Pope delivers one of his final messages
Pope Benedict XVI waves as he arrives to lead the Angelus prayer from the window of his appartmnents on February 17, 2013 at the Vatican.
February 17th, 2013
01:57 PM ET

Pope delivers one of his final messages

By Hada Messia and Josh Levs, CNN

(CNN) – Pope Benedict XVI led tens of thousands in a prayer for strength Sunday and thanked followers for their support during his second-to-last Angelus prayer as pontiff.

"Today we contemplate Christ in the desert, fasting, praying, and being tempted," the pope said to an unusually large crowd at St. Peter's Square in Vatican City.

"As we begin our Lenten journey, we join him and we ask him to give us strength to fight our weaknesses. Let me also thank you for the prayers and support you have shown me in these days. May God bless all of you!"

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- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Catholic Church • Pope Benedict XVI

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  1. Correctlycenter

    Read some of these crazy posts which undoubtledy proves that evil does exist, and so does God!

    February 18, 2013 at 6:31 am |
    • ?

      Good and bad exists. It's the nature of humanity.

      February 18, 2013 at 6:41 am |
    • Mirosal

      Just because there are good people and bad people in this world in NO way proves the existence of ANY deity. Long before your "god" was being worshipped, there were good people and bad people. And all those deities that they prayed to, you'll readily admit, do not and never did exist.

      February 18, 2013 at 6:43 am |
    • End Religion

      @CC: you possess the intelligence of a pallet of cinder blocks.

      February 18, 2013 at 6:53 am |
    • ?

      I'll assume you're talking to CC, Mirosal. I worded my post that way for a reason. 😉

      February 18, 2013 at 6:56 am |
    • Mirosal

      @ ER .. be careful with your ana'logies... a pallet of cinder blocks CAN be quite useful for something. However, this "humanoid" (CC) is of no real use whatsoever.
      @ ? ... yes, I was replying to CC's delusional ramblings.

      February 18, 2013 at 6:59 am |
    • ?

      I'd like to know, correctly center of WHAT?

      February 18, 2013 at 7:03 am |
    • lol??

      "? sayz,
      Good and bad exists. It's the nature of humanity.".....Another natural antichrist....."Mar 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God."

      February 18, 2013 at 7:51 am |
    • lol??

      "Mirosal sayz,
      Just because there are good people and bad people in this world.........." More antichrist doctrine.

      "Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God:...."

      February 18, 2013 at 7:54 am |
    • Mirosal

      I was unaware of any "antichrist doctrine". Have you read it? Where can I get a copy of that text?

      February 18, 2013 at 8:01 am |
    • ?

      Lol?? SAYS (because seyz is lazy and illiterate) I am an anti-christ?
      Read the words of Jesus:
      Mathew 7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

      Good and bad are natural conditions of humanity. No anti-christ involed, just an observation on reality, which judging from you posts, you are lacking recognition of.

      February 18, 2013 at 8:03 am |
    • lol??

      mirosol, you must be one of Truth Prevails 🙂 snowflakes. I quoted you the text.

      February 18, 2013 at 8:10 am |
    • Mirosal

      So, your text is a fictional work created BY MAN over the span of 1000 years, and com'piled BY MAN 1700 years ago, translated innumerable times BY MAN into almost every language on the planet, and this is ACCURACY for you? Think of it this way .. you'll readily say that every "god" worshipped by man is false, or doesn't exist, right? Ok then, why would your "god" be any different? Because there's a book about it? That's a valid reason??? Not hardly. Think a little harder next time.

      February 18, 2013 at 8:18 am |
    • lol??

      You'd rather a chimp do it??

      February 18, 2013 at 8:21 am |
    • Mirosal

      Well, there are enough chimps posting on here anyway, what's one more inaccuate translation of a fictional book?

      February 18, 2013 at 8:30 am |
    • lol??

      No argument there. It's like shootin' monkeys in a barrel.

      February 18, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • Mirosal

      Who knows, the chimps might even be more grammatcally correct with fewer typos than some of the "people" on here.

      February 18, 2013 at 8:40 am |
    • sam stone

      only in the minds of people like you, corruptlycenter

      February 18, 2013 at 9:08 am |
  2. Answerman

    The slaves are the obese and the lazy who overeat and use mind-altering drugs such as todays anti-depressants, NOT those following The Way of Jesus Christ and his early followers who refused to take drugs for their depression related issues.
    A nationwide obesity epidemic has spread from these slaves to even children and family pets. Those enslaved to se x also spread STDs and even AIDS. Those enslaved to violence spend long hours playing violent video games or being fans of violent sporting events. Those enslaved to money place their hopes for the future on that money, and do slave for money yet remain deep in debt, and think their own children will inherit that debt and pay it for them.
    The truth is...the vast majority of Americans (even those calling themselves "christians") are slaves of most anything other than The Way of Jesus Christ just as their leaders are not true slaves of Christ. They all slave for and attatch themselves to various corrupt systems of religion in bed with governments and finance.

    February 18, 2013 at 6:14 am |
    • End Religion

      it appears your redefinition of slavery is wide enough to include nearly any activity, which would be the opposite of slavery. You have the logic of a well-watered turnip.

      February 18, 2013 at 6:25 am |
    • Saraswati

      You do realize that a recent study found church goers more likely to be obese?

      February 18, 2013 at 8:49 am |
  3. Answerman

    @End Religion. Yes. Governments will be outlawing organized religions in the near future for it is so written in God's word. (glad we agree on ending orgaized religions) As far as those who are slaves to se x, drugs, and money, yes, even many who call themselves "christians" are slaves to those things as are their religious leaders, and also slaves of warmongers and war machines.
    There is a "Freedom of the sons of God" that no man enslaved to breaking God's laws and remaining enslaved to his own inherited imperfections (sins) could possibly know of and is why you call lovers of Christ Jesus "slaves" without seeing those enslaved to se x, violence, and money. A better example of a "slave" in the sense you use would be more-like an obese man addicted to prescription drugs and flying the flag of whatever country he was born in and a slave for the government of that country. Those who strive to be like Jesus are NOT slaves. They are sheep who know the sound of their master's voice and follow Jesus, not men

    February 18, 2013 at 5:49 am |
    • End Religion

      I don't believe America would outlaw religion, however it certainly doesn't need to give it any special consideration such as a tax-free status. There is nothing "foretold" in the bible. It's just nonsense that idiots apply to whatever makes them feel special, like Nostradamus verses or a Rorschach ink blot. There is no god of israel, enough already.

      February 18, 2013 at 5:57 am |
    • ..

      Shut the fuck up, you insane blowhard. You obviously have no clue at all as to what you're babbling about. Yeah, DON'T follow any laws except God's. Have fun in prison, Bubba.

      February 18, 2013 at 6:00 am |
    • lol??

      Slavery in americult is not mentioned just like you can't say W*H*O*R*E*. Athena and the Educratists are tricky in that way. They aren't followers of "the way". They despise it.

      February 18, 2013 at 7:24 am |
  4. NGB4M

    Love how the poop talks about not being selfish. How much more selfish could the church have been than to cover up decades (centuries?) of abuse?

    February 18, 2013 at 4:11 am |
  5. NGB4M

    And god so loved the world he founded the catholic church, that priests might abuse young boys with impunity.

    February 18, 2013 at 3:48 am |
    • sam stone

      NAMBLA's Vatican City branch

      February 18, 2013 at 4:10 am |
  6. Ungodly Discipline

    If Jesus or especially Paul were alive today, they would be dismissed exactly like the looney tunes standing on the corner preaching to traffic and pedestrians who ignore them. The only miracle Jesus ever preformed was not getting killed sooner.

    February 18, 2013 at 1:45 am |
    • Kenny Log In

      Jesus got pinched right after he told his followers to arm themselves. Judas probably saw Jesus was going Koresh and did the right thing.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:49 am |
    • lol??

      What's alcohol and tobacco got to do with guns besides puritanical socialists??

      February 18, 2013 at 3:18 am |
    • ..

      lol??, are you shitfaced again?

      February 18, 2013 at 5:31 am |
  7. Ungodly Discipline

    Ladies and Gentleman, Topher will now present evidence that proves there is a god and that jesus was the lord. And he won't use the bible which is not evidence. Ok, go ahead Topher...

    February 18, 2013 at 1:37 am |
    • Damocles

      Oh, this should be fun.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:42 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      think I'll go watch "Mulholland Drive" instead.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:46 am |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Ok Topher, when you are ready then....

      February 18, 2013 at 1:56 am |
    • A Grim Fairy Tale

      Today is the story of Topher, the Boy Who Cried Evidence

      A Christian-boy, who watched the Belief Blog, brought out the others three or four times by crying out, "Evidence! Evidence!" and when the others came to see what he had, found sillyness and double-talk.

      One day, Topher thought he really did have evidence, and yelled "Evidence! Evidence!" yet again. But no one wanted to listen to his twisted gibberish, and he was left to mope in his deluded litle bubble.

      There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.

      February 18, 2013 at 2:03 am |
    • lol??

      You do it all the time, fairy.

      February 18, 2013 at 2:55 am |
    • sam stone

      The picture Topher paints indicates his god is a vindictive,petty pr1ck.

      He frequently says "i'm trying to save you from hell, dude"

      This shows that he is a snivelling, slobbering sycophant

      He is amusing, to a point

      February 18, 2013 at 4:14 am |
    • lol??

      A stone talkin'?? Ain't that supernatural??

      February 18, 2013 at 6:59 am |
    • lol??

      That stone idol has an antichrist spirit doin' the mouthin' off.

      February 18, 2013 at 7:00 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Hello Topher! We are waiting. If you post another stupid "What would you like to talk about?" message before providing your much claimed evidence, we will know that you are a liar. I'm betting we don't hear from Topher. . .

      February 18, 2013 at 10:44 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Topher is pulling his usual sh!t over in "cardinals could meet. . ." Again, no evidence for anything, other than his own stupidity, so we (fack off lol??) should consider him a confirmed liar. And delusional mentally ill believer.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:20 pm |
  8. Hal Plotney

    That's slander, Topher. You have posted your "evidence" repeatedly over many months, and it is all just your imagination reinterpreting reality or the circular logic of "the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true." You have never provided anything that even comes close to qualifying as evidence.

    Slander. Lovely. You're a peach of a guy.

    February 18, 2013 at 1:05 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      Misfire. Reposted in the correct spot

      February 18, 2013 at 1:06 am |
    • lol??

      Is slander a replacement gripe for bigot?? Prove it anonymouse. slander bigot.

      February 18, 2013 at 2:53 am |
    • ..

      lol??, you still don't know what a bigot is, do you, you ignorant slut?

      February 18, 2013 at 5:34 am |
  9. HotAirAce

    Just watching Mea Maxima Culpa. The RCC and Pope-A-Dope "The Rat" has been exposed for the pedophile priest protector he was suspected to be. He was wise, but cowardly, to resign. Here's hoping, 'cause prayer is bullsh!t, that he is charged criminally.

    February 18, 2013 at 12:01 am |
  10. Topher

    Good evening, everyone ...

    February 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Hey Topher, no need to discuss Jesus today. We have finally have a consensus and it has been agreed that there is no god. Take care.

      February 17, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
    • Topher

      Based on ... ?

      February 17, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      If there were a God, more people would be interested.

      February 17, 2013 at 11:26 pm |
    • Topher

      Actually, the Bible teaches just the opposite. God is correct again ...

      "13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy[a] that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few."

      February 17, 2013 at 11:32 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Topher, do you even know anything about the history of the bible, who actually wrote it? The books that were omitted and why? It is very far indeed from being inspired by god. Your are very ill-informed. Polite, but dumb. Bless your heart.

      February 17, 2013 at 11:39 pm |
    • Dark Matter

      Jesus is the horrific result of your god's twisted desire to claim the souls of all human beings. Look no further than Jesus to learn where the zombie legend was derived. Indeed he awoke from the dead. The unholy one. The original kiss of death.

      February 17, 2013 at 11:44 pm |
    • Topher

      Ungodly Discipline

      "Topher, do you even know anything about the history of the bible, who actually wrote it? The books that were omitted and why?"

      OK, let's talk about it. I do know about the history of the Bible. As far as the authors, there were 40 different ones, so it depends on which book we're talking about. Generally, though, they were eyewitnesses of the events they wrote about, especially in the NT.

      Omitted books didn't pass the tests they were given. Some were too "new" ... meaning they weren't written soon enough to have been written by whom they claimed to be written by (Gospel of Thomas). Or they taught things that were contrary to books already established as being the Word of God. Things like that.

      February 17, 2013 at 11:48 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Both of your main points are incorrect. I would recommend you study the work of actual scholars for a more enlightened understanding of the origin and evolution of what we now call the bible.

      February 17, 2013 at 11:55 pm |
    • Topher

      I have studied Bible scholars. Which sources are you using?

      February 17, 2013 at 11:56 pm |
    • lol??

      Ungodly Discipline's "wegod" is into sensual consensual pleasures. ............"2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;"

      February 17, 2013 at 11:57 pm |
    • Topher

      What else should we talk about?

      February 18, 2013 at 12:06 am |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Hey Topher, I know you are lying. I would love to talk to someone else though.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:20 am |
    • Topher

      What did I lie about?

      February 18, 2013 at 12:22 am |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Topher, if you had any factual knowledge of the bible you would not be a believer. Therefore you are either lying or you are just really stupid. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Either way, you are very uninteresting to talk to.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:29 am |
    • lol??

      The A&A's are always tryin' to help the Christians and actin' as little servants telling us they haven't "seen" God......"1Jo 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."...... For your own good you only get partial revelations.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:32 am |
    • Topher

      Ungodly Discipline

      I do have factual knowledge and that's WHY I believe. I haven't lied to you. Look it up what I said.

      You don't find this subject fascinating?

      February 18, 2013 at 12:33 am |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      lol??, do yo have any actual original thoughts?

      February 18, 2013 at 12:36 am |
    • lol??

      I've given you some from all the way back to the beginning. That be original origins.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:46 am |
    • Topher

      Any other reasons you have concluded there is no God?

      February 18, 2013 at 12:52 am |
    • Dick Tracy

      Let's talk about the pointlessness of talking to Christians, whose minds are so tightly shut that they will never allow any other possibility.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:53 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      There is absolutely no reason in any way, shape or form to conclude that there is a god. It's that total lack of evidence thing.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:54 am |
    • Topher

      The problem with that is that there's tons of evidence.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:56 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      No, there is none. Not a shred. Everything you claim as "evidence" is either your imagination reinterpreting reality, or the circular logic of a book saying it is true.

      February 18, 2013 at 12:58 am |
    • Topher

      Ah, so you just want to dismiss it without looking into it. That's reasonable.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:00 am |
    • lol??

      Hal likes the dance and then complains about gettin' dizzy. Circular , alright. bigot

      February 18, 2013 at 1:01 am |
    • HotAirAce

      Topher, if you cannot provide evidence to back up your statements about there being facts and lots of evidence for your god then you are mentally ill, a liar or both. So, what are you? Given that you repeatedly initiate these conversations, never deliver the goods, and repeatedly get yor azz handed to you, I'm going with both.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:02 am |
    • lol??

      Comic book dick, just be careful how you mess with the bride. God calls Himself Jealous.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:03 am |
    • Topher

      Dude, I'd be more than happy to discuss the evidence, but no one ever wants to hear it.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:06 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      That's pure slander, Topher. You have posted your "evidence" repeatedly over many months, and it is all just your imagination reinterpreting reality or the circular logic of "the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true." You have never provided anything that even comes close to qualifying as evidence.

      Slander. Lovely. You're a peach of a guy.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:06 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      lol??, do you realize that there are a great many Biblical mandates you are violating by behaving the way you do? If yyou are right about hell, you will get to experience it.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:09 am |
    • lol??

      Pickin' up married women in bars is pointless, psychopathic sociopaths. I suppose there is a certain amount of thrill tryin' to be like the Most High and exercising your "powers".

      February 18, 2013 at 1:11 am |
    • Topher

      What slander?

      It's just like on this very conversation, I present some evidence as to why you can believe the Bible, and I'm just called a liar and that I don't know anything. No real conversation ever ensues. It's just excuse making.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:16 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      "you just want to dismiss it without looking into it."

      Pure slander. Total false and negative misrepresentation of what I am doing, intended to damage my character.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:23 am |
    • Science

      Lead to gold ? Topher

      What or who made gold Topher?

      February 18, 2013 at 1:23 am |
    • lol??

      You can see alchemy in action anytime you feel like it.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:26 am |
    • Topher

      Hal Plotney

      "Total false and negative misrepresentation of what I am doing, intended to damage my character."

      I have no interest in damaging your character. So you DO want to look into the evidence?

      February 18, 2013 at 1:27 am |
    • lol??

      He can do that all by his lonesome.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:29 am |
    • Hal Plotney

      By making that statement, you did in fact attempt to damage my character. Are you unable to accept responsibility for your actions?

      If your "evidence" is the same discredited stuff you have been peddling for months, then there is no point. I have seen them, and they do not even come close to being evidence. Your positions have been debunked, and yet you keep repeating them.

      So I have little interest in that game.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:35 am |
    • Topher

      Hal Plotney

      "By making that statement, you did in fact attempt to damage my character. Are you unable to accept responsibility for your actions?"

      That's fine. Continue to post your ridiculous rabbit trails in order to avoid the topic.

      "Your positions have been debunked, and yet you keep repeating them. "

      Which specific position of mine has been debunked. You atheists are usually too busy calling me names to actually present any evidence for your own worldview.

      "So I have little interest in that game."

      Fair enough. Have a good night.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:39 am |
    • Science

      Yea topher you have been debunked many times, you do not want to see it.

      February 18, 2013 at 1:46 am |
    • .

      lol??, do you ever practice what the Bible preaches? Or are you here just to utter nonsense that you feel is "clever" in some way? Either way, you need more practice. You are about as Christian as Jim Jones.

      February 18, 2013 at 2:47 am |
    • .

      "Pickin’ up married women in bars is pointless, psychopathic sociopaths."
      I suggest you stop doing this, lol??. You will get a disease. Unchaste, unclean! Repent!

      February 18, 2013 at 2:51 am |
    • sam stone

      Good evening, Topher: What sort of justification do you have for your slavery today?

      February 18, 2013 at 4:16 am |
  11. Dark Matter

    Her eyes sunken, the tip of her formal nose reflecting the hall light. She gazed unseeing at her sleeping husband.
    She steeled herself for what she must do next. Ringing ears made it impossible to hear the television but the salesman flickered like candlelight in her dead eyes. Jesus told me what I must do my love.

    February 17, 2013 at 10:34 pm |
    • clarity

      from Confessions of Lorena Bobbitt I suppose

      February 17, 2013 at 10:37 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      You have been master of the remote for all the long years we've been together, but at last it's my turn and my choice and I choose what my Lord would have me choose, and Mr. Smith Goes to Washington is on.

      February 17, 2013 at 10:40 pm |
    • M.A.D

      @clarity lol !!

      February 17, 2013 at 10:42 pm |
    • Dark Matter

      The killing done, the gore seeped down through the floor heating vent of the Vicorian home. The foul stench hissing off the heated iron below like fat dripping on hot coals. Jesus, I have done what you asked. I have spilled his blood in your name my Lord. I am ready.

      February 17, 2013 at 10:50 pm |
  12. Helen

    I hope for the day that a pope's final message is the final message of any pope.

    February 17, 2013 at 10:03 pm |
    • ..


      February 17, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
    • Meatwad

      I like the pope ya'll. He wears pretty dresses and keeps tacos in his hat for snack time.

      February 17, 2013 at 10:13 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      No! Catholics keep me laughing, I need the comedy.

      February 17, 2013 at 10:30 pm |
  13. Ungodly Discipline

    Atheists come in all shapes, sizes and colors, but one thing we have in common is common sense. The anamorphic judeo/christian god of the bible simple cannot exist. It is not an opinion, it is a fact. There is nothing that supports any other conclusion.

    February 17, 2013 at 9:40 pm |
    • Poltergeist

      Calling an opinion a fact doesn't make it so.

      February 17, 2013 at 9:51 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Then why do you keep doing that, Pole?

      February 17, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
    • Ungodly Discipline

      Poltergeist, I agree. That is why I posted a factual statement, rather than an opinion. Do you disagree with me?

      February 17, 2013 at 10:08 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      You've got to love facts. They exist, which is more than you can say for God.

      February 17, 2013 at 10:21 pm |
  14. truth be told

    All so called atheists are liars. That said their remarks can be designated to a proper garbage pile. Did a so called atheist say it ... It's a lie.

    February 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Then no one needs you here, if all you say is self-evident, you loser, cap'n azzwipe.

      February 17, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Too bad your ship sank long ago, captain incapable. Do you really think you influence anyone here?

      How hard up are you?

      February 17, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
    • ..

      What's the matter, asshole, got tired of being "Red" on the other blog?

      February 17, 2013 at 8:16 pm |
    • Simon says

      Simon says: Tom Tom and ....says are gay.

      February 17, 2013 at 8:50 pm |
    • ..

      .. says that Simon is the product of scag whore and her brother.

      February 17, 2013 at 8:59 pm |
  15. SoldierOfConscience

    This pope didnt push the conservative message enough

    February 17, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Boo hoo.

      February 17, 2013 at 5:54 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      Priests, however, seem to be quite adept at "pushing things through." I guess that's why you kiss their asses, SOC puppet.

      February 17, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
    • ..

      This pope is a criminal.

      February 17, 2013 at 6:13 pm |
    • lionlylamb


      February 17, 2013 at 7:44 pm |
  16. Correctlycenter

    Jesus says in Matthew 6:7-8
    "When you pray, don't babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered only by repeating their words over and over again and again. Don't be like them, because your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask Him."

    February 17, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      Then why waste your time praying?

      February 17, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • ..

      Lol...another "Catholics are not real Christians" denier.

      February 17, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
    • clarity

      But what if they say their prayers over and over, but not again and again? Or maybe over and over but just again one time?

      February 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
  17. Reality

    His final message will hopefully be the following:

    (only for the new members of this blog)

    The Apostles' Creed 2013: (updated and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
    and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    (references used are available upon request)

    February 17, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • Correctlycenter

      If God doesn't exist, then who created the heavens and the earth and all living things on it? I believe that only an Intelligent Designer could have created everything. Things don't just come into existence out of nothingness to form stars, suns, planets, asteroids, moons, earth, sky, elements, water and us...

      February 17, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      There's the key: You said "I believe." Fine. You can believe whatever you wish. Don't pretend it's fact.

      February 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • End Religion

      @CC: you are made from the stuff of exploded stars.

      February 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • ..

      You are about as correctly center as Dahmer was correctly vegan.

      February 17, 2013 at 4:47 pm |
    • Really-O?

      @End Religion-

      "We are stardust, we are golden, we are billion year old carbon,
      And we've got to get ourselves back to the garden."
      -Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

      Brilliant. Insightful.

      February 17, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • Reality

      o Think infinity and recycling with the Big Bang expansion followed by the shrinking reversal called the Gib Gnab and recycling back to the Big Bang repeating the process on and on forever. Human life and Earth are simply a minute part of this cha-otic, sto-cha-stic, expanding, shrinking process disappearing in five billion years with the burn out of the Sun and maybe returning in another five billion years with different life forms but still subject to the va-ga-ries of its local star.

      February 17, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • VanHagar

      @End Religion...you state: "you are made from the stuff of exploded stars" At some point you will have to accept the inevitable that you can't explain what we came from simply by nature..where did the stars that exploded come from? Whatever your answer is, the question remains...where did that next thing come from? And so on and so on. The only plausible answer is that there exists something that is beyond nature...something supernatural.

      February 17, 2013 at 11:18 pm |
    • End Religion

      VanHager, that is a possibility, but to run around assuming one knows the mind of this possible thing when one can't is incredibly childish. If something took the spacetime to create the universe and all its vastness I can't see why any human would put eggs in the basket of it being something so tribalistic as the god of israel. It would be comical if it weren't so sad.

      February 18, 2013 at 3:44 am |
    • End Religion

      @VanHagar: another possibility is that universes are on a "plane of universes" or a "multi-verse" and is eternal without a prime mover. Black holes could be responsible for absorbing and/or birthing universes. Science is beginning to look at the interesting relationship between the Big Bang and black holes, since the Big Bang was an explosion of a infinitely dense packet of particles, and black holes seem to be infinitely dense phenomena which suck up ANY object in the universe and either 1) makes it disappear (Hawking), or, 2) smears the object's particles around the black hole

      We don't know the answers. But to suddenly ascribe this to an some god that wants you to keep slaves, continually praise it, not work on certain days of a week (as if a week or given day would mean something to a god), and all the other tribalistic human attributes that peoples want to foist onto the "thing" they feel is protecting them in this cold universe is just intellectually bankrupt.

      February 18, 2013 at 4:22 am |
    • VanHagar

      @End...I wan't arguing for the existence of the God of the Bible (although I could). My argument was direcred at your critic of CC's argument for intellectual design...and you haven't refuted that at all. You speak of black holes as if they could exist naturally–where does the energy come from? Again, my point holds up–every time. It has to be something beyond nature.

      February 18, 2013 at 9:32 am |
  18. Cosette

    'We ask God to give us strength to fight our weaknesses', yes indeed!

    February 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm |
  19. Info

    Here's an excellent book examining the 300 "Prophecies" of Jesus from the Hebrew Scriptures. The book was recently published on Amazon Kindle edition and is free for a limited time. This is an examination you don't want to ignore.


    February 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
  20. Ventorio Vespucci

    And everyone is going, "Who cares what this pos has to say to anyone? He already quit. Anything he now says is void."

    February 17, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
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