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Melissa Rogers named to top White House religious outreach job
March 13th, 2013
01:30 PM ET

Melissa Rogers named to top White House religious outreach job

By Dan Merica and Adam Aigner-Treworgy, CNN

Washington (CNN) – The White House announced on Wednesday that President Barack Obama has named Melissa Rogers, a religious academic, to the highest religious outreach job in the White House.

Rogers, who worked with the Obama administration during the planning of his first inauguration in 2009, will become Director of the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, a job that includes working with outside religious groups and acting as the top White House official on religious issues.

The job was left vacant when Joshua DuBois stepped down in January after over four years in the position.

In a press release about Rogers, DuBois called her an "excellent and truly visionary choice to lead the White House faith-based office."

“There is no better person to lead the White House Office of Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, and bring the federal government into deeper, effective and constitutional partnership with faith-based and other nonprofit groups around the country,” DuBois wrote.

In an opinion editorial for the Belief Blog, DuBois wrote that the job allowed him to meet people "who care first about God, and second about their neighbors, and seek to live this care out into the world."

Rogers steps into a White House that is dealing with a number of faith issues primarily how to handle the policy of insisting health insurance plans provide contraceptive coverage over the objections of groups like the Catholic Church and Christian leaders. The issue persisted throughout Obama’s first term in office and will likely continue into his second.

In addition, different faith groups have been pushing the White House on issues of religious freedom, gun control and immigration.

Before coming to the White House, Rogers served as the director of the Center for Religion and Public Affairs at Wake Forest University Divinity School and a senior fellow at the Brooking Institute.

She is a lifelong Baptist and served as general counsel of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.

In addition serving as the head of faith-outreach at the White House, Rogers was also named a special assistant to the president.

Politico was the first to report Rogers appointment.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Baptist • Belief • Politics

soundoff (251 Responses)
  1. Answerman

    *correction.. Hitler was recruited as a spy by the German government after WWI.

    March 14, 2013 at 9:58 am |
    • Which God?

      Pretty dumb answer from answerman, who doesn't know fact from fiction.

      March 14, 2013 at 10:03 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Answerman was recruited by the christians by indoctrinating him as a child with well known brainwashing techniques.

      March 14, 2013 at 10:15 am |
  2. Thoth

    So who is the Atheist Outreach person being paid by the tax payers? Hey, you guys want to cut non-essential budget line items, why do we need a religious outreach person? Let the churches spend their own money lobbying (translation extorting) members of congress.

    March 14, 2013 at 9:55 am |
  3. Answerman

    Get a clue. Adolph Hitler was tricked into taking mind-altering drugs. As a spy for the German gov. after WWII, the men Hitler spied on were the men who formed the NAZI political party.
    Hitler suffered from depression just as all boys rayped by priests do. He was told by his doctor, the overly obese Dr. Theo Morell, that he needed "vitamin shots" for his depression related issues. Of course today we know those weren't vitamins. They were mind-altering anti-depressants developed by NAZI Bayer AG/IG Farben, and made readily available in the USA after WWII.

    March 14, 2013 at 9:54 am |
    • clarity

      Read more from the J Tarver-like character in his new book "The idiot who couldn't reply".

      March 14, 2013 at 10:02 am |
    • Which God?

      Another dumb answer by answerman. So, answerman, was there a shooter on the 'grassy knoll" as well? Imbecile.

      March 14, 2013 at 10:20 am |
  4. Answerman

    Sin is oftentimes confused with crime.
    Notice, Jesus forgave the sins of a man who was being executed alongside him. While forgiven of his sins, that man still paid for his crimes and was executed for them.
    "Whatever it is you are owing the courts, every last penny will be paid." -Jesus Christ "Be about settleing matters [with the court] quiclkly."

    March 14, 2013 at 9:47 am |
    • clarity

      It is confusing. Because with sin, some can run and hide their sins within their church and never face society at large for their harmful ways.

      March 14, 2013 at 9:59 am |
    • Lenn

      Both are Law, but where "Crimes" are offences against people that the same people democratically helped determine, "Sins" are supposedly offences against God, with only a few select humans acting as God's Supreme Court and prosecutors and with no democratic process to amend them. "Sin" is a concept linked to dictatorships, be they human run, or religious.

      March 14, 2013 at 10:14 am |
  5. Answerman

    @Topher. Exactly. The true meanings of many bible passages have been altered by those prophecied to do just that; alter the word of God. However, these are stupid men who alter God's word, and their childish attempts are obvious.
    For example, the apostle Paul isted 'pharmakeia' along with drunkenness as an "work of the flesh". His word, which means 'druggery', has been altered to make us think he meant practicing witchcraft or spiritism instead of taking mind-altering pharmaceuticals. Even a child can see Paul was speaking of pagan greek pharmaceuticals, not boiling frog and chicken foot. 🙂
    "Woe to any man who alters these words of God."

    March 14, 2013 at 9:40 am |
    • clarity

      "Woe to any man who alters these words of God."

      ("Because, as it is, we're still going to wind up with over 40,000 different interpretations of delusion.")

      March 14, 2013 at 9:45 am |
    • Lenn

      "Woe to any man who alters these words of God."
      That's from Revelation, right?

      I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. Rev. 22:18

      Since the author never knew that this book would be part of a Christian Bible, isn't this just a warning against messing with his book, Revelation?

      March 14, 2013 at 10:22 am |
  6. Over 40,000 denominations of insanity

    Some believe that celibacy is appropriate for certain people, or for certain positions. It's ridiculous. Celibacy is unnatural and will continue to cause problems for the religious institutions that employ it.

    Many of the people from these same institutions advocate against abortion, but don't understand the realistic benefit of the morning after pill or even basic contraception; their unrealistic wishful thinking is causing the death of many at the hands of disease. Realistically, many abortions could be avoided if a morning-after pill were not viewed as such an evil option. Many of these same people bring children into the world at a high pace, and then would prefer that the rest of society take over and educate their children in their particular brand of religion when they don't plan well.

    In the U.S. recently we learned of the head of LCMS chastising a minister of that church for participating in a joint service for the victims of the Newtown school shooting.

    One sect calls homosexuality an abomination while the next one in the same denomination is already performing gay marriage.

    One sect, the Westboro Baptist Church believes Americans are being killed at war because America is too kind to "fags".

    One sect believes that Jesus and Satan were brothers and that Christ will return to Jerusalem AND Jackson County, Missouri.

    One sect believes women to be subservient, while another sect in the same denomination promotes equality between the sexes.

    Conflicted right from the very beginning, Christianity continues to splinter and create divisions and more extremism as it goes.

    =================================================
    Has anything improved with Christianity since 200+ years ago?

    Thomas Jefferson, POTUS #3 (from Notes on the State of Virginia):

    Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

    James Madison, POTUS #4, chief architect of the U.S. Constitution & the Bill of Rights (from A Memorial and Remonstrance delivered to the Virginia General Assembly in 1785):

    During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.

    John Adams, POTUS #2 (in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 09/03/1816):

    I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved – the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced! With the rational respect that is due to it, knavish priests have added prostitutions of it, that fill or might fill the blackest and bloodiest pages of human history.

    Ben Franklin (from a letter to The London Packet, 3 June 1772):

    If we look back into history for the character of present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practised it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England, blamed persecution in the Roman church, but practised it against the Puritans: these found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here and in New England.

    Thomas Paine (from The Age of Reason):

    All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.
    ============================================================================

    March 14, 2013 at 9:33 am |
  7. Answerman

    Belief in Jesus does mot make one a christian. As mentioned above, even Satan and his demons believe, yet shudder. (are afraid of Jesus Christ who will one day execute them for disobeying God's laws)
    To be a christian, one must follow "The Way" of Jesus Christ, who was obedient to God. Those who are stubbornly disobedient are not christians.
    "If they truly loved me, they would obey my commands."- Jesus Christ

    March 14, 2013 at 9:31 am |
    • fintastic

      "belief in jesus" the supernatural being, make one delusional.

      March 14, 2013 at 11:17 am |
  8. Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things

    Prayer changes things

    March 14, 2013 at 8:36 am |
    • Jesus

      Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.

      An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.

      The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!

      March 14, 2013 at 8:36 am |
    • Really?

      "Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"

      That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie!

      March 14, 2013 at 8:37 am |
  9. NClaw441

    I am a Christian, and a conservative. But I am surprised that there is not more "separation of church and state" talk in this thread. I assume this woman makes a salary in her position and that salary is paid by the federal government. Under Supreme Court rulings it seems that this is an "entanglement" with religion that is forbidden. (I disagree with many of those Supreme Court opinions, as Congress has passed no law respecting an establishment of religion, which is what the 1st Amendment prohibits.) Where are the questions about this? Is it because Mr. Obama is a Democrat, or worse (as an excuse) because of his race?

    March 14, 2013 at 8:16 am |
  10. Read the Bible

    It's about God, the only God there is, the best there is.

    Anything else is a waste of what ever time you have left, because no other god exists.

    March 14, 2013 at 2:21 am |
    • Mass Debater

      So you are just one God away from being an atheist, good for you! Keep it up!

      March 14, 2013 at 2:36 am |
    • Read the Bible

      God is the beginning and the end over all eternity, so I can never be an atheist, and never know a deeper love.

      March 14, 2013 at 2:48 am |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      No, you THINK that there is a god that is all of that you just described. You dont KNOW for sure. You hope that what you have been told is true but you dont know. Try looking at life through the view of logic and reason and you will have more meaning in your life.

      March 14, 2013 at 8:26 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      @Honey Badger
      Forget trying to appeal to logic and reason with someone who has been poisoned by the magic koolaid.

      March 14, 2013 at 8:31 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      "God is the beginning and the end over all eternity"

      Yet another one of those meaningless statements. What exactly is this supposed to mean? The word eternity is used to describe something that is infinite. So how can it have a beginning or an end? This is just another example of how theists say things without considering what it implies. For example if you ask them who or what created their god they invariably come back with the pat answer that their god had no beginning and has always existed. So that means that an eternity of time passed before god decided to create the universe. Even the 13.7 billion years that have elapsed since the Big Bang is but a blink of the eye when compared to eternity. So if this perfect being who forever existed in a perfect state for so long why the sudden change of heart? Why create the universe at all?

      March 14, 2013 at 9:11 am |
    • Kenrick Benjamin

      AtheistSteve- It was a miss quote they meant well, it's not the beginning and the end but the first and last.

      March 14, 2013 at 10:00 am |
    • Which God?

      To which god are you referring? The muslims say," there is no god but Allah."
      BTW, who was gods' daddy and mother? Or is your god a hermaphodite?

      March 14, 2013 at 10:00 am |
    • fintastic

      @Read the Bible.............." ... is a waste of what ever time you have left, because no other god exists."

      Just leave out the "other" and you've got it right!

      March 14, 2013 at 11:21 am |
  11. Garcia

    Must read book, only .99 cents on kindle exposes the truth of Jesus from the Hebrew Scriptures. Trust me, it's worth the read.
    http://www.amazon .com/300-Times-examination-prophecies-ebook/dp/B00BDFMLAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363233322&sr=8-1&keywords=300+prophecies+of+jesus

    March 14, 2013 at 12:08 am |
  12. Ken Margo

    Unless she pray away the gop. Obama doesn't have a chance.

    March 13, 2013 at 6:20 pm |
    • Mass Debater

      Obama doesn't have a chance? Chance of what? Winning another election?

      March 14, 2013 at 2:39 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Ken
      You are correct in that there is absolutely no way that Obama will win a 3rd term.

      March 14, 2013 at 9:07 am |
  13. Chad is not just a pleasant little Sub-Saharan Country

    Couldn't we have someone, maybe a clinician or researcher, well-versed in mass-delusions and psychoses? Why doesn't Obama have the courage to help the poor people who are in the throes of religion?

    March 13, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
  14. Reality

    We need to stop spending our money on this stupidity.

    March 13, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      R'amen!

      March 13, 2013 at 3:18 pm |
  15. Honey Badger Dont Care

    A religious academic? So she studies works of fiction. Big whoop.

    March 13, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
    • End Religion

      It's like having an official WH job for someone whose life has been spent studying the works of Lemony Snicket.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • Akira

      Lemony Snicket? Oh, that's "A Series Of Unfortunate Events."

      March 13, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Hey! Don't go belittling religious academics.
      I'm very proud of the Sacred Theology Doctorate I received from the University of Baptist Scripture.
      Yes, I love my STD from B SU

      March 13, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Akira

      Topher, I'm not in any organized religion; I think that all organized religion is garbage.
      I was raised Catholic, yes.
      I was also baptised into the Baptist faith.
      So? It doesn't negate your assertion that Catholics aren't Christian. They are.
      However, you stance is precisely WHY I think organized religion is bunk: divisive and dismissive of other people's beliefs, even those of the same faith.
      And that, dear Topher, is bull.

      March 13, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
    • fintastic

      You tax dollars being wasted on mythology.... wonderful

      March 14, 2013 at 8:43 am |
  16. Topher

    So when do we learn her beliefs and stances on these subjects?

    March 13, 2013 at 2:17 pm |
    • Paul

      She is a Baptist, and they scare the crap out of me.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:18 pm |
    • Topher

      I'm a Baptist, too. But that doesn't mean much. Do you know how many people claim to be Christians, but don't hold to its beliefs? I'd like to hear some personal testimony from her so we know exactly where she stands.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:24 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      probably about 90%, Topher. most christians only know the parts of the bible read to them on sunday mornings.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • Topher

      Bootyfunk

      You might not be too far off, dude.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • Paul

      Well, you scare the crap out of me so my theory that all baptists are lunatics still holds true.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • lunchbreaker

      If I go into politics, I would definetly lie and say I am a Christian. Seems to be the best route.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • Topher

      Paul ... BOO!

      March 13, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • Paul

      Actually, I take that back it is really only Southern Baptists that are crazy.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • Topher

      Paul

      I'm not Southern Baptist, but what makes them more crazy than the rest of us?

      March 13, 2013 at 2:36 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Paul

      Have you ever seen a Pentecostal service? Pentecostals make even Southern Baptists seem almost normal.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:37 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Paul,
      "only Southern Baptists that are crazy."

      Heh. The infamous Westboro Baptist folks are in Kansas!

      March 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • Paul

      No, I haven't. Where I live there are a lot of Southern Baptists. Most of them come across and racists, gay hating, rednecks who think the Earth is 6,000 years old.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • Paul

      Westboro has just taken what Southern Baptists believe and acted upon it.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Paul

      It's generally the same with Pentecostals, but you get to add in the "speaking in tongues with the holy spirit in you". Check out youtube, and get ready to be overwhelmed by the crazy.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • Topher

      The Westboro folks are Baptist in name only.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • Paul

      Topher, they would say the same thing about you, and that my friend is why religion is useless.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • Topher

      True, they probably would. But I have God's Word to back up my doctrines.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • Paul

      I reckon the religions that have snake handling involved are pretty darn crazy too. I don't even want to be in the same room as a snake.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • Paul

      Topher, they could use the same bible you use to back up their beliefs.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • Topher

      Paul

      Not without twisting scripture, they can't.

      "Snakes! Why does it always have to be snakes?!"

      March 13, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Paul

      Topher, the fact is that the bible can be used to justify just about anything from stoning gay people to death to loving them. This makes it pretty useless. If it really was the inspired word of some god there would only be one interpretation.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • Topher

      Paul

      It CAN be used that way, but then you're using some faulty hermaneutics. The only way we should be interpreting the scriptures is to apply them the way the authors intended. It's when we start using verses out of context or when we don't like something we change it because "God didn't mean it that way."

      March 13, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Topher,

      Your big book of multiple guess can be used to justify ANYTHING. Just admit it. Your book is grossly flawed and meaningless.

      March 13, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care

      Like?

      March 13, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Paul

      Exactly! That's why I generally have more respect for Westboro than other christians. At least their consistent, don't hide what they think, and they have more biblical support than the liberal feel good denominations.

      March 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Like?

      March 13, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
    • Topher

      Nevermind

      March 13, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Good choice in dropping it. As an atheist I probably know more about your bible than you do.

      March 13, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • Paul

      Topher, since you weren't there when it was written you don't know how the authors intended they be interpreted, and therefore, anybody's interpretation is just as valid as yours or mine.

      March 13, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
    • Topher

      Honey Badger Dont Care

      "Good choice in dropping it. As an atheist I probably know more about your bible than you do."

      Yeah, I've heard that before. I really means nothing. So let's pick it up again.

      March 13, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      Practical definition of Hermaneutics:

      1. Excuses to change what the bible actually says to what the individual, or denomination, wants it to say.
      2. Bullshit.

      March 13, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • Topher

      Paul

      Is there a verse you're thinking of that is too va.gue to figure out what the authors intended?

      March 13, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
    • End Religion

      You want to know her beliefs only insomuch as you have a need to divide your watered down faith even more. You want to know if she's a "true" Christian? You better buckle down and start being less divisive – your religion is fading away like a fart in the wind.

      March 13, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
    • Topher

      What have I been devisive about?

      March 13, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
    • End Religion

      "What have I been devisive about?"

      When aren't you? You ask "what topic should we discuss today," not to bring people closer to Jesus or Christianity, but to steer them into your narrow personal idea of what is "right". Attempting to prove you're "right" over matters of faith is divisive. You don't have any answers. YOU are one aspect of why your club is failing.

      March 13, 2013 at 4:12 pm |
    • Akira

      Topher, an example of you being divisive is your stance on RC's praying to the BVM.
      That is divisive. That is pitting one denomination of Christianity against another.
      That is the definition of divisiveness.

      March 13, 2013 at 4:31 pm |
    • Topher

      Akira

      Well, then if telling someone they are wrong and going against what God has told us, then call me divisive.

      March 13, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • bobk52

      Doper U stated on these belief blogs that u broke all 10 commandments Who did u murder?

      March 13, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
    • Honey Badger Dont Care

      Who is "Doper"?

      March 13, 2013 at 4:42 pm |
    • Topher

      Pretty sure he means me.

      March 13, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • Akira

      Topher: and 1.2 billion disagree with your assessment; so...?
      That's neither here nor there; I find it vastly amusing that one denomination has the audacity to paint another the old "no true Scotsman' picture; it is absolutely laughable that they can hold themselves in such high esteem that they can state authoritatively that a whole faith has it wrong.
      Especially when one considers that it was the Council of Nicea that assembled the scriptures into one book that they can wield against them as a weapon.
      Lol. Such hubris.

      March 13, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Topher

      Akira

      "Topher: and 1.2 billion disagree with your assessment; so...?"

      That doesn't prove it true.

      "I find it vastly amusing that one denomination has the audacity to paint another the old "no true Scotsman' picture;"

      First, Catholics are not a denomination of Christianity. Second, I'm not sure what we've been saying is the Scotsman fallacy.
      " it is absolutely laughable that they can hold themselves in such high esteem that they can state authoritatively that a whole faith has it wrong."

      Ever heard of the Protestant Reformation? The Catholics went way away from scripture, so there was a huge split.

      "Especially when one considers that it was the Council of Nicea that assembled the scriptures into one book that they can wield against them as a weapon."

      What does Nicea have anything to do with whether the Catholics agree with scripture?

      March 13, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • Akira

      Topher, Catholicism is absolutely a denomination of Christianity, although detractors such as yourself will deny that.
      The Council of Nicea was made up of Catholics.
      Yes, I've heard of the Protestant reformation, which started as a protest against the Catholic Church; so?
      Are you going to suggest that Protestants, (and ITS many denominations) aren't Christians either?
      "Doesn't make it right". Neither does your stance.
      Like it or not, and put any spin on it that you'd like: Catholics are just as Christian as Baptists are. Your denying that isn't going to change that.
      The path still leads to God, and I should think you'd be down with that; why aren't you?

      March 13, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • Austin

      Hey are you on YouTube right now? Sing us a song! Pleeeease?

      March 13, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
    • Oldster

      Topher,

      I remember in the 1950s that Protestants called themselves Protestants (and were subdivided into Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, etc). Somewhere along the line they opted for the name "Christians" because they thought that the word "Protestant" was too negative. A while after that, the "born again" schtick started and the "evangelical" appellation.
      (yeah, yeah, I know that Bible stuff about being "born again" - but nobody called themselves that way back when)

      March 13, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
    • Akira

      Topher, are you saying Peter, the first Pope of Rome, one of the 12 Apostles, who WALKED with Jesus, isn't a Christian, and that he got it WRONG?? Okay.

      Austin: childish. Yeah, I'm on there. Look up the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.
      Not really. But your comment is juvenile. Have I said one thing about your dreams, or the billboards in your front yard? No. Would you like me to start?

      March 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      You rang?

      March 13, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
    • Topher

      Akira

      "Yes, I've heard of the Protestant reformation, which started as a protest against the Catholic Church; so?"

      It wasn't just a protest. They saw the Catholics were adding man-made doctrines and other things not found in the Bible. They said the Catholics were so wrong on this stuff they broke away. The Catholics were wrong.

      "Are you going to suggest that Protestants, (and ITS many denominations) aren't Christians either?"

      We'll have to discuss who we consider Protestants.

      "The path still leads to God, and I should think you'd be down with that; why aren't you?"

      Because their "path" to God isn't Biblical ... which means it doesn't get to God. For instance, one of the major Catholic doctrines the Protestants and Catholics split over is grace. Catholics say you can purchase your way to Heaven, you can do good works and try your best then Jesus makes up the difference so you can go there. Protestants say only God's grace will get you there. No works. It's trying to bribe God. The Bible says it's grace through faith ... "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." Ephesians 2:8-9

      March 13, 2013 at 6:22 pm |
    • Topher

      Akira

      "Topher, are you saying Peter, the first Pope of Rome, one of the 12 Apostles, who WALKED with Jesus, isn't a Christian, and that he got it WRONG?? Okay."

      First, Peter was never a Pope. The Catholics didn't exist yet. Yeah, I know, they trace some stuff back to him and have kind of made him the honorary first pope. But of course Peter was a Christian. Even if I would give you that the early church was Catholic, they were at least still holding to what Christ said and the Bible at that point.

      Are you Catholic?

      March 13, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • Yeah Right

      Topher gets to decide who the first pope was.

      March 13, 2013 at 6:27 pm |
    • Akira

      Topher, lol. Okay.
      Whatever.
      NOW you are asserting that Catholics do not believe in Jesus Christ, or His Divinity.
      If it pleases you to feel that they are not Christians, so be it; of course Christian is BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST, but sure, that's okay.
      I suppose that the words "Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world" spoken at every Mass is just...what? What, exactly? Not talking about Jesus?
      I don't care WHAT flavor your particular denomination is, and I don't care what your Preacher has told you to justify your divisiveness, but to deny that Catholics are Christian is just revisionist history. Period.

      March 13, 2013 at 6:34 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Topher
      "Well, then if telling someone they are wrong and going against what God has told us, then call me divisive."

      For the purposes of this reply I'll presume that your god exists – how do know what god has said any more than another sect knows? Originally you had the same texts which were then modified to suit each sect. Your version cannot be verified as being more valid than the catholics or any of the other protestants sects or even the mormons.

      March 13, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
    • Austin

      For all you doubters as to the authenticity of the ministry of the Holy spirit, the new testament if you read it straight through deals with false teaching, false doctrine a lot. Many non denominational churches, scrutinize a certain churches hyper adoration of Mary and calls it idolatrous worship. They question these rituals and believe this is a "works salvation" and a blow to authentic spirit filled faith, grace gospel. All the repeated prayers fifty times is also a topic mentioned in scripture.

      Other denominations that get the deity of Christ wrong, violate the gospel guideline of preaching Christ as God in the flesh. They get the created son, mixed up with the Creator human essence of God. This is another gospel flaw.

      According to scriptures, these gospel flaws are very serious errors!
      If you think Hitler was a Christian, you will never get this point.

      March 13, 2013 at 7:12 pm |
    • ..

      "Catholics say you can purchase your way to Heaven, you can do good works and try your best then Jesus makes up the difference so you can go there."

      Incorrect. This is rumor put out by those Protestants who wanted to justify their actions against the RCC by flat out lying about those reasons.

      Please address the Baptist belief that one may do anything they want on this earth and get into Heaven free by saying "Forgive Me, Jesus".
      Deeds count. Don't pretend otherwise. And He knows that. Keep trying to justify you relifious bigotry. He knows that, too

      March 13, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
    • Austin

      Who is sufficient? Who is the intercessor?

      March 13, 2013 at 7:50 pm |
    • fintastic

      @Topher................."....... But I have God's Word to back up my doctrines."

      More lies.............. you have ZERO evidence of "gods word"..... why are you dishonest?

      March 14, 2013 at 8:48 am |
    • Topher

      Akira

      "NOW you are asserting that Catholics do not believe in Jesus Christ, or His Divinity."

      No, I never said that. But belief alone won't help you. "You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!"

      "If it pleases you to feel that they are not Christians, so be it; of course Christian is BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST, but sure, that's okay."

      Nothing about that pleases me. Let me try to clarify my position. I'm not saying someone who claims to be Catholic cannot be saved. If they repent and trust (the Biblical standard) they can be saved like every else. But they are going to have to recognize and reject many Catholic teachings. Historically, Catholicism is outside Orthodoxy. Some of their teachings are heretical.

      "I suppose that the words "Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world" spoken at every Mass is just...what? What, exactly? Not talking about Jesus?"

      Yes, that would be Jesus. But understand, the Mormons and MANY other sects use Christ's name, too.

      March 14, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • Topher

      In Santa we trust

      Simple. We know what the Bible originally said because we have such early copies. So when different groups add things or change them to fit themselves, you should just reject them outright.

      March 14, 2013 at 9:22 am |
    • Topher

      ..

      "Incorrect. This is rumor put out by those Protestants who wanted to justify their actions against the RCC by flat out lying about those reasons."

      Oh, it's quite true. Google "indulgences." Or do the same for Catholic doctrines.

      "Please address the Baptist belief that one may do anything they want on this earth and get into Heaven free by saying "Forgive Me, Jesus"."

      This isn't a Baptist doctine or even a Christian/Biblical one. Just saying "forgive me" won't help you. What would happen if you were in court in front of a judge and you said, "Forgive me, Your Honor, for ra.ping that woman. Please let me go." If he's a good judge, he'd say, "You broke the law and you should be sorry. But because I'm just I must punish you." Justice must still be satisfied.

      "Deeds count. Don't pretend otherwise. And He knows that. Keep trying to justify you relifious bigotry. He knows that, too"

      Deeds only count if you are saved. Understand that God is Holy ... meaning perfect. So our works fall far short. If Hitler walked up to you and gave you the world's most beautiful bouquet of flowers, would you take them? Or would it disgust you because it came from Hitler? We are far below God and His standards. "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags (translated as dirty menstrual rags)." Our works show our faith, but it does nothing to save us.

      March 14, 2013 at 9:40 am |
    • fintastic

      @Topher................."....... But I have God's Word to back up my doctrines."

      More lies.............. you have ZERO evidence of "gods word"..... why are you dishonest?

      March 14, 2013 at 11:32 am |
  17. Odin

    I must speak to my followers about increasing their visibility at the White House. More mead and hammers for everyone!

    March 13, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
    • End Religion

      Now, there's a reasonable platform! Think of the bees we'll be putting to work.

      March 13, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
    • Akira

      Mead sounds good about now.

      March 13, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
    • Austin

      Akira, I was teasing you but not really. I compose music l and really like choir music. Its a hobby.

      March 13, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
  18. Reasonably

    "Rogers steps into a White House that is dealing with a number of faith issues primarily how to handle the policy of insisting health insurance plans provide contraceptive coverage over the objections of groups like the Catholic Church and Christian leaders. The issue persisted throughout Obama’s first term in office and will likely continue into his second."

    How about telling them to bugger off and keep themselves out of politics? They get tax exempt status – that's all they should get and have a nice day.

    March 13, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
  19. Reasonably

    How about Top Person to keep separate church and state?

    March 13, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      I really don't think we have a serious problem with that with the Obama administration.

      The "Faith-based and Neighbourhood Partnerships", and the "National Prayer Breakfast" are perfect foils for the religiocentric crowd who then cannot accuse the President of not having a focus on faith outreach (like that's a bad thing).

      March 13, 2013 at 6:51 pm |
  20. ROM

    This is great. Ten commandments should not be publicly displayed.

    March 13, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
    • Latent

      What is good about not displaying the Ten Commandments? In fact, it only encourages sinfulness .

      March 14, 2013 at 7:17 pm |
    • Latent

      How good is the religious outreach if the person selected for the outreach does not believe in public display of religion?

      March 14, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
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