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Opt out option expected for religious insurers who oppose contraceptives
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February 1st, 2013
01:55 AM ET

Opt out option expected for religious insurers who oppose contraceptives

By Dan Merica, CNN

Washington (CNN) - Religiously affiliated organizations will be able to opt out of providing their employees with insurance coverage for contraceptives under updates to an Obama administration mandate that the Department of Health and Human Services is expected to unveil on Friday, according to two sources.

In March, after an uproar among religious institutions that didn't want to pay for contraceptives, the Obama administration offered several policy suggestions that would require the administrator of the insurance policy, not the religious institution or the insurer, to pay for contraception coverage and invited comment on those proposals.

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  1. kevobx

    The 411 is, Cain is the first farmer in the Bible. Believe it or not some one had to tillage the land (Genesis 4:11-12)

    February 4, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
  2. kevobx

    Judah are the Blacks and the Puerto Ricans are Ephraim (*John 11:54*) But it will not be well with the coloreds and the hispanics. The other ten tribes are alive, & waiting. *Jeremiah 5:10 Go ye up upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the Lord's.

    February 4, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
  3. kevobx

    What part of Africa, did all you so called African Americans come out of? White America, can pinpoint what part their lineage came out of, in their own words before they came to America. It's black history month and our people lack knowledge, even though they are eating from the tree of knowledge. The truth sets one free, starting with *John 8:33? And ending with *Amos 9:7? Find your tribe it is your heritage, the other side is culture.

    February 4, 2013 at 12:58 pm |
    • End Religion

      We all came from Africa. 125th Street.

      February 4, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
    • Saraswati

      There's genetic testing available, but very few african americans will trace back to a single region, or even a single race. Even most white americans claim mixed heritage. Identifying yourself based on some remote genetic past is an activity for people lacking a self here and now. We are not our ancestors, and our culture is only marginally related to any of them. Accept and embrace who we are no, and move forward.

      February 4, 2013 at 10:16 pm |
  4. kevobx

    The Most High told us Salem is witchcraft, the red dragon, do you see the Esau red in them yet. The world is cunning *Jeremiah 9:17 and send for cunning women, that they may come. *Genesis 25:27 and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field. *Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one: *Judges 21:24 And the children of Israel departed thence at this time, every man to his tribe and to his family, and they went out from thence every man to his inheritance. *Ruth 1:1* (Remember, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; Esau and Jacob. Your manner is?) *Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

    February 4, 2013 at 12:24 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      so, Hollowed is your fathers name, and he does art in heaven?

      February 4, 2013 at 12:29 pm |
  5. kevobx

    If you are you calling yourself an African American, what part of Africa did you come out of? (*Acts 8:21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.) Satan promotes the north *Psalm 75:6 For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor the west, nor the south. *Jeremiah 13:19-20 The cities of the south shall be shut up, and none shall open them: Lift up your eyes, and behold them that come from the north: Satan works *Exodus 28:6 And they shall make the ephod of gold, of blue, and of purple, of scarlet, and fine twined linen, with cunning work. (The Bible is the black man's historical good book, our black history! The twelve tribes wake up *Psalm 76:1-2 In Judah is God known: his name is great in Israel. In Salem also is his tabernacle, and his dwelling place in zion.

    February 4, 2013 at 11:20 am |
    • End Religion

      We all came from Africa.

      February 4, 2013 at 11:25 am |
  6. kevobx

    Those in the prison houses, meaning all the churches, they are all worshipping him Satan. (*Revelation 13:8*) Satan is great, but where is word of God for all these spiritually dead church folks who enter into their house building. Do you ever answer the Lord and his questions! *Acts 7:49 what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? Please share the scriptures, not doctrines. Mankind calls himself great, for our Lord is lowly and meekly, *Psalm 76:9 When God arose to judgment, to save all the meek of the earth. Selah. *Acts 8:32-33 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as sleep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

    February 3, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
    • End Religion

      Hey you crazy bastard, how's it going in Loonville?

      February 3, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
  7. Reality

    Beyond politics and religion and only for the new members of this blog. For all others, please use your scroll bar.

    The reality of se-x, abortion, contraception and STD/HIV control: – from an agnostic guy who enjoys intelligent se-x-

    Note: Some words hyphenated to defeat an obvious word filter. ...-->>>>>

    The Brutal Effects of Stupidity:

    : The failures of the widely used birth "control" methods i.e. the Pill (8.7% actual failure rate) and male con-dom (17.4% actual failure rate) have led to the large rate of abortions and S-TDs in the USA. Men and women must either recognize their responsibilities by using the Pill or co-ndoms properly and/or use safer methods in order to reduce the epidemics of abortion and S-TDs.- Failure rate statistics provided by the Gut-tmacher Inst-itute. Unfortunately they do not give the statistics for doubling up i.e. using a combination of the Pill and a condom.

    Added information before making your next move:

    from the CDC-2006

    "Se-xually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain a major public health challenge in the United States. While substantial progress has been made in preventing, diagnosing, and treating certain S-TDs in recent years, CDC estimates that approximately 19 million new infections occur each year, almost half of them among young people ages 15 to 24.1 In addition to the physical and psy-ch-ological consequences of S-TDs, these diseases also exact a tremendous economic toll. Direct medical costs as-sociated with STDs in the United States are estimated at up to $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars."

    And from:

    Consumer Reports, January, 2012

    "Yes, or-al se-x is se-x, and it can boost cancer risk-

    Here's a crucial message for teens (and all se-xually active "post-teeners": Or-al se-x carries many of the same risks as va-ginal se-x, including human papilloma virus, or HPV. And HPV may now be overtaking tobacco as the leading cause of or-al cancers in America in people under age 50.

    "Adolescents don’t think or-al se-x is something to worry about," said Bonnie Halpern-Felsher professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco. "They view it as a way to have intimacy without having 's-ex.'" (It should be called the Bill Clinton Syndrome !!)

    Obviously, political leaders in both parties, Planned Parenthood, parents, the "stupid part of the USA" and the educational system have failed miserably on many fronts.

    The most effective forms of contraception, ranked by "Perfect use":

    – (Abstinence, 0% failure rate)
    – (Masturbation, mono or mutual, 0% failure rate)

    Followed by:

    One-month injectable and Implant (both at 0.05 percent)
    Vasectomy and IUD (Mirena) (both at 0.1 percent)
    The Pill, Three-month injectable, and the Patch (all at 0.3 percent)
    Tubal sterilization (at 0.5 percent)
    IUD (Copper-T) (0.6 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Post-ovulation) (1.0 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Symptothermal) and Male condom (both at 2.0 percent)
    Periodic abstinence (Ovulation method) (3.0 percent)

    Every other method ranks below these, including Withdrawal (4.0), Female condom (5.0), Diaphragm (6.0), Periodic abstinence (calendar) (9.0), the Sponge (9.0-20.0, depending on whether the woman using it has had a child in the past), Cervical cap (9.

    February 3, 2013 at 7:47 am |
  8. kevobx

    *Psalm 85:10-11 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other. Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. *Romans 9:28-29 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha. *Isaiah 1:9-10 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. *Psalm 74:20 Have respect unto the covenant: *Hebrews 8:9 because they continued not in my convenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

    February 3, 2013 at 2:51 am |
    • Reality

      The Apostles'/Agnostics’ Creed 2013: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (references used are available upon request)

      February 3, 2013 at 7:49 am |
  9. kevobx

    *Psalm 76:1-3 In Judah is God known: his name is great in Israel. In Salem also is his tabernacle, and his dwelling place in Zion. There brake he the arrows of the bow, the shield, and the sword, and the battle. Selah. *Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; *Hebrews 7:4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. *Proverbs 15:6 In the house of the righteous is much treasure: but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble. *Proverbs 23:23-24 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding. The father of the righteous shall greatly rejoice: *Proverbs 21:16 The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead. *Jeremiah 15:17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.

    February 3, 2013 at 1:48 am |
    • End Religion

      Hey, crazy idiot, how's the snake oil business?

      February 3, 2013 at 2:00 am |
  10. Christine

    Why did scientists make wars more deadly and destructive by inventing nuclear and chemical weapons?

    February 2, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • End Religion

      It's just a step to the ultimate weapon: flooding the entire world and killing everyone on it, just like the God of Israel purportedly did.

      February 2, 2013 at 6:29 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Because science is funded by governments. People tend to like war and killing each other when they run things.

      February 2, 2013 at 6:33 pm |
  11. kevobx

    *Luke 15:14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want. *Amos 8:11-12 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord: And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it. *Isaiah 37:32 For out of Jerusalem shall go forth a remnant, and they that escape out of mount Zion:

    February 2, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
    • End Religion

      Hey, crazy idiot, how's the snake oil business?

      February 2, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
  12. kevobx

    It's the self righteous vs the self centered, see the Esau red in them. The center is the Core, spoken about in *Jude 11* They all love Jesus and the world itself hates Christ. *Acts 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. *Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. *Isaiah 1:27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

    February 2, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • End Religion

      Hey, crazy idiot, how's the snake oil business??

      February 2, 2013 at 4:51 pm |
  13. kevobx

    Self righteous vs the self centered, see the Esau red in them, they put themselves in the middle of everything to conquer. The center is the Core, spoken about in Jude 11. They all love Jesus, but the world itself hates Christ with a passion. *Acts 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. *Acts 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. *Isaiah 1:27 Zion shall be redeemed with judgment, and her converts with righteousness.

    February 2, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
    • Billy

      What?

      February 2, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
  14. donner

    If God is so powerful, why does he need a human government to prop him up?

    February 2, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
  15. SoldierOfConscience

    SCORE

    Atheist : -1
    Freedom of Religion : +1000

    February 2, 2013 at 1:54 pm |
    • Billy

      Yep. I forget where you meant to reply to , but I remember we were talking about level of delusion among the population. I think your numbers might be right.

      February 2, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
  16. kevobx

    *Acts 26:6-7 And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers: Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews. *Jeremiah 18:12-13 And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart. Therefore thus saith the Lord; Ask ye now among heathen, who hath heard such things: the virgin of Israel hath done a very horrible thing. *Acts 26:26 For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner.

    February 2, 2013 at 2:58 am |
    • End Religion

      Good morning, you crazy bastard!

      February 2, 2013 at 7:29 am |
    • Bible Verses

      How cool, it is a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing. I think Willy got it right.

      February 2, 2013 at 9:00 am |
  17. kevobx

    The Bible is the black man's history book? (*Amos 9:7*) It is not a black thing neither a white thing or a gay thing. *Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. *Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. *Luke 15:32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

    February 1, 2013 at 9:35 pm |
    • End Religion

      A fish with wrist bones? All hail Tiktaalik!
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiktaalik
      How did scientists find it? They knew from the Theory of Evolution where such a creature should be, the rock type, how deep, then they dug for more than 3 years.

      February 1, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
  18. kevobx

    Truthfully speaking, or honestly lying. You make the call. By the way what is religious? For our God is righteous: *Romans 10:3*

    February 1, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
    • Akira

      Lots of self-righteous people out there, too.

      February 2, 2013 at 11:27 am |
  19. Susan StoHelit

    All right, I'm going to be a billionaire!

    I'll make my own health insurance company.

    As a devout vegan, I won't cover any claims for anything tested on animals or made using animal products.

    Since that's every possible medical product, I won't ever have to fill a claim. Ethical exemption, donchaknow.

    Then, I'll offer to cut businesses insurance costs in half, and there you go. Tehy pay me half, I do nothing, we're both happy. Employees are screwed, but that's fine, right? You guys don't mind, do you, any more than you minded when it was only the female employees being screwed, right?

    Oh, and to those pretending birth control is $10 a month – that's a lie. One type – that many people cannot take, that probably a majority cannot take – costs that. The rest – try a lot more.

    February 1, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
  20. Chadwatch

    Hey Lady Chad......
    Although Friday is Chad's happy hour, he is a premie, so don't get all worked up or even take your panties off, it will all be over before it begins.

    February 1, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
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