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Priest abuse victims' group blacklists 12 cardinals for pope
Archbishops (purple hats) and cardinals (red hats) sit in St Peter's Square on February 27 in Vatican City.
March 6th, 2013
11:56 AM ET

Priest abuse victims' group blacklists 12 cardinals for pope

By Richard Allen Greene, Laura Smith-Spark and Hada Messia, CNN

Rome (CNN) - A group representing survivors of sexual abuse by priests named a "Dirty Dozen" list of cardinals it said would be the worst candidates for pope based on their handling of child sex abuse claims.

Their presence on the list is based "on their actions and/or public comment about child sex abuse and cover up in the church," the group said.

The list includes Roman Catholic cardinals from several countries.

SNAP, the Survivors' Network of those Abused by Priests, said as it released the list Wednesday that its accusations were based on media reports, legal filings and victims' statements.

The cardinals named on the list have not yet responded to the move by SNAP.

But when asked about it by CNN, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, a spokesman for the Vatican, said: "We believe it is not up to SNAP to decide who comes to conclave and who is chosen ... cardinals can decide themselves without asking SNAP for advice."

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  1. Philip

    11 Catholic archdiocese have filed for bankruptcy protection due to not being able to afford paying cash settlements to families of underaged males openly gay priests have stalked and and found to be rayping.
    Each archdiocese is individually incorporated, and so there are no legal means by which victimized families can sue the Vatican or leader of the pedophiles, the pope.
    ALL organized religions are currently being led by men such as the pope, who call themselves rather than the police when one of them is finally caught having se xual intercourse with underaged males. Even their obese wives (or in the case of openly gay priests, manfriends), act like Jerry Sandusky's wife...as if they didn't know.
    The outcries of rayped boys have reached the ears of the one true God. Each and every one of you boy humpers and your accomplices will recieve due recompense for what you have done and are doing, and long before the last day will you yourselves be destroyed just as you have destroyed.

    March 9, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
    • Akira

      Philip = Douglas = Philip Douglas, Colorado Springs.

      March 9, 2013 at 10:03 pm |
    • midwest rail

      And no matter which moniker he chooses to employ on a given day, it is still the usual tripe.

      March 9, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • Akira

      You got that right, midwest rail. At least his favorite "gay coitus" wasn't used and abused this time. That one is getting stale.

      March 9, 2013 at 10:41 pm |
  2. Douglas

    "All authority stands placed in it's relative position by God" and "There is no authority except by God" is made clear in God's word.
    Just as God loosed the mighty pagan Roman Empire on Jerusalem which along with the Jewish Temple was completely destroyed in the year 70 A.D., so will God loose today's powerful governments on organized religions led by men rayping our boys. God's will WILL be done on earth just as we pray for in our Lord's prayer.
    You religious men who hump boys and your cohort wives and churchgoers...your days have been numbered with the number of a prison cell. (or, you may well be executed as well-known suspects as is becoming popular these days)

    March 9, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
    • .

      *24 Department of Defense officials who learned of the FBIs congressionally mandated investigation tracking the money trail as they do for banl robberies and the woman who blew the whistle remain under federal gaga orders in spite of two US senators writing letters requesting those gags be lifted, rather.
      Time for me to clear my mind and prepare myself for another restful night featuring REM sleep denied to those who break God’s laws regarding mind-altering drug use of any kind.

      March 9, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
  3. Douglas

    Colorado Springs police officer Joshua Carrier was sentenced to 70 years in prison for fondling young males at Horace Mann JHS. Soon, religious men who idolize the bungholes of young males will be sent to prison rather than being tranferred to another archdiocese or kept secret by cohorts like their wives who will also be going to prison as accessories.
    ALL religions shelter men who raype boys preferring to call themselves together RATHER than calling the police when a boy humper is found among them. ALL humpers of young males are going to be in prison where they belong...among convicted sodomites.

    March 9, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • End Religion

      doug is logning for incarceration again...

      March 9, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • .

      Who I am is of no concern and my name, Philip, draws much attention from those who troll these waters and lurk for me and focus on me rather than these truths I have learned over decades of earnest and tear-filled pleas for God to show me what this world is all about.
      When I was a little boy of 9 yrs. severely being abused in every way you can imagine and heard rumors of a loving heavenly Father who could fix that which has been broken, I mustered the courage to ask my wicked dad if they were true. As I would not stop pestering him on this and as my mother was backwards to the point of experiencing REM in the middle of daytime sleeping and so was of no use whatsoever on these matters, my dad finally got very upset and his face turned red and he went into his den and came out with an old drafting set and a very old King James bible instead of one of his many favorite beating belts, he handed to me that bible and that set and said to me “Here. YOU figure it out.” and so I did [begin to fugure it out].That was in 1968.

      March 9, 2013 at 7:29 pm |
  4. Douglas

    Organized religion will be abolished, worldwide. These hordes are responsible for the lions share of bloodshed and boy raype, etc., and governments WILL abolish them.

    March 9, 2013 at 11:49 am |
    • .

      ALL organized religions are being led by the men Jesus Christ said religions would be led by after his apostles all died out. While none of Jesus Christ’s 1st century Christian leaders ever involved themselves in politics to the point that they ran for public office, after they all died out those men Jesus said would sneak into the church did sneak in and did get involved with political leaders and in just a couple of centuries the Holy Roman Empire was the old Roman Empire whitewashed to appear to be something of God’s and both the church and the State being led by the very same man, Pontifex Maximus who had his own wife killed for proving that his trinity doctrine was horsepucky.
      Since this apostate Christian ruled the known world and since the church of Jesus Christ’s was corrupted by politics, that one church has become over 1000 different religious organizations, ALL being led by wolves wearing sheeps clothing EXACTLY how God’s word described in advance of these thngs taking place.

      March 9, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
  5. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things,

    March 9, 2013 at 6:06 am |
    • Science

      This works . better for children !

      Evolution and the Ice Age

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130226135241.htm

      March 9, 2013 at 6:17 am |
    • Quest ion

      Can you go in more detail as to why atheism is not healthy?

      I agree and understand what you're saying but would like to see that explained in more detail. Like for example; how many people have died and suffered under atheistic regimes, oppressors and tyrants, like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot? Just asking for the benefit of all.

      March 9, 2013 at 10:09 am |
    • rick

      it wasn't the atheism that was behind stalin, pol pot, etc. it was totalitarianism.

      March 9, 2013 at 11:06 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!`~

      March 9, 2013 at 11:08 am |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie.

      March 9, 2013 at 11:11 am |
  6. evangelin dangelo

    If you think Theodore`s story is neat..., last pay-cheque my son in law basically also made $4625 sitting there a fourty hour month at home and their best friend's ex-wife`s neighbour did this for seven months and errned over $4625 parttime from there laptop. follow the advice on this web-site........ BIT40. ℂOℳ

    March 9, 2013 at 3:49 am |
  7. Ques tion

    I love pepperoni pizza

    March 8, 2013 at 9:50 pm |
    • Quest ion

      Why are you impersonating me? Are you the devil's child, or just a child of the devil?

      March 9, 2013 at 10:04 am |
  8. Quest ion

    I can, therefore I will question everything there is to question. There is a whole lot of stuff that must be questioned because they are questionable. Questioning the questionable is the duty of every Christian.

    Who are the twelve?
    Will they be charge or will they be protected as has been the practice for centuries?
    Will they be turn over to the authorities for trial?
    Or will they be sent to some monastery as the means to hide them?

    March 8, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • .

      Unable to use Google?? Look it up, lazy ass.

      March 8, 2013 at 6:23 pm |
    • Quest ion

      So dot,... you don't know because you're ignorant, lazy or what? Are you in a trailer park, in a back alley, in a inner city slum or in prison?

      March 8, 2013 at 9:33 pm |
    • Quest ion

      Dot (.) are you a Cardinal bird or an RCC Cardinal? Are you in the list of the 12? Are you an Idolater? Just asking!

      March 8, 2013 at 9:35 pm |
    • little mister©

      Back off. Dot's my wife, asshole. Fuck with her, you fuck with me.

      March 8, 2013 at 9:45 pm |
    • .

      Here, you lazy ass.
      http://www.ksat.com/news/Abuse-victims-group-blacklists-12-cardinals/-/478452/19198364/-/bk8c9i/-/index.html

      March 8, 2013 at 10:21 pm |
    • Quest ion

      So... then little miser; are you also an idolater? Why don't you keep your wife away from the Computer? Doesn't she have anything better to do in the trailer?

      March 9, 2013 at 10:02 am |
    • End Religion

      It's just Chad. He's a broken man. One of his favorite tricks was to continually ask people to define terms until he conversation couldn't be sustained, or until he could sidetrack people. Basic stuff. But he's devolved now into occasionally donning some random moniker like Marie or Question and just asking questions over and over with the same goals.

      March 9, 2013 at 10:16 am |
    • .

      ER, he sure is a lazy ass.

      And no, Quest ion, I'm not a fan of Billy.
      Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

      March 9, 2013 at 11:23 am |
    • End Religion

      The same "idolator" hang ups as "ex catholic" and "salero21" and "douglas"

      March 9, 2013 at 11:25 am |
    • Quest ion

      Are dotty dot (.), little miser and End Religion one and the same person? A dot is a dot!
      How is life in a trailer park?

      March 10, 2013 at 8:39 pm |
  9. .

    Look for a world-wide backlash is any of these 12 are chosen as Pope.

    March 8, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
  10. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 8, 2013 at 7:38 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      March 8, 2013 at 10:58 am |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie.

      March 8, 2013 at 11:13 am |
  11. His panic

    They are in a total state of Panic after their little Infallible man failed again and again.

    March 7, 2013 at 10:46 pm |
    • End Religion

      Catholics?

      March 8, 2013 at 7:41 am |
    • Quest ion

      Who are they and why are they in such a state of Panic? Why are they panicking? Who are the 12?

      March 8, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
  12. mjschriner

    Spiritual guidance from pedophiles dressed in robes, maybe not the best idea!

    March 7, 2013 at 9:41 pm |
  13. Charles Gannon

    "SNAP" really ? That's not to gay sounding is it ?

    March 7, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
  14. Bleh64

    How about a wiji board to pick the next pope? lol

    March 7, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
  15. ron barnes

    Why is no one listing the names of these enablers/ perpetrators? Their names and affiliations shoud be in the light not just alledged that there are 12 names!!

    March 7, 2013 at 12:35 pm |
  16. fimeilleur

    The RCC has already stated that the Genesis account of creation (ie Adam & Eve) probably didn't happen in favour of Evolution. Therefore, the original sin could not have happened. If we were not born with Original Sin, Jesus' sacrifice on the cross was not necessary...

    I can't beLIEve people still think the Buy-bull is true...

    March 6, 2013 at 10:18 pm |
    • End Religion

      So the talking snake and all that, Jesus, Moses, god of israel, all that, is made up? Go figure!

      March 7, 2013 at 3:58 am |
  17. Alias

    At least it is only 12.
    Don't get wrong, that is clearly 12 too many. My point is maybe most of these old men are uninvolved with the scandal. Well, not directly involved at least.

    March 6, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
  18. Alias

    I think the whole process is flawed.
    If they really believe god is choosing the next pope, a quick lottery would work just fine.

    March 6, 2013 at 12:30 pm |
    • Mohammad A. Dead Subject

      nope. lotto is gambling, against religious practice; I support musical chair, it would be fun to see old folks, dressed in colorful robs and scull caps, exhausted, falling on each others, but still keep going round and round. I say let them sweat for the top position.

      March 6, 2013 at 12:54 pm |
    • Alias

      How about they vote for the top 4, and narrow it down to 1 with russian roulette?
      At least you could believe the one who got it really wanted it, and had faith.

      March 6, 2013 at 1:04 pm |
    • Akira

      Gambling is not against Catholic's practices; they hold raffles, Las Vegas Night fundraisers, bingo...etc.

      March 6, 2013 at 1:14 pm |
    • Mohammad A. Dead Subject

      Akira, if Gambling is not sin then Catholic ism is just a religion of convenience
      Alias, I still think it would be fun to see old guys pushing other guy off the chairs or accidently sitting on someones laps, umm something like a scene from movie called "it's mad mad mad mad world"

      March 6, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
    • Akira

      I said nothing about sin whatsoever, MAD.

      March 6, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
    • Saraswati

      If you really believe god is picking the pope AND all powerful, opening up the heavens and pointing would do just fine.

      March 6, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
  19. Reality

    The decomposing underbelly of the RCC and all the other religions has been exposed. There is no "pope-cure" as the white sheet has been unfolded over the stupidity of it all.

    March 6, 2013 at 12:25 pm |
  20. ME II

    Excellent option.

    It won't prevent anything directly, but any of the dozen listed would have to deal with a large PR mess if elected, larger than the one that already exists, that is.

    March 6, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
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