Muslim by his love of Mohammad.
You can tell a Christian by his love of Jesus.
You can tell an atheist, but you can't tell him much.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
"You can tell an atheist, but you can't tell him much."
Hey look another lying xtian....
Welcome to the discussion, Pete.
I note the typical atheist response. If one can't respond to logic by use of logic there's always character assassination or obfuscation. Never admit error because then the responsibility toward God becomes as bright as the sun at high noon.
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
Hey Choir Loft,
1. Objective moral values exist only if God exists. [Assumption, not logical fact]
2. Objective moral values do exist. [Arguable. I say moral values are subjective]
3. Therefore God exists. [True: he lives in a castle with Santa and Casper the friendly ghost]
BTW, why do you assume Pete is an Atheist? Maybe he's not...
Go back to your loft like a good little toe wart!
Where was God, sitting high and looking low, He has warned us of this destruction and he is not to be questioned, just served. His grace is sufficient. His works are great and he makes no mistake. We will never know why this happened only that God is in control. No man be save lest he/she is in Christ Jesus...this is our only comfort. My heart go out to the families that had to bury their loved ones. It is never easy to say good bye to friends and or family.
"he is not to be questioned, just served."
Your "god" is hard to tell from Kim Jong Il, Stalin and every other tin-pot dictator in history if so.
The tin pot dictators you mentioned were all ATHEISTS, men who denied the right of their fellows to live, to enjoy the liberty of free thought and to determine the policy of their government.
How strange that atheists demand tolerance of their bankrupt philosophy, yet deny it to Christians. How typical of atheists that lies and self serving behavior are flaunted as good yet truth and morality are not.
"The alienation of God in society began in the classroom. Today, blasphemies can easily be seen on TV and the cinema. Hollywood portrays the sane as the insane. The abnormal and perverted as normal. The unborn babies are seen as nothing. The silent holocaust continues. Is it any wonder America is in trouble?"
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
If god created the universe than he created trillions of dead, lifeless rocks with earth being the only one supporting life. Now why would god create all those useless rocks? Why didn’t he create more planets with living things on them like earth? The answer may be that god is a lunatic who only accidently created earth and is now trying to create another planet like earth but can’t find the correct formula. But he keeps on trying, trying and trying.
Atheists are bigots haters don't have any respect for anyone's feelings. Dont pay them any respect throw them out like the piece of dirt they are.
@John, this is the most ironic comment I've seen
If you believe in your god then what others say should not bother you as it should be beneath you
Are you having doubts?
Why is it that religion is allowed to be pushed on everyone whether they want it or not?
Why can't religion deal with criticism?
It's sad your felling are hurt, but my feelings get hurt every time a child is brainwashed and indoctrinated into religion
"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."...Stephen F Roberts
Religion is mankind's oldest organized criminal activity first begun in india by indian gangs when india was a solid part of south africa/pangaea some 2300 miles away from where it is now. Religion, then, is just another form of gangsterism, a conspiracy of cowards.
I want to know why pick out just religion as being "pushed" upon those who do not want it? What about that evolutionary theory junk being pushed upon innocent children, those who do not know any better? Why is that okay to do? Hypocrites!
Laurab68- It's funny how atheist people come to a web site like this under a conversation on GOD unless you are really lost and reaching out to get help because you are so lost in this corrupt world in which we live in so if the bible is a fairy tale I guess in the beginning of time all creature's and male and female came out of know were right or was there supper scientist in those billion's of years since creation and all deferential creations was brought about by CLONING right ,yea right just as a leopard is built for speed and a turtle built for slow and all different creation's built for and different design's so grow up before you so say ATHEIST go off babbling out of your mouth's just as SATAN did to EVE in the garden causing the fall of man and the begin of sin to man all of you have freedom choice that's what GOD'S word's say's so for your soul all we as believer's can do is pray for you the ATHEIST minded people in content of our fair book story as you say me I had rather put my faith in my GOD'S hand's than in the hand's of man in which SATAN has his hand's in so being said to each his own and to each his own in which each will be judged in the end so from story book reader to the word's of man reader's and ATHEIST have a good day and I will PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY . A-MAN in the name of JESUS CHRIST LORD AND SAVORIER !
Is it against your religion to use punctuation or write coherent sentences? Or have you handled one too many snakes and the poison is hitting your nerve centers?
to jim p.
It is not coherent sentences which is at issue here. Are you perhaps an English teacher?
Neither is it the practice of a man's religion. Are you perhaps a theologian?
The issue is atheist intolerance masquerading as righteous indignation. The action is atheists claim of the moral high ground when morality is the first thing to be evicted from atheist 'coherent thought'.
If there is bigotry against the free exercise of a man's innermost faith it doesn't come from Christians these days, it is openly expressed by atheists. If there is incoherent thought being touted as logic, it doesn't come from Christian keyboards. It comes from hatred of God, of one's fellow man, of logic truth and morality – it comes from atheists.
"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible"
– George Washington
"Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants."
but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
It doesn't take a teacher or theologian to recognize poorly punctuated religious blather. Righteous indignation? Moral high ground? Funny claims coming from someone " hollering from the choir loft..."
Most people don't even know the teaching of the first book of the BIBLE in GENESIS CHAPTER 1"-24-31 god CREATED LIVING CREATURES ACCORDING TO THERE KIND VERSE 27 :SO GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN IMAGE, IN THE IMAGE OF GOD HE CREATED HIM; MALE AND FEMALE HE CREATED THEM.THEN IN HIS GARDEN HE CREATED MAN ADAM CHAPTER 2:VERSE7 THE LORD GOD FORMED THE MAN FROM THE DUST OF THE GROUND ,NAMED ADAM IN HIS PERFECT GARDEN THEN HE TOOK WOMAN FROM ADAM'S CHEST BONE CREATED EVE IN HIS PERFECT GARDEN CH2:VERSE21 ,SO THIS WAS HIS TWO PERFECT PEOPLE IN THE GARDEN UNTIL THE FALL OF EVE BY THE SERPENT,SO DO YOU SEE THERE WAS MAN AND WOMAN CREATED BEFORE THE CREATION OF HIS PERFECT CREATION IN HIS PERFECT GARDEN,THEN EVE EAT OF THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT OF THE GARDEN AND THE FALL BEGIN OF SIN IN THE WORLD SO THERE WAS CREATION OF MAN AND WOMAN BEFORE ADAM AND EVE READ YOUR FIRST BOOK OF GENESIS !
The jewish culture only goes back about 8 thousand years. When india crashed into asia about 65 million years ago there thousands of indians on the continent of india and thousands of asians of the landmass of asia. This means that billions of people had lived and died before the jews created their god, the garden of eden, and adam and eve.
Moby Schtick -I said A-MAN to your post until I read IT again you say no prove of GOD so who million's of years ago created man and animal and creatures "o" thy where CLONED right I don't think that will even be done by scientist today or for ever, a leopard was design for speed ,a lion can't catch a leopard ,so were is your mind;s on creation in it's self du !
Eric G -read your bible you are of evil as soon as you come out of the womb.that's why Jesus died on the cross for the generation's afterwards to be saved for GOD not to destroy the world then, so don't think you can pick verse's out of the bible like the rest of the world to make it work for your selfish on believes and the wishes of the flesh lost generation you folk's are ,lost,lost,lost,lost,lost,lost.
Actually in my personal experience, it was ignorance, my ignorance, that was obstructing my sight. Perhaps it's the same for you.
How dare you expect God to just solve all of our problems? God is not just going to perform a miracle to stop some wack job from going into a place and shooting up a bunch of kids. God gave us all free will and he is not going to make the world perfect for us. He gave us all the power to make our own decisions on this earth and the decision to take the side of the Lord or not take the side of the Lord. Obviously, Adam Lanza was not a man of the Lord, because he brought evil to all those helpless kids and families that he devastated. He also brought evil to our nation created under God. In my opinion this country is severely lacking religion, and more importantly lacking Christianity. This nation was founded under God, but now we have let so many other religions into the country and as history shows, different religions in the same place leads to violence. Especially where there is no religion. What do athiests care if they shoot and kill a man? They aren't afraid of going to hell. They are worried about going to jail. Im not saying all athiests are killers,or terrible people necessarily. But whats to stop an athiest from going out and killing a bunch of people if he/she feels like doing so? If all Americans were born and raised Christian do you think we would have all these massacres and evil doings in this country? There will always be sin, the world isn't perfect. But Christianity gives people a damn good reason to do the right thing and live a good life as best as they can. What I'm trying to say is that God is not going to act as a magician and make the whole world perfect for us, He created us, he created this world, and he created everything in this world. But one thing he isn't going to do, is play puppets with us and take someones free will away every time someone does something wrong because we sin everyday.
joseph, how stupid are you? It's "amen." Look it up. It means something."A-MAN" does not.
"play puppets with us and take someones free will away every time someone does something wrong "
What of the free will of the people who were killed? Why is the free will of the killer given full rein by this god of yours but the will to not die totally ignored, even when it is children being gunned down?
And he has no problem mucking with people's will when it suits him:
"and the Lord hardened Pharoah's heart so that he would not let the people go..." doesn't sound like free will to me. And Jonah certainly didn't get a lot of choice in what he did or where he went if he expected to keep on living.
Your god answers prayers in such a way as to be indistinguishable from random chance it seems.
Garry-The reason atheists don't kill people is simply that they believe it's wrong–it's not because they're afraid of some punishment after death, but if that's your reason for not killing someone, that's pretty sad.
maybe God needed more angels...???
God, all powerful, all knowing, all doing, wanted dead kids, so it happened. The ultimate power in the universe that controls everything, OBVIOUSLY wanted this to happen. It is left to you Xtians to figure out if you can handle that truth.
yeah, god wanted more "child" angels, because the 26,000 children that die each day from starvation is not enough for him, so he needed 20 more. And, because god is so merciful, he didn't want these kids to die peacefully in their sleep... no, screaming in terror and riddled with bullets is a very loving way to die. That is your god for you.
All these people that claim to know that God doesn't exist come to a religious blog to weigh in with their opinion...how wierd.
To know that a God doesn't exist must mean that you are God.....maybe everyone should ask them why they allow evil to exist in the world. If they don't have a satisfactory answer then they must not be God....if they aren't God and don't believe in God then why are they here? Is there an agenda? An agenda to eradicate a God that they say doesn't exist but they devote an inordinate amount of time to......that kinda seems insane......and people are supposed to take their opinions seriously?
Because, John, you god believers are trying to get everything to work your way and you don't have one single shred of evidence. Anybody can oppose your belief in god with their belief in god. See any other denomination or religion. And none of you can prove your beliefs right and the other beliefs wrong. Oh, you can argue about it for months and years and start wars and kill each other children and that sort of thing, but unlike concepts in math or chemistry, none of you can PROVE that your ideas about god are correct.
God's existence is irrelevant because he's so invisible and undetectable. It doesn't matter if he exists because there's nothing to measure in his existence. The universe keeps on doing what it's doing regardless of anyone's opinions on the existence of unproven and invisible beings. We atheists think that's a bit stupid and that you believers have got dumb ideas knocking around in your heads keeping you from being as rational as you could be. So instead of complaining, how about you thank us for trying to kill the virus that's poisoning your minds and keeping you stupid.
You distort viewpoints badly. You cannot prove your god is the only god unless you are all wise and all knowing if it comes down to that.
Most of us say we do not believe your god exists as we have yet to see convincing evidence or get our questions answered. I'll go so far as to say I very seriously doubt *anything* answering the various descriptions of gods actually exists but I will also admit I could be wrong.
The proof of a god's existence would be trivially easy for said god and yet such proofs are lacking. The Christian god made certain specific promises of behavior that regularly go unfulfilled: "If a son ask his father for bread, will he be given a stone? Yet how much moire will your Father in heaven give you if you ask him?" Yet thousands of people starve daily in the world and many are fervent Christians yet stones are about all they get in answer to their prayers.
And the death rate for Christians by poison i the same as for atheists despite the specific promise that a believer cannot be poisoned.
All the "real" miracles were long ago and far away or happen when no one is looking. (That business in Jerusalem where some monk or priest goes into a locked chamber all alone and comes out with a lit candle that was magically lit by God...yeah right.)
I don't believe in your bible for the same reasons I don't believe in Grimm's fairy Tales.
Moby, you are spouting your personal assumptions. Go read the Bible, the entire thing, and learn what it means to be a Christian. God expects us to be doing something to prevent evil from happening on this planet. So why don't we? Because not enough people actually care enough to help others who require their help. It is why the American Congress sits on its hands instead of doing what is needed to be done. It is why insurance companies balk at paying out claims generated from natural disasters.
The closes teaching I have found of the prophecy teaching of GOD'S book of live is http://www.americaisrael prophecy.com/anti christnations.html so GOD bless all and beware of teaching's of wolfs in sheep's clothing the real true teaching is the holy bible and I will get criticism from many but there again his to each his own let your heart and spirit threw prayer guide you,not the wolf in sheep clothing and there believes !
How old are you, Joseph? You write like a third grader. Poor writing skills seem to pretty much identify the religious simpletons.
People won't to pick verse's out of the bible instead of studying and praying to GOD for the knowledge of understanding of his book for live and so mislead in false teaching's of wolf's in sheep's clothing so WERE IS GOD you will never understand unless you devote your self in prayer and guides threw the holy spirit for his teaching's and understanding and REMEMBER we are all born in the world in evil that's why CHRIST died on the cross for the generation's ahead to seek him for his grace and his kingdom and not the kingdom of Nebuchadnezzar and his pit of fiery hell and torture !
I was not born evil. What evidence do you have to make such a claim?
Athy- you are a third grader with out a mind and foolish babbling I am 54 and no no high school education had to go to work to survive but smarter than you will ever be I was a self taught electrician which is probable beyond your mental capability so craw back in your little turtle shell and go to sleep for you run your lip's like a idiot ! Eric G -if my GOD is man mad then maybe he need's to remake you and all the other animals and creatures of the world, "O" I know every thing and all creature's was "CLONED FROM THE BEGINNING RIGHT" "THAT WOULD BE FOOLISH WORD'S FROM A FOOLISH MIND" !
Come on Joseph, you need to lighten up some. You believe what you believe because you were taught to believe that. Believe as you like, you and the rest of us will also. To get things in perspective, please take the time to read, THE AGE OF REASON, written by Thomas Paine. Might give you a completely different view on things. Peace.
People won't to know were was GOD, ask yourself were was GOD in your heart's and the teaching of his word's in your own hart's and the teaching and raising of your children and where was GOD in there heart's,ACT'S 5:29 obey GOD rather than man,Rev:2:23 I am he who searches heart and mind's ,Psalm:51:5,Surely I was sinful/at birth,sinful from the time my mother conceived me.Isaiah:64:6,7 All of us have become like one who is unclean,and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf,and like the wind our sins sweep us away.7 No one/calls on your name or strives to lay hold of you; for you have hidden your face from us and made us waste away because of our sins.So you ask were is GOD do you not seek to school for education for job's do you seek dictionary for word's for understanding, but you don't seek GOD and teach your kid's for grace for GOD he say's seek him and he will give you knowledge of his teaching ,GOD is a loving GOD but he is a jealous GOD and he gives you choice to seek good or evil in which each has to seek for his/her self ,so why don't you see that there will be judgement in the end for your soul's, SATAN is a GOD to this is what the hole battle will be about in the end at judgement day in which place your soul will be sent ,SO WERE IS GOD he is there but are you there seeking him and teaching your children to seek him ,yes he is a loving but jealous GOD that's why he give's you choice of GOOD OR EVIL and your choice of who you won't to serve !
Your god is jealous? Sounds like a human attribute. Could it be that your god is man made?
Our God is a good God. He is the same today as he was in the beginning. If alot of the hipocrites that are asking " Where's God". would just learn to read their Bible they would know where he is. God has told people from the beginning that he loved them, but, if they turn away from him, he would turn away from them. Just look at the world we live in today. Athesist and any non-believer have more to do with taking God out of everything that this country and world was founded on. And you wonder " Where is God". People need to turn back to him and do the things we were commanded to do. Yea, he gave us free will. But, he knew that eventually, even though that is what we wanted, that we couldn't handle free will. If our country would go back to the days of when we gave thanks for everything we had and didn't have and gave God the glory, maybe, and I do not mean in any way to speak for God, we would see where God is.
" . . . God out of everything that this country and world was founded on"
I guess you wouldn't know what this country was founded on if it hit you in the face.
Out of one side of your face, you say your God is all-loving. Out of the other side of your face, you say your God is vindictive (hateful, if you don't do what he wants). You also need to study the history of the Bible itself. Over the centuries, arrogant humans have come along and removed entire chapters, books, and verses, because they wanted you to learn this crap the way THEY felt you should learn it. You are worshipping the word of MAN, not God – idiot.
article stated some dont have an answer....Bible very clear on why bad things happen.
So point these out for those of us not in the know...
On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It’s like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren’t you wondering why this isn’t a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting?
There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you’d like to know.
A police officer.. after years of training managed to do that. Generally even police officers have a quite low hit percentage. If the rest of the world can survive without armed teachers, then the we should be able to do so as well. One day a teacher will have a break-out of mental illness... and a shoot-out between teachers is not.. optimal.
Jesus Manuel Garcia, 19, an employee at a China Garden restaurant next to the Santikos Mayan Palace 14 theater, apparently became upset Sunday night after his girlfriend broke up with him.
He lashed out by sending her a message saying he planned to go to the restaurant and “shoot somebody,” said Bexar County sheriff's Sgt. Raymond Pollard.
Pollard said the woman called to warn restaurant employees, but by the time she saw his message, Garcia was already outside the China Garden firing at the front door about 9:25 p.m.
Garcia went inside, chased people out the back door, and followed one employee as he ran toward the theater, apparently because he was the easiest target, Pollard said.
“He was chasing him, shooting in the air and at other cars,” Pollard said.
Bexar County sheriff's Sgt. Lisa Castellano, who was working off-duty as a security guard at the Mayan Palace, chased the gunman toward the back of the theater and cornered him after he ran into a men's restroom, shooting him several times and taking his gun, Pollard said.
STACY -IT'S all about political move to dis arm America, that's why thy focused on the children so much and the media play's right along with the government, and so focused on sandy school that they would not give the families time to grieve, they should sew the media, but red tape law's would step in and chop it out, this government is pushing for socialism coming soon to a theater near you and me A-MAN !
Henrik, our violence rates are not drastically higher than in other countries. If, a person knew that 80% of the people watching the movie in the theater was carrying a handgun, do you actually believe that they would still walk on in and pull their gun out? The same goes for the restaurant setting. Am I advocating for more guns? No. I am saying that taking guns completely away from the public does not solve the crimes of violence. It merely shifts the method to some other tool. Perhaps something like a water borne poison or pathogen.
Ridiculous!! You poeple have kicked God out of the school system yet want God to be there when you want him. PATHETIC!!
God has never been in school and he has never been out...
your idea of him is childish at best...
Oh well Jesus said you must become as a little child to enter into the kingdom of God
Luke18:17... Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
Who are 'you people' and when did they kick the Allmighty powerful omniscient Creator out of school? I find it amazing that this group which you refer to as 'you people' managed to do this! Was he chewing gum and didn't bring enough for the rest of the class? Did the 'you people' use a gun? Would arming the teachers allow for God to return to the class without the 'you people' harassing him?
Do you not see how insane you sound?