December 23rd, 2012
12:56 PM ET

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  1. Philip

    No. I was speaking more-along the lines of what I said. What has come-out of US listening to and following the teachers of immorality?
    AIDS pandemic spready via wanton se x and needle sharers.
    WARS brought-about ny the immoral teaching that Peace is attainable through warfare.
    FOOD SHORTAGES brought-about by those who follow the immoral teaching that 'Gredd is Good'. Over half of the world's families subside on 3-4 dollars per day, while a nationwide obesity epidemic spreads to children and family pets here in the USA.
    Countless lives have been lost by following the immoral teaching that modern-day Israelis are "God's chosen" and must be protected at the cost of American lives.
    There are many examples of what immorality has taught us, and what happens to the followers of immorality.

    December 24, 2012 at 10:24 am |
    • mama k

      The pope should come out officially in support of the use of contraception. People are bringing too many children into this already over-populated world. People that, as "parents", are unable to take the time to instill morals into their children's lives. If children are not going to learn morals from their parents, they certainly are not going to learn them in public schools. Public schools, where the only thing that should be taught are things common to people of all beliefs, like English, math, and science.

      December 24, 2012 at 10:41 am |
  2. Philip

    But yeah, I can see where just the mention of God brings with it rejection.
    Americans are taught that God has a burning hell or a cloudy heaven awaiting you at death. This is simply not how the bible describes it.
    Besides, who would even want to bow to a burning hellfire extortionist god? Or a dummy-god that says he made everything in just a few days. (Again, nowhere does the bible say how long God spent creating the universe. AFTER he created it, He and his son spent a few of THEIR days making the earth habitable by man, and then making ONLY one man. No, we are NOT all "God's children"as religions teach. Only a few have disowned their fleshly fathers and leaders and now follow God's commands RATHER than those commands to kill for "god&country" and breed like dogs.

    December 24, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • Really??

      Men created your god, men created your bible. Men have created every god that has ever existed.

      December 24, 2012 at 10:15 am |
    • 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

      Philip clearly has at least one hand on The Babble – is the other reaching for a gun?

      December 24, 2012 at 10:21 am |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Philip", but "God" is an element of mythology. I see that you repeat these unfounded statements with high frequency. Perhaps the following book can help you:

      I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...

      December 24, 2012 at 10:23 am |
  3. Philip

    Again, what good things have come from US listening to and following the words of those who teach immorality?
    Cat got tongue?

    December 24, 2012 at 10:03 am |
    • Really??

      You mean like the immorality of allowing someone else to accespt your just punishment (like your Jesus?) for example. Or the immorality of teaching religious theories and stories as if they were truth?

      December 24, 2012 at 10:11 am |
  4. 0G-No gods, ghosts, goblins or ghouls

    People,observe the ranting of Philip – the product of a brain rotted by the god myth.

    December 24, 2012 at 10:01 am |
  5. Philip

    @WASP. You assume a free market. Only 5% of crude oil is used for making gasoline for our cars. But when the price of OPEC oil goes up, gasoline prices skyrocket, the other oil-based product prices remain the same.
    Above, I already covered food distribution not being based on a free market, but rather one controlled by military force.
    And by now, with Ron Paul running for president and screaming in our ears "one foreign bank controls the US ECONONOMY and all of the worlds federal reserves/central banks" and not counting LIBOR banksters defrauding US OUT OF Trillions, everyone should know by now that the stock market is a shell game. Our market is legally manipulated by our leaders, many of whom write our laws.

    December 24, 2012 at 9:59 am |
    • WASP

      @philip: seek help, seriously. you sound delusional...........well paranoid at best.
      don't worry the "man" isn't out to get you.
      america does have a "free market" however people have learned how to manipulate the american population into buying certain goods by manipulating what information is leaked out by their companies.
      would people buy "sweet n low" if it was plastered across their commerical that the leading ingredient in "sweet n low" called sacrine causes cancer?

      December 24, 2012 at 10:06 am |
  6. Philip

    angst. tuff guy, eh? he he
    Are you a therapist, @frank? ๐Ÿ™‚

    December 24, 2012 at 9:50 am |
  7. Philip

    All I see are bad things coming from immoral teachings.
    I see 50 million legalized abortions since the teaching of "Free se x and drugs" swept the USA circa 1960 and an AIDS pandemic along w/STDs being the "benefits" promised by teachers of immorality.

    December 24, 2012 at 9:47 am |
    • WASP

      @philip: then i would say you should start at home and teach your children to "be moral" thus they won't breed and your ignorance can die out.
      thanks for your help in contributing to our immoral world by purchasing all of our immoral products.
      we do love your money regardless of your ignorance. ๐Ÿ™‚

      December 24, 2012 at 9:52 am |
  8. Philip

    @hal. Yeah. That's already been covered. I was asking what hope teachers of immorality hold-out for mankind.

    December 24, 2012 at 9:43 am |
  9. Philip

    I didn't say "evil". I said "failed to keep promise" has modern technology. A loaf of bread was supposed to cost 5 cents by now. What happened? (and don't say "population explosion". The earth produces over 3 times the food we need. The problem is in food distribution dept. It seems our distributor thinks most of the food should go to countries deep in debt and overly obese. Let's fire the distributor and hire a good man)

    December 24, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • frank

      I see now where all this angst is coming from – food distribution. I should have known.

      December 24, 2012 at 9:43 am |
  10. Philip

    The immoral teaching of Peace through War has cost the lives and added-to the sufferings of BILLIONS of decent folks over the centuries.
    Warmongering religions and states have combined forced throughout history and have together CONNED mankind into believing True Peace and Security is obtained by way of invading and occupying foreign lands. But look! Your own inner-city security is neglected as huge fortunes of ours are spent on Israel and rebuilding nations US military bombed down.
    Once the last nation on earth get's occupied, there will be no more need for war. Hence, militaristic governments will have no need for holy men to preach our children onto the battlefield to die for a god&country.
    Get ready folks. Organized religions are going to be outlawed...abolished! This for the blood of innocents slain in bloody religious wars. Take-away organized religion, and the ME almost looks peaceful. Less churchboys rayped here too.

    December 24, 2012 at 9:32 am |

    • "rayped"?? Do you mean raped?

      December 24, 2012 at 9:41 am |
  11. Philip

    Nor did the "Holy See" pope see these things coming. If the pope can "Holy See", why didn't he see priests switching from girls to boys and do something about it before 11 RCC archdiocese went BK over boy victim lawsuits?
    This "pope" of yours does not represent Christ Jesus. You can tell that just by looking at him.

    December 24, 2012 at 9:15 am |
    • frank

      "why didn't he see priests switching from girls to boys"

      ??? so se xual abuse of girls would have been ok ???

      December 24, 2012 at 9:33 am |
    • A Shrubbery

      That's exactly what he means. He is the biggest misogynist alive. Trust me, his posts on This Just In are famous for his strange thoughts.

      December 24, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
  12. Philip

    Where is this "good life" advanced technologiy promised? What? You have 4 TV's now? A bigger SUV? a bigger house than you need or can't afford w/o taking something else away...like mom staying home with the kids MUST work to live in mansion? THIS is what high tech brings with it. The common cold has not been cured by high-tech, though billions spent trying. (AIDS is worse) High-tech didn't stop US from going nationwide with our obesity and debt, now, did it!
    No matter your gadjets and best-made dreams, man simply does not have the capacity to lead himself without falling into a pit.

    December 24, 2012 at 9:09 am |
    • midwest rail

      No technology has ever been able to protect man from himself. I'm sure your rant felt good, but unless you are willing to abstain from modern medicine, the computer you used to post your rant, and countless other modern "evils" , it was nothing more than a feel-good tirade.

      December 24, 2012 at 9:21 am |
    • WASP

      @pilihp: i would recommend some light reading for you into the world of biology.
      if you research DELTA 32 you will find it's a genetic deterent to illness.
      if you research virus' such as the rhinovirus you will find that it mutates (aka adapts) far faster than bacterial forms of infection.
      however due to frantic parents rushing their children to the emergency room every time they have a slight cough to get a penicillin shot has caused these once easily treated bacteria to mutate (aka adapt) to the penicillin making them "super-germs"

      as far as american obesity; two things changed from 2000 years ago.
      1) we have a more stagnat life style seeing we have technology.
      2) what you shove into your face as far as high calorie foods, result if you sit eating twinkies all day and not burn those calories your body doing what nature designed it for stores those calories for later use.
      3) (just a add-on) if your god designed you then you shouldn't get fat from eating anything on this planet seeing he designed everything for our consumption correct? thus there shouldn't be ALLERGIES, some life endangering if god designed humans along with this world.

      December 24, 2012 at 9:35 am |
  13. Philip

    If earth's future remains in the hands of imperfect men, with many of our leaders not-only being 'imperfect', but being downright greedy scoundrels (even convicted child raypers as religious leaders), of what do we have to look-forward to?
    What other genuine and written promised hope is there for mankind if not for that found in God's word the bible?

    December 24, 2012 at 8:59 am |
    • hal 9001

      I'm sorry, "Philip", but "God" and "God's word" are elements of mythology. Therefore the only kind of "hope" that is obtainable from the "bible" is false hope. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your assertions may represent true statements is: "EPIC FAIL".

      December 24, 2012 at 9:39 am |
  14. Philip

    And the immoral majority has taught us what? What good things have the teachings of non-believers brought to us as humans?
    Immoral (as described in the bible) teachings have brought us disease and financial ruin. And so if there is no God we are toast.

    December 24, 2012 at 8:52 am |
    • WASP

      @phil: ummmmmmmmmmm
      i think madam currie, louie pasture, and thousands of other scienctists may have a few things to say to that statement.....................namely NEVER GET ANY KIND OF MEDICAL HELP EVER.
      as far as financial ruin; that would be just bluntly greedy people.
      the farmer wants more for the work he puts into raising grain or live stock, thus the market has to pay him more.
      so the market has to make up the cost of paying the farmer more so he charges the customer more.
      seeing the customer has to pay more in food he requests more money for his labour at work, which the farmer sees as him not making enough for his work out in the fields.
      it's an endless cycle that feeds upon itself.

      December 24, 2012 at 9:49 am |
  15. Reality

    And as in the previous story:

    B16 can pardon all he wants, we will not pardon him for promulgating the infamous resurrection con:

    To wit: (only for the new members of this blog)

    From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

    Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

    To wit;

    From a major Catholic university's theology professorโ€™s grad school white-board notes:

    "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly โ€“ earth bound distractions.
    Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

    Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

    Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

    The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

    Only Luke records it. (Luke mentions it in his gospel and Acts, i.e. a single attestation and therefore historically untenable). The Ascension ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers.

    The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

    "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."

    The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

    With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

    An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,


    "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

    p.168. by Ted Peters:

    Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

    So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

    December 22, 2012 at 8:51 am | Report abuse | Reply


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  16. Angel Moronic

    The butler got off scotch free ?? Back in the old days he would had to cough up at least several gold coins to buy his way out

    December 24, 2012 at 12:25 am |
  17. tallulah13

    Didn't they already run this story?

    December 23, 2012 at 7:19 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      sure did. but CNN and all news agencies are pro-christianity and print these fluff pieces constantly. to any christians that say CNN is anti-christian - LOL! count how many of these stories there are. i know you get mad when there's a story about a church official protecting child molesters because it gives you a black eye - but it's news. it's what happened. it's not an anti-christian story - it's news. so enjoy CNN kissing your @ss and stop crying about a bias that doesn't exist.

      December 23, 2012 at 11:39 pm |
  18. Apple Bush

    You know better than the pope?

    December 23, 2012 at 6:20 pm |
  19. Some assembly required

    Did Popes and Antipopes ever meet? If so, why did they not annihilate each other?

    December 23, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • WASP

      @some: ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD
      thanks i needed a good laugh.
      i had the image of the pope and anti-pope in a gun battle like louis and stewie during the whitehouse episode. lmfao

      December 24, 2012 at 9:40 am |
  20. Bootyfunk

    he just doesn't want the butler to tell people about all the little boys taken to the pope's chambers late at night...

    December 23, 2012 at 1:39 pm |
    • there is no other truth but truth absolute, and truth absolute is LORD AND GOD OF THE WORLD.

      No, they were nu ns.

      December 23, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
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