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April 2nd, 2013
10:34 AM ET

Pope embraces disabled boy on Easter

(CNN)–A mother who was with her husband and five children in St. Peter's Square for the holiday helped lift her young son with cerebral palsy, Dominic, into the arms of Pope Francis for a blessing after Easter Mass. Christiana Gondreau describes the touching moment to CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

"There was not a dry eye around us. It was really, really moving," she says. "Not in a million years, really, did I expect to end the Easter Sunday Mass with a kiss from the pope. It was very beautiful."

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  1. Hindu

    Atheists in numbers here displaying their hatred, anger and perversion – trying to interpret this kind act of love through their dirty minds. But I am not surprised – they themselves prove that the fruit of atheism is anger, hatred and cynicism of all goodness and love in humankind. The examples are right here for all to see.

    April 2, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Hindu

      You truly are a pathetic little troll aren't you?

      April 4, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
  2. No Pope Needed

    ‘Jesus said everyone could do what he had been doing. He said together we could all do even greater [things] than he had [done]. So we had better all get on and do it.’

    April 2, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • No Pope Needed

      it’s anti the gospel. In the Old Testament you had a few special people like judges or kings or prophets. In the New Testament God said, ‘I will pour my Spirit out on all flesh.’ So, the more you put one person on a pedestal, the more people think there’s a special anointing or something, which is not true, and it actually makes the Church go backwards and not forwards.

      We’re not going to reach the ends of the earth if we’re relying on a few specially anointed or gifted people. The good news is that the job was given to every ordinary, weak kind of person. Now, why he did it that way, I don’t know. It seems an awful risk, but that’s the way he chose.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
    • Sam Yaza

      not to mention worshiping a human or a Demi-God is Idolatry and its a clear sign that your in a cult,...

      ....wait wasn't Jesus a human or a Demi-God

      April 2, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
    • No Pope Needed

      He was fully and 100% human.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • Hindu

      @No Pope Needed

      So what are you waiting for? When are you going to start doing what Jesus did and what the Pope is doing?

      April 2, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • No Pope Needed

      Tonight. 8pm.

      April 2, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
  3. Hindu

    Athiests in numbers here displaying their hatred, anger and perversion - trying to interpret this kind act of love through their dirty minds. But I am not surprised - they themselves prove that the fruit of atheism is anger, hatred and cynicism of all goodness and love in humankind. The examples are right here to see.

    April 2, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • Akira

      Captain Sweeping Generalizations has landed on the BB. Yay.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • Puppies and Kittens Taste Delicious When Cooked Properly

      Please review the current statistics of prison populations, specifically the percentages of christians to atheists. Then come back so we can discuss morality. Thank you in advance.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Puppies – Given there is only .2% of the population overall that are atheist, is your argument even valid? Perhaps the question should be, are there more than .2% of criminals locked up and in prison that are atheist or less than that.

      April 4, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SPA

      The most recent polls completely contradict your moronic 0.2% general population claim.

      April 4, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Hawaii – The point being made was to suggest that must criminals locked up were in fact Christian. The actual statistic is irrelevant the point is that any sampling made would favor the hypothesis because the amount of atheists as a percentage of the overall population is statiscally insignificant. This isn't a knock on atheists but pointing out a flaw in the analysis presented.

      April 4, 2013 at 3:57 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SPA

      Really, and how do you define statistically insignificant? Not to mention that comment is incredibly condescending.
      Let's also not forget the standard rhetoric of religion making a person good and no religion leading to evil, Nazism, euthanasia, etc.

      April 4, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
  4. derp

    "There was not a dry eye around us. It was really, really moving," she says. "Not in a million years, really, did I expect to end the Easter Sunday Mass with a kiss from the pope. It was very beautiful."

    Wouldn't it make more sense for the pope to wave his magic pope stick and just cure the kid. Wouldn't that be better than giving him some tongue?

    April 2, 2013 at 3:45 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Kind of hard to hate on such a pure expression of hope and love on Easter Sunday but good job, you nailed it

      April 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bill

      Yes yes we all know you think that the pope and church can do no wrong and should never be ciriticized ever.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. C'mon Billy. forgive those that trespass against you, us heathens on the other hand give back more than we take, no turn the other cheek. Mind you is that exactly what the RCC has been doing for 1900 years, taking more than they give. Christians are so unlike christ; he did not get to count up the cash and pledges, how much Billy?

      April 2, 2013 at 4:38 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      You misunderstand hawaii. I would never maintain the Church is error free. My arguments center around separating the errors of individuals (many) from the errors of the Church (not as many) and clarifying the straw men and misunderstandings people have constructed against the church. As I like to say "Hate us if you will but at least hate us for what we are not what you think we are". In your case old friend, I would still like to see you lay down your anger towards the Church and re-enter the communion for your good and the good of us all.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bill

      I am not your friend, and I am not a Catholic anymore, no matter how many times you want to toss that out. So stop now. I've told you to stop before, yet you continue on.
      As for you not saying the church is error free, how about your constant avoidance of the papal order to not report molestation to the proper authorities under threat of ex-communication?
      You continue to claim that everyone who criticizes the church has something wrong, yet you never actually provide any backing for that statement. Do you really think that just spewing out that people are wrong over and over makes you right?

      April 2, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      hawaiiguesr
      I actually use Bill's opinion that once baptised and confirmed as a catholic you are always a catholic whether lapsed or excommunicated you are still one of the flock. This of course helps when the nutters say Hitler and Mussolini were both atheists, yet both were confirmed into the RCC. I am with you if you reject the label no one should force it on you but Bill is beyond anything but the dogma.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      It is simply the way it is. Once baptized a Catholic always a Catholic. You knew that when you confirmed. You can be lapsed and even ex-communicated but unless you die rejecting God, the Church will always invite you to repentance and reconciliation. That is why I call you friend, certainly not for your verbal abuses.

      As to the letters from the Vatican regarding the abuse scandal; I've read them. While they seem abhorrent, my only comment on them has been that, given the psychology of the events and times, it is understandable that a strategy was adopted like that. It is repeated time and time again in any number of other situations and rarely serves in the long run. Bad form, certainly, bad strategy, assuredly, illegal, probably not, understandable, of course.

      My other comments regarding abuse of children are requests for data to show the incident rates of abuse in the Church relative to other large organizations. No one wants to post those because that would eviscerate the tag line that the Church is responsible for the majority of abuses.

      Further, if you Hawaii, are such a good person as you claim, how dare you abandon your home, church and family (Catholics are all one) so that the criminals had open door to our children. You and those like you who got angry or worse, refused the teachings out of sin, are culpable because the Church needs good people to take the ministries and do the work. When you left, the pedos came. Shame on you for abandoning mother Church.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:43 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. Interesting how so many of you christians jump to the word hate. I do not think I have ever "hated" any individual. Can I hate what they believe in or stand for, even that is too strong a word. I can hold in contempt those that deny what they were (their history) and the crimes they are willing to cover up in the present whether a religion, dictator, armed forces, police force, secret service. etc. I do not hate Bill Deacon, I just feel very sorry for you and hope your belief system disappears after the likes of you are done groveling.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bill

      Wow. So instead of actually holding the people responsible for covering up molestation of children, and then downplaying it because it's not a certain percentage of priests, you then try to lay the blame on me for leaving the church for what you think the reason is. Like I've said before, you know almost nothing of my past, and the more you try to assume, the more of a dumbass you make yourself look. You're such a pathetic coward it would be pitiable if you weren't such an immoral pile of shit as well.
      Why the fuck aren't you doing something about the shuffling around of child molesting priests? Oh that's right, you think it's understandable. After all, who wants molesters to be held accountable for the damage they do, and besides, the poll you constantly reference is only a small percentage right? It's just that pesky fact that the poll you reference is only citing SELF ADMITTED CASES, which makes it highly suspect, and unable to be used as a total picture of the prevalence.

      April 2, 2013 at 8:37 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Wow. All this expressed anger towards a Pope and the Church because he decided to express a loving gesture to one of God's children. If your pope Obama were to hug Lady Gaga or Madonna, then you'd all be kissing his feet.

      April 4, 2013 at 2:39 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SPA

      Trying not being a fucking moron, then post again, this time with something relevant.

      April 4, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Hawaiiguest – I believe my post was relevant because your response was what it always is... Anger emphasized with the F word because that's all you have to offer isn't it?

      April 4, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SPA

      So you focus on a single word, decide that you're going to feel self-righteous indignation because it's "naughty", and not actually answer the post. You know, you're even worse than Bill. At least he has the balls to try and be dishonest, you just use a sense of superiority to which you feel you don't need to deign to answer a post directly.

      April 4, 2013 at 3:14 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Hawaii, if you want to me to be honest i will. Let's review. My orinal post was not even directed at you although you chose to offer an unsolicited response to which I respond. You then call me self righteous for responding to your unsolicited response. Am I making sense?

      April 4, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @SPA

      So you claim it wasn't for me, yet you chose to put the post in a specific thread, instead of actually making a new one. Your post had nothing to do with what was going on in the thread, and without a specific "@", the most reasonable conclusion is a response to the post immediately preceding.

      April 4, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
  5. Joe Smith

    It is appalling that people are attacking the pope and making stupid comments. THis was a touching moment and you can see the smile on the child's face. I worked with disabled adults and they are much more aware than what people would think and I can tell this boy knew this was special. Why knock something like this down? I am not overly religious but it seems most of the people sitting here typing these posts are losers sitting in front of a computer angry at their pathetic lives

    April 2, 2013 at 3:42 pm |
    • Lee

      It is appalling that people are attacking the pope and making stupid comments. THis was a touching moment and you can see the smile on the child's face. I worked with disabled adults and they are much more aware than what people would think and I can tell this boy knew this was special. Why knock something like this down? I am not overly religious but it seems most of the people sitting here typing these posts are losers sitting in front of a computer angry at their pathetic lives

      What's actually appalling is the amount of money the RCC gets to make off the fools like you who willingly give these old white men money.
      The child is smiling because he's impressionable and naive.
      Of course disabled people are "aware"....this boy was crippled physically, not mentally. Although your post leads me to believe you might have a mental handicap.
      I am not angry. I am appalled that these old men yield considerable power over vast populations. They, in effect, become the majority and decide what all of you willingly fools believe. It's sad and horrifying. Christianity is not even a white religion, it's a middle eastern jewish religion made up in the desert 2,000 years ago to control the stupid masses. That is it.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
    • A Conversation

      Lee advises: "I am not angry". Lee, no one is buying that. No one can employ as much vitriol as you have here today and not be angry. Now, lets see if I've poked a bear, or if Lee can be contrite. Jimmy, what are the odds?

      April 2, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
  6. End Religion

    It might have been good for a laugh if the Pope had shoved his arm up the kid's butt and worked him like a puppet. I mean, since neither he nor his weakling god can actually heal the kid he might need the distraction.

    April 2, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      And to think, people find atheists bitter.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:41 pm |
  7. Wallabee Bob, Polka King of West Elko

    This Pope is really into ostentatious display.

    My apologies to religious people for using a big word. This will help you:

    "Ostentatious: marked by or fond of conspicuous or vainglorious and sometimes pretentious display"

    April 2, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Ostentatious? You mean like "Wallabee Bob, Polka King of West Elko" ostentatious?

      April 2, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • Wallabee Bob, Polka King of West Elko

      No Billy, that would be another big word called "facetious." I know those long words confuse people who are dazzled by ancient superstitions, but with a little practice you can transcend your monosyllabic disabilities.

      April 2, 2013 at 6:27 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      WBPKWE
      Do not confuse Billy. He still does not realize that the eucharist is a form of ritualistic cannibalism. Got to love the pagan nonsense that made it into the RCC dogma.

      April 2, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
  8. Thurston Howell III

    The Pope is randomly grabbing little boys out of the crowd for a quickie "hug"?

    Just too funny!

    April 2, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
  9. Reality

    Dear Francis I,

    Why your new job is short-lived:

    The Apostles' / Agnostics’ Creed 2013 (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

    Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
    and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
    human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

    I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
    preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
    named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
    girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

    Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
    the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

    He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
    a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
    Jerusalem.

    Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
    many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
    ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
    Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
    grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
    and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
    called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

    Amen
    (References used are available upon request.)

    April 2, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
  10. derp

    Guy who rides in a bullet proof car because god can't stop bullets picks up a kid that has a disability that god can't fix, and we are somehow supposed tom be in awe of the amazing all powerful super dude upstairs.

    You can't make this kind of stupid up.

    April 2, 2013 at 2:25 pm |
    • TCS

      Did you see the car? It was open top. You right derp, you really can't make up stupid.

      April 2, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
    • Thurston Howell III

      Open top does make it a lot easier to grab children out of the crowd without warning.

      April 2, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • derp

      "Did you see the car? It was open top. You right derp, you really can't make up stupid"

      I didn't say anything about it being open or closed. I said the pope rides in a bullet proof car. Which he does. He rides in bullet proof Mercedes. Sometimes they open it up. Sometimes they don't.

      Why does god's antenna here on earth need a bullet proof car?

      It's because god is too weak to stop bullets from hitting his right hand man.

      Why is the little kid in the picture disabled in spite of what I am sure have been countless prayers to heal him.

      Because god is not powerful enough to heal him.

      No other possible reasons.

      April 2, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Derp, The problem is you think the boy needs to be fixed. Perhaps he's perfectly created as God intended and you're the one that needs fixing.

      April 4, 2013 at 2:43 pm |
    • Bill

      Kid has cerebral palsy. If that is hoiw god created him, then god fvcked up. Not so perfect after all I guess.

      April 4, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Bill, If you believe that God made a mistake with this young boy then where do you draw the line on what is a mistake and what is intentional? I know of no human being that was created perfect and without serious flaws other than Christ himself. is the value of a human life determined based upon their physical and mental capabilities?

      April 5, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
  11. Ed

    RCC leaders embracing kids is generally something to watch out for.

    April 2, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
  12. Alias

    @A Conversation
    They can't 'open the books'. There are too many books and it would be even worse for them than it is now.
    Catholics need their denial, don't take that away from them!

    April 2, 2013 at 12:51 pm |
  13. Puppies and Kittens Taste Delicious When Cooked Properly

    This is nothing new. It is not unusual for leaders in the catholic organization to seek out the most defenseless to impose their "affection."

    April 2, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
  14. stephenayers42

    Good Christianity right there..

    April 2, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
  15. SAAB

    that was a very nice heart touching act by Pope

    April 2, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
    • derp

      I don't think it was the boys heart he was touching.

      April 2, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Derp, perhaps the Pope, like Christ, sees a child of God differently. Perhaps he ignores the brokeness of his body but sees his pure and beautiful soul? Because when he looks at a human soul, he sees God himself. You on the other hand only see hate and darkness it seems.

      April 4, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Bill

      "Derp, perhaps the Pope, like Christ, sees a child of God differently."

      Or perhaps, like so many other catholic clergy, he just wants to cop a feel.

      April 4, 2013 at 4:24 pm |
  16. Francisco

    Looking at the pope like he's some kind of deity is crazy. If the pope really wants to help this disabled child why don't he take the savings and give the money to research .

    April 2, 2013 at 11:54 am |
    • derp

      Or he could just pray for god to cure him.

      Except that praying doesn't work.

      April 2, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      The disabled are much closer to heaven that any of us that sit in judgement. Don't have pity on them because they are the ones that will be at the front of the line of eternal life. The true source of life for that young boy is his soul. That's what God sees and it is innocent, pure and beautiful because it cannot be corrupted.

      April 4, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @SPA Knight
      That isn't at all what the Bible says.

      "Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. ... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries."

      April 4, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • SPA Knight

      Doc, you can't be serious with this? In those days, people believe that those with defects and deformaties were that way because of their sins. This is why Jesus responded the way he did when the paralytic man was dropped down from the roof. He said And suddenly some people brought him a paralytic stretched out on a bed. Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralytic, 'Take comfort, my child, your sins are forgiven.' then he said But to prove to you that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins,' - then he said to the paralytic-'get up, pick up your bed and go off home.'

      --------------------------–

      April 5, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
  17. Reality

    If there were a god, said child would not be afflicted !!!

    April 2, 2013 at 11:42 am |
    • A Conversation

      Please go back to cutting & pasting, as it is apparent that your original thoughts are even more exasperating.

      April 2, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
    • Reality

      Only for the new members of this blog:

      The Apostles' Creed 2013 (updated by yours truly based on the studies of NT historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven?????

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
      ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (References used are available upon request.)

      April 2, 2013 at 2:49 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Conversation was right

      April 2, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll.

      April 2, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
  18. Topher

    Well of course that poor child is still sick. The pope is just a man, not Christ

    April 2, 2013 at 11:29 am |
    • HotAirAce

      You are making progress as a human – you didn't try to defend protecting child molesters.

      April 2, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • HotAirAce

      With a little work, and help from your atheist friends and competent mental health professionals, you should be able to escape the christian dead jew zombie cult soon.

      April 2, 2013 at 11:45 am |
    • Topher

      Good thing I'm not in one of those.

      April 2, 2013 at 11:49 am |
    • Lee

      Just a man? I thought he was the point of contact with the hebrew god??! Isn't he living tangible proof that your your sky god exists, because he has a secure definitive relationship with some magical force that favors straight white males and hates women, people of color, and gays? Right? Because some old Jewish men in desert wrote that down? Right?

      April 2, 2013 at 12:40 pm |
    • Topher

      According to the Catholics. I'm not Catholic. And they have no Biblical support.

      April 2, 2013 at 1:29 pm |
    • Lola Bunch

      Politicians hug and kiss children, too. So?

      April 2, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Sorry Lee, everything you posted about the pope and Catholicism is incorrect. You are either woefully ignorant to the point education has failed you immeasurably or you are guilty of hating us based on your own straw man construction, which is still pretty ignorant.

      Topher, if you believe that is what Catholics think, I would hope you might educate yourself as well. I actually trust you to do so since you seem to be a genuine person.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:36 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bill

      You always claim people are wrong about a number of things, yet you rarely, if ever, actually provide a refutation. Here's a tip, provide some backing for your claims, or continue to show how religion damages the mind.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. Do educate us on the dogma, Bill, the catechism and confession, antiquities can be quite boring.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:45 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      The pope is the Bishop of Rome. He is first among equals of all Bishops. He is the pastor of the Church and the head of the Vatican city-state. He doesn't have magic powers, doesn't provide any sort of bridge or doorway to heaven or God. He is a servant, charged with the preservation and proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He is chosen by a process from amongst his peers with no more qualification than that he be an unmarried baptized Catholic man whom the majority of Cardinals trust, by his faith, his character and his devotion to Christ and to the Church to lead the faithful for the duration of his see. Any holiness he attains is by the mercy of God and that despite his identiity as a sinner in need of salvation by grace. People respect the pope because of the service he renders and the hope he portrays to the world. Typically, in the modern era, the pope is also well educated, traveled, multilingual, politically adept and socially aware which makes him a formidable ally, or opponent depending on ones perspective.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Bill

      yes what a lovely pile of assertions you have there. Now do you have any backing to show that it's true? Do you not subscribe to the infallibility doctrine that has been tradition for centuries? Would every single confirmed catholic agree 100% with everything you said? I doubt it.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. Boring but I managed to get through it all. Of course you are describing a hierarchical semi-despotic system in which the aristocracy (the princes of the church) get to chose the new leader with little input from the laity. I think that is one of the things that turns me off most about the RCC, be obedient or be gone, that is while you all will lose in the long run.

      PS: probably did not express this as well as I could, but Bill can interpret the bible so should be OK with this.

      April 2, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @BIll Deacon
      Except, of course, on those occassions when The Pope receives a message directly from God and makes an ex-cathedra announcmenet – then he is speaking as God's conduit to mankind.

      And he can indeed be a powerful ally.
      Hitler and Mussolini counted the Pope amongst their allies.

      Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.”
      – Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party

      "The fact that the Curia is now making its peace with Fascism shows that the Vatican trusts the new political realities far more than did the former liberal democracy with which it could not come to terms. ...The fact that the Catholic Church has come to an agreement with Fascist Italy ...proves beyond doubt that the Fascist world of ideas is closer to Christianity than those of Jewish liberalism or even atheistic Marxism..."
      – Adolf Hitler in an article in the Völkischer Beobachter, February 29, 1929, on the new Lateran Treaty between Mussolini's fascist government and the Vatican

      April 4, 2013 at 4:32 pm |
  19. HotAirAce

    Late breaking news!

    The boy is still sick and Pope-A-Dope is still hiding child molestors.

    Oh, that's not news. . .

    April 2, 2013 at 11:23 am |
  20. Lee

    Wow, a kiss from the pope and your child is still crippled. They forget the part where she goes home with her son to live in abject poverty while the pope drives up to his Castle, I mean Church, and eats until his fat belly is ripe and goes to sleep in his California King with white satin sheets.

    April 2, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • A Conversation

      Lee...I'm not Catholic, so the value of having a Pope is of limited use to me, but your desire to defame him (for reasons I am unsure) is really sad. Every article I've read about this man indicates that he is humble and had lived to this point, a very simple life. But, being the good person you are, I'm sure you'll locate this woman who you know to be living in abject poverty and will offer her some money....right?

      April 2, 2013 at 11:19 am |
    • The Demon Deacon

      A Conversation that sounds like Bill Deacon
      Franky is a huge improvement on the Ratzinger and I hope he has someone to cover his back with all the intrigue among the princes or the church. Still the proof will come if he opens the books and turns over the secret docu-ments to the authorities, time will tell.

      April 2, 2013 at 11:34 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      In other words the demon will judge pope as he pleases while the some of the rest of us observe and learn from this great man and possibly try to follow his ministry in support

      April 2, 2013 at 12:26 pm |
    • A Conversation

      @Demon...my response was simply addressed to Lee who apparently had nothing better to do this morning than stretch the truth. However, I will agree with you that he absolutely should, as you put it, "open the books," which would be a tremendous step toward healing and reconciliation–Christianity (and I include the Catholic church here) should not hide anything–we're not scientologists–every thing needs to be out in the open.

      April 2, 2013 at 12:38 pm |
    • Lee

      @A Conversation
      I did not strecth the truth. It ain't the fault of the current pope the Church is so corrupted. It's the fault of people giving these old men tons of money to go preach to people who don't know any better, instead of investing in modern medicines, mental health, food, clean water for all.
      This religion is a joke and I PRAY in at least a couple of hundred years a 2,000 year old sky god from the middle east, made up by cantankerous jews in an attempt to control their people and increase life expectancy, can be disproven.
      You're all fools, Amen to that.

      April 2, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      A Conversation
      My apology for comparing you to Bill. You are not an apologist for the RCC and you would like to see an open policy for the Christian religions, I think we all would, a breath of fresh air.

      April 2, 2013 at 12:49 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. So far, I have nothing but admiration for Franky and his actions. It will be the actions he takes to clean up the reputation of the church that I and others will judge him on, so far so good. About his ministry, I could not give a good god damn about it, the sooner the RCC fails the better. BTW you have not let me know how big the easter take was at your clip joint, be open now, Billy, share with the rest of the world, try.

      April 2, 2013 at 12:59 pm |
    • A Conversation

      Lee...(1) give me the evidence (see what I did there...took a page out of the atheists book) that the woman you refer to lives in abject poverty; and (2) give me the evidence that the Pope "eats until his fat belly is ripe and goes to sleep in his California King with white satin sheets" (From what I can see, he appears to be in pretty good shape for a man his age.)

      April 2, 2013 at 1:07 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. As a deacon I just assumed you spent the long weekend in the counting room tallying up the take, I could be wrong? BTW Bill, yes I will wait and see what actions Franky will take and judge him on those actions as opposed to what you do. No matter who was voted in as the new pope you would have prostrated yourself, slithered along on your belly, kissed the new vicar of christ on earth's feet and the kissed his ring if allowed too, HALLELUJAH.

      April 2, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
    • Lee

      @A Conversation
      There's no evidence of either. I made a couple of broad assumptions based on:
      A. The RCC's incredible wealth from millions of sheeple who honestly believe in eternal life through death (what a convenient promise to make)
      B. The lady is clearly ignornant to still believe in an archaic religion, so she's probably not well educated. If she's not well educated and living in/around Italy (another broad assumption but who takes a cripple kid across the world just to get kissed by an old man?!) she's living in poverty.

      They were assumptions, I'll give you that. But to imply the opposite is true (The women is rich?! and/or the Pope is living in poverty) is completely absurd. She is most likely low-income, and compared to her standard of living, I feel the pope is living a in castle in a king size bed. None of these statements may be "provable" but their more likely than a wealth women letting an old men kiss her disabled child or a Pope of the RCC living like a commoner. Isn't this stuff obvious to everyone??

      April 2, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
    • A Conversation

      Lee...thank you for your clarification...I think. Now to your assumptions-WOW OH WOW are those unfounded!!!!! She believes in God so (1) "she's probably not well educated" Holy Smokes! O.k. I've got a JD–so that disproves your point right off the bat. Assumption 2–she lives in Italy (because no Catholic would dare think of making their version of a pilgrimage right?). Assumption 3–no education and living in Italy = poverty...that's just dumb. Please stop...it hurts.

      April 2, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
    • Lee

      @A Conversation
      1. I never said "believes in God". I said Archaic religion which was obviously Christianity. If she blindly believes in in a middle eastern religion meant to control a specific sect of people (Jewish) simply because an old book and years of indoctrination tell her to, then yes she is not well educated/an idiot.
      You're a lawyer? And I'm supposed to think your well educated? Because you took, yet another man made insitution, memorized the rules (the "law of the land") and can articulate this to a random stranger (the judge), who decides if your intepretation is correct? Very impressive, little sheeple, very impressive...
      & actually honey, if you want to put all your stock in man-made laws, rules, books that some old white men made up one day GOOD FOR YOU. It doesn't make you intelligent to follow their rules lol And this isn't Mecca, biatch so NO, no one except mentally retarded Christians are making pilgrimages to the Vatican to swap spit with the Pope.

      And I'm sorry assumptions hurt your head so much....how do you deal with the real headache of a corrupt criminal justice system or an equally corrupt religion you willingly give money to...every month? Every week...every day? Just how dumb are you?

      April 2, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • A Conversation

      Lee...assumptions, generally don't hurt my head...but your assumptions, specifically, hurt my head. "Just how dumb are you"? I guess dumb enough to have engaged in a debate with you...you and your assumptions are just so much smarter than I–thank you for the lesson.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:04 pm |
    • Another Thought For You

      @Lee

      Actually, I think we're all a little dumber for having read your posts today.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
    • Lee

      @A Conversation

      Did not thinking or responding with blanket statements hurt your head? Because I don't consider making valid points and assumptions (which are possible if you use common sense) that are followed by a simple "that's just dumb", a debate. Saying someone's opinion is dumb and not following up as to WHY their opinion is dumb or even offering a viable solution as to what their saying IS DUMB. Which you, thankfully, acknowledge. And you're welcome for the lesson, but you're still dumb as dirt. 😦

      @another thought for you....well thanks! I'm glad reading valid points that contradict your idiotic faith actually lower your IQ. Because when you believe in angels, talking to invisible monsters/snakes, and literal ressurections, your IQ surely increases. Stay away from college and any basic understanding of history....it will make you much dumber than you already are! 🙂

      April 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm |
    • A Conversation

      O.k., I'll play along. You said...and this is entirely in context..."If she's not well educated and living in/around Italy...she's living in poverty." Please explain to all of us how that is not a dumb statement. Explain to us all how the combination of "not well educated" and "living in/around Italy" must mean that she is "living in poverty." If you keep making these assumptions, your going to find yourself unemployed and living in Greenland!

      April 2, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Our take for Easter this year was five baptized adults, one baptized new born, thirty two young adult confirmations and thirteen older adults. Alleluia! Alleluia!

      April 2, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • Another Thought For You

      Inconceivable!

      April 2, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      The family is from Rhode Island, traveling to Italy for Easter at the Vatican. I suspect poverty of finance is not their issue. Pope Francis has already begun conversations in which he decries the spiritual poverty of the west though, so I suspect there are those here on the blog who are still more impoverished than the little boy with palsy and the old man thrust onto the world stage

      April 2, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. Bill, brainwashing is alive and well, too bad.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:48 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. I agree you and your lot got lucky when Franky got elected. The thing is Bill you know in your heart you would have kissed the ass of whomever was elected. Did you make a small wager on Dolan?

      April 2, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Just googled Christiana Gondreau. Self employed, independent consultant, college educated, quite attractive. So fail Lee. now go away please.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      I wanted Schoenbeck, based on what I knew . But I think the conclave made the right choice. No you and all the other haters may get a chance to stand in awe as the Church teaches the world how to navigate the treacherous waters of global world order.

      April 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      Bill Deacon
      Is irrelevant. Billy is an obsequious papal apologist troll. I will stand in awe of the RCC when Franky can get all the princes of the church to adopt his humble life style and use the wealth of the church for those in real need. That includes allowing the abolishment of celibacy, providing contraception and abortion of unwanted children, remember Billy these are RCC dogma not biblical commands.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
    • The Demon Deacon

      My bad unwanted fetus, not children, could get jumped all over that slip. Of course only early term pregnancies, much like the so called god does when creating miscarriages.

      April 2, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Yeah, I think you've shone your colors

      April 2, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
    • Lee

      "Bill Deacon
      Just googled Christiana Gondreau. Self employed, independent consultant, college educated, quite attractive. So fail Lee. now go away please."

      Bill, you are creepy with the attractive bit. And not to be mean to total strangers, but it's bachelors of arts degree and 19+ years of homemaking in there so let's not overstate things.
      So maybe she's not living in poverty in Italy, but comparing her wealth to the wealth of Church....the reasoning still stands. A contrite act by the representative of a billion dollar enterprise won't heal any kids, but may just restore the denial Christians felt was slipping from their grasps. And honestly Bill Deacon I was very open to the fact I made broad assumptions but your constant attacks and nitpicking is evidence you're self conscious about your ridiculous middle-eastern rooted faith and the fact your probably over 30 years old and have wasted every essence of your being on a belief created by rich old men so they could harm little children in private. Shame on you!

      April 2, 2013 at 7:26 pm |
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