Christ was persecuted, but what about Christians?
Roman persecution of Christians was depicted in paintings such as "The Christian Martyrs' Last Prayer" by Jean-Leon Gerome.
March 30th, 2013
10:00 PM ET

Christ was persecuted, but what about Christians?

CNN examines the tumultuous early years of Christianity in a special narrated by Liam Neeson. Watch “After Jesus: The First Christians,” Sunday at 8 p.m. ET.

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - She walked into the Roman arena where the wild beasts awaited her. She trembled not from fear but from joy.

Her name was Vibia Perpetua. She was just 22, a young mother singing hymns as the crowd jeered and a lion, leopard and wild cow encircled her.

One of the beasts attacked, hurling her to the ground. She covered an exposed thigh with her bloody robe to preserve her modesty and groped in the dust for her hair pin so she could fix her disheveled hair.

And when a Roman executioner approached Perpetua with a sword, her last words before collapsing were aimed at her Christian companions: “Stand fast in the faith, and love you all one another and do not let our sufferings be a stumbling block to you.”

Millions of Christians worldwide will celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus on this Easter Sunday. But the story of how the church rose to prominence after Jesus’ death is being turned upside down.

According to a belief passed down through the centuries, the church grew because of Roman persecution. The blood of Christian martyrs such as Perpetua became “the seed of the church,” said third-century church leader Tertullian. It’s the Hollywood version of Christianity reflected in epic biblical films such as “Ben-Hur” and “The Robe.” Vicious Romans relentlessly targeted early Christians, so the story goes, but the faith of people like Perpetua proved so inspiring that Christianity became the official religion of Rome, and eventually the largest religion in the world.

But that script is getting a rewrite. The first Christians were never systematically persecuted by the Romans, and most martyrdom stories - with the exception of a handful such as Perpetua's - were exaggerated and invented, several scholars and historians say. It wasn’t just how the early Christians died that inspired so many people in the ancient world; it was how they lived.

“You had much better odds of winning the lottery than you would have becoming a martyr,” says Joyce E. Salisbury, author of “The Blood of Martyrs: Unintended Consequences of Ancient Violence.”

“The odds were pretty slim. More people read about martyrs than ever saw one.”

Do Christians have a martyr complex today?

The debate over exactly how many Christians were persecuted and martyred may seem irrelevant centuries later. A scholarly consensus has indeed emerged that Roman persecution of Christians was sporadic, and that at least some Christian martyrdom stories are theological tall tales.

But a new book by Candida Moss, a New Testament professor at the University of Notre Dame, is bringing that message to the masses.

Moss says ancient stories of church persecution have created a contemporary cult of bogus Christian martyrs. She says too many American Christians are acting like they’re members of a persecuted minority, being thrown to the lions by people who simply disagree with them.

Professor Candida Moss, author of "The Myth of Persecution," says most stories of Christian martyrs were fabricated.

She cited former Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. Romney claimed last year that President Barack Obama was waging a “war against religion,” and Santorum said the gay community “had gone out on a jihad” against him. Other Christians invoke images of persecution when someone disagrees with them on controversial issues such as abortion or birth control, says Moss, whose "The Myth of Persecution" was recently released.

The problem with invoking persecution is it implies your opponents are evil - and no common ground can be found with evil,  Moss says.

“When someone is persecuting you" she says, "there is no room for dialogue."

Others say Moss’ claim is dangerous.

People such as Perpetua did die because of their beliefs. The first Christians were tortured, reviled and held in contempt by Romans - and their example helped the church grow, they say.

The Rev. Robert Morgan, author of  "On This Day in Christian History: 365 Amazing and Inspiring Stories about Saints, Martyrs and Heroes, " says it’s true that some of the accounts of martyrdom were “undoubtedly embellished” and that many of the persecution stories were “handed down in an atmosphere of confusion and pressure.”

Still, being a Christian in the first century was a risky move - persecution was significant. Jesus and most of his apostles were executed, he says.

“To deny the history of the movement is a way of attacking the movement,” Morgan says.

Some opposition to contemporary Christians is indeed evil, Morgan says. Christians are being killed today in places such as Nigeria and North Africa.

“Christians do not have a victim’s mentality,” Morgan says. “They take their stands, they know what they believe and they do good in this world. They are the ones who have established orphanages, hospitals and charitable institutions. For some reason, there’s this animosity against them.”

Hatred of Christians is woven into much of the New Testament. Jesus constantly warned his followers to expect persecution. The Apostle Paul wrote many of his epistles from jail. And the death of the first Christian martyr, Stephen, is dramatically recorded in the New Testament book the Acts of  the Apostles.

The Easter message itself is a story of martyrdom - Jesus, unjustly executed by the Romans. The idea that Christians are at war with demonic forces in the world is reflected throughout the New Testament, says Bryan Litfin, a theology professor at Moody Bible Institute in Chicago.

“If Jesus was just a soft moral teacher who taught us to love one another and petted little babies, the Romans wouldn’t have crucified him,”  Litfin says. “Jesus is a polarizing figure, then and today. The early Christians weren’t foisting a narrative out of the blue about being martyrs. ”

'Like the action heroes of the ancient world'

If the first Christians pictured themselves as waging war against the world, the martyrs were their version of the Navy SEALs. They were the elite Christians who inspired and united others of their faith.

There was a purpose behind spreading stories of persecution: Nothing brings a new group closer together than a common enemy, Moss says.

“The idea that you are persecuted forges a concrete identity,” Moss says. “It really solidifies your sense of group identity.”

The stories of Christian persecution were so popular that they spawned a market during the first centuries after the crucifixion. The places where martyrs were born and died became early tourist stops. Towns competed with one another to draw rich pilgrims seeking martyr memorabilia, Moss says.

“People would go and buy the equivalent of a T-shirt,” Moss says. “You’d have all these little combs with saints on them that people would buy, and lamps with saints on them. People would also buy fruit from trees that grew in the vicinity of martyrs’ graves. Of course, the prices were completely jacked up.”

Church leaders began to embellish and invent stories of martyrdom to inspire the faithful but also to settle theological feuds, Moss says. If, say, a bishop wanted to denounce a rivals’ theology, he spun a story in which a martyr denounced the same doctrine with his last breath, Moss says.

“Martyrs were like the action heroes of the ancient world,” Moss says. “It was like getting your favorite athlete endorsing your favorite brand of soda.”

But how often did Romans force Christians to endure torture or die for their faith? Christianity took roughly 300 years to conquer Rome. The emperor Constantine converted to Christianity in 312 and gave Christians religious freedom.  Christianity became the official religion of Rome by the end of the fourth century,  scholars say.

For the first 300 years of the church, Christians were often ridiculed and viewed with contempt. But Roman leaders spent about "less than 10 years" out of the first 300 actually persecuting Christians, Moss says. There are only six reliable cases of Christian martyrdom before A.D. 250 out of “hundreds of stories,” including Perpetua’s, she says.

Many scholars have greeted Moss’ contention that Roman persecution of Christians was exaggerated with a shrug. They say it was common knowledge in the academic world.

“There weren’t that many Christians who were persecuted,” says Gail O’Day, dean of the Wake Forest University School of Divinity in North Carolina. “When you actually read the Roman historical records, the Christians just weren’t that important to them. Most Christians just got along with empire.”

When Roman persecution did occur, though, it was vicious. The Emperor Nero covered fully conscious Christians with wax and used them as human torches. Other Christians were skinned alive and covered with salt, while others were slowly roasted above a pit until they died.

Perpetua’s passion

One of the most famous martyrs was Perpetua.

She lived in Carthage in North Africa (modern-day Tunisia) and was arrested in March 203 with four others as they prepared for baptism. The Roman Emperor Septimius Severus had decreed that any new conversion to Christianity would result in death.

History remembers Perpetua because she kept a diary during her imprisonment. It’s called "The Passion of Perpetua and Felicity" (Felicity was a slave girl arrested with Perpetua). It’s the oldest-surviving document from a Christian woman. The emotion in the diary is almost unbearable. Perpetua describes the pain of leaving her infant son, who she was still nursing. She describes a prison visit from her weeping father, who kissed her hands while trying to get her to renounce her faith.

Perpetua's father visited her in prison, begging her to think of him and renounce her faith.

A narrator picks up the story in the diary after Perpetua was sent to her death. He says in the diary that Perpetua’s faith was so inspiring it caused the prison’s warden, a man called Pudens, to convert. The narrator also describes Perpetua's death.

While she was imprisoned, Perpetua says God gave her visions to reassure her. After one, she wrote:

“I understood that I should fight, not with beasts but against the devil. But I knew that mine was the victory.”

You can’t discount the power of such stories, even if persecution “wasn’t extremely common,” says Litfin, the Moody Bible Institute professor.

Persecution was central to the rise of the early church, he says.

“How many people in your church would have to be pulled out and executed and tormented for it not to have a tremendous effect for many years on your memory and self-perception,” Litfin says. “The early Christians are not foisting a narrative out of the blue about being matyrs.”

The early Christians' secret weapon

Other scholars say it wasn't simply persecution that helped the church grow. Instead, they say, Christians had a secret weapon.

The martyrs may have gotten all the press, but it was ordinary Christians who got it done by the way they treated friends and strangers.

Life in ancient Rome was brutal and nasty, says Rodney Stark, author of "The Triumph of Christianity." Stark’s well-regarded book gives one of the most detailed descriptions of the early church and ancient Rome.

Forget those antiseptic portraits of Roman cities you see in biblical moves such as “The Robe.” Roman cities were overcrowded, raw sewage ran in the streets, people locked their doors at night for fear of being robbed and plagues were rampant. Soap had not yet been invented, Stark says.

“The stink of the cities in the summertime must have been astounding,” Stark says. “You would have smelled a city miles before you got to it.”

Christians stood out because they created a “miniature welfare state" to help the less fortunate, Stark says. They took in infant girls routinely left for dead by their parents. They risked their lives to tend the sick when plagues hit and others fled in terror. They gave positions of leadership to women when many women had no rights, and girls as young as 12 were often married off to middle-aged men, he says.

Ordinary Romans might have thought Christians were odd but liked having them for neighbors, Stark says.

“If people had really been against them, I don’t think they would have grown like they did,” Stark says.

Christianity became so popular that when Rome did unleash one of its sporadic waves of persecutions, the empire couldn’t stop the church’s momentum, Stark says.

“If you knocked off a bishop, there were 20 guys waiting to be bishop,” Stark says

Christian belonging, not blood, is what drew many people, another scholar says.

The Easter story of a risen savior wasn’t distinctive in Rome’s competitive religious marketplace. Dying for one’s beliefs wasn’t considered heroic; it was expected in the Roman world, says Selina O' Grady, author of "And Man Created God: A History of the World at the Time of Jesus."

The early church, though, was radically inclusive. First-century Rome was undergoing globalization. The peace of Rome had made travel easier. People left homes and tribal ties for Rome. The empire was filled with rootless and excluded people: immigrants, traders, slaves.

The Christian message offered guidelines for living in this strange new world, she says.

“Its universal message, its proclamation of equality, unconditional love, offered everyone in the Roman Empire a new family, a new community, and a way to live,” O’Grady says.

Roman rulers eventually found reasons to support the church, she says.

The Christian message of obeying earthly masters - “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's" - reduced the potential for social unrest, O’Grady says.

“Christianity told the poor and lowly that their status was noble and that there would be recompense in the afterlife,” O’Grady says. “It was a wonderful recipe for creating good, obedient Roman subjects.”

A turning point for the early church was the conversion of Constantine. Scholars still debate Constantine’s motive. By that time the empire was rife with division, and Christians had become a major political bloc with members in the highest reaches of Roman society, says Stark, the sociologist.

“Constantine was interested so much in church affairs for the rest of his life, but I don’t think there’s a reason to not think he was a sincere Christian,” Stark says. “But he was also an egomaniac and an emperor.”

The growth of Christianity was too complex to be attributed to any one factor - whether it be Constantine, persecution or Christianity's message of compassion and inclusion, Stark says.

“I don’t think there was a primary reason,” he says. “It was a collection of things. It was all part of a package.”

Wrapped in that package, though, were the persecution stories of people such as Perpetua.

Today, churches have been named after Perpetua; films and graphic novels have been made about her life. She is considered a saint.

Her words still inspire. People still read her diary. There’s probably a Christian somewhere in the world now facing danger who is taking courage from Perpetua’s ordeal.

One passage in Perpetua’s diary is particularly luminous.

Perpetua stopped keeping her diary just before she was sent into the arena. No one knows for sure what she felt when she faced her moment of death, but she did write what she expected to see afterward.

She wrote that God gave her a reassuring vision while in prison. In the vision, she saw a great bronze ladder ascending to heaven. At the foot of the ladder was a great serpent surrounded by swords and knives.

Perpetua said she ignored the serpent and climbed the ladder. When she arrived at the top, she saw a great garden and a white-haired man in shepherd’s clothing milking a sheep. He was flanked by thousands of others Christians dressed in white.

“And he raised his head and beheld me and said to me: Welcome child.”

The man gave Perpetua curds from the milk of the sheep, and she said it tasted sweet.

She then wrote:

“And I took it with joined hands and ate it up: and all that stood around said, Amen.”

Centuries later, millions of people who look to Perpetua are still saying amen.

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Christianity • Easter • Faith • History • Jesus

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  1. virginia

    Evil persecutes God and his followers...but cannot harm any of God's children or God who is existence - only when evil perverts them individuals or confused them individuals by deceit can then harm mankind when the individual departs from the side of the lord our Heavenly God...San Peter denied Jesus one's or twice but never God himself...not once...

    April 30, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
  2. biggles

    Little preevert sambo, y doesn't your rich pal give money to change the law? U little liar with the big mouth

    April 29, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
    • Science

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      April 29, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
    • sam stone

      still blabbing on like a diseased little gash, pen-day-ho?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:41 am |
  3. David

    the woman that say that the persecution of the christian was just a myth and a fabricated, is influence by the spirit of the ROMANS to say something like that. The roman catholic church has the blood of all those martyrs in her hand and she will never wash it off, and has become a cage of all unclean birds. Mat_24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
    Luk 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:

    April 28, 2013 at 9:09 pm |
  4. akmac65

    The earliest "Christians" were actually Jews until the church was hijacked by the Romans. The scriptures refer to Jesus' literal brothers and sisters but the Roman church had made the rabbi/prophet into a god so they deleted those references. The Roman church had also made Mary into a permanent virgin, so no kids allowed.
    If you think about it, the divinity of Christ makes no sense, nor does making Judas (a barely hidden reference to Jews in general) a traitor, since: 1. God cannot die, not to mention be resurrected; and 2. if Jesus had to die, someone had to do it and blaming the Jews let the Romans off the hook.

    April 28, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
    • Elena

      that is right, the very first Christians were Jews who accepted JESUS ass the messiah, the son of God", the phrases persecuted early Christian in reprisal!!

      April 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm |
  5. the praisworthy

    jesus was persecuted=god was persecuted so who was in charge?

    April 28, 2013 at 11:28 am |
    • Marie

      The Bible clearly teaches that God and Jesus are two separate individuals. Read the book of John. Over and over again Jesus separates himself from being equal to his Father by saying "the Father is greater than I am"..."I do the will of Him that sent me"...
      The majority of "Christian" religions teach the lie that Almightly God and Jesus Christ are the same person. Colossians 1:15,16 says that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation so how could he be God? God was not created but has always existed.

      April 28, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
  6. Banjo Ferret

    Stop being persecuted (snicker) for your false sky daddy. Embrace Tim the Destroyer of Worlds and recognize Ferretianism as the one true religion. Repent and secure your purple energy bubble! (banjoferret d c)

    April 28, 2013 at 10:20 am |
  7. Christian persecution on CNN blog

    For me it's been a little like watching someone beat up the fat kid at camp.

    April 28, 2013 at 10:20 am |
  8. Science

    From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life


    Education for adults too

    April 28, 2013 at 6:32 am |
    • Gabriel

      There are way too many assumptions and supporting theories with assumptions for me to take the atheistic evolutionary theory seriously. There are many scientists of many faiths who have no problem squaring science with their religious beliefs.

      April 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Atheistic theories? What in the name of fvck are you talking about? There are no "atheistic theories." What assumptions do you mean? You do know that sometimes the honest answer is the only rational answer and that is: We don't know.

      April 28, 2013 at 11:22 pm |
    • Science


      If they would share this at mass on Sunday's..............religion would disappear !

      Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.

      Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’

      Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
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      April 29, 2013 at 9:26 am |
    • { ! }

      "From soup to cells." Ultimately, cells are as irrelevant as soup. Science is full of proofs that are virtually meaningless in the long run. Scientists can tell us something about the human organism. But they seem to be clueless on such questions as "what is a human person", and "Who (not 'what') are we?" These last questions are the hard ones and should be left to philosophers and theologians. Scientists, those priests of scientism, should cope with the small stuff.

      April 29, 2013 at 11:27 am |
    • Science

      Was the bible around back then ?

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      Mar. 4, 2013 — The discovery and analysis of an extremely rare African American Y chromosome pushes back the time of the most recent common ancestor for the Y chromosome lineage tree to 338,000 years ago. This time predates the age of the oldest known anatomically modern human fossils.


      No god(s) needed or required to graduate from public schools in the US

      Remember : Adam had to POKE himself hard with his OWN BONE to create Eve.

      No god(s) needed................... Old. DNA works..................also catches crooks !

      Ancient DNA Reveals Europe's Dynamic Genetic History

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      April 29, 2013 at 1:45 pm |
  9. Paul Sonnek

    As with all species, cats have requirements for specific dietary nutrients. Certain nutrients, including many vitamins and amino acids, are degraded by the temperatures, pressures and chemical treatments used during manufacture, and hence must be added after manufacture to avoid nutritional deficiency.'

    Many thanks

    April 27, 2013 at 9:29 pm |
  10. Leigh

    You have to consider the source, as we always should on both sides of the spectrum. She obviously has some political axes to grind. So I doubt many will take her views seriously, since the fly in the face of what we have learned through the years about such Christians martyrs as Jim Elliot (speared to death by the Aucas and yet his son went back to be a missionary to them, because he LOVED them, something she might want to consider). : )

    April 27, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
  11. scrogs22us

    This lady hasn't done any real homework – 1 Christian ever 4 minutes was killed in 2009 I believe, on the other side of the planet- Hindu's kill Christians in India, the Chinese church is underground because of it's ban on Christianity, Russia killed thousands in it's atheist conquest, Indochina the Muslims decapitate Christians... Do your own homework, find out, and look for sources that don't share your bias

    April 27, 2013 at 7:36 am |
    • Science

      For what...................... ? Make sure to read what the pope said !

      Where do morals come from?

      By Kelly Murray, CNN


      Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.

      Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’

      Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
      bears his name as the “God particle.”


      Pope praises science, but insists God created world updated Thur October 28, 2010
      Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday – God did create the universe. The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme... \



      Heaven is 'a fairy story,' scientist Stephen Hawking says updated Tue May 17, 2011
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  12. Sunil Thomas

    Try to know whats going on around the world. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=443523295737702

    April 26, 2013 at 9:18 pm |
  13. Sunil Thomas


    April 26, 2013 at 9:15 pm |
  14. Bubbly

    The first half of the article say prosecution is not much. Second half say where there was persecution it was brutal. But by any standard, it is bad enough.

    Lets not rewrite history.

    April 26, 2013 at 8:15 am |
  15. m123

    Her next book will be on how the Halocaust was not only a fabrication, but "great fun" for the Jews who were treated to special "summer camps" from which they never returned.

    This woman is an idiot.

    April 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Did you even read the article?

      April 23, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • Science

      m123...............Or the comments ?

      Surprising New Function for Small RNAs in Evolution.........time to pound sand maybe ?

      Apr. 19, 2013 — An international research team in including Christian Schlötterer and Alistair McGregor of the Vetmeduni Vienna has discovered a completely new mechanism by which evolution can change the appearance of an organism. The researchers found that the number of hairs on flies' legs varies according to the level of activity of a so-called microRNA.


      April 25, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
  16. Agnostic Front

    So many words to describe a fiction book. I am still amazed that so many people find a hiding place in any religious faith. Think of how much could be achieved if we stopped arguing about, killing over, and hiding from responsibility in so many imaginary friends.

    If this god, or any god, were actually real, it would be our arch enemy...our greatest threat. For what else would be so cruel, if it had the power to change it, to let go on what we see every day? I go to the agnostic/atheist logic argument:

    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

    and this one:

    We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

    April 23, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • Science

      No god(s) needed................... Old. DNA works..................also catches crooks !

      Ancient DNA Reveals Europe's Dynamic Genetic History

      Apr. 23, 2013 — Ancient DNA recovered from a series of skeletons in central Germany up to 7,500 years old has been used to reconstruct the first detailed genetic history of modern Europe.


      April 23, 2013 at 7:48 pm |
    • faith


      April 23, 2013 at 10:56 pm |
    • Science

      Hey faith..............how has the ride on the reading railroad been working ?

      April 24, 2013 at 6:56 am |
    • Science

      Hey Atheism is a form of SEVERE mental illness......................have you heard of laws of association ?

      Well if you have not your religion gets to claim the devils cult ..................does it not ?

      April 25, 2013 at 6:22 am |
    • faith

      "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." what mistakes?

      May 4, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
  17. Stephen Hawking is an Idiot


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      April 23, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
  18. Phaerisee

    If you follow Christ you are eventually going to be persecuted. Jesus said so. It is part of the package.

    April 23, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
    • sam stone

      If you follow Christ, you will preach to and annoy those who feel differently. it's part of the package

      April 23, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • sam stone

      yeah, christians are sooo persecuted

      April 23, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
    • Free Man

      There are two replies to your statement that make your point for you.

      April 23, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
    • sam stone

      how so, free man?

      April 23, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • Telemarketer

      If you sell stuff over the phone you are eventually going to be persecuted. Jesus, my manager said so. It is part of the package.

      April 23, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
  19. biggles

    Weeping and gnashing of teeth

    April 23, 2013 at 1:03 am |
    • faith

      men will beg god to kill them

      and they won't be able to die

      April 23, 2013 at 1:45 am |
    • faith

      "How do you know me?" Nathanael asked. Jesus answered, "I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you."

      April 23, 2013 at 1:53 am |
    • faith

      if they persecuted me, they will persecute you

      you are not above your master

      April 23, 2013 at 1:53 am |
    • faith

      Some men brought to him a paralyzed man, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, "Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven."

      At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, "This fellow is blaspheming!"

      Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?

      Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'?

      April 23, 2013 at 1:58 am |
    • faith

      "I have no husband," she replied.

      Jesus said to her, "You are right when you say you have no husband. The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true."

      "Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."

      "Woman," Jesus replied, "believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth."

      The woman said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us."

      Then Jesus declared, "I, the one speaking to you–I am he."

      April 23, 2013 at 2:12 am |
    • Science

      The 2 that are in denial biggles and faith.................together again ?

      April 23, 2013 at 6:40 am |
    • Science

      Was the bible around back then ? still weeping faith ?

      Human Y Chromosome Much Older Than Previously Thought

      Mar. 4, 2013 — The discovery and analysis of an extremely rare African American Y chromosome pushes back the time of the most recent common ancestor for the Y chromosome lineage tree to 338,000 years ago. This time predates the age of the oldest known anatomically modern human fossils.


      No god(s) needed or required to graduate from public schools in the US

      April 23, 2013 at 8:15 am |
  20. From me

    I have never been offended or angered by Christianity. Bored to tears a few times but never offended.

    April 23, 2013 at 12:53 am |
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