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February 5th, 2013
02:00 AM ET
Saudi Islamist preacher on trial in daughter's slayingBy Mohammed Jamjoom and Saad Abedine, CNN Outrage is mounting in Saudi Arabia about the case of a 5-year-old girl who died after allegedly being beaten and tortured by her father, who activists say is an Islamist preacher. Lama Al-Ghamdi was admitted to King Saud Hospital in Riyadh last March after suffering extensive injuries, including broken ribs, a crushed skull, bruising and burns. Family, activists and officials say she died of her wounds in late October. Activists say the girl's father, Fayhan Al-Ghamdi is an Islamist evangelist popular in Saudi Arabia for his televised appearances and for speaking on air about the rewards of repenting to God. But they also say he only fancies himself as a cleric and is not recognized by the clerical establishment. FULL STORY |
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Pray for the girl who suffered to the end.
This animal should be tried and hung from the gallows at high noon on a hot day in the desert.
It will "warm him up for the fires of hell".
No place in hell is hotter than the space reserved for people who hurt children.
Why?
Prayer doesn't work. Better to work for laws that establish human rights for women and children in places like this, rather than blathering empty wishes to an imaginary god.
Now this will be a well deserved decapitation.
Just curious, what is the "clerical establishment" that would determine who is and is not a cleric?
another day in Saudi paradise.
Thomas Jefferson (POTUS #3, principle author of the Declaration of Independence)
Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.
John Adams (POTUS #2, Patriot of the American Revolution)
I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.
James Madison (POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights)
During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
Thomas Paine (Patriot of the American Revolution)
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church. All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
All so called atheists are liars, so are muslims. Of the two muslims are to be preferred as muslims have some hope of redemption whereas so called atheists are totally useless in this world or the next. The only service a self deluded atheist can offer mankind is to leave this earth by its own hand before causing more harm.
I'm sorry, "truth be told", but your repeated assertions regarding atheism are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your repeated unfounded assertions may represent truths is: "EPIC FAIL". Perhaps the following book can help you cope with the problem of repeating unfounded assertions:
I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
Talking snake, zombie god sun, blood of christ, invisible man in the sky, swallowed and lived in a whale, ship of wood that holds every living animal, burning bush, the list goes on.
Magical being stories presented as real, that is the mother of all lies.
All so called christians are liars, so are gnomes. Of the two gnomes are to be preferred as gnomes have no hope of being real whereas so called christians are totally useless in this world or their imaginary next. The only service a self deluded christian can offer mankind is to leave this earth by its own hand before causing more harm. Preferably in an Arkansas church.
Pray without ceasing in 2013
Prayer changes things
I'm sorry, "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things", but your repeated assertions regarding atheism are unfounded. Using my Idiomatic Expression Equivalency module (IEE), the expression that best matches the degree to which your repeated unfounded assertions may represent truths is: "EPIC FAIL". Perhaps the following book can help you cope with the problem of repeating unfounded assertions:
I'm Told I Have Dementia: What You Can Do... Who You Can Turn to...
Praying is wishing. Some times if makes people feel better, but it ain't gonna bring a dead child back to life or any other tangible things.
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
This is a sad case that could have happened anywhere. The Saudi problem, though, is in the obstacles to prosecution. Without assigning the mother full rights as a person these situations continue where a mother cannot easily protect her child. For those who think there was some perfect earlier time for families here in the US this is precisely the same scenario many faced her 100 and even 50 years ago. Those seemingly random divorces so many right wingers blame on fickle women actually result from women trying to quietly escape lives like this.
Right on.