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Survey: Africans ready for African pope
March 12th, 2013
08:05 AM ET

Survey: Africans ready for African pope

By Sarah Brown, CNN

What are your thoughts on who the next Pope could, or should be? Tell us

(CNN) - Thousands of Africans have expressed their hopes that the next pope will be the first from their continent - with a majority believing it would mean the Catholic Church becoming more conservative.

The survey of 20,000 people, conducted on mobile phones across 11 nations, also exposed big divisions among Africans about the future direction of the church, including faith, homosexuality and race.

"An African pope will bring about more unity on the continent and confidence in Africans," said one woman from Zimbabwe, while a young Nigerian man polled said an African pope "will eradicate immoralities, such as same-sex marriage."

CNN commissioned the survey, partnering with Jana.com, which has pioneered polling in developing countries with fast-growing mobile networks.

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Filed under: Catholic Church • Pope • Pope Benedict XVI • Vatican

soundoff (226 Responses)
  1. Answerman

    No. Churches are led by rich men who lead "non profit" orgs that makes lahhhhhhts and lahhhhhhhhts of money. Even enough extra left to donate to wealthy Jews living abroad! yet are tax-excempt.
    @pope, next: pay taxes on your pair of 10,000 dollar bedroom slippers, for example.

    March 12, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
    • brian

      idiot. nuff said.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:57 pm |
    • .

      no wonder this uneducated person thinks there is a god.

      Oh, cite your source the pope paid that money for the shoes. LMAO!

      March 12, 2013 at 1:02 pm |
    • Akira

      A lot of supposition and innuendo here.
      Citations, please. Put up or shut up.
      You've not posted one reference for all of your insanity. Please do so, or people will continue to call you a blatant liar, I promise you.

      March 12, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • Answerspam

      I don't read what I write.

      March 12, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
  2. Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease. Realistically, many abortions could be avoided if a morning-after pill were not viewed as such an evil option. Many of these same people bring children into the world at a high pace, and then would prefer that the rest of society take over and educate their children in their particular brand of religion when they don't plan well.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

    =================================================
    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
    ================================

    March 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm |
  3. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    To believe body is a human, is way of hindus, ignorant s, believers of hindu Atheism, filthy secular ism, self center ism in defiance of truth absolute GOD, BUT HUMAN IS A SPIRIT, RESIDING IN BODY MADE OF MATERIAL, AND IMPACTED BY ENVIRONMENT, It is not matter of body of a person, but his belief in truth absolute, or to assume himself to be god truth absolute by hindu Judaism, filthy secular ism, self center ism, or baboon ism. Regardless of color of skin, as per doctored hinduism illegality called hindu criminal Catholic ism, it will have no benefit for humanity, but it will extend life of hindu Lucifer ism, criminal secular ism on name of truth absolute by a hindu Pundit, criminal crook pretending to be god himself.

    March 12, 2013 at 12:31 pm |
    • brian

      Islam crook. Nuff said.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm |
  4. Answerspam

    Blah Blah God Blah Goat pencil

    March 12, 2013 at 12:28 pm |
    • Science

      Science

      Maybe this will stay ?

      Moderated post

      Hey bethany CHAD TOO

      Gravity wins no god(s} required splat goes the fairy

      Curtains Down for the Black Hole Firewall Paradox: Making Gravity Safe for Einstein Again

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130306084151.htm

      March 12, 2013 at 6:26 am | Report abuse |

      Bye have a swell day

      March 12, 2013 at 11:16 am | Report abuse

      March 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply

      March 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm |
  5. We don't need A Frickin Pope

    Get it?

    March 12, 2013 at 12:26 pm |
    • .

      We don't need another freaker here. Get it?
      Shut up if you do not know anything about Catholicism, "Answerman". You're an idiot.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
    • Totally right

      Totally right, I agree 100%. I hope the Catholic church will also come to that insight.

      And I do know a lot about Catholicism. It is just abominable in the state it has had.

      March 13, 2013 at 12:23 pm |
  6. Answerman

    ALL "christian" religious leaders, rather than calling on the rightful authorities that stand placed in their position BY GOD to deal with child abusers, call themselves! And is why org. religion will be abolished by said placed powers with authority by God to do just that!

    March 12, 2013 at 12:22 pm |
    • PLEASE DON"T FEED THE TROLLS!!

      .

      March 12, 2013 at 12:24 pm |
    • AB

      If there were a God that might be true.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:25 pm |
  7. Answerman

    You are the only one that linked 'gay' with 'pedophile' here.
    I was simply pointing-out that the vast majority of men (both religious and non-religious) who have been convicted of the statutory raype of underaged males have been gay citizens, both male and female, but mostly male. Any police websote clearly shows that it is almost exlusively men who raype boys these days. It didn't used to be this way.)

    March 12, 2013 at 12:08 pm |
    • nope

      "who have been convicted of the statutory raype of underaged males have been gay citizens, both male and female, but mostly male"

      The distinction between a victim's gender and a perpetrator's sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don't really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

      The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual. The debates about gay people as molesters "have little to do with everyday child abuse" and lamented that they distract lawmakers and the public from dealing with the real problem of children's sexual mistreatment.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • .

      "who have been convicted of the statutory raype of underaged males have been gay citizens, both male and female, but mostly male"

      more lies from the Christian, cite your source or are you going to keep posting lie after lie.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • henry

      You are lying.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • Science

      Science

      thanks again clarity

      clarityThanks
      Your comment is awaiting moderation.

      Roman Catholic Church Se-x Abuse Cases

      http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/r/roman_catholic_church_se-x_abuse_cases/index.html

      Not good

      Take dash out of se-x in url for url to work

      March 12, 2013 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |

      March 12, 2013 at 12:20 pm |
    • ME II

      " the vast majority of men (both religious and non-religious) who have been convicted of the statutory raype of underaged males have been gay citizens,"

      Umm.... wouldn't all 'men' convicted of ra.ping 'boys', by definition, be gay, or at least bi?

      March 12, 2013 at 12:21 pm |
    • Akira

      The famous S&G lyrics spring to mind:
      "A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest."

      ME II: if you go by the popular perception, perhaps. If you ask qualified medical personnel, no. The pathology is quite different with pedophiles. Many studies have been made of this topic.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:44 pm |
  8. Answerman

    Again, ask just-about any African citizen what they would like to see...an African pope, or the greedy obese Americans stop rayping Africa.
    It's a no-brainer. America has become a nation of overly obese peoples claiming to be like Christ and in God's name sending-out troops to aquire even MORE of the earth's treasures to consume!
    @America! Go ahead and be obese! Go ahead and war on your enemies! Go ahead! But please stop doing so in the name of God. ty 🙂

    March 12, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • .

      Someone who lies as much as you have in your most recent posts is not a Christian but a troll. Cite your sources to backup your claim, but we all know you won't you post and run.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
    • The Devil

      Chad maybe a little pi-ssed off who knows

      March 12, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
    • Pete

      It's probably because Chad has been proven wrong most of the time and his ego can't handle it.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:12 pm |
    • henry

      I think he means repaying Africa.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
    • Saraswati

      You might want to check your demographics and health stats. South Africa has one of the highest rates of obesity and the US comes in behind several polynesian and middle eastern countries on most tables. Both China and South Africa are set to outpace these countries in only a very few years.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:33 pm |
  9. AB

    The world is ready for NO pope.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:55 am |
  10. Answerman

    I am writing about 4% of the world's population consuming 37% of everything the world produces. A nation of peoples deep in debt who form armies and send them out to aquire even more resources to consume...a nations who's nationwide obesity epidemic is spreading even to children and family pets...a nation where 88% claim to be "christian".
    Who would rather this nation continue on? God or no God, it's just not right that a peoples claiming belief in God should be allowed to continue rayping the earth and doing so in the name of God.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:49 am |
    • .

      LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • Answerspam

      Very great and awsome. You are a genious.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm |
  11. Heather

    This article is incorrect. There have been three prior African Popes:
    Pope St Victor, 13th Pope
    Pope St Miltiades, 32nd Pope
    Pope St Gelasius, 49th Pope

    March 12, 2013 at 11:48 am |
  12. Answerman

    It is a violation of God's law to show compassion for those he must execute. Those who are stubbornly obese and continue to consume more than their fair share MUST be put out of their own misery for there ever to be a good earth.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • nope

      So you're prejudice toward obese people huh? You do know that in some cases there are many medical reasons that contribute to someone being over weight right? Or do you just lump them all into one category?

      March 12, 2013 at 11:43 am |
    • sam

      You've already reached your troll quota for the day. Run along, crazycakes.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:50 am |
    • .

      Philip, you look deranged. Stop while you're ahead. You make no sense. Answerman is a misnomer; you should be calling yourself Crazyman.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:51 am |
  13. Answerman

    God's word also warns of the impending doom faced by the world's organized religions who preach children onto the battlefield of man to be offered-up to the false god of War.
    Governments will EXPOSE and DESTROY these organized religions who sleep with political leaders as a whhorre would. These protectors of openly gay boy raypers will be exposed and destroyed. Count on it.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:36 am |
    • Pete

      "These protectors of openly gay boy raypers will be exposed and destroyed."

      So you are so dumb you don't know the difference between a pedophile and a gay person. This just demonstrates why you are the laughing stock of this blog and have really bad reading skills. Now be a truthful, good xtian and pick up a dictionary.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • clarity

      "openly gay boy raypers "

      exactly who are you writing about here?

      March 12, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • nope

      "These protectors of openly gay boy raypers will be exposed and destroyed"

      So your God is going to destroy everyone because a small percentage of people have brought harm huh? That's just proof that your God is a monster and not loving at all.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • Truth Prevails :)

      Answerman: Keep drinking that magic kool-aid.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • .

      Answerman is also Douglas, of "gay coitus" fame. No, he doesn't know the difference between 'gay' and 'pedophile', even though he has been told many times. He remains willfully ignorant.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:56 am |
  14. Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease. Realistically, many abortions could be avoided if a morning-after pill were not viewed as such an evil option. Many of these same people bring children into the world at a high pace, and then would prefer that the rest of society take over and educate their children in their particular brand of religion when they don't plan well.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

    =================================================
    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

    ======

    March 12, 2013 at 11:31 am |
  15. Answerman

    No mere man could have possibly devised the perfect laws of Jesus Christ. Men are imperfect, and so are totally incapable of writing perfect laws that will bring humans back to perfection after all of God's enemies are destroyed and the earth belongs to those who love rather than those who hate.
    God's great war of Armageddon is coming, and it is a loving thing to warn others of.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:30 am |
    • Pete

      oh look another loonie Christians claiming the end of the earth. It might help if you stop watching so much TV.

      By the way it's a loving thing to tell someone that they are insane and need professional help.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:35 am |
    • Hubert

      While you may construe your warnings about mythical catastrophes as love, you cannot call your apparent glee at the idea of the death of billions anything resembling benevolence.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:37 am |
  16. clarity

    Answerman calls it a 'conspiracy theory'. What he is avoiding is that the notion of 'plagiarism in anticipation' is not something atheists came up with – it is something sever early Christian apologists came up with (including people like Justin Martyr). They blamed the devil for the anonymous gospel writings looking so much like earlier pagan writings. What an excuse! So the only thing they could say was 'the devil planted the fake (earlier) stories in front of the "real" (gospel) stories. Wow – plagiarism in reverse. Think about that one.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:28 am |
    • clarity

      typo correction: several early

      March 12, 2013 at 11:29 am |
  17. Answerman

    God has promised to "Bring to ruin those ruining this earth"! This earth is the property of God's true children and does not rightly belong to the obese warmongers who currently possess it.
    You WILL see Jesus christ and his army of angels DESTROY all of mankind's armies with your own eyes and in our times.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:26 am |
    • ..

      And another from the same author; see how very ill he is?

      11 Catholic archdiocese have filed for bankruptcy protection due to not being able to afford paying cash settlements to families of underaged males openly gay priests have stalked and and found to be rayping.
      Each archdiocese is individually incorporated, and so there are no legal means by which victimized families can sue the Vatican or leader of the pedophiles, the pope.
      ALL organized religions are currently being led by men such as the pope, who call themselves rather than the police when one of them is finally caught having se xual intercourse with underaged males. Even their obese wives (or in the case of openly gay priests, manfriends), act like Jerry Sandusky’s wife…as if they didn’t know.
      The outcries of rayped boys have reached the ears of the one true God. Each and every one of you boy humpers and your accomplices will recieve due recompense for what you have done and are doing, and long before the last day will you yourselves be destroyed just as you have destroyed.

      Diseased mind.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:29 am |
    • Science

      Did not the Ratzinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnger kick the angels off the team a few months ago ?

      Maybe this will stay ?

      Moderated post

      Hey bethany

      Gravity wins no god(s} required splat goes the fairy

      Curtains Down for the Black Hole Firewall Paradox: Making Gravity Safe for Einstein Again

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130306084151.htm

      March 12, 2013 at 6:26 am | Report abuse |

      Bye have a swell day

      March 12, 2013 at 11:30 am |
    • Pete

      "You WILL see Jesus christ and his army of angels DESTROY all of mankind's armies with your own eyes and in our times."

      The bible states that no one will ever know when it will happen, the fact that you are making such an outrageous claim shows you DON"T know your own bible.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • Truth Prevails :)

      The more I read from you Answerman, the more I have to wonder why you are not locked up in a padded room somewhere.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:48 am |
  18. Answerman

    Get a clue. Chrsitians are commanded NOT to tolerate breakers of Christ's laws which are GOOD. Had Christ commanded Christians to hang with breakers of his laws, that we would do rather than getting out from among them as commanded.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:22 am |
    • nope

      That's why most Christians including yourself break the laws every day.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:23 am |
    • ..

      Another gem from this same author.

      “All authority stands placed in it’s relative position by God” and “There is no authority except by God” is made clear in God’s word.
      Just as God loosed the mighty pagan Roman Empire on Jerusalem which along with the Jewish Temple was completely destroyed in the year 70 A.D., so will God loose today’s powerful governments on organized religions led by men rayping our boys. God’s will WILL be done on earth just as we pray for in our Lord’s prayer.
      You religious men who hump boys and your cohort wives and churchgoers…your days have been numbered with the number of a prison cell. (or, you may well be executed as well-known suspects as is becoming popular these days)

      March 12, 2013 at 11:26 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      How horrible your version of christianity must be...sad.

      You still haven't realized that you are following (or a poor attempt to) mens laws. Men wrote your rule book...ignorant, superst!tious men who believed in monsters, magic, spirits and gods.

      Grow up...join us in reality.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:26 am |
    • The Devil

      Wow really what the hell ........ breaking news not

      March 12, 2013 at 11:27 am |
    • Truth Prevails :)

      Answerman: You're bat shit crazy....people like you worry me....please tell me you don't have children, a wife or own weapons.

      March 12, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
  19. ..

    The reason why guns and bloody violence play a larger role in cases where people addicted to SSRI anti-depressants go on shooting rampages is due to SSRIs being designed to inhibit the REM sleep cycle and these addicts spend so many thousands of hours playing violent RPG video games that feature guns and so these are the thoughts pounded into the minds of addicts experiencing daytime induced walking nightmares.

    March 12, 2013 at 11:22 am |
  20. Answerman

    Nothing can stop the earth from naturally warming and becoming the Paradise God purposed for his children. "The meek SHALL inherit the earth." is a PROMISE from God!
    Mankinds puny pollution has only offered shade over water, which takes longer to evaporate in the shade. Evaporating water is the engine that drives the weather, NOT the climate. Once those who greedily consume the earths natural treasures and become obese from this overconsumption are destroyed, the earths weather will become mild just as only mild people will be left alive.
    Be warned! you greedy overweight consumers!

    March 12, 2013 at 11:19 am |
    • nope

      That's why you are probably an overweight person yourself, sitting on your azz typing behind a computer all day so you can post your garbage everyday on this site. You're a hypocrite, what an idiot.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:23 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Here comes the troll with an ironic name as he has no answers what so ever.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:23 am |
    • Hubert

      Whatever you are smoking, can I buy some from you?

      March 12, 2013 at 11:23 am |
    • .

      Hubert, same stuff as John of Patmos was when he supposedly wrote Revelation. Or an acid flashback. Either way.

      March 12, 2013 at 11:36 am |
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