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March 14th, 2013
02:20 PM ET
On first day, new pope urges courage 'to build the church with the blood of Christ'Vatican City (CNN) - Pope Francis on Thursday emphasized church advancement in his first Mass with the cardinals who elected him as pontiff a day earlier. With solemnity, he delivered a homily about moving the Catholic Church forward to the cardinal electors, who were dressed in light yellow robes. Altar servers burned incense in the Sistine Chapel, the setting for the Mass. He didn't appear to use a script and kept the sermon short, calling on the cardinals to have courage. "When we don't walk, we are stuck. When we don't build on the rock, what happens? It's what happens to children when they build a sand castle and it all then falls down," the new pontiff said. FULL STORY |
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WHICH CHURCH?
Jesus said I will build My church. Which church was that? Matthew 16:15-19...."But who do you say I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.".....18 I also say to you that are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven......(THE KEYS WERE USED IN ACTS CHAPTER 2)
Did Jesus say I will build the Methodist Church, the Catholic Church, the Baptist Church, or any of the other 30,000 denominations?
JESUS SAID I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH!
HEAD OF THE CHURCH: Ephesians 5:23...as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
The apostle Paul did not say, select a man on earth, or a national board and then appoint him or them as head of the church? Paul said Jesus was the head of the church.
JESUS IS AND WILL BE, UNTIL HE RETURNS, THE HEAD OF HIS CHURCH.
When the apostle Paul sent greetings to the Christians in Rome, he said; (Romans 16:16 ....All the churches of Christ send greeting.) Paul did not send greetings from the churches of Roman Catholics, nor from any other denomination. Paul was a member of the Lord's church, not some denomination.
Acts Chapter 2: The same Peter, who Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom of heaven told them how to become member of the kingdom of heaven here on earth, (the kingdom of heaven on earth is the church of Christ, the Lord's church, the body of Christ)? Peter preach Jesus to them and when they believed, he told them to repent and be baptized so their sins could be forgiven, and they received the gift of the Holy Spirit and were added to the Lord's church.
Acts 2:40-41....."Be saved from this perverse generation!" 41 So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls.
They were added to the church only after they believed Peter's preaching and were immersed in water.
The Lord added the saved to His church. The Lord did not add them to the Roman Catholic Church, the Lutheran church, the Baptist Church, nor any of the other 30,000 denomination that exist today. (Acts 2:47... And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.)
CAN JOINING A DENOMINATION SAVE ANYONE?
Did the apostle Peter consult a man-made catechism, a creed book, or a denominational statement of faith before he preached on the Day of Pentecost?
Revelation 20:15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Having you name written in the role book of one of the 30,000 denominations cannot keep you from being thrown into the lake of fire.
When Jesus returns He is coming for His church. Is your name written in the Lamb's book of life. (Revelation 21:1-27......27 but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Which church did Jesus die for? JESUS DIED FOR HIS CHURCH!
( All Scripture quotes from: NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE)
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Funny, during the Dirty War, he said they should build the church on the blood of the disappeared.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcyW7rMYR7A
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but Papi where are you planning to build new churches? I am specialized in building churches with blood, all types of blood.
They aren't planning to build, just rent a table or 2 at each McDonald's for prayer breakfasts.
I wonder if the official Vatican metaphor checker had a hangover when he let the pope talk about blood as a building material.
If you study Christianity from the origin and you will find that it has been transformed to what it is now from what Jesus taught to his ppl or to the children of Israel...
Christ was killed and his blood sacrifice of his own life is the church. Believe in that and give thanks for it because in the days to come it is our only salvation
Christianity presents itself yet again as just another blood cult.
The blood represents the sacrifice for sins showing the serious nature of mankind's rebellion from God and the proof of God's love for us. The empty tomb makes available the resurrection life given to the repentant faithful, restoring life to the spiritually dead race of mankind. The world's alternative is to continue on as goats following the likes of Republican and Democrat bureaucrats...good luck with that.
@popWeasel: "The blood represents the sacrifice for sins showing the serious nature of mankind's rebellion from God and the proof of God's love for us."
That you find blood and human sacrifice virtuous says a lot about your sickness. Your god does not exist, and as he is described in the bible, falls very short from love. He and his religion are immoral, and the world will be a better place once it sheds religion.
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"The empty tomb makes available the resurrection life...blah blah, bullshît bulshît."
The empty tomb is proof of absolutely nothing. Do empty cans in a landfill prove Spam was sacrificed for your sins? There is more proof that the empty colander in my kitchen is testament to the Risen Spaghetti Monster then the tomb is of your immoral, impotent godling.
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"The world's alternative is to continue on as goats following the likes of Republican and Democrat bureaucrats...good luck with that."
Not goats, you dimwit, rats. Morganucodon "Morgie" is an early mammalian genus that lived during the Late Triassic. It is our ancestor, a survivor of the meteor strike which decimated the dinosaurs and allowed us to take over the planet. Thanks, Morgie!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganucodon
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/New_Hall_on_the_Mall.html
Jesus sacrificed himself for you so every time you want to make fun of himjust remember what he did for you.
God bless
eggtrust
Jesus may have dies for you, but not me. First off, if you believe the story, you are not using your reasoning ability.
Second, I would not allow someone else to step in like this, and you are immoral if you would allow it.
Blood of Christ, Yap, tradition of hindu Mithra sim, racist savior ism of hindu dark ages, Kill Mithra, THE BULL, EAT HIS FLESH AND DRINK HIS BLOOD, Hindu Catholic ism, filthy compounding of hinduism pagan ism of hindu dark ages and hindu corrupted teachings of Israelite, holy hindu secular ism, crooked donkey ism called Christianity to hind fool humanity in to hindu gentile ism, filthy slavery by hindu Jews, filthy secular s, donkeys by faith.
stop wasting your time, biased muslim views on other religions are irrelevant. Go to sleep, permanent is preferred.
There are some great videos of Muslims accidentally blowing themselves up as they try to blow up other people. There is a hilarious one of a guy who says "Allahu akhbar" then fires his RPG, but oopsie daisy the back was against a wall and the backblast instantly shredded him. There's another of a guy firing mortars, yeah, saying "Allahu akhbar" with every shot, and BLAMMO! Shouldn't have put that mortar in nose down.
Allah isn't much on technical competence.
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XXhfs4W8Qs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XXhfs4W8Qs
Will Jorge Bergoglio continue to advance the General/Universal church of the ancient Roman empire on the sand declaring that it is right (a human right of equality) to be free to worship any god, any religion?
Will he support the "light of freedom" and the "mark of liberty" that the leader of the free world is placing as the "god of fortesses" above the One True Way of Christ and of the One and Only Creator?
The Apostle Peter warned against those "promising freedom".
The return of Christ as the One and Only Ruler is at hand, and Only God's Will will be done (and not man's will).
When you have outbursts of psychosis like that, John, you are supposed to up your dose of thorazine.
A church made of blood. Disgusting. And brings up visions of satanic worship.
What's wrong with the church that already has 7.6 billion in assets in property alone?
What a great day. Thank you God!
Yes, all hail Mithra!
Muffy, God of Oral Pleasure indeed made this day great!
🙂
Kee, at least you have a sense of humor. That's needed on these blogs...
Part of the flawed underbelly of Christianity that even a pope named Francis or a cardinal named Dolan will not be able to cure:
(only for the new members of this blog as current members know the flaws already):
Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/
From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15: 14, Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."
Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.
To wit;
From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:
"Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.
"
"In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM
The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.
With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:
An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
p.4
"Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."
p.168. by Ted Peters:
Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "
So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.
He lives. Amen.
Actually, Jesus is dead and has been dead since his crucifixion:
Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/
From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15: 14, Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."
Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.
To wit;
From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:
"Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.
Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.
Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.
The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.
Only Luke records it. (Luke mentions it in his gospel and Acts, i.e. a single attestation and therefore historically untenable). The Ascension ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers.
The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "
"In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM
The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.
With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:
An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
p.4
"Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."
p.168. by Ted Peters:
Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "
So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.
I urge you to build the church that's already built on the donations of cash, uh, wait, the turning a blind eye to our crimes, uh, the, uh, blood, uh, . . . oh damn, I'm going to use the script next time.
"When we don't build on the rock, what happens? It's what happens to children when they build a sand castle and it all then falls down ... and to build the church with the blood of Christ," the pope continued. "Only this way will the church move forward."
Bit of a mixed metaphor there. Which is the better building material, blood or rock?
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Prayer changes things
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
"Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"
That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie!
"Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things" is false
To a liar all life is a lie to all thief all life steals to an atheist all life is to be destroyed. Not a good idea of health and happiness by the standards of normal people. I guess it helps when you compile your own data.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited."
-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922
"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery
– Hitler (sounds like something 'endreligion' would post.
"Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things" is false
and as always snopes is wrong
"honest snopes" is a fake
It will at any rate be my supreme task to see to it that in the newly awakened NSDAP, the adherents of both Confessions can live peacefully together side by side in order that they may take their stand in the common fight against the power which is the mortal foe of any true Christianity.
-Adolf Hitler
We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls.... We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian.
-Adolf Hitler
We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.
-Adolf Hitler
I-slam islam. Go pound sand, youfukking moron.
Hindu Pope, liar, denier of truth absolute Tin Allah, Islam is the foundation of Catho lic ism, and hindu churches are built on blood of Moahmmad, not goon man GAWD Jesus
Shut up, you freak!
"Islam is the foundation of Catho lic ism"
LOL.