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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcyW7rMYR7A
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Prayer is just a time-sucker-upper.
Prayer changes things .
Your prayers to receive a brain have not worked, try switching to the Wizard of Oz, he has credentials
Just a Ghost he is
Engineering 'Ghost' Objects: Breakthrough in Scattering Illusion
Feb. 19, 2013 — A team at the NUS Department of Electrical & Computer Engineering led by Dr Qiu Cheng-Wei has come out with an optical device to "engineer" ghosts.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130219090643.htm
"Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things" is unfounded.
"Prayer changes things" is unfounded.
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
"Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"
This is inaccurate wouldn't you agree? Especially when the data shows that atheists tend to have happier and healthier marriages than conservative Christians.
atheists are liars
Separation of church and state
New science standards created by 26 states (majority) for 2013 and beyond,, .. It is called Stem standards for public schools....
No god(s) required
By the way creatoin/ID LOST DEPUNKED at the Dover trial in 2005
Peace
No god(s) required for graduation n the US
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcyW7rMYR7A
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I give up
when explaining all the logical steps in my argument (that you dont agree with) suddenlt its not black and white
then the abuse
even if I do respond, accuse that I am not responding.
Pointless.
Saraswati, thanx for trying to engage me. Tom, No thanks. go to h-e-double-hockeysticks with your abuse
so bye
Another success. It's Miller time.
Okay, so he's really leaving because he made a total fool of himself every time he posted, but all the same, it's Miller time!
I don't think you ever actually responded to me, did you?
Yeah, the little twit posted the same sh!te on the Hobbly Lobby thread. Aren't you all just devastated that this paragon of brilliance and recti tude is retreating? I know I'm just bereft. However WILL I go on?
Oh I love Grand Exits! The grandiose self-pity is just too funny!
Ah, I see this wasn't specific to this topic.
Can you pick up Topher and Chad and Live4Him and captain prayer troll on your way out? I'm sure they will all fit in your clown car.
Innit, though? SOC COC is an expert at these dramatics. Musta been a hell of an amateur actor. Bet his bullish!t played well in community theatre. Do note the "re" ending. SOC COC wouldn't have it any other way. His craft demands excellence.
SOC, when you say things such as "(really the sick g@y dude who claims to be the priest) should be held responsible.", as if there was only a single instance, it stretches the credibility factor of everything you say after that; especially when it has been pointed out to you repeatedly that pedophilia and being gay are two completely separate things.
I cannot help but question your logic, especially when the starting point of it is so illogical.
"I'm going to change my handle because I really blew it with this one."
Google Translater, I suspect you are right.
Awww, little fella, don't go away mad......
ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
Does SOC's departure change the amount of hair on the sun? John, can you weight in on this?
And does it take a triangle of days to lock in the hair on the sun?
ug, weigh...
Yes, I am curious about what role SOC may play in any triangle locking process. Is the triangle now just a straight line or is it now quadrilateral. Personally I preferred it as a hairy triangle for some reason...
Sunny's hairy triangle! By George, you've UNLOCKED IT!!! You are truly an angel of the (Jack) Lord.
@Rober Brown, listen more you think like people 2000 years back, more you will destroy yourself. Stay current my friend.
All so called atheists are liars. This simple Truth can be applied to every message posted by any self deceived atheist on these blogs. All normal morally decent people already know this fact so the only ones being fooled are the so called atheists themselves.
All so called derpy derps are liars. This simple Truth can be applied to every message posted by any self deceived mouth breathing religitard on these blogs. All normal, sane people already know this fact so the only ones being fooled are the so called faithful themselves.
HALLOWED ARE THE ORI
i spew excrement daily
I keep losing control of my bowels.
My pants are made of cheese. God bless
Limburger I think.
Based on the smell, yes, that is correct. The smell is pleasing to God. God bless
I suck donkey dick daily.
I am, in real life, a donkey.
The two of you are meant to be together then. God bless
Yes, we are. Keep your distance.
Only a fool would quote an ancient book as if it had any relevance in today’s world.
Sounds like Robert Brown.
As an atheist, I believe all ancient books contain relevance for us today, much like fossils and textiles and ancient pottery do, for they give us a clearer picture of our past and of ourselves, and as Sun Tzu wrote "If you know others and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know others but know yourself, you win one and lose one; if you do not know others and do not know yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle."
In studying our past, we learn about both ourselves and our enemies, for there is no greater enemy to man than man himself.
" there is no greater enemy to man than man himself."
... and the Vogon.
Actually, the Iliad, the Oddyssey, and the plays of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides are wonders of insight (and much better literature than the Bible).
The problem of the Bible is not its age but its claims. Heck, even as philosophy, Buddhist scripture is better and more humane. The problem with the Good Book is that there are a whole lot of better books.
Confucius said you should treat others as you want others to treat you. That was about 3,000 years ago and it still applies today.
confucious must have stolen that from the bible....which proves he was a time traveler.
"Iliad, the Oddyssey, and the plays of Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides are wonders of insight." These are old books written by bronze age men and probably rewritten many times to suit the translator's power needs with no understanding of science. They are worthless. Wait? What?
Confucius was nothing but a pre-emptive plant by Satan to deceive the world.
Nobody pretends Homer and the plays of the ancient Greek masters are literally true.
The Bible may not be totally useless, but like the Greek works, it's pure fiction, and of the ancient works, it isn't particularly useful.
To all those accusing the whole church to be p3doph1le or making bigoted jokes along those lines, see today's headline: "Georgia teacher accused of having s3x with students". Will you now start accusing all teachers of being p3doph1les? To be consistent you should.
I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that the Teacher's Union doesn't conspire to cover up the abuse and move the teacher to a new school to keep working with kids.
So when are you going to stop lumping pedophiles in with ho.mose.xuals?
Nobody has said ALL preists are pedophiles...just that some are and the RCC continues to cover it up. Are you so dense that you cannot grasp that? Tard.
If the school and school district conspire to keep the pedophiles from prosecution, then perhaps condemning the entire organization and its principal is justified.
@Soldier
I notice that you have never actually addressed the fact that the church covers up and shuffles these pedophile priests around instead of making them pay for their crimes. Why is that?
What are you stupid or something?
I don't think that Soldier has very good reasoning skills.
They do conspire. Look up the article yourself. This teacher, after SEVEN boys, was given leave with pay. this case will drag on for a while as she sits on her ass at home. Why? Union.
If the organization continues along the path of insanity – insisting that celibacy is healthy for some in certain positions, then the problem, along with hiding it, is guaranteed to continue.
@Soldier
Thank you for illustrating my point. You have no conscience.
Wait... This was a female teacher fooling around with boys and they TOLD ON HER!!!!!
IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Notice how this story came out. 7 victims by one woman. Ok...multiply thousands of priests who have raped to or more boys, (not even mentioning the girls) and a Pope who covered it all up...and what do you have, SOC? No point.
The bitch needs to pay for her crimes, in addition to anyone who helped cover this up. The same is true for the RCC.
There's a word for you, SOC: enabler. Look it up, fool.
As the others are implying, the REAL problem was not that pedophiles turn up, but that the Catholic church hid them from prosecution and moved them to where they could and did contiune to hurt children. It's the conspiracy to obstruct justice on a world-wide scale that is the problem. They applied the exact same "hide, deny, move and stonewall" strategy everywhere in the world. That isn't a local parish blowing it; it's a true conspiracy directed from the Vatican.
Had the church turned over its predators to law enforcement, they would not be under any disgrace. But they didn't. They hid them and allowed them to continue, in America, in Ireland, in Africa, in South America. Heck, if a child in Holland in the 1930s spoke up and said he had been molested, he was sent to a reformatory and . . . castrated. Check it out: it's true.
Any organization can have a perpetrator. That isn't the problem. When the response of the organization allows it to continue, further victimizes the victims, hides it, and allows more children to get molested, and does it everywhere the organization is, well, that is the real problem here.
But you have already been told that, and yet you turn around and lie again. Christians are liars.
Why oh why can't SOC see how stupid he is? Why must others constantly illustrate it to him?
@ SOC Puppet: "This teacher, after SEVEN boys, was given leave with pay. this case will drag on for a while as she sits on her ass at home. Why?"
Because of this thing called "innocent until proven guilty." The school found oout and turned it over to police. Hd the Catholic church done this, then people would not be mad at them.
HawaiiGuest : Why does this post show I have no conscience?
Yeppers the holland thing is not true. Some church officials may have covered it up. They must be investigated and held accountable. I cant believe it was the whole church.
COming back to thsi teacher, why is she not being prosecuted as a pedophile and have 's3x crime' added to her name? Instead she gets leave without pay.
SOC, has she been convicted yet, idiot? No? Then why should she have to register as a sex offender if she hasn't been convicted yet? You really ARE that dense. Shut up.
@Soldier
Because you constantly refuse to even acknowledge anything regarding the fact that the church has protocols in place to prevent legal action against priests that molest, and they constantly shuffle the priests around, yet you are perfectly willing to point to a political opponent you have with allegations without providing a link to your sources. This is why you have no conscience. You're a dishonest zealot with absolutely no integrity.
Here is the BBC story on the Holland thing you say didn't happen (I got the date wrong: it was the 50s)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17453849
Oh, it's true, SOC. The RCC did this to at least 10 Dutch boys. And the Pope WROTE some of the protocol on how they would handle the abuse...by threatening ex-communication if the victims spoke up. If you're a devout Catholic, this is a fate worse than death. All you have done is show you're a pedophile apologist. Sincerely, shut up.
Hawaii, re: shuffling arond
1. what you talk about in present tense is really the past tense. They dont do this any more.
2. It was just some parts of the church not all
Holland one is an isolated case
Keep telling yourself that.
Well, SOC, the pedophilia is not the issue, the issue is the church hiding the pedophiles. Pull your head out of your rectum, punk
You lied and said the Holland thing didn't happen. Admit it: you lied.
And just as you refused to see the truth until your nose was rubbed in it, you continue to refuce to see the truth of the obvious: that the Cathoilic Church applied EXACTLY the same despicable response everywhere in the world. There is absolutely no way that could happen if it was individual parishes – some would have turned their people in, or fired them, or whatever. But everywhere on earth, they did the same hide, stonewall, and move the perpetrator to where he could (and often did) molest again.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt, SOC. It's your way of life.
@Soldier
Then where is the order rescending the previous order to not go to authorities and to keep it within the church heirarchy on penalty of excommunication? Where are the stories of priests actually being charged and sentenced to jail time? Where are the stories of the pope actually coming out and telling his servants to actually turn these rapists in?
The fact that Ratzinger distributed a papal order when he was a Cardinal completely refutes your "It was only some churches" bullshit.
The facts in these horrible cases validate a substantial claim of bigotry against the Catholic church
By John Norton – OSV Newsweekly, 1/2/2011
Unless you’re a daily reader of USA Today, you probably missed a story that should have received a lot more attention:
“Registered seex offenders are getting jobs in schools as teachers, administrators, volunteers and contractors, despite state laws that prohibit them from contact with children, a government watchdog report says.
“And school officials in some states enable misconduct to continue by ignoring red flags during hiring or by covering up the firing of seexual offenders, according to the report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress.”
As the USA Today story notes: “An Education Department study estimates that millions of kids in kindergarten through 12th grade are victims of seexual misconduct by a school employee at some point. The GAO report also notes most seexual abuse of children goes unreported. In one study it cites, 232 child molesters admitted to molesting a total of 17,000 victims, often without ever being caught.”
The spin SOC gives is hilarious. "They don't do it anymore." Bullshit...then they will have no problem turning their files over will they? Have a date that they officially stopped? Didn't think so. Have that list handy? Didn't think so. You have no credibility, SOC/tbt/justwondering/justsayin/whatever. Shut up.
Deacon, how does that refute that the RCC covers up the RAMPANT abuse by priests? Predators are everywhere. Another pedophile apologist. Sick.
@Bill
You're just as pathetic and Soldier is.
@Bill, I've already addressed you twice regarding how the numbers of kids molested in schools don't compare against the numbers molested by priests due to the vast difference in number of exposed children and number of hours of exposure. Numerous other people have addressed the fact that it's not the molestations themselves that shock most people, but the cover-up. I don't expect you to radically change your views, but I do expect you to show some small indication of growing and learning from your discussions from others, even if only to shore up and improve upon your position. You don't do that however, which is why you get called out repeatedly for your approach to debate. Repeating the same thing over with no acknowledgement of the point of the other side is either fanaticism of deception.
Bill Deacon
You are willfully blind. Mea Maxima Culpa revealed the dcocu*ments of the Irish priests, Walsh I think, that the hierarchy of the Irish RCC wanted to kick out of the church for his proven abuse. It was the CDF in the Vatican led by Ratzinger that allowed that predator to continue his abuse over and over again. This was not at all an isolated incident and you know it. Your, other orginizations are as bad or worse than ours, excuse is supposed to somehow make the sins of the church not as bad!! What a disgusting lame effort to say that the RCC are being picked on without good reason.
I wonder if SOC Puppet is Topher, because like Topher, he runs away when he makes a fool of himself.
Bill Deacon
One of the victims that testified about the abuse he received at the hands of a priest stated that when he attempted to tell his mother what was happening to him, his devout mother slapped him and told him not to say filthy things about a priest. A priest would never do such things. An extreme example of faith causing a mother to not believe her own son. To me you have that same total faith in your church you will not accept the truth of what happened. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith have all the information in the Vatican that will probably never see the light of day.
Thinking like a RCC lawyer, only 1 of the 7 boys was under the age of 16, which is the age of consent in Georgia, unless you are a teacher, coach, etc. There shouldn't be special laws for certain relationships. The law should not get in the way of true love. The boys initiated each of the relationships and the real victim is the teacher who was raped. . .
Bill Deacon
A case of bigotry against the RCC. really. Maybe so, but could it be that it is not all about the se*x abuse scandals worldwide. How about the money laundering scheme, the failure of the Vatican bank to comply with regulations, the ties to the Mafia, the ridiculous stand on abortion, the attempt to try and stop the use of contraception, the treatment/exclusion of women in the chuerch and the ugly history of the church in general. Hard to find any other orginization that deserves as much derision as yours.
Bill Deacon, you dumb POS, I doubt you're anything but another filthy canadian. There's your sign
Simply a waste of time and text !!!
God loves you.
The way Chris Brown loves Rihanna.
The Great Pumpkin loves you.
Sasquatch loves you.
My master Yog-Sothoth demands human blood and souls for sacrifice.
You will soon feel the exquisite suffering of his malevolence.
Congrats on breaking free from religion. Uncongrats for sinking back in. I will pray for you.
Dog loves you.
I can tell he's lying because after having been a pastor myself, I find it very hard to believe he jumped straight to atheist. I and nearly everyone I have talked with who went through a similar experience often spend several years exploring other faiths and doing even more research into the bible before coming to the final conclusion that it's very unlikely anything like the God/Gods/gods people describe and worship exist. The last stop is finally accepting in your own mind the realization "Hey, I guess i'd be considered an atheist..."
Also claiming to have been a pastor and then later "found Jesus Christ" like he was lost in the wash or something just seems extremely disingenuous.
Why cant the religonuts spell atheist correctly ?
@Mass Debater
Guy who used to be a pastor, than spent several years exploring other faiths and doing even more research into the bible before coming to the final conclusion that it's very unlikely anything like the God/Gods/gods people describe and worship exist and became an athiest, and then found Jesus Christ.
God loves you.
Is that "Fixed" as in neutered?
And whats really funny is that he misspelled atheist again 🙂 Even after several people corrected him he cannot hide his ignorance.
@Fixed
non-existent beings cant love or do anything.
Mass, that's how we know it's the same guy writing it...
I'm thinking that a guy who can't spell "atheist" just plain wasn't one. He managed to spell "pastor" and "Jesus Christ" right.
Flippity-floppity religio-dude, your journey is not complete until you end with atheism. Once you get there maybe you'll be the athiest atheist alive.
Step back everyone... ex-Pastor now atheist coming through. Move along, nothing to see here.
Belief Board King, your taxes are too high! We will start our own Board. We hereby dump all your Belief Tea into the Boston Harbor. Eat it, you poncy git!
Why has the statue of the baby been stabbed in the head?
I was wondering the same thing...is he torturing an infant??
It's a diagram of correct acupuncture placement.
It's an effigy of the accusers who claim to have been abused by Priests, a few stab's to the head make the priests feel all better.
no it is a baby Devil with horns.
Then what is that one sticking out of the side of his head all about, Islam Guy?
Those are handles to make it easier to dash the infant's head against rocks.
Psalm 137:9
Doc, LOL
Its a Voodoo doll.
Prayer changes things
Education for you
Creationists are predictable too.
How Predictable Is Evolution?
Feb. 19, 2013 — Understanding how and why diversification occurs is important for understanding why there are so many species on Earth. In a new study published on 19 February in the open access journal PLOS Biology, researchers show that similar – or even identical – mutations can occur during diversification in completely separate populations of E. coli evolving in different environments over more than 1000 generations. Evolution, therefore, can be surprisingly predictable.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130219172155.htm
Peace
Hi Prayerbot.
That baby was not there when this picture was taken!!
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!~,
Go figure....something doesn't fit the plan then just change their creed to make it work. Too bad they can't with the same ease change a number of other parts of their ideology that don't align with reality.
"God only reveals himself to the humble."
(only fearful, weak-minded fools can't leave their dolls behind after childhood)
sorry, Thoth – reply was for RB just below.
I saw everything God does, and I realized that no one can really understand what happens. We may be very wise, but no matter how much we try or how much we claim to know, we cannot understand it all.
(Eccl 8:17 CEV)
I read everything men said god did, and found it comedic fiction.
Agree with Richard.... all gods are bound by a magical power that does not allow them to write
Five year old Doobs: "Sister Mary Crabapple, why does god send unbaptized babies to Limbo instead of heaven? They haven't sinned."
Sister Mary Crabapple: "They have the stain of original sin on their souls. They can't be in the presence of god."
FYOD: "But they haven't done anything wrong. Why is god punishing them?"
SMC: It's one of god's mysteries. You'll find out if you get to heaven. But questioning god is a mortal sin, and children who question god can't go to heaven."
So, yes, what you posted is one of the first lies I remember hearing about god. God's mysterious ways, his knowledge is so much greater than you can imagine, he's got everything under control and someday you'll see that it was just part of his master plan, it's the last desperate lie when you have no reasonable answer.
In a nutshell, a man wrote.....remain ignorant and fearful of my words... do not question
"all gods are bound by a magical power that does not allow them to write"
I am more impressed by their all powerful inability to show themselves.
That's pretty awesome.
Derp,
That is also a common trait with ALL gods.....wonder why that is??????
Derp,
God only reveals himself to the humble.
God only reveals himself to the humble.
Another lie – you must grovel before god or he won't have anything to do with you.
Anything to keep the sheep in line.
Bobby, you said yesterday that you knew God's thought. Doesn't sound like you're very humble to me.
I wholeheartedly believe in God!
@Robert Brown
If god only reveals himself to the humble, then why have no humble people been able to get a picture, or an audio clip? Only two possible answers come to mind 1) there are no humble people on the planet so god has never made an appearance, or 2) god doesn’t exist, and therefor has never made an appearance.
"God only reveals himself to the humble."
(only fearful, weak-minded fools can't leave their dolls behind after childhood)
..,
I didn’t say I know God’s thoughts.
Robert Brown Translator,
Matthew 18
King James Version (KJV)
1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
More of the same crap.
(various selections from Gullible's Travels, part 2)
Robert Brown
"god only reveals himself to the humble."...what a cop out.
Have you never been to a southern baptist service...no humble preachers there.
Have you never seen these televangelsits...not a single one humble
That is just a phrase you use to cop out to explain the total lask of eviedence of god.
I'm sorry, please forgive me. I do believe in God.
Bobby, you said you were sharing God's opinions. What are opinions if not thoughts?
I admit that I'm wrong. There is a Most Holy God.
Looks like someone is even more of a pathetic troll than most on here.
Forgive me and may God have mercy on me.
@Robert Brown,
"God only reveals himself to the humble."
Paul was humble?
Richard Cranium,
“Lack of evidence”
Evidence is provided on an individual basis. I can share with you my experience with God. I can tell you the good news. Is that enough to compel you to give God a try?
@ME II
Don't forget, Robert believes in "limited free will", and believes that might makes right. So it doesn't matter what he says, or what Paul supposedly was, in Roberts world, he's always right.
If you are gong to try to steal my nom de plume, you shouldn't use your word press account....my name does not show in blue, theif.
Let me state this clearly. I do not believe in gods, fairy tales, unicorns, leprechauns or any other mythical fictional characters.
And I only admit I am wrong when I actually am. In this instance not.
ME II,
Sure he was, after God struck him blind. Are you going to wait for, or depend on, the same experience?
@Robert Brown,
"Are you going to wait for, or depend on, the same experience?"
I wait for God's will. Why do you doubt that?
"Evidence is provided on an individual basis."
You can justify ANYTHING with that sort of reasoning.
Hawaiiguest,
I am as fallible, if not more, than the next human, but I know one who is never wrong. Peace.
Little Blue Boy WordPress screen name stealer,
Are you a Christian? If so, you are breaking a few of your Big 10 - lying, stealing and coveting the reputation of another. Enjoy your "lake of fire", sucker!
TANK!!!!,
God says,
“Come now, and let us reason together….”,
Isaiah 1:18
ME II,
Gods will
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Evidence is provided on an individual basis? That's incredibly unjust.
Let's face it: God cannot legitimately convict and sentence when he himself willfully concealed crucial evidence that would have affected the outcome. Your god behaves Stalin, complete with kangaroo courts and gulag.
Robert
I know you could provide me with your experience with your own delusion. Though you may BELIEVE it is god, the lack of any subsatantial evidence leads back to personal delusion.
They tried raising me in a presbyterian household. At six, they told my paerents I was not to come back to sunday school because they got tired of trying to answer my questions regarding the inconsistancies and contrad!ctions in the bible.
If sunday school teachers get tripped up by the questions of a six year old, it is most likely because the bible is false, and the fact that it was created by men, not any god, shows why it is so fallable.
I have been on a spiritual quest since then, studying many religions, which all have the same basic flaw...they were all created by men, and are false. Stories, myths and legends passed down through generaations. Nothing more.
@Mr Brown,
"we cannot understand it all" ........isn't that true for everything, including operating TV remote, not ONLY God?
And once again, all Robert can ever give is confirmatory bias bullshit.
Well I guess we should know better than to ask Robert Brown for reasonable evidence of his god. Circular reference to tall tales seems to be his only recourse.
Really now,
God’s justice
John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Richard Cranium,
You are in a very dangerous position, by your statement it appears that you have decided there is no such thing as God.
When Jesus was on earth he walked around healing people and yet they still wanted him to show them a sign. He basically said the only sign your going to get is the same one Jonah gave. Jonah was in the great fish 3 days, alive or dead. There have been two people in history who survived being swallowed by a fish for two days. One of them had a yellow stain to his skin, maybe from the acid in the stomach of the fish. When Jonah preached in Ninevah the people believed him not only for his words, but just imagine what he looked like.
If your mind is made up, literally, only God can reach you now. I hope he gives you what you need. Peace.
You're so incredibly pathetic Robert. You have no answer to any point here, and the saddest part is that you think by spewing out bible verses somehow answers anything.
Robert
I am not in any danger. There are no gods. The farther I look for one, the more I get convinced that men needs gods, so they create them.
If there is some power (not greater, not higher, but different) that is out there, it certainly is not the god of the bible, and is likely not sentient at all, unless the universe itself is sentient.
My sister pondered once that we are the universe trying to figure itself out. A much more elegant explaination or thought than anything in the bible.
We do not know what the energy is that const!tutes life, but we can see all around us, that life wants to exist and goes to great lengths to become life. Add this to the fact that the four elements needed for life (at least here) are the four most common elements of the universe, it is extremely likely that life is on other planets, where they would never have heard of your god.
It seems to me, after studying (and continuing to study) various sciences and philosophies, that the energy that const!tutes life, is a form of energy we have yet to dfine, but should conform to out known laws of energy.
It seems to me that we are nothing but focal points for that energy, and that energy will disipate into the universe upon death, only to be recycled, like all other energy.
I have wondered why we are not studying more closely how memories and instincts are stored chemically, even down to the most subtle nuances of memory. There are clearly some questions that we haven't yet answered, more still questions we do not even know we need to ask.
That to me is a far more interesting topic.
God the bully. what a joke.
"god only reveals himself to the humble"
and the delusional
he's eager to start his retirement. the vatican/catholic church has an amazing retirement package. as a former pope, benedict gets his own villa complete with a harem of young boys.
normally harem is the female, stable is male.
This is bigotry of the worst kind. There is no evidence that Benedict had a p3doph1le past. Only refer to those who have proven cases against them as p3doph1les, not the whole church. Not even those just accused of, but not yet proven guilty.
SoldierOfConscience is right, we must be fair and reasonable here...Benedict simply conspires with child rapists.
"child rapists" sounds like I'm talking about children who commit rape. I should have said "those who rape children".
@Soldierof Conscience
The worst kind of bigotry is when you conflate ho/mose/xuality with pedophilia, as you've done time and time again.
SOC, although HE may personally not raped any child, he willingly took part of the cover-up of thousands of priests who did. Accessory after the fact. Get a fucking clue, wouldja?
We dont know if he was a pedo ,but we do know he was a Nazi.
Both are really bad.
SOC, if a group of people are committing a crime and one of them murders then they're all charged with murder (if I understand it correctly). In the same manner, if the Pope was helping cover up a crime then he should be charged as if he committed the actual crime.
You've heard of how BMW in naz – i germany used concentration camp labor? But they stopped after WWII. For that reason they were not prosecuted as war criminals. SImilarly, now that the church is not hiding any more, only the so called priest (really the sick g@y dude who claims to be the priest) should be held responsible.
"(really the sick g@y dude who claims to be the priest) should be held responsible."
This is why we know you're truth be told. This is why you are not to be taken seriously...because you are a pedophile apologist who doesn't know exactly what a pedophile is. And you are CONSTANTLY overlooked the fact that pedophile priests have raped girls, too. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
I think that's because we are more intelligent than the wholly babble nutjobs!
CNN purposely mispost my reply. Lol!
I wouldn't say more intelligent, but probably less neurotic.
edieot
Anyone else notice our farts smell better than religious people's? What's up with that?
That's the smell of our self-satisfied garbage.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110818190602.htm
Oh, my farts smell so good, too. Mmmmm.
I know religious people are wrong. Just smell their farts, geez. Mine smell great.
I dunno, depending on what I eat mine can be pretty bad.
Maybe it's a diet thing? They aren't supposed to eat meat on Firday, and never eat anything from the sea that doesn't have scales. Shrimp platters are an abomination in the eyes of god!
Holy moly
Great facts in the farts aye
peace
I must apologize. I really am Catholic and believe in God and pray for His forgiveness.
Those arent farts, they are actually pheremones Athiest use to subconsciously indentify eachother in the same room without speaking.
Poltergeist, you oughts know, with you nose up people's asses all the time.
I suppose I should be honoured. This is the first time I've noticed my moniker being hi-jacked.
I'm just trying to hear you speak better. :0
I corrected the above story:
"Benedict, 85, shocked the world last week when he announced his intention to stand down effective February 28, to avoid charges of criminal pedophilia and protecting pedophile priests as documented in Mea Maxima Culpa."
The Catholic Church is dying of its own cancer.
As Pope he had more legal immunity than he does now.
Thank God we are not like them. I mean... not "God", but thank nothing we are not like them. Regardless, we are better.
And I thought it was to avoid the war crimes he committed as a nazi.
wrong correction hot air. Ad hominem accusation. He resigned because his advanced age didnt permithim to do his job. He didnt have to, could have lived in luxury in Rome. One should admire him for that, not criticize him.