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Cardinal Dolan charms worshippers at Rome Mass
Cardinal Timothy Dolan waves to supporters after celebrating Mass at this titular church in Rome.
March 10th, 2013
11:51 AM ET

Cardinal Dolan charms worshippers at Rome Mass

By Chris Cuomo and Eric Marrapodi, CNN
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Rome (CNN) - Crowds lined the walls and spilled out the front door of the Church of Our Lady of Guadalupe on Monte Mario on Sunday to catch a glimpse of the gregarious American Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York, who smiled broadly as he came into the church, stopping to wave to photographers and kiss a baby whose parents were holding him up.

Dolan has made the short lists of some Vatican watchers as a likely choice to be elected as the next pope by the College of Cardinals, a designation called "papabili" in Italian.

A local officiant began the service by saying it was great to have Dolan at the church close to Easter.

"All these people are showing the power of the church," he said.

Dolan thanked the officiant in Italian.

"Thank you for the kind words. This is a big task. Truly a blessing to be with you. Now let's get to why we're here - to pray."

He led the congregants of his titular church in a prayer of contrition. A titular church is the house of worship in Rome assigned to a cardinal when he gets his red hat. It's by virtue of technically being a priest of Rome that a cardinal gets to vote for the Bishop of Rome - the pope.

The Mass proceeded in Italian.

In his homily, Dolan said he was "full of joy to be here at my titular church" and that he always feels "at home here."

"After St. Patrick's Church - here's a secret - this is my favorite," Dolan said, drawing applause from worshippers. "Don't tell the people of New York, OK?"

He spoke briefly about the reason the world's cardinals have descended on Rome, the conclave, which he called a "system of prayer - and it's also a joy for the cardinals to pick a pope."

"Thank you for being here," he said. "I'm not going to say too much. Just thanks for being here with me. "

After the service, reporters were hustled into an alley, then led to a courtyard in the rectory next to the church.

Dolan fielded a bevy of questions from reporters on the cardinals' thinking heading into the conclave and speculation he may be the one to emerge as the next supreme pontiff for the Catholic Church.  He laughed off many of the questions and said the cardinals were ready for their time of prayer and discernment.

Dolan said not only was he ready for the conclave to begin but he also  added, "I'm ready to go home - I’ve run out of socks."

When asked what type of socks he needed, he said he needed green socks for St. Patrick's Day, because he already had plenty of red in his cardinal wardrobe.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Bishops • Catholic Church • Italy • Mass • Pope • Vatican

soundoff (344 Responses)
  1. ME II

    @Answerman,
    Why does the Bible say the earth is a circle when it clearly is spherical?

    March 11, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
  2. Answerman

    @Really? Wrong. The Rx symbol was not two letters of the latin alphabet when that synbol was devised originally in ancient Egypt long before Greek physicians adopted it.
    Originally, that symbol was an 'R' with a slash through it and was the symbol for the eye of Horus found on the back of US dollar bills., the pagan god of medicine.

    March 11, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Sources?

      March 11, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • Really?

      No you're wrong again, that is folklore. Folk theories about the origin of the symbol ℞ note its similarity to the Eye of Horus, or to the ancient symbol for Zeus or Jupiter, (♃), gods whose protection may have been sought in medical contexts.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
  3. Answerman

    Who in their right mind would believe a handful of men conspired to form 66 books (the bible) over many centuries and devise lofty ethics and the greatest man who ever lived, Jesus Christ?
    One would have to be fairly stupid to believe in such a conspiracy theory.

    March 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
    • Terry

      "and devise lofty ethics and the greatest man who ever lived, Jesus Christ?"

      The ones that stole it from Mithra! He is the true son of God!

      March 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Who would be stupid enough to think that everyone who doesn't agree with you thinks it was a conspiracy? You apparently.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
  4. ME II

    "Again, HOGWASH!!! @ME II. Over the centuries, God's word has remained the same."

    OT vs. NT?

    March 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
    • ME II

      @Answerman.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
  5. Quest ion

    Why is that guy behind Cardinal Dolan looking at him that way?

    March 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
  6. Answerman

    Again, HOGWASH!!! @ME II. Over the centuries, God's word has remained the same. (other than where wicked men and imposters have intentionally mistranslated modern versions of God's word...the word 'pharmakeia' being purposely mistranslated as witchcraft, for example)
    SCIENCE keeps changing it's mind, not God.

    March 11, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
    • Smithsonian

      "Over the centuries, God's word has remained the same."

      The stories found in the Book of Genesis, Chapter 1-12, such as the flood story, the record is quite different: the time period under consideration is much more ancient. The factual bases of the stories are hidden from our view archaeologically. The stories remain a part of folk traditions and were included in the Bible to illustrate and explain theological ideas such as: Where did humans come from? If humans were created by God (who is perfect and good), how did evil among them come to be? If we are all related as children of God, why do we speak different languages? It must be remembered that the Bible is primarily a book of religion, a guide to faith. it was not a book of history, poetry, economics, or science. It contains all sorts of literary genre, which are used to teach about the relationship between God and mankind. Even biblical history is edited history: events were chosen to illustrate the central theme of the Bible. The Biblical writers did not pretend they were giving a complete history; instead they constantly refer us to other sources for full historical details, sources such as "The Annals of the Kings of Judah" (or Israel).

      It is therefore not possible to try to "prove" the Bible by means of checking its historical or scientific accuracy. The only "proof" to which it can be subjected is this: Does it correctly portray the God-human relationship? In the best analysis, the Bible is a religious book, not an historical document.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
    • Chuckles

      I think you need to go to the pharmakia....

      March 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • clarity

      There is a reply button. Also, why don't you try backing up your outlandish ideas with some evidence.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
    • sam stone

      Answerman: And you feel this is a good thing?

      March 11, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • End Religion

      the bible has continually changed since its inception. It is changing even now.

      March 11, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
  7. EX catholic

    We can conclude that Catholics are in Fact IDOLATERS. IDOLATRY is a Very Serious and grave SIN, it is Not Religion.

    March 11, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
    • ME II

      " IDOLATRY is a Very Serious and grave SIN, it is Not Religion."

      Why do you think so?

      March 11, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
  8. ME II

    @Answerman,
    Does the "reply" link not work for you?

    March 11, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
    • End Religion

      this is on the list...

      A few reasons why religious people are so stupid:
      – do not understand Sunday is a day off for many people
      – they feel it's honorable to post on hobby/interest blogs while at work
      – do not understand time zones and/or that web sites may be accessed 24/7 by international visitors
      – do not understand that even within a single time zone humans may have different sleep habits
      – argue erroneously multiple times a day that Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot were atheists
      – cling to same arguments even after shown multiple lines of evidence and probabilistic reasoning to the contrary
      – they cannot understand the "reply" functionality of a blog
      – continually redefine common words to suit their needs
      – they use belief as an excuse for their bigotry and hatred
      – I have never met any group of people who lie more often than Christians, which is really odd because it is a Top 10 Sin to lie. WTF?

      March 11, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
  9. Answerman

    @Chuckles. HOGWASH!!! The men who devised Greek mythology were also the men who devised pharmakeia and are nothing like the God of the bible that bans Christians from the practice of taking pharmaceuticals.
    Perhaps you have confused true pagans with true Christians just as you have lumped pagan gods in the same catergory as the true and living God.
    Your Rx symbol originated with the one-eyed medicine god of ancient pagan Egyptians, NOT with the true God. (and can be found on the back of your dollar bill right now)
    Are you on meds too? ( as the rest of US citizens spend more on pharmaceuiticals than on national defense.)

    March 11, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Wow, you're kind of insane aren't you?

      March 11, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Um.... what?

      What exactly were you responding to exactly? Also, do "true christians" (whatever the hell that means) never take any pharmaceutical drug? If that's the case there's an incredible small amount of people you think are "true christians" which is of course utter foolishness.

      Also, PS, if you want to be taken seriously in any kind of way, I suggest staying away from crazy conspiracy theories.....

      March 11, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
    • Really?

      "Your Rx symbol originated with the one-eyed medicine god of ancient pagan Egyptians, NOT with the true God"

      No, it didn't. Rx is an abbreviation for the Latin word "recipere" or "recipe," which means "Take, thou." In the days before manufactured drugs, apothecaries (who were also doctors) would write out a formula for medications. They would mix up and compound ingredients to make drugs or remedies. Not until well into the 19th century was the distinction between the apothecary/pharmacist as a compounder of medicines and the physician as a therapist generally accepted. According to the Pharmaceutical Handbook (nineteenth edition, 1980), the Latin abbreviation Rx is completed by some statement such as "fiat mistura," which means "let a mixture be made," sometimes abbreviated to f. m. or ft. mist. or fait mist.)

      March 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm |
    • DamianKnight

      Ummm...what? Sorry, but I have to jump in here. As a Christian, I don't recall one place that Christ strictly bans the use of medicine. Can I have chapter and verse on that, please?

      March 11, 2013 at 6:32 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Damian

      Don't bother, this guy is as nutty as an almond joy. He's just spouting lots of conspiracy theories. Just wait till you read his bit on nazis and pharmaceuticals. It's a page turner.

      March 11, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
  10. Answerman

    To this very day, scientists simply cannot explain why humans grow old and die. Scientists know why every other species of animal ages and dies...but when it comes to humans, are clueless. Only the bible explains why. (each generation inherits imperfections of the previous generation) The word 'sin' literally means 'missing the mark of perfection.
    Scientists are also at a loss when it comes to explaining why humans use less than 1/10th of 1% of the human brain's memory capacity during the human lifespan, where God's word akes it clear: Humans were created to live forever, other animals simply weren't.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Is all you know how to do is post and run like a coward?

      March 11, 2013 at 4:58 pm |
    • Really?

      " Scientists know why every other species of animal ages and dies...but when it comes to humans, are clueless"

      You're wrong again. Scientists observe that the length of telomere chains becomes shorter as we grow older. Eventually the telomeres become so short that cell replication produces lethal errors or missing pieces in the DNA sequence, ending the cell's ability to replace itself. This point, when the cell has lost vital DNA code and cannot reproduce, is called the Hayflick limit. It's the measure of how many times a cell can copy itself before it dies.

      Some cells in our body have a very high hayflick limit. Cells that line the inside of your mouth and intestines, for example, are constantly being worn away and replaced. Indeed these cells appear to have the ability to regrow telomeres even in aged bodies. Scientists were curious why some cells shut down telomere growth with age, and some do not

      March 11, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
    • ME II

      "humans use less than 1/10th of 1% of the human brain's memory capacity during the human lifespan"

      What a crock! Where'd you get this?

      March 11, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
    • Really?

      "Scientists are also at a loss when it comes to explaining why humans use less than 1/10th of 1% of the human brain's memory capacity during the human lifespan"

      March 11, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • Really?

      ""Scientists are also at a loss when it comes to explaining why humans use less than 1/10th of 1% of the human brain's memory capacity during the human lifespan""

      The human brain consists of about one billion neurons. Each neuron forms about 1,000 connections to other neurons, amounting to more than a trillion connections. If each neuron could only help store a single memory, running out of space would be a problem. You might have only a few gigabytes of storage space, similar to the space in an iPod or a USB flash drive. Yet neurons combine so that each one helps with many memories at a time, exponentially increasing the brain’s memory storage capacity to something closer to around 2.5 petabytes (or a million gigabytes).

      March 11, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
  11. Answerman

    Men still worship creation rather than the creator, Honey badger.
    Even simple things men make, like computers, are found to be amazing while the humman brain is ignored.
    For a modern computer to be able to make calculations the human brain makes during sleep, that computer would need to be about 3 feet tall and cover the surface of the earth. Yet, look at all the attention PCs recieve as the human brain is taken for granted.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
    • Billly

      Your looney tune "answers" aren't even answers since you are inept at actually replying.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
  12. Answerman

    Prayer, in and of itself, has no power whatsoever.
    "Your faith has healed you." said Jesus Christ to many whom he had healed.
    "Faith is the ssured expectation of things hoped for...the EVIDENT demonstrstion of REALITIES thoigh not beheld." -The apostle Paul in his letter to the Christian church in Jerusalem. (Hebrews 11:1)
    Without intimate knowledge and understanding of God's word, 'faith' simply does not exist.
    Faith is based on evidence found in God's word and is NOT blind. Prayers uttered in ignorance of God's word have no power. "A righteous mans supplications carry much weight with God" and "The tear filled prayers are those heard" are two bible quotes that show not all prayers contain power or are acceptably heard by God.
    No-matter what you pray, if it is not in line with God's word it is nothing more than smoke coming out of your mouth.
    Know your bible.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
  13. EX catholic

    End Religion. Are you one or the other or both?

    March 11, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • End Religion

      All I know is you are an Idolater and bound for hell.

      March 11, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
  14. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things .

    March 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • religion; a way to control the weak minded

      prayer obviously didnt keep priests from raping young kids, but try again.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      March 11, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives, than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie!

      March 11, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
  15. Answerman

    "The earth is a circle hanging upon nothing." proclaimed God's word as scientists claimed the earth was flat. How did a simple man, Job, know the earth wasn't flat thousands of years before scientists finally figured it out?

    March 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      A circle is not a three dimensional object. Even if it was, the ancient greeks knew the earth wasn't flat, and actually go really close to the size of the earth through the use of Algebra.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Answerman

      Job didn't see the the earth wasn't flat, he just said it was a circle instead of a square, he said nothing about it being sphericle. Please get an education, your ignorance is breath taking.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
  16. Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

    =================================================
    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
  17. Answerman

    ...that organized religion would end at the hand of governments is also a prophecy found in God's word.
    How long did the Jewish religion get-away with making a mockery of God's Word Jesus Christ before the mighty pagan Roman empire was loosed on them?
    About 37 years after the last Jew spit on Jesus, pagan Roman armies destroyed Jerusalem and the temple.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • Chuckles

      HA

      This is my favorite by far. So it wsa the jews fault right?!

      I didn't realize we were back in the Dark Ages again.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:28 pm |
  18. Answerman

    "God is clearly be percieved by things created." says The Word.
    For example, sh/t stinks and flowers smell nice. Behold the wisdom of God. What? Do you really think it was by accident that flowers would smell nice to men while poop stinks?

    March 11, 2013 at 4:21 pm |
    • Chuckles

      And yet incredibly delicious berries can be poisonous......

      Shucks, looks like your hypothesis just fell flat on its face.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • OTOH

      Answerman,

      I guess you have never smelled "carrion flowers" –http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ww0602.htm
      or Amorphophallus T.itanum, also known as "Corpse Flower,"
      or even pear tree blossoms and those of photinia and many others.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
  19. Answerman

    If God's word commanded to invade and occupy enemies rather than to love your enemies, many would believe.
    Had God's word commanded us to party, do drugs, fornicate, abort, rob and kill, many more would believe.
    It is because God's word condemns certain chosen lifestyles is a BIG reason why people avoid God and his word like the plague and attack it as a disease.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • End Religion

      “I’m going to tell you what happened to me last night, but first I want you to presuppose that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, and that some of that intelligent life is hovering in a cloaked ship above the atmosphere at this very moment, and also it is desperately in love with me.” – Russell Glasser

      March 11, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
  20. Answerman

    "A day to God is as a thousand years to man" says The Word. Again, get a clue Cranium.
    You are totally ignorant of God's word and have confused it with heresay you have heard.

    March 11, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
    • End Religion

      There is no such thing as god's word. The bible is fiction. Your god does not exist.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      To deny God is to deny yourself since God created man in His image. And that means you were given a soul, God's life within you. Wether or not you accept it is is a choice but irrelevant. Therefore, End Religion, you don't really exist.

      March 11, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Smithsonian

      ""A day to God is as a thousand years to man" says The Word."

      The Bible is primarily a book of religion, a guide to faith. it was not a book of history, poetry, economics, or science. It contains all sorts of literary genre, which are used to teach about the relationship between God and mankind. Even biblical history is edited history: events were chosen to illustrate the central theme of the Bible. The Biblical writers did not pretend they were giving a complete history; instead they constantly refer us to other sources for full historical details, sources such as "The Annals of the Kings of Judah" (or Israel).

      It is therefore not possible to try to "prove" the Bible by means of checking its historical or scientific accuracy. The only "proof" to which it can be subjected is this: Does it correctly portray the God-human relationship? In the best analysis, the Bible is a religious book, not an historical document.

      March 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • End Religion

      "To deny God is to deny yourself since God created man in His image. And that means you were given a soul, God's life within you. Wether or not you accept it is is a choice but irrelevant. Therefore, End Religion, you don't really exist."

      Except of course, your god doesn't exist so the rest of your lies are just senseless mythology that you cannot let go of.

      March 11, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
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