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Cardinal Dolan charms worshippers at Rome Mass
Cardinal Timothy Dolan waves to supporters after celebrating Mass at this titular church in Rome.
March 10th, 2013
11:51 AM ET

Cardinal Dolan charms worshippers at Rome Mass

By Chris Cuomo and Eric Marrapodi, CNN
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Rome (CNN) - Crowds lined the walls and spilled out the front door of the Church of Our Lady of Guadalupe on Monte Mario on Sunday to catch a glimpse of the gregarious American Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York, who smiled broadly as he came into the church, stopping to wave to photographers and kiss a baby whose parents were holding him up.

Dolan has made the short lists of some Vatican watchers as a likely choice to be elected as the next pope by the College of Cardinals, a designation called "papabili" in Italian.

A local officiant began the service by saying it was great to have Dolan at the church close to Easter.

"All these people are showing the power of the church," he said.

Dolan thanked the officiant in Italian.

"Thank you for the kind words. This is a big task. Truly a blessing to be with you. Now let's get to why we're here - to pray."

He led the congregants of his titular church in a prayer of contrition. A titular church is the house of worship in Rome assigned to a cardinal when he gets his red hat. It's by virtue of technically being a priest of Rome that a cardinal gets to vote for the Bishop of Rome - the pope.

The Mass proceeded in Italian.

In his homily, Dolan said he was "full of joy to be here at my titular church" and that he always feels "at home here."

"After St. Patrick's Church - here's a secret - this is my favorite," Dolan said, drawing applause from worshippers. "Don't tell the people of New York, OK?"

He spoke briefly about the reason the world's cardinals have descended on Rome, the conclave, which he called a "system of prayer - and it's also a joy for the cardinals to pick a pope."

"Thank you for being here," he said. "I'm not going to say too much. Just thanks for being here with me. "

After the service, reporters were hustled into an alley, then led to a courtyard in the rectory next to the church.

Dolan fielded a bevy of questions from reporters on the cardinals' thinking heading into the conclave and speculation he may be the one to emerge as the next supreme pontiff for the Catholic Church.  He laughed off many of the questions and said the cardinals were ready for their time of prayer and discernment.

Dolan said not only was he ready for the conclave to begin but he also  added, "I'm ready to go home - I’ve run out of socks."

When asked what type of socks he needed, he said he needed green socks for St. Patrick's Day, because he already had plenty of red in his cardinal wardrobe.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bishops • Catholic Church • Italy • Mass • Pope • Vatican

soundoff (344 Responses)
  1. Correctlycenter

    Evolution= monkey business...

    March 10, 2013 at 8:00 pm |
    • Science

      But aren't you the monkey?

      March 10, 2013 at 8:03 pm |
    • bobk52

      So your uncle was a monkey.

      March 10, 2013 at 8:04 pm |
    • Science

      No ape is his Cuz

      March 10, 2013 at 8:06 pm |
    • Salero21

      That's what I've been saying all along!

      March 10, 2013 at 8:24 pm |
    • .

      CorrectlyCenter=incorrect assumptions.

      March 10, 2013 at 9:33 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      hindus gods business, head hindu Jew, stupid secular, god of hindus ignorant called hanumann, secular, every hindu ignorant takes cue from.

      March 10, 2013 at 10:57 pm |
  2. Johnny

    You should check out this book called 300 Times 0 on Amazon. It's .99 cents and it gives clear information as to why Jesus is a hoax from the original scriptures. This book is a good read, highly reccomended.

    http://www.amazon .com/300-Times-examination-prophecies-ebook/dp/B00BDFMLAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362958075&sr=8-1&keywords=300+prophecies+of+jesus

    March 10, 2013 at 7:44 pm |
  3. Correctlycenter

    Atheism/humanism/totalitarianism/communism= godlessness, mass murder, barbarism, dictatorships, evil
    Hitler: was the ultimate proof that pure evil exists and that demons possess folks. Sorry, he may have thought he was Christian, his actions dictated otherwise. Sorcery was more his speed I believe. All these traits listed above are not "Christlike" qualities true Christians strive to pursue...

    March 10, 2013 at 7:36 pm |
    • End Religion

      Refuted on this very page. Even monkeys learn. Scroll down and learn, monkey.

      March 10, 2013 at 7:45 pm |
    • John

      A truly paranoid, delusional and scary worldview. If I don't share your beliefs in legends and myths, I am an evil mass murderer. Anyone who shares my beliefs and does evil, reflects on me. Everyone who shares your beliefs and does evil, they weren't true Christians. You can't fathom that many people have deeply spiritual but atheistic worldviews (many of which probably have more in common with Jesus than yours do). You do not understand love and forgiveness. You are hate dressed as something else.

      March 10, 2013 at 8:03 pm |
    • There is plenty of evidence that Hitler was a christian

      But even without that, please explain his army (which was 99% pure christian) committing all of the atrocities? It was Christian guards that slaughtered over 6m jews

      March 10, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
  4. Correctlycenter

    Jesus warns against the Religious Leaders (still applies today)
    Luke 20:46
    " Beware of these teachers of religious law! For they love to parade in flowing robes and to have evryone bow to them as they walk in the marketplaces, and how they love the seats of honor in the synagogues and at banquets."

    March 10, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
    • Science

      CC see ER hospital maybe also

      See post below under ER can you read 338,000 years old.... really can you read?

      March 10, 2013 at 7:12 pm |
    • Your god is just a myth

      Why are you quoting scripture? I thought this was a comment forum.

      March 10, 2013 at 10:15 pm |
  5. Saraswati

    I'll stick my neck out and say there's no way they are going to pick a pope from an unpopular country with a military dominance. They wouldn't pick a pope from China, either, for similar reasons. Canada's possible, or other countries in the Americas, but a pope from the US would be an enormous risk.

    March 10, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      "Is the Pope Catholic?" is often asked. Perhaps, at least once in a while, he shouldn't be.

      March 10, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
    • Science

      H\ey Sara .........chad maybe the RCC needs to fess up about the fairy

      Curtains Down for the Black Hole Firewall Paradox: Making Gravity Safe for Einstein Again

      Gravity WINS splat goes the fairy in the sky. (facts too)

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130306084151.htm

      March 11, 2013 at 8:41 am |
    • Saraswati

      I don't find the term "sky fairy" useful in talking to Chritians. It's not very close to what they view as their god and so just makes it sound like you don't understand their belief system.

      March 11, 2013 at 8:43 am |
    • Science

      BS I

      March 11, 2013 at 9:03 am |
    • Science

      What else is it then? the sky daddy works too.

      March 11, 2013 at 9:07 am |
    • Saraswati

      Most Christians I know don't think of their god as existing in a place like the sky but in something more like "all over" or another dimension. Using the reference to "sky" likens the religion to earlier religions (or versions of Christianity) that did actually believe in heavens or hells that were "above" or "below" or on mount olympus or whatever. But with the exception of Mormonism I don't think any major Christian sects think of gods location spatially these days.

      March 11, 2013 at 9:10 am |
    • Saraswati

      But yeah, if I had to pick, "sky daddy" sounds closer. Or "invisible power daddy"...but now it's just getting unnecessarily weird.

      March 11, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Science

      Thanks

      Fairy in the sky works well.

      Peace

      March 11, 2013 at 9:16 am |
    • Saraswati

      OK, but it depends what you mean by "works". Using the term "sky fairy" shows as much misunderstanding of Christianity as when the fundamentalists says atheists believe "monkeys suddenly turned into humans". Imagine how silly you think those folks are and that's what most Christians think when you say "sky fairy".

      March 11, 2013 at 9:22 am |
    • Science

      That is how silly it is plain and simple!

      truht hurts maybe.

      Peace

      Heard a nun explain what hell looked like when debating her while back big pipe with flames shooting out and if did not make it to heaven you would hang in the middle forever

      It is a fairy!

      March 11, 2013 at 9:35 am |
    • Science

      oops truth

      March 11, 2013 at 9:36 am |
    • Saraswati

      Science, doesn't bother me as I don't believe in either one and don't care – just don't think you're helping your own argument.

      March 11, 2013 at 9:40 am |
    • Science

      That is good of you sara

      Tis mutiple choice.

      Peace

      March 11, 2013 at 9:51 am |
  6. Correctlycenter

    Servants of the LORD or are they being served?

    March 10, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
  7. EX catholic

    He charms worshippers of Idols (IDOLATERS). They're Feeble minded and VERY EASY TO CHARM by their Idolatrous leaders.

    March 10, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • End Religion

      ex-cat you are an idolater and will be going to hell. How does this make you feel?

      March 10, 2013 at 6:13 pm |
    • I wonder

      EX,

      Are you a Muslim?

      Typically, though not entirely, Islamic art has focused on the depiction of patterns and Arabic calligraphy, rather than on figures, because it is feared by many Muslims that the depiction of the human form is idolatry and thereby a sin against God, forbidden in the Qur'an. Human representation for the purpose of worship is considered idolatry and is duly forbidden in Islamic law, known as Sharia law.

      March 10, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
    • EX catholic

      A simple question to simple feeble minded atheists and muslims. Which was FIRST the Bible or the Koran?

      March 10, 2013 at 8:29 pm |
    • 2 questions for EX

      EX catholic "A simple question to simple feeble minded atheists and muslims. Which was FIRST the Bible or the Koran?"
      Which was first the Torah, Buddhism, Hinduism and Confucianism or the bible?
      How many years after jesus's death was it until the bible (not just some of its books) was written?
      (Hint 300)

      March 10, 2013 at 8:45 pm |
    • End Religion

      ex-cat do you prefer to be referred to as 'stupid' or 'dumb'?

      March 10, 2013 at 8:53 pm |
    • EX catholic

      End Religion; which one are you or are you both?

      March 11, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • EX catholic

      So simple feeble minded atheists and muslim can't answer ONE Simple question! 🙂 Which was First the Bible or the Koran?

      March 11, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
    • OTOH

      EX catholic,

      So The Bible came before the Quran - so what? The Bible was by no stretch the first religious writing or supernatural fantasy story in history.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
    • EX catholic

      IDOLATRY of course preceded writing, therefore preceded any books. Men were worshipping the Sun, the Moon, Idols way before they began to write. The Bible however was written and put together way BEFORE the Koran. This is to answer the question posted, if Im a muslim. The Bible is way Above the Koran. As Above the Heavens are above the Earth.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Ex catholic

      The bible.... now please go on with how this in anyway legitimizes the bible?

      Here's my question for you, wouldn't the quran or say, the book of mormon been seen as an improvement?

      March 11, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • clarity

      Yeah – that whole thing about timing is untrustworthy. What is telling is that to respond to the charges of the gospels looking like copies of older writings, all several early Xtian apologists could come up with was the notion of 'diabolical mimicry'; that is they claimed that the devil planted the fake earlier pagan stories to occur first before the "real" (gospel) stories. wink wink.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
    • EX catholic

      Now, if Budda according to historians and reserchers lived ca. the 5th century BCE his writings could not be before the Bible. Because the Bible writings began ca. 16 centuries BCE.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:50 pm |
    • OTOH

      EX catholic,

      Buddha's writings/teaching came way before the NT, though, and that's when oodles of stuff changed for believers. The philosophies attributed to Jesus were not new at all.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • OTOH

      EX catholic,

      And just where was "Jesus" from around age 12 to age 30? Many speculate that he traveled and learned Eastern philosophy and also some Egyptian magic tricks.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • EX catholic

      Confused Confucius ca. (551-479 BCE). ← 😀 Therefore his writings cannot be Before the Bible.

      The Torah of course could mean the Law, the First 5 books the Old Testament or the entire ET. So of course the OT WAS before the NT. BOTH of them comprise todays Bible.

      So Moses and most of the Prophets of Israel, beat Buddha and Confused Confucius to the Dust with the OT.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • EX catholic

      Now, we have SIMPLETONS and FEEBLE minded atheists, buddhists, muslims et.al. ALL of them IDOLATERS huffing puffing to make the writings of their Dead leaders appearing before the OT and Above the Bible.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • EX catholic

      OTOH,

      In your own words; So What if some of those writing came before the NT? Jesus the Christ the ONE and ONLY SON OF GOD is from BEFORE the Creation of the Heavens and the Earth.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • OTOH

      EX catholic,

      I also said:
      "The Bible was by no stretch the first religious writing or supernatural fantasy story in history."

      You are beginning to sputter and shout, dear. We can all see how flustered you are.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
  8. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    What a hinduism, lie, he has no palm palms, but fat belly, hard to jump up and down, may be trying had to train for other profession, if Catholic church is shut down for good by courts for hinduism abuse of boys by hindu crook priests.

    March 10, 2013 at 5:52 pm |
    • Austin

      Was Abraham involved in creation? Who is us, In let us mak man in our image?

      March 10, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      No, he was not, none of the messengers of truth absolute Allah were, including son of blessed Mary, they all were created being like any one else, but special spirit.

      March 10, 2013 at 6:55 pm |
    • Austin

      Okay then was Mohammad involved in creation? Who are you & me?

      March 10, 2013 at 10:28 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Austin, the "us" refers to the Trinity.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
  9. Eagle Eye

    You're missing a button on your cassock, Cardinal Timmy.

    March 10, 2013 at 5:48 pm |
  10. Bootyfunk

    protip: never leave your child alone with a man that dresses like he lives in the Dark Ages.

    March 10, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      but hinduism boy abuse is of very hindu dark ages, still in progress by catholic church.

      March 10, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • Your god is just a myth

      What would you think if you saw an older man wearing a dress and a pointed hat in a child day care facility? Grab your child and run.

      March 10, 2013 at 10:46 pm |
  11. yosemite sam

    The two worst possible popes with the most regressive, politically motivated, corrupt ideas: Dolan and Turkson.

    And thus, I deduce that because they are the worst candidates, one of these two will become the next pope.

    March 10, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
  12. yosemite sam

    Dolan is a goofy man, and hardly deserves a position of (albeit arbitrary) authority.

    What a fool, overseeing Milwaukee as thousands of kids are abused.

    March 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • Science

      yosemite sam take dash out of se-x in url

      Roman Catholic Church Se-x Abuse Cases

      http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/r/roman_catholic_church_se-x_abuse_cases/index.html

      March 10, 2013 at 5:23 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      He is the best brewery master in Melwalki brewery company after hindu fabricated brewery master Jesus, he is real, Jesus is not. What else do you want hindu, ignorant.

      March 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
  13. Owen

    Clearly the boy right behind him in the photo has charmed him. We know what's next.

    March 10, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • End Religion

      Cue the p0rn music...

      March 10, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Akira

      Boom chicka bow...but he's not holding a pizza...

      March 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
  14. Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease. Realistically, many abortions could be avoided if a morning-after pill were not viewed as such an evil option. Many of these same people bring children into the world at a high pace, and then would prefer that the rest of society take over and educate their children in their particular brand of religion when they don't plan well.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

    =================================================
    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

    March 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
  15. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm |
    • yosemite sam

      Yes prayer makes things worse.

      More is accomplished on your feet than on your knees.

      March 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
  16. MN-SNAP

    Over 20,000 have viewed
    this list of 174 accused clerics
    - http://mnsnap.wordpress.com/villainous-mn-clerics/

    March 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
  17. End Religion

    I hear he charms wrinkly snakes as well, loverboy.

    March 10, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
    • Science

      Hey ER to simple for them to figure it out.

      Hey Bobie and As-stin Chad/rachel l4h fred Robert Brown loony bethany/lonny etc etc All creationists !!!

      Was the bible around back then ?

      Human Y Chromosome Much Older Than Previously Thought

      Mar. 4, 2013 — The discovery and analysis of an extremely rare African American Y chromosome pushes back the time of the most recent common ancestor for the Y chromosome lineage tree to 338,000 years ago. This time predates the age of the oldest known anatomically modern human fossils.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130305145821.htm

      No god(s) needed or required to graduate from public schools in the US

      Remember : Adam had to POKE himself hard with his OWN BONE to create Eve.

      Peace

      March 10, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
  18. Reality

    Such a waste of time and money!!! And you ask why? Read on:

    Only for the new members of this blog:

    Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    Added details available upon written request.

    A quick search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

    e.g. Taoism

    "The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

    Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother's womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. "

    March 10, 2013 at 12:39 pm |
    • Correctlycenter

      Who wants to replace GOD? Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and other humanistic totalitarian ruthless, murderous, barbaric and power hungry dictators of recent history. It's safe to say that experiment failed. Man can never be perfected! That's why Jesus died on the cross. Tens of millions murdered! And spare me the atrocities of the popes throughout the centuries. I'm a believer in Christ, not the RCC...

      March 10, 2013 at 7:09 pm |
    • Laurence Charles Ringo

      Wow,"Reality".I didn't think I was a particularly slow person,but reading your endlessly recycled post just now,it dawned on me:atheists are just boring! You trot the same trite,unimaginative pseudo-arguments,you certainly have zero understanding of the nature of true faith in transcendant issues(your finite minds are too small to grasp them),and for some sadly absurd reason you actually think mockery,ridicule,and scorn is somehow effective in advancing your agenda! Wow!Talk about living in a fairy tale! Now,I won't presume to speak for other faiths,traditions,et.al.,but I want to make it clear from a Christian perspective:As long as JESUS IS LORD of our lives,there will ALWAYS be believers.ALWAYS!! So...give it a rest;its no wonder we rarely attempt to engage in dialogue with those of your ilk,at least on posts like CNN's"Belief Blog";since YOU already have the answers you want to believe,seriously,what would be the point?(That goes for you too"End Religion"!)-It's like attempting to talk to donkeys!! I've asked before and I'll ask again,as futile as I expect my query is:Why ARE atheists,agnostics,skeptics,haters,etc.on a BELIEF BLOG?? Don't you have a "unbelief blog"-No? PEACE & LOVE IN CHRIST!

      March 10, 2013 at 7:13 pm |
    • End Religion

      Debunked, refuted and dispelled multiple times a day. And now specifically posted:
      – 3 times for "SoldierOfConscience"
      – 1 times for "Chad"
      – 1 times for "fred"
      – 1 times for "Peace out."
      – 1 times for "The Crazy Jew"
      – 1 times for "DrPhill"
      – 1 times for "chrissy hitchens"
      – 1 times for "James"
      – 1 times for "truth be told"
      – 1 times for "Correctlycenter"

      Goodness only knows how many of those sock puppets are the work of one stubbornly deluded individual, since we know Chad and TBT post under several monikers.

      None of the totalitarian characters trotted out in the "atheists have killed more people" fallacy, whether they were atheist or not, killed in the name of a lack of belief in a god. Some of them suppressed religion as a tool to further the goal of totalitarian control.

      "State-imposed atheism" is a misnomer; there can be no such thing. Imposed irreligion is not atheism. Atheism is only the lack of belief in a god; one can't force people to not believe in a god.

      The actions of Mao, Pol and Joe (who attended seminary) were totalitarian opportunists. They sought total authority and banned religion which would compete with that authority. The pursuit of control over a people was the cause for the bloodshed.

      Although Stalin initially sought to rid Russia of religion, once firmly in office he re-instituted the Russian Orthodox Church and re-opened theological schools. Suppression of religion was a tool not a reason.

      Pol Pot is said to have practiced some Theravada Buddhism (and his Khmer Rouge were radical Buddhists). He studied at a Catholic school in Phnom Pen for 8 years. This mad man targeted not only religion but science, medicine and education. Political dissent was not permitted, with torture a common sentence.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

      Hitler was raised Catholic. In his book Mein Kampf and in public speeches he made statements affirming a belief in Christianity. He called the purge of Jews "positive Christianity." While there is debate over his actual private feelings about the faith, he was a publicly practicing Christian. There exists no known evidence that Hitler was an atheist or agnostic. Again: evidence he was Christian; no evidence he was otherwise.

      Hitler said: "Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

      The Reichskonkordat was a treaty signed on 20 July 1933 between the Holy See (Catholic Church) and Nazi Germany, guaranteeing the rights of the Roman Catholic Church in Germany, giving moral legitimacy to the Nazi regime soon after Hitler had acquired dictatorial powers, and placing constraints on Catholic critics of the regime, leading to a muted response by the Church to Nazi policies. Yes, the Catholic Church colluded with Nazis.

      http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?ti.tle=20th_century_atrocities (take dot out of 'title')
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

      March 10, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
    • End Religion

      Wow,"Reality".I didn't think I was a particularly slow person,but reading your endlessly recycled post just now,it dawned on me:Chrsitians are just boring! You trot the same trite,unimaginative pseudo-arguments,you certainly have zero understanding of the nature of true faith in transcendant issues(your finite minds are too small to grasp them),and for some sadly absurd reason you actually think mockery,ridicule,and scorn is somehow effective in advancing your agenda! Wow!Talk about living in a fairy tale! Now,I won't presume to speak for other faiths,traditions,et.al.,but I want to make it clear from a Pastafarian perspective:As long as THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER IS LORD of our lives,there will ALWAYS be believers.ALWAYS!! So...give it a rest;its no wonder we rarely attempt to engage in dialogue with those of your ilk,at least on posts like CNN's"Belief Blog";since YOU already have the answers you want to believe,seriously,what would be the point?(That goes for you too"End Religion"!)-It's like attempting to talk to donkeys!! I've asked before and I'll ask again,as futile as I expect my query is:Why ARE chrsitians,etc.on a BELIEF BLOG?? Don't you have a "unbelief blog"-No? PEACE & LOVE IN FSM!

      March 10, 2013 at 7:20 pm |
    • truth be told

      hitler was an atheist.

      March 10, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
    • truth be told

      no bunk

      March 10, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
    • Prove it!

      truth be told "Hitler was an atheist."
      Also please explain away the fact that Hitler's army was 99% christian

      March 10, 2013 at 9:01 pm |
    • .

      I see Lawrence Ringo still types like shit.

      March 10, 2013 at 9:46 pm |
  19. American Pope

    Go Dolan go !!! we need Americans running Vatican, it is time we Americanize the foundation of all abuses; it is time we bring all culprits to justice.

    March 10, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
    • Akira

      Cardinal Dolan is on SNAP's list of 12 Cardinals in the running for Pope that covered up abuse; unsure as to what he would do if elected Pope.
      Given his past performance in that area, it is unlikely he would do much, IMO.

      March 10, 2013 at 1:06 pm |
    • JMEF

      SNAP's list? What is the line in Vegas?

      March 10, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • Science

      Hey JMEF here is what the Huffington post says.

      (RNS) It's not just the future of the Catholic Church riding on the selection of the next pope.

      More than 20,000 people have bet hundreds of thousands of dollars on the papal change and international bookmakers expect that dollar figure to quickly move into the millions.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/03/pope-betting-thousands-of-people-wagering-on-a-new-pontiff_n_2795695.html

      Should be used (money) for something else. Good educatyion with out fairy in the sky is a start maybe.

      Paece

      March 10, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • Science

      Oops education

      Paece

      March 10, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • Akira

      JMEF: I don't know what the Vegas oddsmakers are giving them...

      March 10, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • EX catholic

      If you believe, that just because an American becomes Cardinal there will be some Justice done, then I have some Land in the Everglades to sell you. I can also sell you the Brooklyn bridge at a bargain price just for you.

      March 10, 2013 at 4:41 pm |
    • Quest ion

      If they elect an American as Pope; will he be overweight, obese, even morbidly obese? I mean Americans are all fat, overweight, obese gluttons, therefore an American Pope will be also; or not?

      March 11, 2013 at 10:42 am |
  20. Science

    Why can't he charm this away? maybe he will READ the blog maybe not???

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/09/my-take-a-word-to-christians-be-nice/comment-page-75/#comments

    March 10, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • The Devil

      Should be REQUIRED READING for the conclave !

      Peace

      March 10, 2013 at 12:18 pm |
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