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January 10th, 2013
12:07 PM ET
Giglio bows out of inauguration over sermon on gaysBy Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Editor Giglio informed inauguration officials Thursday morning of his decision to withdraw from the ceremony, an inauguration official told CNN. "I am honored to have been invited by the president to give the benediction at the upcoming inauguration on January 21," Giglio said in a statement delivered to the White House and the Presidential Inaugural Committee. "Though the president and I do not agree on every issue, we have fashioned a friendship around common goals and ideals, most notably, ending slavery in all its forms." "Due to a message of mine that has surfaced from 15-20 years ago, it is likely that my participation, and the prayer I would offer, will be dwarfed by those seeking to make their agenda a focal point of the inauguration. Clearly, speaking on this issue has not been in the range of my priorities in the past fifteen years. Instead, my aim has been to call people to ultimate significance as we make much of Jesus Christ." Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter Giglio, a pastor and the leader of the Passion Movement, was chosen to deliver the benediction because he's a "powerful voice for ending human trafficking and global sex slavery" and due to his work in mobilizing young people in that effort, an inauguration official said earlier in the week when the reverend's selection was first announced. Criticism over the selection swirled after the liberal website Think Progress posted a sermon that it said Giglio gave in the mid-1990s, a speech the site called "vehemently anti-gay." A spokeswoman for the Presidential Inaugural Committee said the committee was "not aware of Pastor Giglio's past comments at the time of his selection and they don't reflect our desire to celebrate the strength and diversity of our country at this Inaugural." "As we now work to select someone to deliver the benediction, we will ensure their beliefs reflect this administration's vision of inclusion and acceptance for all Americans," said PIC spokeswoman Addie Whisenant. In an audio copy of the sermon posted on the Think Progress website, a voice identified as that of Giglio's called homosexuality a sin. "That's God's voice. If you want to hear God's voice, that is his voice to this issue of homosexuality. It is not ambiguous and unclear. It is very clear." "If you look at the counsel of the word of God, Old Testament, New Testament, you come quickly to the conclusion that homosexuality is not an alternate lifestyle... homosexuality is not just a sexual preference, homosexuality is not gay, but homosexuality is sin. It is sin in the eyes of God, and it is sin according to the word of God." The recording continues: "The only way out of a homosexual lifestyle, the only way out of a relationship that has been ingrained over years of time, is through the healing power of Jesus." CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories "We've got to say to the homosexuals, the same thing that I say to you and that you would say to me... it's not easy to change, but it is possible to change," he can also be heard saying during the sermon. Giglio is a rising voice in evangelical Christianity. Last week, the Passion conference, which he founded, wrapped up its annual event for college students in Atlanta, with more than 60,000 students attending and vowing to end global slavery. They raised $3 million for charities that work to stop slavery and aid its victims. Giglio said Thursday that he and his team don't feel "it best serves the core message and goals we are seeking to accomplish to be in a fight on an issue not of our choosing; thus I respectfully withdraw my acceptance of the president's invitation." "I will continue to pray regularly for the president, and urge the nation to do so. I will most certainly pray for him on Inauguration Day," Giglio's statement to the White House continued. "Our nation is deeply divided and hurting, and more than ever need God's grace and mercy in our time of need," it concluded. Giglio took to his church blog Thursday to further explain his position to his congregants at Passion City Church in Atlanta. "The issue of homosexuality (which a particular message of mine some 20 years ago addressed) is one of the most difficult our nation will navigate. However, individuals' rights of freedom, and the collective right to hold differing views on any subject is a critical balance we, as a people, must recover and preserve," he wrote. He asserted that his main goal as a pastor was to love people. "I'm confident that anyone who knows me or has listened to the multitude of messages I have given in the last decade would most likely conclude that I am not easily characterized as being opposed to people - any people. Rather, I am constantly seeking to understand where all people are coming from and how to best serve them as I point them to Jesus." Chad Griffin, president of the Human Rights Campaign, said Giglio's decision to withdraw was the right one. "Participants in the inaugural festivities should unite rather than divide. Choosing an affirming and fair-minded voice as his replacement would be in keeping with the tone the president wants to set for his inaugural," Griffin said in a statement. Giglio represents a new type of evangelical leader who "doesn't like to get involved in the culture war because it blurs the larger points he wants to make," said Michael Cromartie, the vice president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington. "What I want to remind his critics is he's not being named to a Cabinet position," Cromartie said. "He was being asked to deliver a prayer. All sorts of people deliver prayers who we don't agree with on a number of issues." "It's unfortunate that this kind of political correctness doesn't allow people who are doing great work to pray at inauguration," he added. CNN's Athena Jones contributed to this report |
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Another win for the "we should all be tolerant of everyone except for the christians" crowd. Well done.
Absolutely as it should be.
You have confronted the Prison Guards Dilema
When your power is removed by force, your pleas for mercy will be ignored.
When you had power, you were arrogant, so rest assured if they disarm you, they WILL kill you.
You created the jungle and its laws, your cries for civilized behavior once you are dethroned will fall upon deaf ears and gleefull killers.
The dude chose to bow out. No one twisted his arm. Always amusing to watch you people play the persecution card when you've been stood up to.
Right, because if they'd chosen an imam who'd given talks on killing the infidels we'd all be giving him a pass. Sure.
Stupid... looks like tolerance and inclusion is the way to be unless of course you don't agree with their idea of it. Then you are excluded... dumb politics and political correctness. Jesus Christ himself would not be included!! arg Good luck finding someone everyone will be happy with.. dumb! On a bite note this pastor will get some good press on the work he is doing...i had no idea who he was before this.
By you're logic we shouldn't have any standards at all – I love how people fall back on moral relativism when it suits them.
Why should we be tolerant of those who purposefully choose to be intolerant?
Where are all the secularists? Why is banning school prayer OK, but acceptable to pray at an iinauguration? I say no religious activity at a publicly funded event. Prayer at publicly funded schools equals violation of church and state separation, then so does prayer at a publicly funded event.
I think most secularists are busy fighting battles they can win...at this time, this one is a loser. Maybe in a few years.
Because we know Obama is really an Athiest, and we need to be patient
Change takes time.
Break the back of the right, THEN force the culture to change.
Praying at an inauguration is not Congress making a law respecting the establishment of religion. If anything, it is the "free exercise" thereof.
maybe if we get str8 people to stop breeding gays wouldnt be such a problem.
Yeah, we need to do something about these damn straight people, causing all these problems.
More abortions, check.
By definition I believe gays are already doing their part in reducing surplus reproduction
@lol?? – the moment the fundies find a way to test for homosexuality in the womb, they'll begin to love abortion and find a way to prove that the bible supports it.
Gays are not the problem.
Why is religion involved with the inauguration of the president of my country? Don't even talk about this thing being "all-inclusive" – it's not.
Yup – No prayer at a publicly funded event.
It's dumb, but would you want to be the party that first threw it out? Especially as a president that a few million nitwits still think is Muslim? It's going to be an election or two more before this one's put to rest.
people's views change. big deal.
Or more likely, people lie when their bigotry is exposed.
The Big O Tries, but he's only a man.
bill, not necessarily. long ago when i was in the military i was vocally anti-gay. not because i had any real reason to be, but because it was the male macho military thing to do. then one day my wife came to me and told me that an old friend was afraid for me to find out that she was gay. i was ashamed and i realized then and there that the label of deviant or sinful was just plain BS.
So Snow, you really din't change, you just stop doing what you thought was expected.
Honorable men ALWAYS error on the side of freedom, but often are pressured to either comply or remain silent.
I am not a fan of gay marriage, and I suspect I shall never percieve it as being "real" or "normal" marriage, but I am very much Pro Gay Marriage, becaue I realize at the end of the day it really isn't any of my buisness at all, and freedom is REALLY important.
When in doubt, choose the path of more freedom, you will rarely go wrong.
Mr Demuth & snowboarder, you have both affirmed my faith in humanity.
Did he say his views had changed?
Tim is the Destroyer of Worlds. He cares not about social issues. But, Tim often makes fun of mindless dolts who spin archaic religious doctrine into agendas of intolerance or ignorance. Ferretianism is the one true religion. Repent!
http://www.banjoferret.com
How about some freedom from religion and separation of church (or like I like to call it – Story Book Land) and state!
All Gods are false Gods – especially yours!
Problem is the progressives morphed the gubmint into a god. It's in charge of everything.
Sin is geographical, but it definitely includes hate, something Jesus commanded foremost against, Oh loving pastor.
Sin is geographical and bulls33t is metaphsical!
What dreck
Is love not hate?.........."1Jo 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him."
The voice of reason thinly veiled as an overactive forum troll: William Demuth
thanks Reverend Giglio for sticking to your messgae. God teaches us not to judge anyone who's sin is different from our own. But to recognize and ask forgiveness for our sins. And to not bend to the popular "politically correct". Never confuse the will of the majority with the will of God. I will never sway from those beliefs, no matter what society tries to tell me. First and foremost in my life is God. I do not now, nor will I EVER apologize for it.
Good, I'll adopt Mesopotamian Ancient Law and look down my nose at you, genius.
Never think you have authority to preach to anyone about god
You must have an awfully shiddy life if the most imprtant thing in it is an imaginary friend.
I think if you did some research you would find that god adapts to the society he wants to infiltrate.
Unfortunately Bails, most of society takes the easy way out and adopts the politically correct road. To many liberals there are few things that are either right or wrong – their world is simply gray. Everything is a personal choice unless, of course, it is a conservative view – then they are certain that the view is wrong. At that point they show their kindness and acceptance and mock or insult the person with that view.
Years from now, sociologists and mental health professionals will categorize your statement as a severe delusional mental disorder.
What interesting generalizations, John.
It will be hard to find ANYONE who isn't opiniated to deliver the benediction that won't offend ANYONE in this unfortunate 1st world country. If a Christian pastor delivers the benediction, what about the muslim community? Will he find a pastor that has never spoken against abortion? Good luck, Obama. Might as well give your own benediction.
Hows about we dump the mumbo jumbo and grow up as a country?
The "wegod" makes another appearance.
Yes, it would certainly make more sense to drop the whole thing, but I don't think it will happen this go around.
"no state sponsored religion" AT ALL!
You sure are ignorant. You must have voted in the last election.
"You sure are ignorant. You must have voted in the last election.
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Another neotard who skipped the 1st amendment and went right to the second.
As ANYONE here actually listened to ALL of Rev. Giglio's sermon ???
I have !
His is a message of LOVE, not hate ! It is ABOUT Love !
EXCEPT for Gays?
Love alright my ass. He may as well get in the same circle jerk as Graham and Romney.
Before you comment on my post, you might want to actually LISTEN to what
Rev. Giglio's said in his sermon. So AT LEAST you can speak to the FACTS.
Thoughts based just on this distorted article mean nothing.
"Before you comment on my post, you might want to actually LISTEN to what
Rev. Giglio's said in his sermon. So AT LEAST you can speak to the FACTS"
His sermon is quoted in the articleabove moron.
Maybe you should have read it.
derp
"Before you comment on my post, you might want to actually LISTEN to what
Rev. Giglio's said in his sermon. So AT LEAST you can speak to the FACTS"
His sermon is quoted in the articleabove moron.
Maybe you should have read it.
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Oh yes...... sorry........I see that ALL 54 minutes of his sermon where quoted ???
I stand by my original statement.
Thoughts based just on this distorted article mean nothing.
Gays have made Freedom of Speech a thing of the past. More bigoted and imposing than the rest.
Funny coming from a faith that used to burn old ladies at the stake.
Just remember what goes around goes around, and LOTS of people might feel more than a little reprimand was justified by this mans intrusions into their private lives.
I would LOVE to see a mob of gays burn his church down while he was in it
You see his position caused real harm to TENS OF THOUSANDS of kids who were tormented because of Evangelical railing against gays, many of whom took their own lives, some of whom were murdered.
I just hope a few of them want more than just an apology.
I think Saint actually meant "Gays have made it harder for me to use the word 'fag' whenever I feel like it."
Blacks did the same thing to that poor helpless honorable KKK.
Now everybody thinks they are bad just because they exercised their FREEDOM OF SPEECH to suggest the lynching of blacks and Jews.
We should all support the KKK and their freedom of speech against jews, catholics and blacks.
who is being denied freedom of speech, saint?
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I was a little behind the news on this, but was impressed how Louie Giglio handled the situation pretty well. I saw several tweets on it before I had a chance to read the article.
Really like this quote Giglo gave: "Clearly, speaking on this issue has not been in the range of my priorities in the past fifteen years. Instead, my aim has been to call people to ultimate significance as we make much of Jesus Christ."
In other words, Jesus as a shiny object defense.
Flash him around to distract.
As I recall that was often used at Nuremberg.
Didn't work then either.
Nuthin' like h0m0se xuality for getting all the A&A's little soldiers to stand up.
Somewhere between fred and complete stupidity lies the mind of lol??
don't rock yer little man in the boat, sally.
"don't rock yer little man in the boat, sally"
But if you decide to, we'd appreciate pictures.
derp no pictures needed....."2Cr 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)"
And Hagel is still ok for Sec. of Defense with his position on gays 15 years ago? You folks have gone way overboard with this gay thing. Backlash is a coming.
So gays disagree with his position. Does that disqualify him because he does not agree with the lifestyle you have chosen. Sounds like gays are the bigots to me.
Hagel apologized for his remarks. This guy didn't. Now what?
Who don't you expound on this 'backlash'?
Actually, never mind. You have zero idea what you're talking about. Isn't there a good redneck forum you could hang out on insitead?
Lets just say when it comes to "backlash" my money is on the gays
@SCBAMA: You lost all credibility with the "lifestyle you have chosen" remark.
"So gays disagree with his position"
So do we secular straight people.
"Does that disqualify him because he does not agree with the lifestyle you have chosen"
It is not a lifestyle moron, it is an orientation. There is a huge difference. When you call it a lifestyle, all the smart people immediately consider you an idiot.
Sounds like gays are the bigots to me.
That's like saying blacks are bigots for not tolerating the KKK.
Do you have any more stupidity to contribute?
Havel has said he changed his position. This guy, to my knowledge, has said no such thing.
Another bigot bites the dust.
BEING A BIGOT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MERELY HAVING A DIFFERNCE OF OPINION-IF IF CAN.T HANDLE THAT YOU ARE THE ONE WITH THE PROBLEM. OR NOT–WHO REALLY GIVES A SHEITE.
Bigotry is often used to enact laws that discriminate. You can believe what you want, but once discrimination enters the scene, you can expect those who believe in fairness and equality will fight back. Then it will be your problem.
Uh...hey Nam Vet, it takes more than a difference of opinion. If you don't own a dictionary, there are a lot of free ones online to help you with the definition of bigot.
We are all intolerant and judgmental. At least jesus forgives. Will we?
No.
I say we kill our enemies!
It's our favorite human pastime!
William – From reading your posts, I'm praying you have a more peaceful and joy filled life. Life's to short to spend attacking everyone we don't agree with. Have a good one!
Thanks.
I am sure prayer will make all the difference, like it did for those kids in Newton
Paul, good point. Thanks.
This guy (through his work against slavery world-wide) certainly appears to be a good guy. But it just goes to show you that religion is one of the few ideas that can make a good person do or say evil things, like his anti-gay sermon, which I think he did not detract from.
Also, he makes that scary leap forward to state what god's position on it is (anti-gay) and that this position is very clear.
Yeah, he's done some good, and harm, and can't seem to shake the idea that it's not harm.
Since when is stating what is in the Bible wrong?
Hunter – because it's an outdated book of myths and parables?
You have the first Amendment rights to quote whatever book you want, Hunter, but in a situation when you are speaking at a government sponsored event, where not everyone agrees with the edicts of a 2000 year old book of mythology, discretion is generally advisable.
Scary leap? Why is it scary? What if he prayed for gun control would that be scary?
Tallulah
On average the Bible is about 3500 years old, with some entries believed to be over 6000 years old.
In other words WAY older, and thus way less relavent
willam demuth – "where not everyone agrees with the edicts of a 2000 year old book of mythology, discretion is generally advisable."
So using your reasoning if one person disagrees then it should become null and void unless it is for your stance on how things should be. Vile and disgusting.
ezra since you just proved you have poor reading skill your opinion is worthless.