December 16th, 2012
09:56 AM ET
Huckabee: Lack of religion in classroom leads to violence in schools
(CNN) - Responding to the deadly mass shooting Friday in Newtown, Connecticut, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said new laws regulating guns won't deter such shootings, linking a lack of religious discussion in the classroom to increased violence in schools.
"We ask why there's violence in our school but we've systematically removed God from our schools," Huckabee said on Fox News. "Should we be so surprised that schools have become such a place of carnage? Because we've made it a place where we don't want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability."
"That we're not just gonna have to be accountable to the police if they catch us but one day we stand before a holy God in judgment. If we don't believe that, then we don't fear that," he said.
"People are going to want to pass new laws," Huckabee continued. "This is a heart issue ... laws don't change this kind of thing."FULL STORY
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Which God? ..Christian right? ....ok.... now which denomination? if its a generic prayer, without a specific set of rituals, will it still be valid?.. I ask because the Heavenly censors seem to be a bit high. Please tell us which words to use to finally get a call through to God. Or maybe we have to sing a hymn along with that prayer...maybe thats the ticket! ...and maybe they can pass the Tray around the classroom as well! those that dont pray,sing or pay can be readily identified as the Enemy..good plan...
All religion does is polarize a population, breaks society down to "us and them" – and gets the republicans votes....
It's not the duty of our public school system to teach a child right from wrong, that duty lies in the home. If he isn't getting nurturing at home then there's nothing the school system can do to correct that and certainly not by religious brain washing.
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I believe most Europeans and Asians have some Neanderthal genetics.
I believe most Europeans and Asians have some N-eanderthal genetics.
Blame the victims. What a christian thing to do.
I agree with Huckabee about bringing our views of religion back into the classroom.
I'm an atheist, and I think it's because we've kicked atheists out of the schoolroom, that this country has so many problems. We need to get back to teaching our children good, old-fashioned atheist values.
Looks like the Huckster's 100K check from the NRA finally cleared. Thank you, Fox Fake News, for giving this vile piece of filth a national stage. But then again, that's what you do best.
Hey Mr. H..Shut your pie hole.
Y'all have to listen to the backwood wisdom of Arkansaw, ya' hear ?
Huckabee is a cretin and a liar
This kid was homeschooled, and Huckabee's own son has been caught demonstrating sadistic behavior comon to some of these killers (torturing and kiling dogs), so he take care of business at home.
This is an aside – a couple of days ago in an unrelated context I checked out the etymology of cretin. It's actually just a form of "Christian".
I'm not making any point here, just thought it interesting. Well, except maybe calling Huckabee won't insult him that much. It was a medical term which has been abandoned now as derogatory.
Lack of religion....can't go with that,
Perhaps a lack of morals being taught in society would be more accurate. But religion doesn't hold the monopoly on morality.
In fact many times religions give the crazies more delusional reasons to do crazy, immoral things
Mike Huckabee's remarks are ridiculous. Even if we chose to interject religious dogma into the classroom, which religion is appropriate? Assuming we chose Christianity, which denomination? Besides, creationists are already trying to muscle their Intelligent Design pseudo science into science class. Do we really need more of it?
Niknak: Lack of effective gun laws and a culture of violence leads to more school shootings.
Huckabee – words fail me. What an idiotic, self-serving, nincompoop thing to say. Go sit in the corner. Stay there. Forever.
He is just trying to get his name out there because he has to renegociate his Fix news contract soon.
Nothing helps like feeding the base more red meat.
Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head by religious extremists for going to school and defying her Imams – Is this how religion teaches us how to respect for each other? Not long ago we heard about the shooting in an Amish community – Christians are not immune to this as well. Christianity has taught us only one thing, and one thing only, since its inception just over 2000 years ago – wait the answer is coming!
Um – Mike – The Bible says to beat your swords into plowshares and your spears into pruning hooks. What part of that don't you get? Aren't you a minister? Mike that makes you an ala carte Christian at best or a hypocrite at worst.
I stuck my spear into a pruning hook once. OUCH! Thanks a lot Yahweh.
"Huckabee: Lack of religion in classroom leads to violence in schools" -must be why Canada and Sweden and others have such low violent crime rates. Oh, wait.
Huckabee is both ignorant and deluded. Good thing he is history in major politics, sorry history at that.
Most of the people you hear saying these kinds of ignorant thing know almost nothing about what takes place outside US borders...or are manipulators catering to that group of simpletons.
He does realize that the violence in Newton was caused by an adult and not one of the kids not getting enough religion, doesn't he? It's a bit out of context.
Apparently he DOES NOT realize that. And it's doubtful that no one could ever convience him differently. He's set in his ways, just as some/most of us are, and when it comes to changing our minds about things like this it's close to impossible.
Ok Mike, let's put religion back in our schools.
"Ok children, here are your prayer mats, get on your hands and knees and face Mecca"
Says math teacher Mohammed Azir.
Look to our founders words and words written on our publice buildings "IN God We Trust" and when since we have taken Him out of our places of every day life (each still chosing to worship how, when and what they may) we have seen more and more evil and lack of personal responsibility happening. How can a nation take God out and yet turn to Him when evil hits??? Mike Huckabee is right on in my books!!! more laws will not change a thing. We have laws and God told us a long time ago in His laws "Thous shalt not kill" we have to teach this in our homes, schools, public places etc. etc. Wake up America! gun legislation will not change things! This evil doer would have found a way to do his dastardly deed...
mm-ignorant, -must be why Canada and Sweden and others have such low violent crime rates. Oh, wait.
Huckabee is both ignorant and deluded. Good thing he is history in major politics, sorry history at that. You look even more stupid by supporting his obvious nonsense.
"God told us a long time ago in His laws "Thous shalt not kill" "
Yeah, then he turned right around an d told the Hebrew chillun to slaughter everyone who stood in the way of their conquest of Canaan. Go back and read Joshua if you want an account of a serious bloodbath. Real consistent, that God.
"Look to our founders words and words written on our publice buildings "IN God We Trust""
Congratulations, you are the dumbest poster of the day.
The founding fathers did not put in god we trust, under god, or any other stupid magic fairy crap on anything. All that cowardly nonsense was added decades after the founding of this country.
I would like to hear Mikee's explanation as to why the more secular G20 countries have lower crime and murder rates than the US, why atheists have lower incarceration rates than religitards, and why the red states have higher crime, divorce and teen pregnancy rates than the blues states.
Maybe we would see crime go down if we outlawed religion altogether.
Possibly, but let's not.
HUMMMMM, I'd like to know where you get your 'facts'....I think you will find more killings (abortions), more divorces, more living together w/o marriage, more dishonesty in public offices and more deep in debt to the hilt in blue states...start wih California, threatening bankruptcy where as red state Texas leads out in so many ways it could stand alone as a country in and of itself.!!! It would appear to me religion DoES matter. Personal responsibilty goes hand-in-hand with religion and respect for life and other's lives.
Religion is not, and never has been, necessary for being personally responsible for one's actions in life.
" I'd like to know where you get your 'facts'"
The US census website.
And abortion is not murder. If it were, it would be illegal. Only fundie nitwits think it is illegal.
I'm sure glad that HE never became president. Too bad that his faith hasn't taught him anything about compassion or empathy. I know that freedom of speech means he can say stupid things like this, but we ALL have a right to freedom of speech – so we have the right to condemn him for his stupidity. After they've been victims of one nut job, the last thing these people need to hear is another nut job saying that they brought it on themselves.
You are attacking with lack of respect or understanding of your own, and you are certainly taking your freedom of speech I would say 'wrecklessly'. I don't for a second think that Mr. Huckabee is blameing the victims for bringing the tragedy upon themselves, he is stating the facts. Wheather you want to admt it or not, crime and evil and lack of personal responsibity have sky-rocketed in the past 20 years closely connected to our people taking God and His guidelines out of schools, office places and pubic places. Nobody ever was forced to go to church that is and always has been a personal choice; but we as Christians are having it forced down our throats to bow to non-believers thoughts. Go to Washington D.C. and read on the buildings and then you try to tell me, we are not a God-fearing, Christian nation. When people try to cange this, we reap the evil............
Prayer nor god were ever removed from the schools. What was removed was the ability of the school to preach and indoctrinate in one particular religion.
JWT: Precisely. What was taken away was the ability to force schoolkids to recite a prayer every day that probably meant very little to them anyway. You want your kids to learn religion? Fine, teach them in the home and in Sunday school, don't force feed it to them in the school system.
"Wheather you want to admt it or not, crime and evil and lack of personal responsibity have sky-rocketed in the past 20 years closely connected to our people taking God and His guidelines out of schools, office places and pubic places"
Crime has skyrocketed in places where religion still plays huge role. In the more secular blue states, crime has gone down. In Countries all across Europe who are far more secular than we are, crime rats are a fraction of what they are in our red states.
You are complete and total moron who ignores any and all real statistics.