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March 23rd, 2013
09:38 AM ET
My Take: The Empathy President gives an empathy speech
By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN (CNN) - In religious studies courses, professors often try to get their students to see the world through Hindu eyes or to walk a few miles in the shoes of a Confucian. Anthropologists refer to this as cultivating an emic (or insider) perspective. The less fancy name for it is empathy. Barack Obama is, for better or worse, an empathetic man who has tried for years to see the world through Republican eyes even as he has pleaded for Republicans to walk a few miles in Democratic shoes. As a former community organizer, he knows that you need a little empathy all around to get anything done among people with different world views. Alas, his efforts have met with little success in gridlocked D.C. This week, Obama took his toolbox of hope, change, trust and empathy to Israel. Addressing a group of Israeli students in Jerusalem on Thursday, he spoke of Iran and of America’s unwavering support for Israel. He even fended off a heckler, joking, “We actually arranged for that, because it made me feel at home.”
But the heart of the speech, which was interrupted repeatedly by hearty applause, came when our Empathy President spoke — twice — of empathy. Follow the CNN Belief Blog on Twitter After referring to the necessity of a just and secure peace, and conceding that “Israel has faced Palestinian factions who turn to terror, leaders who missed historic opportunities,” he challenged his Israeli listeners to experience the world as Palestinians do. "Put yourself in their shoes,” he said. “Look at the world through their eyes”:
Turning away from his script, Obama then spoke of Palestinian youth he had met earlier that day. “They weren’t that different from my daughters,” he said. “They weren’t that different from your daughters or sons.” Later in the one-hour speech, Obama harked back to his famous 2009 Cairo address to the Muslim world:
"That is where peace begins,” he continued, “not just in the plans of leaders but in the hearts of people.” Obama has been praised for taking his message directly to the Israeli people, much like he has been trying to take his domestic message in recent weeks directly to the American people. And while some have described this Jerusalem speech as one of his best ever, others have demurred, arguing that, abroad as well as home, Obama has to deliver more than mere rhetoric. Nonetheless, the president should be praised for getting to the heart of the matter on Thursday in Jerusalem. What he said will fully please neither Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu nor Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. And it is unlikely that any of his well-chosen words brought us any closer to peace in the Middle East. But Obama is correct to point out that, as long as both sides continue to see things merely from their own parochial perspectives, neither real peace nor real security will be possible. CNN’s Belief Blog: The faith angles behind the biggest stories Secretary of State John Kerry is now being charged with jump-starting, yet again, the peace process by attending to growing settlements, the fate of Jerusalem and other hot-button issues. But what is really needed here is a shift of perspective that recognizes antagonists (on both sides) as human beings with aspirations for their children and their children's children. Is it too much to hope that this is what the Israeli students who listened to this speech were applauding? The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.
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To Richard Cranium
Why? Are you so afraid of your beliefs that you that need to hide?
There is a little reply button on the bottom of each comment so you can keep a coherent thread.
It is others beliefs that need to be feared, and you really do have to be an incredible moron if you are using your real name.
Take a look around here, you will find nearly no one uses theri real name.
Writers have used a nom de plum for centuries not because they have something to hide, but because they value their privacy. History has shown that over zealous nutjobs (like the religious fundimentalists here), do radical things and justify it by their great gtrandfather in the sky.
If you do not believe you need security in place, you are nieve as well as a moron.
I'm going with the simpleton hypothesis.
End Religion
Oh my, according to the white pages there's only one Leroy Scharfenberg in the country. How's Arkansas this time of year?
He could be one of the two someone else found in Canada, though. I beleive it was in Edmonton.. Where it is very very snowy right about tonight.
To HWB
Wow! What convictions! Can't even give your name. That leaves me to the conclude that you don't really believe, do you? That goes to anyone. If you can't use your real name, your dung.
First it's "you're manure" and what a nice christian thing to say.
second, only a true moron would use his/her real name.
Oh my, according to the white pages there's only one Leroy Scharfenberg in the country. How's Arkansas this time of year?
@ER
LOL.
WUPS! replied to the wrong post. Sorry about the duplicate.
Small 'c'
End Religion
Oh my, according to the white pages there's only one Leroy Scharfenberg in the country. How's Arkansas this time of year?
He could be one of the two someone else found in Canada, though. I beleive it was in Edmonton.. Where it is very very snowy right about tonight.
Judea, the land of Jews, existed as a teritory for thousands of years. Romans called Jews by a derogatory name, philistine. Palestine as a culture has never existed, has no language, no tradition, no culture, etc. Israel has a right to exists, historically and philosophically.
Palestinians have as much right or more to exist than Americans. There were no "Americans" until Europeans came over and slaughtered forty or fifty million Indians in the name of their god and for his glory and decided that they had "been given" this land by their god. There is no logic that can account for the nation of the United States that cannot be used to account for the nation of Palestine. When people decide to band together and call themselves by a certain name, they attempt to gather enough power to expand and survive. Americans and Palestinians alike.
Moby- Was that comparison out of ignorance or passionate response related to dogma?
XMW: are you still beating your wife?
"philosophically"
Pulling words out of your a$$ now, are you?
Only in hinduism, fabrication of hindu Jews, criminal secular s, hinduism crime of hindu Migi s, tricksters recorded in hindu fabricated book of hindu Mithra ism, racist savior ism called Christianity. hindu Judea bastar d secular has one father, called hindu Lucifer, filthy self centered. denier of truth absolute GOD.
@ISLAMIC CROOK, IS IT WORTH TO COME OUT OF HIDING JUST TO POST YOUR GARBAGE ONLINE?, GO BACK TO YOUR HIDE OUT BEFORE DRONE GETS YOU.
Prayer changes things
Wishing on a star changes things just as much.
reply by someone who doesn't have a clue as to what prayer is.
A prayer is a wish, said either aloud or in your conscious mind.
a prayer is no different than a wish.
obvious: shouldn't your alias be oblivious? After all you do believe in prayer.
Prayer does not; you are such a LIAR. You have NO proof it changes anything! A great example of prayer proven not to work is the Christians in jail because prayer didn't work and their children died. For example: Susan Grady, who relied on prayer to heal her son. Nine-year-old Aaron Grady died and Susan Grady was arrested.
An article in the Journal of Pediatrics examined the deaths of 172 children from families who relied upon faith healing from 1975 to 1995. They concluded that four out of five ill children, who died under the care of faith healers or being left to prayer only, would most likely have survived if they had received medical care.
The statistical studies from the nineteenth century and the three CCU studies on prayer are quite consistent with the fact that humanity is wasting a huge amount of time on a procedure that simply doesn’t work. Nonetheless, faith in prayer is so pervasive and deeply rooted, you can be sure believers will continue to devise future studies in a desperate effort to confirm their beliefs!
"Atheism is not healthy for children and other living things"
That's why the data, has shown that atheists have happier and healthier lives than conservative Christians. Your post is built on a lie!!
A dream is a wish your heart makes when you're fast asleep.
In dreams you will lose your heartache- whatever you wish for, you keep
Have faith in your dreams and someday your rainbow will come shining through!
No matter how your heart is grieving, if you go on believing,
The dream that you wish will come true!
The gospel according to Livingston, David and Hoffman, cir 1949. Now, how is that sentiment different from prayer?
words spoken in hindu Judaism, selfish self center ism do not help, but they are words in tone of a hindu Pundit, crook trickster,not to benefit listeners, but keep them on path of hinduism ignorance to help hindu Pundit, criminal crook extend his plot. Truth absolute of Philistine is visible to every one, hindu Jews, criminal secular, self centered are by faith not, what they claim to be, HEBREW ISRAELITE, BUT HINDU JEWS, CRIMINAL SECULAR S OF EGYPTIAN AND PERSIAN ORIGIN, OUT TO HIND FOOL HUMANITY, HAVING NO RIGHT TO BE IN PHILISTINE. Obama's hinduism denial of truth absolute with words of truth absolute have no other purpose, but to hind fool humanity, as has been the case with hindu Lucifer, filthy secular, every hindu Jew, criminal secular,self centered by faith prays to as his god, by use of name of truth absolute GOD, foundation of American consti tution .
IRRELEVANT ISLAMIC GARBAGE BY WORLD REDOUNDED BHUNG, A SPECIAL TYPE OF MUSLIM
I realized, while watching the GOP debates, the following.
The liberals would try to free Jesus. The conservatives would be shouting, "Crucify him!".
You got that absolutely wrong. The Democrats would deny the existence of Jesus and GOP praise him..
Richard Cranium
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Ridiculous.
It is not a crime to acknowledge islam as a religion since it is one.
One group clls me inifidel, the next calls me pagan...names are unimportant.
The only real way to find peace, is to abandon all of these silly superst!tious religions.
Join us in reality (though for you rainman it is a much longer trip.)
seriously coward.... come forth and try having an intelligent comment rather than destroy others second amendment rights...or are you too much of a coward?
The only way to have 1,000 years of Peace is for the Pope and Catholic Bishops to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate heart of Mary at the same time – on the same day. Peace guaranteed. Look it up.
The only way to find true peace is to remove that which is fought over...religion is #1 on that list.
Richard C – your comments lack just about everything but adolescent naivety. Seriously , how old are you? Read what I said – AGAIN – then look it up – THEN come back to me with an intelligent comment.
Streuth, talking to some of you biggotted nut jobs is like wading through mokasses!
.......To ask the GOP to walk in the shoes of an impoverished inner city 10 year old.....................is like asking the wind to feel for an earthquake...............NOT GONNA HAPPEN
To ask the Democrats to walk in the shoes of an impoverished inner city 10 year old.....................is like asking them to lift those poor souls out of poverty .............IT HAS NEVER HAPPEN and WILL NEVER HAPPEN. All they have ever done was keep them in poverty the rest of their lives and get their votes forever.
How does one report the abuse of the 'Report Abuse' button?
try:
try Belief Blog Editor – eric.marrapodi@cnn.com
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Dang,
Report-Abuse-bot is here too.
This article is a JOKE right? Comments like –
"Turning away from his script, Obama then spoke of Palestinian youth he had met earlier that day. “They weren’t that different from my daughters,” he said." Sounds like "if I had a son he would be like Trevon". Just comments that are 'for the moment' and mean nothing!
I cannot understand how the recipient of the "Noble Peace Prize" has done NOTHING to promote peace. In fact in the US he has done more to foment distrust and division than any one in my memory. He jumps into situations and makes stupid remarks (like the Trevon, the Cambridge, and many others) which only serve to create dissension.
The writer is clearly a leftist / liberal / democrat and the article SHOULD be labeled as an EDITORIAL OPINION.
This article is EXACTLY why people are tuning out media news!
Turning away from media? You're here, aren't you? You felt compelled to comment. It looks like things are workign just as CNN hopes. Thanks for contributing, we know you'll be back!
This is opinion. It seems you are just another Obama hater. The president in your opinion can do nothing right. Hate on...you'll die out sooner just like the Dodo bird.
Great comment from "Common sense mother" What a nice change from Obama apologists.
Obama uses emotion in the same way he uses whining, blaming and bullying - to appeal to the uneducated who think life is the same as 24/7 trash TV!
Obama had a cheek lecturing the Israelis on how to run their country and CNN [Obama's PR group] beefed it up. Pity America's going down the tubes and broke!
America spends valuable air time on unimportant drivel. Why doesn't Obama take the politicians to task – the ones who are taking mega bucks from the Chinese to take thousands of gallons of water from aquifers that feed the Great Lakes ?
The Lakes are draining at an alarming level and it is NOT global warming. I love America but the mind boggles when you think that :
Water is the 'new oil'
US politicians are draining their country's water for MONEY
Us will have to buy BACK their own water from the Chinese!!!!! How stupid is that?
Remenber folks – in a year or two – whoever has water has power. Unbelievable.
Haven't you noticed? It's the Republicans who are doing all of that; they suck the corporate teat. Obama is one man. Get a clue.
For you with no name - Obama is the LEADER [lol] The buck stops with him. If he can take credit for the things that go well, with no input from him at all [like Bin Laden etc] – then he can take the rap for the wreckage that used to be a great USA till he divided it.
He's off showing off in the M.E .while Ammerica is begging for action domestically. Talk about Nero fiddled while Rome burnt...............
Empthy? Cranial/rectal inversion for sure, and a definite bromance.
Excellent comment.
Why are so many new posts on this storyline appearing in seemingly random time?
Look at the time posts and see for your self.
Also noticed that bethany has tried to post several times today but when I go to see the comment...nothing there...is it blocked?
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jacka-ss...yet "ass" is allowed by itself.....
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ji-sm
koo-ch....as in koo-chie koo..!
nip-ple
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reality
I am well aware of the filter...this is different.
The timestamps of the posts are out of sequence...post a new comment it may go to the bottom of the page, or the top.
As far as bethany...under recent comments, the name has appeared but it goes no where when you click it...since bethany and the other hundred names it was posting under was one of the main culprits in the recent censorship, perhaps it lets her post, but immediately removes it.
Just wondering what is going on.
@RC
Someone is getting trigger happy with the report abuse option and making life difficult for all on here.
Damocles
I'm aware of that too...but there is something more going on....The delete bot can't change the time stamps or put the comments out of time sequence.
Look at the time stamps on the original posts on this topic....they are not consistant.
Yeah, I see what you are saying, I saw it on the 'be nice' thread. Only thing I can think of is as posts are deleted it just screws everything up. I tried to respond to someone on the other thread and found that I was replying to something completely different.
Richard Cranium,
"Look at the time stamps on the original posts on this topic....they are not consistant."
Some have mentioned that the blue (WordPress registered) people's posts appear time-stamped differently - Ranier is blue and it's hard to see, but so is @.
But yes, there are hijinks going on in other areas here, for sure.
From what I understand, when a OP post is deleted, the answering replies on that thread all drop down to the last page of the article. If one tries to reply to any of the dropped down reply posts, that reply won't appear as a thread, either.
I'm not logged into WP, @*. I'm just using mobile version on my phone. My time stamps come up EST.
ah, @. - good to know.
Yeah, I think that time-stamp inconsistencies are understandable - the mass disappearance of posts is not. Sure wish the Eds/techs would get on it.
I posted 2 comments in favor of the Pope. Both disappeared immediately. So yes – they're very definite' they will generally only accept comments that they want. I don't know WHY they have an opinion page! BBC are the only ones who only take out seriously abusive comments.
Send CNN staff [and THAT includes their journalists who are so openly FOR Obama and AGAINST the GOP it isn't true] f to the BBC for training in ethical journalism and intelligent comment.
No. There has been troll who discovered that CNN changed the effect of the report abuse button from nothing to delayed automatic delete. They have been shredding the boards ever for about a week now.
be honest
CNN is not doing it...it is the work of one self righteous coward and the report abuse button.
Coward can't argue its points so it tries to take its ball and go home...it won't work. It just amazes me the lengths that some people will go to to deny others their rights. What a waste of good oxygen.
Be honest
"I posted 2 comments in favor of the Pope. Both disappeared immediately."
What do you mean by "immediately"?
Did your posts:
- show up and then disappear after a short time... that's a Report Abuse troll.
- or just never appear at all - that's the automatic word filter.
What in the world is going on with that so called "filter"?
Who in the world came up with the idea of such a "filter"?
They do not like FACTS
It would be NICE......... but
Maybe they should not have created the wedge !!!
The wedge strategy is a political and social action plan authored by the Discovery Insti-tute, the hub of the intelligent design movement. The strategy was put forth in a Discovery Insti-tute manifesto known as the Wedge Docu-ment,[1] which describes a broad social, political, and academic agenda whose ultimate goal is to defeat materialism, naturalism, evolution, and "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic
convictions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy
Peace
Does one have any empathy for a religion professor who promulgates the love of all gods even though he knows they do not exist????
The only way any religion works is because the god(s) doesn't exist.
If God existed there would be no need for religion.
How does anyone know that any god exists, or not? Thor could be making personal connections with a lot of people somewhere else. How could you claim that they aren't actually talking to a god?
Prothero is a wannabee theologian. Any old fool can cram for exams, whereas you need intellect and ethics to rationalize what you've read in books.
This idiot was bragging that in America, the PEOPLE vote their leader – so why don't the Catholic Church let the PEOPLE vote for their Pope!!!!!
Like voting in a country is the same as 1.2 BILLION Catholics scattered worldwide could vote their leader in 3 DAYS??
See what I mean? Prothero is NOT an intelligent man. But he IS anti-Catholic so he suits CNN.
Where does he say that in this article, be honest?
Although Prothero IS an awful columnist, and I take nothing he says seriously. I find his articles vastly amusing.
You sin. We all sin. I just sinned and I'm ready to sin again. Don't tell me you don't sin.
Idiot box? Why would ER obey you? You're using a product or two invented by Atheists and yet you still read Gullibles Travels (aka the buybull)...should you not be on your knee's praying to your imaginary friend for forgiveness for being rude?
Oops... I just sinned all over the idiot box. "Clean up on Aisle 69!"
We all do bad things, some of us more often than others, but you have to believe in a god who is easily offended in order to "sin".
Sin is a religious concept. There is no way to sin in a theological sense if you are not religious.
Me has a question. Do you have cookie?
You're a comedy writer, right? I love it. David Letterman could reallly use you.
Oh blinding light...oh light that blinds...
I cannot see
look out for me.
Hymn from the church of the blinding light
I wonder if Obama believes in Noah's ark.
Obama believes in equal treatment for everyone, just as any good president should.
Noahs Ark is a fallacy and could not have happened-science has proven this point numerous times over, so I would hope a smart man like Obama would believe the peer-reviewed studies over a 2000 year old story.
Yeah, Rainer, we're all aware of that "Christian love." Rational humans call it violence and hate.
Rain, you idiot, the United States is a secular nation. Everyone has the right to practice religious freedom, even the religions YOU don't like.
You know little to nothing about American politics. I'd advise you not to comment on them, or our POTUS, because you are only ever still stuck in your beloved Germany of the 30's.
Truth prevails –
He supports abortion. America has slaughtered 53 MILLION of it's own children I don't call THAT a man with "equal love and consideration for all" do you?
He support ethnic groups – but ignores Americans [for votes]
He supports women but not women who believe in living by Christian standards [for votes]
He sold Israel down the river during Netanyahu's last official visit – now he "values" Israel , his new BFF.[ because he needs their Intelligence – Mossad being the best!]
Nah! Obama has 2 slogans above his bed:
[1] "There are 2 sides to every argument but I don't have time to listen to yours!"
[2] "So what if I ain't efficient – I'm cute!"
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Abortion is not "slaughtering children" anymore than hanging a schoolkid's picture on your refrigerator is "publishing an author."
"He supports abortion. America has slaughtered 53 MILLION of it's own children I don't call THAT a man with "equal love and consideration for all" do you?
He support ethnic groups – but ignores Americans [for votes]
He supports women but not women who believe in living by Christian standards [for votes]
He sold Israel down the river during Netanyahu's last official visit – now he "values" Israel , his new BFF.[ because he needs their Intelligence – Mossad being the best!]"
Abortion is not slaughtering children!! You are blinded by your faith and lack of education if you seriously believe that.
So what if he supports ethnic groups? and no, he didn't ignore American's, considering they voted also...it wasn't only republitards American's voted for...now if you can prove me wrong, please list the web-site where this is shown, otherwise it's another stupid claim.
His support for women is all around...prove otherwise.
The issue with Israel is never going away, at least not any time soon and as much as I get what you are saying here, it still does not merit him being labelled as the bad one-many other presidents before him supported them also. The only thing you seem to see is all the bad and not one bit of good about him. You have pre-conceived thoughts due to your devotion to your belief (why the hell else would you speak against abortion when the matter has been settled in Roe v Wade and will NEVER be over turned?).
So yes he does want equal rights for all regardless of what you may think. Equal rights to you would mean that the buybull is what is used to dictate the country...thus making abortion; women's rights; same gender relationships illegal but yet keeping child abuse; slavery; rape legal.
.....And let's be honest: you are an Obama basher. The man could simultaneously cure cancer and AIDS, end world hunger, put a chicken in every pot, and you would still find fault with him. Time to turn of hate talk radio and get a clue.
Truth prevails
I'm a Reproductive Biologist. I and ALL doctors, Foetologists, Nurses and Reproductive Biologists [who don't make Millions a year from abortions], will tell you that life begins at conception. So – Abortion is an abomination which slaughters children.
Cope.
be honest, follow your own advice.
@Be honest. One cannot judge a Christian for having an abortion without having heard their personal story and reasons. For God may have spoken to them personally, having already determined that the unborn fetus will be a most heinous sinner of the kind that were yet unborn in the population that God destroyed before Noah; God may have instructed the mother-to-be to abort. What good Christian could in good conscience deny or attempt to interrupt their fellow Christian who heard directly from God without understanding their story and communication with God? Judge not, until you have all the facts.
Be Honest: First off, I call bs on your profession. Second, Roe v Wade would not be legal if it was not scientifically backed. Science does not say that life begins at conception. Even if some scientists disagree with that fact doesn't change the fact that it is a legal procedure between a woman and her physician and is strictly none of your business. You don't want people in your private affairs then stay out of theirs. Women have abortions for numerous reasons but I guess saving their life doesn't matter to you as long as you continue to step on their rights to do as they wish with their own body. No woman should be forced to carry through with a pregnancy. If it doesn't directly affect you, then mind your own business. Quite simple really but obviously something you're not capable of doing...people like you hold society back!
Pray for Peace!
For thousands of years people have prayed for peace...it obviously is not working...and never will.
Wish on a star for peace
..for the impatience, great life lesson for all of us.
Pray for Peace!
I hope there will be a peaceful solution. State of Israel has the right to exist. Pray for peace.
Did Isreal have the right to exist in 1947?
history goes back to eons into BC
"no thanks to Abraham and Sarah
history goes back to eons into BC"
That statement makes no sense.
let us read history...it will make sense.
You haven't answered the question.
Did isreal have the right to exist in 1947?
1900?
1500?
answered the question in the last post...gotta run.
Peace. I will continue to pray for peace in Israel.
You did not answer the question.
You basically said look at history. That does not answer the question.
Typing a response does not equate to answering the question. Nice try though.
Richard Cranium – Israel were GIVEN the right in 1948 in a vote by 76 UN countries. Palestine were given in too on the same day but REFUSED it saying they would not take citizenship un til every Jew was oushed into the sea.
I wish people who knew nothing of the history of Israel would shut the heck up.
be honest
I know more of the history than most.
My question was to the idiot who started with an ignorant comment.
My question remains. Did Isreal have a right to exist in 1900?1500?
Great response by the way... I don't understand whats going on so everyone else shut up....
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The Bible will keep you from sin, or sin will keep you from the Bible.
D L Moody
Since sin is in the bible, if you do not know the bible, you will not know sin.
If you know the bible, you know sin.
I prefer reality.
when someone lies, cheats, watches p o r n, f o r n I c a tes , is jealous, prou...
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when someone lies, cheats, watches p o r n, f o r n I c a tes , is jealous, prou..."
It is human, and part of human nature.
I sin all the time, otherwise Jesus died for nothing.
Peregrine: Jesus didn't die...he slept for 3 days, nothing more...if he was dead he would not have gotten back up (no-one else has ever come back to life after 3 days...what makes your imaginary friends kid so special?). It's a fairy tale with no substantiating evidence to back it and no the buybull doesn't qualify as evidence.
Truth prevails – what a really childish remark! I've always upheld the notion that it takes intelligence and Faith to understand the New Testament. Eminent doctors, scientists, professors and thinking men and women accept it with the evidence from the New Testament written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They were EYE WITNESSES. John was with Mary, Jesus' Mother when He died.
Surely you don't BELIEVE that no Gospels were written for 140 years after Jesus' death? No sireebob – THEY were the Apochryphal gospels and were written from hearsay.
Be Honest is an idiot who only accepts "evidence" under the duress of his own confirmation bias.
Sorry, T.P. Old joke. Btw I agree with you.
Be Honest: You call my remark childish but yet you're the one accepting a god that can't be shown to exist with any evidence. Your claim that many professional's believe is silly...it doesn't make them right either, it just means they haven't let go. Approximately 30% are christian with another 17% being Atheist...the numbers for Atheists is rapidly inclining. Once again if you have information to the contrary, please provide the link for it (do not use a site that comes from a theological standpoint-that is circular reasoning and proves nothing. My point is that the resurrection makes absolutely no sense and is impossible to have happened according to what science has shown. You are blinded by your faith (belief without evidence) and obviously don't care if what you believe is true or not, you only care that you get to think you're more intelligent because you have a book written 2000 years ago, by 40 different men that provides what you believe to be the answers. If you were truly intelligent, you would take advantage of this wonderful thing called the internet (that you would not have if not for an Atheist) and you'd open your mind to the updated evidence. If for one second the buybull held vital evidence in this world, it could be taught in schools but fortunately it can't be.
Peregrine: My apologies for the misunderstanding.
Be Honest: One more thing: if the gospels are the true eye witness accounts of those men, then the buybull is not the word of god.
hey liar, don't spew nonsense about something you know nothing about . and/or something that you seem to think you 'know of' by browsing infidels.org
Cowell: You're an idiot! You'd know nothing of what I know. You call me a liar but fail to back your claim...show me where I lied.