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March 18th, 2013
01:59 PM ET

Producer: Claim of Obama-Satan likeness nonsense

By Dan Merica, CNN
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Washington (CNN) – The third episode of the History Channel's miniseries “The Bible” was supposed to be remembered for the brutality of Babylonian ruler Nebuchadnezzar, the strength of Daniel in the lion’s den, and the birth of Jesus Christ.

But after viewers claimed there was a striking resemblance between Satan’s human form and President Barack Obama, that probably won't be the case.

Buzz on Twitter quickly grew. According to Topsy.com on Monday, there were an estimated 20,000 tweets containing the words “Obama” and “Satan” since the 9:00 p.m. ET hour on Sunday, the hour in which Satan appears in the two-hour show.

In a statement, miniseries producer Mark Burnett called claims there was a resemblance "utter nonsense."

Burnett said the actor who played Satan, Mohamen Mehdi Ouazanni, "is a highly acclaimed Moroccan actor. He has previously played parts in several Biblical epics - including Satanic characters long before Barack Obama was elected as our President."

Ouazanni has had roles in two biblical TV movies - "Jeremiah" and "The Ten Commandments."

Executive producer of the miniseries Roma Downey, Burnett's wife, added, "Both Mark and I have nothing but respect and love our President, who is a fellow Christian. False statements such as these are just designed as a foolish distraction to try and discredit the beauty of the story of The Bible."

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Satan appears during the miniseries’ retelling of the Temptation of Christ, when Jesus fasted for 40 days in the Judean Desert. Satan tests Jesus’ faith, asking him to make bread out of stone and jump from a cliff, but he refuses each temptation and returns to the Sea of Galilee to begin his ministry.

In the desert, Satan is draped in a long, black, hooded robe and with a slight silver tint to his face.

Both Downey and Burnett supported Obama's first campaign for president in 2008, according to Federal Election Commission reports. Downey gave $5,000 to the Obama Victory Fund and $2,700 to the Democratic National Committee in 2008. Burnett also donated to Obama's first campaign - $2,300 in 2007.

Neither gave money to Obama's 2012 campaign.

While the show was airing, tweets poured in noting the resemblance.

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Not everyone on Twitter agreed, though.

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After three episodes, the show has scored strong ratings. Its first episode drew 13.1 million viewers, ratings that trumped CBS’s “60 Minutes” and AMC’s “The Walking Dead.” The second episode drew 10.8 million viewers.

Ratings for the third installment in the five-week miniseries have not been released.

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The project has been a three-and-a-half year process for The History Channel and for Burnett and Downey. Burnett - who is better known as a king of reality television, with “Survivor,” “The Voice” and “The Apprentice” all under his name - told CNN earlier this month that this project was “personal.”

“It was time for an updating, adding fresh visual life to a sacred text,” Burnett said.

Both Downey and Burnett were raised Catholic, Burnett in England and Downey in Ireland. They still regularly attend Mass in Los Angeles. Growing up, both watched the classic biblical films that the Hollywood of yesteryear churned out, like “The Ten Commandments” and “The Greatest Story Ever Told.”

To film their Bible series, the duo set off for the southern tip of Morocco with a crew of around 400 people.
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Burnett and Downey consulted a wide range of pastors and academics, including a major evangelical leader and a Catholic cardinal.

Their advisory panel consisted of many people from varied backgrounds familiar with sharing the stories of the Bible, rather than a who’s who of biblical academics.

Joel Osteen, a popular television preacher and pastor of the 30,000-member Lakewood church in Houston, was among those consulted. Osteen and Burnett are friends and were developing a television series together that went on the back burner during the production of this series. Osteen even took his family to Morocco during some of the filming.

While the History Channel owns the exclusive North American rights to the project, Burnett and Downey own the rights to global distribution and theatrical airings, which are in the works. The project also has a book tie-in, games and apps.

- CNN’s Eric Marrapodi and Eric Weisbrod contributed to this report.

- Dan Merica

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  1. Rationality - coming to a roadside near you soon!

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/31/calif-atheists-take-a-swipe-at-the-religious-with-this-new-anti-god-billboard/

    March 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • Zippy

      Based on my experience, it will get heavily and repeatedly vandalized, which never happens to the thousands of religious signs and billboards. Because Christians are morally superior and all that.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
  2. Recliner

    I started reading a huge book on cell biology (a cell biologist recommended it to me saying that it was like the “Bible” of cell biology). I found it humorous how often the authors had to admit that they had no clue how or why so many of the cell’s basic functions actually work.

    Science has taken enormous strides since Darwin, but it seems like the more we learn, the farther we are from having a solution—at least from having an atheist solution. But atheists have enormous faith that we will some day find out–even though the more we learn, the farther away we seem to be from finding a solution.

    If there is one person in the world who should have an answer to this question, it might have been Francis Crick, an atheist and Nobel Prize winning geneticist. His solution: Panspermia, i.e. life originated somewhere else in the universe and was deposited as spores here on earth!

    Why would a Nobel Prize winning geneticist–someone who knew more about the basis "stuff" of life than just about anyone else on the planet–propose such a far-out theory?

    Could it be because he knew that there was no possible scenario in which life could have developed on earth all by itself so he had to move the problem to another place in space where the conditions for life to have developed must have been different (and where it can't be studied)? Let’s be honest. This is not science. It is faith.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • Akira

      Science doesn't have all the answers...YET.
      If you choose to believe in God, fine. Many choose not to. So?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:37 pm |
    • Recliner

      peace to you

      March 18, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
    • Bender Bending Rodiguez

      I don’t think science conflicts with faith. One should have no issue believing in stuff like the big bang theory, evolution, etc and have a belief in God.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • Recliner

      I have no problem in looking into those theories (and they are just theories). In a few hundred years are scientific facts and understandings will look as ridiculous as when science proved the earth is flat.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Define the word "theory" as it applies to evolution, Recliner.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • Recliner

      It sure does appear that life has evolved. But we have so many missing links...

      March 18, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
    • Bender Bending Rodiguez

      We found a lot of missing links that there is no real alternative beyond evolution.

      How can someone look at the fossils for tiktaaliks and not be convinced in evolution?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Recliner,
      Scientific theories are more rigorous than the way you use the term. Science has advanced a lot over the last few hundred years especially with the computational power of modern computers and advanced technology; science adjusts as it discovers more. Compare that to the static imaginings of stone age goatherders in their attempts to explain their world.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
    • Recliner

      -->In Santa we trust
      We've just barely scratched the surface, though. Overall, human condition has not improved with our scientific advances. It seems to have gotten worst.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
    • Bender Bending Rodiguez

      Evolution gave us flu shots and treatment for AIDS patients. How is that not an improvement?

      March 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
    • Recliner

      I'm not anti-evolution. We just don't know that much about it, really.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • .

      "I'm not anti-evolution. We just don't know that much about it, really."

      You mean you don't.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
    • Recliner

      Do you believe in the ape to man evolution chart? We don't have the missing links... but we have a nice drawing. Ta-Da!

      March 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
    • .

      You just proved you don't know.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
    • Recliner

      I do know evolution exists in many forms... but we don't know how humans have evolved... there are some major missing links. It takes a lot of faith to accept that we evolved from monkeys.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
    • The real Tom

      When you say things like that, you just look ignorant.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:28 pm |
    • WhatsamattaU

      Recliner, my good man. You accept as true something that is so obviously false and illogical, that being that the more we learn, the less we know. What is true is that in some cases, the more we learn, the more we learn that there's more to it than we originally thought. It goes without saying that the more we learn, the higher the amount of knowledge we have. This is very much different than your supposition. You have either misrepresented your cell biologists remarks so that they fit into the comfort of your point of view, your friend cannot properly express himself, or he/she is a rather poor scientist. You seem to argue in favor of giving up on the search for how things work, a rather convenient argument in light of the falling one by one of religious myths and outright falsehoods concerning the workings of the universe.

      March 18, 2013 at 7:09 pm |
    • somescientist

      So your problem with cell biology is we don't know how everything in the cell works? Boy I guess all the noble laureates who won prizes illuminating basic cell functions should just give back their prizes! You would not make a good scientist my friend. A theory is simply an explanation to a phenomenon that has been proven over and over again and accepted among the community. That is the power of science, no-one claims to hold the truth! But we can test hypothesis and theories our selves and see for our selves if they hold true.

      March 18, 2013 at 10:15 pm |
  3. Pouldou

    Satan being a mythical character makes it all irrelevant.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • Bender Bending Rodiguez

      How do you know for sure?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
  4. Cambob

    Wait... Wasn't Jar Jar Binks supposed to be Satan?

    March 18, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
  5. Recliner

    The Bible says that without faith it is impossible to please God. God often provides evidence or traces of his existence but for whatever reason, he never “proves” his existence. There is always a leap of faith. But it is no more of a leap of faith than believing that the universe exploded into existence all by itself.

    It is quite illogical for anything to exist at all, in other words, it is illogical to think that something just popped out of nothing—but the universe exists!

    That doesn’t prove that God, or the gods, created it, of course (after all, where did God come from)? But the idea that that the universe just sprang into existence by all by itself is so illogical that it ought to alert us to the fact that there just might possibly be more to this universe than materialism, or atheism would suggest.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • Recliner

      And belief in God takes much less faith than believing that micro-organism more complicated than modern laptop computers—developed and evolved all by themselves!

      Atheists have an enormous amount of faith in the power of science to prove there is no God. There is no doubt that science has done some remarkable things, but we’ve come a long way from the time when Darwin might have imagined “the simple cell” filled with some kind of simple protoplasm.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Another day, another nutter. If you feel that everything must have a creator, what created your god? If a god can be eternal, why can't a universe?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
    • Recliner

      God exists outside our limited understanding. This universe was made for man – thus there is birth and death – and nothing comes from nothing.

      But God dwells in eternity – outside of this world he created for us.

      Our minds can't comprehend eternity. So we deny it and act like spoiled brats.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
    • .

      "This universe was made for man – thus there is birth and death – and nothing comes from nothing. "

      That includes your god dummy.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm |
    • Damocles

      Oh geez.... my deity exists outside of human capability to understand it, yet I and I alone understand it. If only you would actually look at what you are saying.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
    • Recliner

      I didn't say that only I can understand it.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • G to the T

      That's an awful lot of universe created just to accommodate us. Especially when you considered 99.99999999999% is hostile to our existence. But yeah – it was obviously created for the sole purpose of us to live in...

      March 18, 2013 at 3:36 pm |
    • Adam

      Darwinists are out in full force today. The theory of evolution is about as important as the shape of my scrotum.

      March 18, 2013 at 8:11 pm |
  6. Fubarack

    Obama was busy, so they had to use the second most evil thing in the movie, the devil. The Chupacabra was the next choice, if the devil was not available.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
  7. Bob

    Yeah! ... um.... they are both black... Burnett is right – "utter nonsense", just like the bible

    March 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
  8. Bev

    Yes, I thought it did look a lot like President Obama. I did also notice that everyone spoke with a British accent back in 'tha' day,' Go figure!

    March 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
  9. Gimcy

    It's the eyes and the scowl.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
  10. Recliner

    The fact is that Atheists are committed as a matter of faith, to the proposition that God does not exist and no amount of evidence will be allowed to stand against their faith.

    It was the same way in Jesus’ day. Jesus enemies said his “miracles” were done by the power of Satan or through sorcery (we have no record of anyone denying that he did such amazing works). Others thought he did such things by the power of God, saying, “no one has ever done stuff like this before!”

    According to Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, the letters of Peter, an editor of Josephus, the writer of Hebrews, Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Polycarp, Irenaeus and other ancient writers, Jesus did come back from the dead! In fact, early Christians were so convinced of this fact they were willing to suffer torture and death. But atheists won’t believe unless they see an amputated limb restored!

    March 18, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • Ron

      " Jesus did come back from the dead! I"

      Life events shared by Jesus and another god-man:

      There are numerous god-men in the ancient Mediterranean area and Middle East. There are many stories that appear both in Jesus' biography and in the legends of another god-man:

      – Mother's pregnancy: It was a common belief among early Christians that Mary was pregnant for only seven months. This legend is preserved in the Gospel of the Hebrews. Although this gospel was widely used by early Christians, it was never accepted into the official canon. Semele, mother of Dionysus, was also believed to have had a 7 month pregnancy.

      – Virgin birth: Author William Harwood has written that Jesus' "equation in Greek eyes with the resurrected savior-god Dionysos led an interpolator to insert a virgin-birth myth into the gospel now known as Matthew." 1

      – Birth Witnesses:

      – The gospel of Matthew records that Jesus was visited by an unknown number of wise men, called Magi.

      – Authors Freke & Gandy identify them as followers of the god man Mithras from Persia. 4

      – Most other sources believe that they were Zoroastrian priests from Persia who were experts in astrology. There is a Zoroastrian belief "that a son of Zoroaster will be born many years after his death by a virgin...This son will apparantly [sic] raise the dead and crush the forces of evil. Later Christians got rather excited about this apparant [sic] pagan prophecy of the coming of the Messiah..." 2

      – The gospel of Luke records that Jesus was visited by three shepherds. Mithra the god man from Persia was also visited shortly after birth by three shepherds.

      – The magi brought gold, frankincense and myrrh. A Pagan belief from the 6th century BCE states that these are the precise materials to use when worshiping God.

      – Healing: Jesus is recorded throughout the gospels as healing the sick and restoring the dead to life. So was Asclepius, a Greek god man. Pagans and early Christians debated who was the more effective healer.

      – Ministry: Jesus appeared as a wandering holy man who is later transfigured in the presence of some of his disciples. Dionysus was portrayed in the same manner in Euripides' play The Bacchae, written in 410 BCE.

      – Miracles:

      – Both Jesus and Empedocles were recorded as teaching spiritual truths, curing illness, foretelling the future, controlling the wind and rain, and raising people from the dead.

      – Both Mithra and Jesus performed many healings of the sick and mentally ill; both raised the dead. 3

      – Mark, chapter 5 describes Jesus driving demons from a man into a herd of about 2,000 pigs who rushed over a cliff and drowned. In Eleusis, about 2,000 initiates would bathe in the sea. Each had a young pig to which the believers' sins would be transferred. The pigs were then chased over a chasm and killed.

      – Fishing: John 21:11 records that Jesus performed a miracle which enabled Simon Peter to catch exactly 153 fish. The Pagan Pythagoras considered 153 a sacred number. The ratio of 153 to 265 was referred to by the Pagan Archimedes as "the measure of the fish." That ratio is used to generate a fish-like shape using two circles. The sign of the fish was used by the early Christians as their main symbol.

      – Arrest:

      – Both Dionysus and Jesus celebrated a Last Supper with his 12 disciples before his death.

      – Dionysus is described in Euripides' play The Bacchae as bringing a new religion to the people, being plotted against by the leaders, being arrested and appearing before the political ruler. Dionysus said to his captors "You know not what you are doing..," almost replicating Jesus' words at the cross. He was unjustly accused and executed. All of these themes are seen in the Gospels.

      – Crucifixion & resurrection:

      – Jesus' body was wrapped in linen and anointed with myrrh and aloe. Osiris was also said to have been wrapped in linen and anointed with myrrh.

      Again, the god men myths had been circulating well before Jesus birth. The Christians would have copied earlier Pagan material, not vice-versa.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:32 pm |
    • Recliner

      ->Ron? Can you post a source? And not please not from some loonie atheist website that the fools on here read and believe.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:35 pm |
    • Recliner

      Ron! Help. I can't find anything you talk about on this page:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysus

      Virgin birth? Are you making that up? Or reading loonie atheist web sites?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      You're the one claiming a god; the burden of proof is on you. Atheists just say there is no evidence of a god. Show us the money!

      March 18, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
    • Recliner

      Absolute proof for the existence of non-existence of God does not exist. Now what? You are the one reading the CNN Religion Blog message board, what are you looking for?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • Recliner

      What do you have faith in? Science? Science is the study of God's creation. It is great and amazing stuff. It all points to a power greater than man!

      March 18, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • The real Tom

      "Points to" it? How?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Some proof of what the bible claims as the creation stories would be a good start. It might help to understand why you believe the superstitions of stone age goatherders over modern science. You must believe in some science – you're using a computing device of some kind; why not all science?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • midwest rail

      " You are the one reading the CNN Religion Blog message board, what are you looking for? "
      Please show where this is called a "Religion Blog".

      March 18, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • Recliner

      --> 'points to it? how?"

      What designed it?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      That's the whole point. You claim it is all god's creation but have no evidence that there is a god and no evidence that it is your god (as the majority of the planet do not share your religion). So you have no evidence to support your claim.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Recliner

      @ midwest

      "The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Eric Marrapodi with daily contributions from CNN's worldwide newsgathering team and frequent posts from religion scholar and author Stephen Prothero."

      Why don't you go to a science blog? Or secular humanist blog? Why do you spend all day here? Does it make you feel superior to insult religious people? Because you know they can't prove God to you?

      Why would you waste your time?

      Unless you are looking for something (GOD).

      Want to find him? Get on your knees and confess your flaws. Ask him for help.

      It works.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Recliner

      @ In Santa we trust

      Yet, you keep coming back. And you keep looking.

      Good luck on your search. God is with you.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • midwest rail

      Nice deflection. I expected nothing less.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Recliner: Belief does not equal christian belief only, it encompasses all beliefs. I get that it is hard for you to accept that others don't agree with you but you live in a Secular country in the 21st century...it is time you learned to deal with this and catch up with the times.
      If you don't like reading about opposing view points, why are you not on FOX news website or a christian website?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • .

      "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysus"

      That's your problem idiot.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:57 pm |
    • Recliner

      @Truth

      I know that belief does not equal Christian belief only. I don't a huge problem accepting that today. I do like reading opposing view points, what I don't like is rude and small minded people that claim they are superior to me because they have rejected God, and that I must be delusional and stupid to have faith in something other than man.

      Fox News blows.

      Thanks for stereotyping me into your limited understanding of what a Christian is. I'm not that easy to pin point, sorry dude.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
    • Recliner

      --–>"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysus"

      ->That's your problem idiot.

      But where is Ron's source? I can only find loonie atheist sites that uphold his claims.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:00 pm |
    • The real Tom

      "What designed it?"

      Why do you assume it was "designed" at all?

      If it had been designed by an omniscient, omnipotent being, then evolution wouldn't have been needed.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • Recliner

      -> If it had been designed by an omniscient, omnipotent being, then evolution wouldn't have been needed.

      Hu? An all-powerful God wouldn't create complex things from simpler things? Why not?

      And why can't an all-powerful God create a universe where he limits his powers? For the good of his creation?

      March 18, 2013 at 3:04 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Oh, so now you're trying to say that your god designed it all imperfectly so that life forms would have to adapt?

      You can believe what you want, honey, but your reasoning is hardly convincing.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Recliner: Pot meet kettle! My limited understanding is not what you would think. I too was a believer at one point and by chance realized how unnecessary it is in the world in which we live. You also seem to have a limited understanding of what we think and believe.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
    • Damocles

      What in the blue hell?? So now we have an all powerful deity who limits his powers for the good of his creation and is obviously not perfect as testified to the fact that it can't create things in one swipe, it has to do it in stages.

      As always, amused to no end that it's the believers that want to put limits on their deity.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
    • Recliner

      I'm just posing some theories.... I don't have all the answers. You seem troubled about your lack of faith in God, so I am trying to help.

      Good luck on your search for God. There are a lot of good people out there that can help you. Ask God, he will always answer.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:24 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Those aren't "theories."

      March 18, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
  11. Stockton Joe

    I don't really see the resemblance – especially in the close-up. But then, I'm not looking for it. If you WANT to see it (whether because you agree or because you're looking for the slight or insult), then you'll see it. If you're NOT looking for it, you won't see it and you won't understand what all the flip and flap and flutter of wings is about.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
  12. Bender Bending Rodiguez

    I like President Obama but not satan.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
  13. Recliner

    And when God doesn’t jump through their hoops like some kind of trained dog, atheists can then puff out their arrogant little chests and imagine that they’ve positively disproved God’s existence.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • sybaris

      There is as much evidence for one God as any other.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
    • G to the T

      Ummm... what? Again, no one is saying they can prove the non-existence of god (the Christian God may be another matter as it can be debated if the character of god in the biblical texts is internally consistent). We are saying there is not sufficient evidence to believe in god.

      PS – I have "faith" in nothing. I have some "beliefs" wich are founded on expereince and a (I'll admit) a few assumptions, but no "faith". Thanks anyways...

      March 18, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
  14. Recliner

    For example, the atheist might ask why God doesn’t enable people to walk on water today, or why doesn't He heal quadriplegics, or people whose heads have been removed by terrorists. The possible scenarios are limited only by the imagination of the atheist!

    March 18, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • Athiest

      Or it could be the fact that there was never any god and what you believe is made up. You waste your time, I'll enjoy mine.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • AC

      The burden of proof is on you, Recliner.

      March 18, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
  15. Recliner

    If God actually caused amputated arms and legs to grow back on occasion would the atheist then be convinced of God’s existence, or would s/he just dismiss the evidence as a genetic anomaly and pose some other hoop for God to jump though?

    March 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • The real Tom

      When it happens, get back to me and ask.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • orwell had not seen this before

      I heard about an ear being replaced, not an arm.

      science is doing that with some animals, someday for humans.
      but I am agnostic as to whether science is God. I don't think so, but your silly criteria would make it so.

      get back to me too.
      also if you got the facts on space aliens, get back to me. better, get with the aliens, they maybe able to prove your point.
      good luck, and don't let reality get in you way.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • G to the T

      I realize this may be hard for you to take, but most of us DO have an open mind. If there were modern miracles (real ones, not the "god saved me a parking spot" variety) any honest person would have to re-evaluate their beliefs. Anything else would be intellectually dishonest and against the very reason most of us are atheists to begin with.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
    • Recliner

      Life is a miracle. 99.99999999999% of the universe is hostile to our existence... yet here we exist.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Long odds are not proof of a god.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      It's just an example. What about disease, hunger, poverty, etc. Why would an omnipotent, omniscient god allow that.
      And then there are all the incorrect stories in the bible which don't hold up to scrutiny.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • Recliner

      @ What about disease, hunger, poverty, etc.
      Santy,

      Why is there enough food on this planet to feed everyone, but this doesn't happen? Is it man's sin (greed, pride, lust) that gets in the way? Or is it an all-powerful God that prevents this from happening?

      I think the reason that the topic of God weighed so heavily on your mind, is because God is pressing the issue. God wants to be known. Your sin is holding God back....

      March 18, 2013 at 4:00 pm |
    • AC

      "I realize this may be hard for you to take, but most of us DO have an open mind. If there were modern miracles (real ones, not the "god saved me a parking spot" variety) any honest person would have to re-evaluate their beliefs. Anything else would be intellectually dishonest and against the very reason most of us are atheists to begin with."

      I have to agree.

      Recliner, the day that this God comes up to me in person and says here I am...I am God and does something no man could ever do that is the day I'll believe there is a God. Until then, good luck making a believe out of me or any other atheist out there!

      March 18, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
  16. Robert

    The Bible "also has a book tie-in". Wait...wasn't that book already written?

    March 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
  17. Recliner

    But wait! Not so fast. If God actually did a genuine miracle—let’s say, parting the Red Sea or raising a dead person back to life—would His failure to do other similar miracles consti.tute proof of his non-existence? To think so would be silly.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • Pete

      "If God actually did a genuine miracle—let’s say, parting the Red Sea"

      You don't get around much do you, they proved it was low tide at the the time and Mosses being a former military person knew where to cross and the tide would come in.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • Christianity is a form of SEVERE mental illness

      Basing a decision on magical acts is not sound thinking.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
    • G to the T

      No... but stories about alleged miracles that happened in the distant past aren't exactly positive proofs either... next...

      March 18, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
  18. richard

    I thought he looked more like Darth Maul, but if Darth Maul and Obama look alike – then that wives' tale of they all look similar – might not be such a wives' tale....

    March 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
  19. Recliner

    Wow! I guess they’ve finally got us! The fact that God does not make missing limbs grow back must absolutely prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that God does not exist! I guess its time to close down our churches, hospitals, clinics, homeless shelters, pregnancy centers, schools, charities, youth programs, drug rehabilitation programs, orphanages, and mission agencies!

    March 18, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      That's just a moronic statement. However, all those good things you listed can be done without the need for religion to be shoved down ones throat.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • sidb1980

      At – Truth Prevails 🙂
      Who is shoving religion down your throught? You didn't have to read this article and you are not forced to watch "The Bible". You can turn the channel or turn off the radio or switch websites, right?

      March 18, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      sid: I get that reading comprehension is difficult for you...Recliner was not talking about the article, he/she was referring to earlier comments and I responded, if you can't keep up or have no clue as to what is happening you might find FOX news is more your speed.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • Recliner

      @ Truth Prevails 🙂

      You come here to feel superior over other people, that is why you use insults.

      You might just be a sad man, who is hurting. It is ok, there is help for you.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • sam

      Why are you posting over and over as if you either can't help yourself, or are very lonely?

      March 18, 2013 at 3:21 pm |
    • Recliner

      I saw other posters doing it, so I thought.... why not me?

      March 18, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Recliner: No superiority here. You implied that you need religion for good, I simply said you don't. Religion is not required do good in this world and if you find that insulting, so be it...it is reality. The difference between a secularist or non-believer doing good and a believer doing good, is that you won't get religion shoved down your throat by a non-believer; christians will hand out bibles and preach.
      Red Cross; Planned Parenthood; Doctors Without Borders, UNICEF...all doing amazing things and all secular.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
    • Recliner

      -> You implied that you need religion for good, I simply said you don't.

      Where did I imply you need religion for good?

      --> Red Cross; Planned Parenthood; Doctors Without Borders, UNICEF...all doing amazing things and all secular.

      All these organizations also have Christian volunteers, members and paid staff. And, despite your imagination, they are not handing out Bibles and preaching.

      I volunteer for causes – both with Christian and secular groups – we don't hand out Bibles and preach to people.

      You are wrong about that. Maybe some do, but not all.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Explain why your omnipotent, omniscient god would not either prevent human suffering or repair the damage. I see no evidence of such a being.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Sid, but we can't turn off the schools teaching superstition over science, laws dictated by interpretations of the book of superstitions, public buildings with quotes from the book of superstitions, etc.

      March 18, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • Recliner

      Get on your knees, confess – and ask God yourself.

      Don't demand me to explain it to me – you are not my boss. God is in charge, not you.

      Good luck on your search for God! God is within us!

      March 18, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Recliner, YOU are the one who posted your nonsense about healing amputees. If you don't want any responses, then why are you here?

      March 18, 2013 at 3:51 pm |
    • Recliner

      Bye.

      March 18, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
  20. Dark Poet

    Hmmm guess every black man looks like Obama? Right you racist lefties?

    He looks NOTHING like Obama.. more like that homeless Radio DJ....

    also he has a major french accent..

    Guess we couldn't go with "Bible, claim that Satan will be a French man!" and went with the whole "Obama" approach.

    March 18, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
    • orwell had not seen this before

      French??? English, by a non metric mile.
      compromise.
      let's say satan looks like recliner.
      then he must prove he is not satan, or related by blood sacrifice, or employed by, as agent or slave.
      until that happens, recliner is satan.

      next.

      March 18, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
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