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![]() Cardinal Timothy Dolan waves to supporters after celebrating Mass at this titular church in Rome.
March 10th, 2013
11:51 AM ET
Cardinal Dolan charms worshippers at Rome MassBy Chris Cuomo and Eric Marrapodi, CNN Rome (CNN) - Crowds lined the walls and spilled out the front door of the Church of Our Lady of Guadalupe on Monte Mario on Sunday to catch a glimpse of the gregarious American Cardinal Timothy Dolan, archbishop of New York, who smiled broadly as he came into the church, stopping to wave to photographers and kiss a baby whose parents were holding him up. Dolan has made the short lists of some Vatican watchers as a likely choice to be elected as the next pope by the College of Cardinals, a designation called "papabili" in Italian. A local officiant began the service by saying it was great to have Dolan at the church close to Easter. "All these people are showing the power of the church," he said. Dolan thanked the officiant in Italian. "Thank you for the kind words. This is a big task. Truly a blessing to be with you. Now let's get to why we're here - to pray." He led the congregants of his titular church in a prayer of contrition. A titular church is the house of worship in Rome assigned to a cardinal when he gets his red hat. It's by virtue of technically being a priest of Rome that a cardinal gets to vote for the Bishop of Rome - the pope. The Mass proceeded in Italian. In his homily, Dolan said he was "full of joy to be here at my titular church" and that he always feels "at home here." "After St. Patrick's Church - here's a secret - this is my favorite," Dolan said, drawing applause from worshippers. "Don't tell the people of New York, OK?" He spoke briefly about the reason the world's cardinals have descended on Rome, the conclave, which he called a "system of prayer - and it's also a joy for the cardinals to pick a pope." "Thank you for being here," he said. "I'm not going to say too much. Just thanks for being here with me. " After the service, reporters were hustled into an alley, then led to a courtyard in the rectory next to the church. Dolan fielded a bevy of questions from reporters on the cardinals' thinking heading into the conclave and speculation he may be the one to emerge as the next supreme pontiff for the Catholic Church. He laughed off many of the questions and said the cardinals were ready for their time of prayer and discernment. Dolan said not only was he ready for the conclave to begin but he also added, "I'm ready to go home - I’ve run out of socks." When asked what type of socks he needed, he said he needed green socks for St. Patrick's Day, because he already had plenty of red in his cardinal wardrobe. |
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I was just reading this HIV/AIDS discussion. I saw on the news today that infants born with HIV can be functionally cured at birth. Excellent scientific progress. Awesome.
I've heard of that. At this point we don't know if it was merely an anomoly or indicative of something more reliable. Exciting stuff though.
"Jesus prophecied that one day there would be "men marrying", and now we see his prophecy fulfilled."
We are waiting on a scripture number for this statement.
Come on now....we are still waiting....and waiting for you to prove you know the bible, answer the question.
As America's ways, such as obesity, spread around the world, a time of peace and calm will befall all of manking just as prophecied in God's word. "True Peace and Security" will be proclaimed, just as the apostle Paul 'predicted'.
However, this peace filled time will not last. It will not take Jesus Christ very long to find every single one of his obedient followers...every last lost sheep...the last prodigal son will be found. As people around the world starr becoming obese like US, OBISITY will become pandemic and usher in the collapse of all of the world's systems, the foretold "conclusion of this system of things" as said Jesus Christ. 🙂 Yet! there is still time. 🙂
what's it gonna hurt? KNOW your bible!
Tell us what you know of your book then.
Recite it.
Let's see if you're into that new loving jeebus or the pr!ck one.
You are a great case of the delusional mind. Do you know how many Christians have tried to make the same claim you are in the past, over and over again, century after century. The more you post the more it shows you DON"T know the bible.
""True Peace and Security" will be proclaimed,"
Please cite your source that this was ever proclaimed?
"""True Peace and Security" will be proclaimed,"
Please cite your source that this was ever proclaimed?"
They can't because they are lying.
Answerman, let me help you out:
1. There are people starving all over the world, including the U.S.A.
2. There is no so such thing as “prophecy”. Magic doesn’t exit.
3. Paul was not a believer, until a zombie showed up and he went bonkers. How come Jesus doesn’t’ visit us?
4. Know your Harry Potter
5. Learn to spell.
Your pal, AB
"As people around the world starr becoming obese like US, OBISITY will become pandemic and usher in the collapse of all of the world's systems" Well thankfully the worlds systems are not placed on shopping mall foodcourt benches or that "prophecy" might come true...
I love how you use the word "obese" correctly but them misspell "obesity" two words later. Are you sure you are not "THE TRUTH" from another thread? Poor spelling and grammar seems to be his MO...
I thought I had just about heard it all. I have to say this is the first time I've heard that "end times" will be brought about by obesity. Maybe he has a point – a New York judge just overturned the New York law against large sodas. REPENT!
From all these hilarious religious mumble jumbo I presume that this 'Answerman' must be that crack-wh0re 'Austin'.
Got tired of being trashed to pieces and now has to come up with a new moniker to do the same c-r-a-p. Except that 'it' can no longer go and reveal he has the same dreams over and over again. I wonder when this tool will expose itself by repeating what the other former nickname has been repeating.
It's surprising when an idiot christian drops his former moniker – that he can't use the same 'line of material' – or be revealing itself. XD
And do full of fear to answer the hard questions. LOL!
Yup they can't answer any questions being asked of them. Especially when it comes to their own book.
The OLD testament bothers them too much. The NEW testament is just a flake of 'a loving jeebus'. Both books are equally junk.
Only for the those interested in a religious update: (and only for those new members of this blog).
1. origin: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482
“New Torah For Modern Minds
Abraham, the Jewish patriarch, probably never existed. Nor did Moses. The entire Exodus story as recounted in the Bible probably never occurred. The same is true of the tumbling of the walls of Jericho. And David, far from being the fearless king who built Jerusalem into a mighty capital, was more likely a provincial leader whose reputation was later magnified to provide a rallying point for a fledgling nation.
Such startling propositions – the product of findings by archaeologists digging in Israel and its environs over the last 25 years – have gained wide acceptance among non-Orthodox rabbis. But there has been no attempt to disseminate these ideas or to discuss them with the laity – until now.
The United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism, which represents the 1.5 million Conservative Jews in the United States, has just issued a new Torah and commentary, the first for Conservatives in more than 60 years. Called "Etz Hayim" ("Tree of Life" in Hebrew), it offers an interpretation that incorporates the latest findings from archaeology, philology, anthropology and the study of ancient cultures. To the editors who worked on the book, it represents one of the boldest efforts ever to introduce into the religious mainstream a view of the Bible as a human rather than divine docu-ment. “
prob•a•bly
Adverb: Almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell.
2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations (or “mythicizing” from P, M, M, L and J) and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a ma-mzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). An-alyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Ludemann, Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen, ) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.
The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hitt-ites, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
earlychristianwritings.com/
For added "pizzazz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "filicider".
Current RCC problems:
Pedophiliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!
2 b., Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immacu-late co-nceptions).
Current problems:
Adulterous preachers, pedophiliac clerics, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,
Christians, were Adam and Eve Neanderthals or Homo sapiens? Or were they swingers?
They did like them some snakes...
The CDC officially classifies AIDS as being pandemic now, where before classified AIDS as being an epicemic.
How's THIS for fear:
The fear of America's nationwide obesity epidemic becoming pandemic as America's ways (The American way of life being) spread around the world, mostly by economic hitmen but also by US troops invading and occupying...also rebellious youths even in Iran lusting to be free to violate their own taught holy word just as we ourselves have been taught to violate the laws of Jesus Christ, even by our own "christian" leaders.
From the CDC website.The number of people living with AIDS is increasing, as effective new drug therapies keep HIV-infected persons healthy longer and dramatically reduce the death rate. CDC’s programs work to improve treatment, care, and support for persons living with HIV/AIDS and to build capacity and infrastructure to address the HIV/AIDS epidemic in the United States and around the world.
Now do some research on the great depression and level of fear during that time. Nothing happening today compares to that.
Roosevelt declared in his lilting style, "Let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is, fear itself — needless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."
"Jesus prophecied that one day there would be "men marrying", and now we see his prophecy fulfilled."
We are waiting on a scripture number for this statement.
Come on now....we are still waiting....
...yeah. Christ never speaks about ho.mo.se.xuality in the Bible. Paul speaks a lot about it, but Jesus never does, so I'm waiting for chapter on verse on this too.
Answerman...the sky is falling...the sky is falling....quick use the fear to sell your god....the sky is falling....the sky is falling....RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To argue that the level of fear humans live in today is the same as has always been is stupid.
Why is that? Do you have some sort of empirical measure of fear? Is this a long running measure with historical data? Can you support any claim you have made? Do you ever respond to anyone? Do you even know how to use the reply button?
No, it's less today.
You must be the new 'Austin'.
Who the heck if arguing with you? From what I can tell, you're just arguing with yourself.
"You're a looney"
–King Arthur
Who .. is arguing . .
I was born during the Cuban missile crisis, I watched body counts from Vietnam on TV every night, I saw the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Berlin wall come down, and now we have been at war for over a decade, in a fight that can't be won. The level of fear in this country has always been high and it is getting nothing but worse because our politicians have lost all shame over exploiting our fear and ignorance.
My Dog is a jealous Dog "I was born during the Cuban missile crisis"
I lived through it and I guarantee you the level of fear now is nothing close to what it was then. Think of living for 3 days with the presidents finger LITERALY ON THE BUTTON, with the horrors of complete nuclear devastation
It was fear of "invading terrorists" that sold America on the idea of The Patriot Act, and had Congress funding the largest prison building increase in US history...building over 160 Homeland Security Prisons after 9/11 to house the thousands and thousands of terrorists George Bush claimed he was going to drag to justice but are being shot as suspects overseas instead.
The black mold going to get you ! Chomp
No, a report came out about the harmful effects of over crowding in the prison systems which is why more prisons have gone up. We have also made tougher laws too and increased sentences, that too plays into the over crowding issue.
The more you post the more you prove you're an idiot.
"Jesus prophecied that one day there would be "men marrying", and now we see his prophecy fulfilled."
We are waiting on a scripture number for this statement.
Another version of Chad/l4h and topher .
That IS what's wrong with today's organized religions that threaten people with some sort of burning hellfire!
The word "Hell" is NOWHERE to be found in our oldest manusripts of God's word...'grave' was mistranslated as "Hell" to scare people, just as 'pharmaceuticals' was mistranslated as "Witchcraft" to mislead even Christians into taking pagan drugs.
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@Answerman
So you don't believe in taking any pharmaceuticals ever? Not even aspirin for a migraine, or antibiotics for an infection?
Talking of pharmaceuticals, did you forget to take your medication?
...so much fear, that even "The home of the brave" (US) now spend more on drugs than on national defense to escape feeling it!
The baby boomers are getting older and need more medications. LMAO!
Where did you hear that the US spends more on drugs than on defense? Also do you mean illegal drugs, or pharmaceuticals?
@Clarity, you cherry pick. Jesus prophecied that one day there would be "men marrying", and now we see his prophecy fulfilled.
People laughed at Jesus as he spoke these words 2000 years ago just as Americans of just a couple of decades ago did at the idea of men marrying. And now that men are marrying his prophecy is ignored, even by you who cherry picked "fears" like never before being experienced.
Millions of Americans were terrified by a comic radio broadcast depicting aliens invading, for example. Many millions more terrified by the idea of thousands of "invading terrorists" invading America to the point 160 DHS prisons were built to confine them after 9/11, an invasion that never came but prisons built for invading terrorists filled anyway. (w/American citizens)
The fear of catastrauphic weather persists as never before, for another example. Fear of AIDS, Fear of EQs coming one right after another, fear of openly gay religious leaders raypeing underaged males, fear of an uncertain future...so much..
Where in the bible did Jesus predict that there would be men marrying?
"Jesus prophecied that one day there would be "men marrying","
Put a scripture number to this one...we'll be waiting....
You still aren't citing where this "men marrying" prophecy is.....
Also, mr. fear monger, you're crazy as sh.it
"Fear of AIDS"
There is no fear now, the drug treatments are working and a cure is just around the corner, they've cured a baby and they've cured it in monkeys.
"The fear of catastrauphic weather persists as never before, for another example. Fear of AIDS, Fear of EQs coming one right after another, fear of openly gay religious leaders raypeing underaged males, fear of an uncertain future...so much.."
I would bet that during Hitler's time people thought the world was going to end more so than now. That's what's so wrong with your religion, you need fear to sell it.
Answerman,
Even if one is silly enough to believe that psycho in Revelation, "men" means "humans" or "people" there.
Would you say that women and children get a free pass from "No "man" cometh unto the Father, blah, blah, blah..."?!
clarifying – the "men marrying" comes from Matthew 24:38-39, but since you jumbled it in with the rest of your Revelation dreck, I got sidetracked. The translation stands.
Who can prove Jesus was wrong?
For example, Jesus Christ made many prophecies concerning our times...from "men becoming faint out of fear in expectation of things occuring on the inhabited earth" to a prophecy even American's of just a few years ago laughed at but now see happening ("Men marrying"), who can prove Jesus Christ's words to be lies?
Prove Jesus actually said anything you completely insane moron.
Ok..... so where was this prophecy?
Go on, cite something, for once.
"men becoming faint out of fear in expectation of things occuring on the inhabited earth"
Is that supposed to be a prophecy? What the heck are you talking about, you loon?
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Jesus said nothing of the sort. He did say he would return in the lifetime of those living at the time.....a prophacy that failed miserably.
Oh please, Nostradamus made better predictions.
No. 02 – Sept. 11, 2001
"Earthshaking fire from the center of the Earth
Will cause tremors around the New City.
Two great rocks will war for a long time,
Then Arethusa will redden a new river."
Sept. 11! and guess what there are water features there now.
"38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
That is going to be one HUUUUGE ejaculation...
Or this one from him.
About the Atomic Bomb
"Near the gates and within two cities
There will be scourges the like of which was never seen,
Famine within plague, people put out by steel,
Crying to the great immortal God for relief."
Let's face it. It's an accurate description of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. "Scourges the like of which was never seen," people "crying to the great immortal God."
@OhPlease!
I think Nostradameus is the most famous time traveler of all time, I'm just wondering when it is we invent time travel to send him back.
At any rate, we KNOW pharmaceuticals originated from men who worshipped gods other than the one found described in the bible.
We also know that modern-day pharmaceuticals were devised by NAZI doctors who developed modern versions of ancient drugs by expirimenting on Jews. All but 8 of NAZI Bayer/IG Farben doctors guilty of expirimenting on Jews at their corporate concentration camp were smuggled-out of Germany and into the US via recently declassified US GOV "operation Paperclip". These war criminals went to work for Bayer Pharmaceuticals in N. America and further developed drugs that have altered the very mind of America, who is now obese and stupid.where before she was trim and smart.
Bahahaha
This is excellent
Please keep going, what else did those evil egyptians/greeks/pagans/nazis do? Will this also include any Irani's and/or North Koreans? What about those pesky Commies in China and Russ-oop I mean the USSR?
Why wouldn't you expect that non-christians are smart enough to understand chemistry and produce drugs?
There's not a conspiracy to introduce obesity; as I understand it there are many factors including our sedentary lifestyle, indoor entertainment, processed food, easy access to sugars, fats, etc. which were much harder to obtain throughout most of mankind's history.
...it is why ancient Greek temples built to false gods were flammable. Though made of marble and granite construction, ancient Greek temples still burned down because many were built on top of natural gas leaks intentionally. As medicated temple goers breathed gas fumes they became stupid enough to believe mythological gods were genuine.
Just as medicated churchgoers of today believe their own dulled brains are having a truly spiritial experience as they (just as ancient Greek pagans) get caught-up in loud music and body rythm.
God is a spirit. The phrase "human spirit" as found in your NT literally means 'dominant mental inclination' in english. A drugged mind is inclined to think thoughts that make no logical sense, and is why pharmakeia came to be so popular. Liars prefer dumb audiences.
Wow....have another sip of you beer it might help.
Hello "Answerman". I see that this topic is difficult for you, so I've take the liberty of providing a video that should help you understand the basics. Afterwards, please re-read the replies from others that correctly illuminate your unfounded assertions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g