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Opinion: Don't scapegoat a faith for bombings
A Muslim woman attends an interfaith vigil for September 11 victims in Boston last fall.
April 21st, 2013
08:36 PM ET

Opinion: Don't scapegoat a faith for bombings

Editor's note: Farhana Khera is the president and executive director of Muslim Advocates, a national legal advocacy organization dedicated to promoting freedom, justice and equality for all, regardless of faith.

By Farhana Khera, Special to CNN

(CNN) - Like so many Americans across the country, I was shocked when I heard of the attacks at the Boston Marathon. A part of me immediately traveled back to when I was cheering runners myself as a student at Wellesley College, the midpoint for the marathon, a time when such dangers as bombings never crossed our minds.

Boston is an indelible part in the personal history and identity of those who have lived or attended school in the city. That someone had detonated bombs at an event that symbolized unity in a place known for its rich diversity and as a birthplace of our nation's freedom was heartbreaking.

FULL COMMENTARY
- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Islam • Massachusetts • Opinion • Violence

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  1. William Demuth

    Science does not create morals?

    Swain, it replaces them.

    Morals are arbitrary. Science is not

    Fact is fact, and religion is fiction

    April 23, 2013 at 11:48 am |
    • ME II

      @William Demuth,
      Not sure if you were saying this but science does not replace ethics. It may inform those exploring ethics, but ethics is not a domain of science.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Human morality replaced by science....oh boy. Now won't that be a brave new world to live and die in?

      April 23, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • Russ

      @ William Demuth: ok, just for fun... on what basis does science tell us what is good or evil?

      April 23, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
    • A Conversation

      Mr. D–I think we'd all really like you to answer that the question posed by Russ above.

      April 23, 2013 at 12:42 pm |
    • Benedict Neapolitano Smith

      Russ is a stupid twit who can't figure anything out for himself. Best to ignore his requests.

      April 23, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
    • A Conversation

      Benedict...I don't have an opinion on whether Russ is a twit or not. Indeed the question, in light of Willy D's statements, is still valid. Perhaps you can answer for him?

      April 23, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
    • Science

      Morals ......................answer is here.

      Where do morals come from?

      By Kelly Murray, CNN

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/

      Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/12/where-do-morals-come-from/#comments

      April 23, 2013 at 9:41 pm |
    • A Conversation

      Science...read the article and it didn't answer the question. While it alluded to morals, it didn't answer good v. evil. Moreover, the "expert" really had nothing more to say other than a bunch of unfounded conclusions. Morality preceded religion? Prove it. Organized religion with its various laws and doctrines–sure. But taith in the supernatural? Hard sell.

      Science (the concept–not you) does not answer every question. It can't. To suggest otherwise is as dogmatic and fundamentalist as one can get.

      April 24, 2013 at 10:33 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Conversation
      Morality not only preceded religion, but does not require religion in the slightest. Actually much of relgion is immoral.

      Animals show compassion, sharing, co-operation. Many will help those in need, even when they are not in their group, or sometimes not even the same species. Even ants will rescue their own from danger or when trapped. Rats will not only render assistance to strange rats, but share food and water with them.
      We are evolved from social animals, we consider these things moral because it is literally in the DNA, and has evolved that way.

      April 24, 2013 at 10:47 am |
    • Science

      Read the comments too and find out conv.

      They sure did not come from a fairy in the sky !

      Ancient DNA Reveals Europe's Dynamic Genetic History

      Apr. 23, 2013 — Ancient DNA recovered from a series of skeletons in central Germany up to 7,500 years old has been used to reconstruct the first detailed genetic history of modern Europe.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130423134037.htm

      April 24, 2013 at 10:56 am |
    • A Conversation

      More conclusions and no facts. "Its in our DNA"–prove it. You guys constantly demand that we prove God exists, that we provide scientific evidence. I'm putting you to the same task...cite to me a study of DNA that proves your point that good and evil are a matter of biological evolution.

      April 24, 2013 at 11:41 am |
  2. FYI

    I THINK IT IS TIME FOR SOME TASTY BREAKFAST FOODS.

    April 23, 2013 at 11:03 am |
    • CAPS LOCK IS AN ABOMINATION

      TRY LUCKY CHARMS. I HEAR THERE IS A MAGIC SHAPE FOR TURNING OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:09 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      FYI stands for F-ing Yelling Idoit

      April 23, 2013 at 11:43 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      oops...drunk gingered it...idiot, not idoit

      April 23, 2013 at 11:44 am |
  3. Seyedibar

    We should certainly scapegoat all religions for the acts of their followers. There is not a religion on the planet that is based in truth. If people were murdering to impress Santa Claus, we would probably stop feeding children nonsense about a fat magic man at the north pole. Jesus, Muhammed, and Buddha all share one aspect with Santa: they never existed.

    April 23, 2013 at 9:46 am |
    • .

      Most historians do say that Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha existed.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:53 am |
    • FYI

      DAVID KORESH EXISTED TOO. AND HE WAS CLEARLY INSANE. SAYING SOMEONE EXISTED AMONGST SOME FAIRY TALES DOESN'T DO MUCH FOR THE CAUSE IF YOU CATCH MY DRIFT, JUNIOR. IF YOU CATCH WHAT I'M THROWING. IF YOU PICK UP WHAT I'M PUTTING DOWN. IF YOU GET ME. BUT ONLY IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:03 am |
    • .

      It pointed out that the writer was incorrect in their statement and that was all it was intended to do numbnuts.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:09 am |
    • Seyedibar

      Sorry, the last half century has weilded plenty of evidence that has once and for all demolished the origins of each of said religions. Much like Hercules or Santa, each is based on a blend of real historical folk figures, with the bulk of the story invented centuries later as a form of entertainment. You will find zero historical proof of any of them.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:18 am |
    • Huebert

      Seyedibar

      While some people dispute the existence of a historical Jesus, I have never herd of a single historian who disputed the existence of Mohammad or Buddha. In fact in the 6th century Mohammad concurred large section of the Arabian peninsula, and his successors extended the empire through Egypt and Persia, all the way up into Spain. The only religious leaders with more evidence than their existence than Mohammed are Joseph Smith and L Ron Hubbard.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:30 am |
    • FYI

      HEY DOT, I WASN'T TALKING TO YOU, GENIUS. I WAS RESPONDING TO THE ORIGINAL POST AS AN ADD-ON TO YOUR STATEMENT. OH THAT'S RIGHT, YOUR ILK ARE SO SELF-ABSORBED YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE THE CENTER OF ALL EXISTENCE AND CONVERSATION. MY MISTAKE FOR THINKING ANYONE ELSE HAD THE ABILITY TO COMMENT WITHOUT RUINING YOUR ENTIRE DECADE. OH, FORGIVE ME BABY ZEUS AND THOR AMEN.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:30 am |
    • ME II

      @Seyedibar,
      "Jesus, Muhammed, and Buddha all share one aspect with Santa: they never existed."

      This is incorrect.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:44 am |
    • Seyedibar

      This is not incorrect. None of the aforementioned figures existed.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:27 pm |
    • Huebert

      @Seyedibar

      Then who led the Muslim conquest in the 6th century, if not Mohammad?

      April 23, 2013 at 9:39 pm |
    • Saraswati

      Rabid, If you specified that "no evidence" of a "holy" Jesus, Mohammed or Buddha existed you might have a better start to a case.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:57 pm |
  4. Douglas

    Seek the real truth at http://www.gaychristian101.com
    Then to find your life partner seek them here at gaychristianmingle.com

    Amen!

    April 23, 2013 at 8:49 am |
    • Science

      Doogie the troll !

      Dover Trial Transcripts............................................. FACTS.

      Below are the complete transcripts from the Dover Trial. Thanks to our friends at the National Center for Science Education for helping us fill in the missing transcripts.

      http://www.aclupa.org/legal/legaldocket/intelligentdesigncase/dovertrialtranscripts.htm

      April 23, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • Science

      Hey doogie you might want to check where your head is at !

      Unusual Anal Fin Offers New Insight Into Evolution

      Apr. 10, 2013 — An unusual fossil fish that has fins behind its anus

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130410082201.htm

      April 23, 2013 at 10:27 am |
    • Terry

      I'm pretty sure "christianmingle.com" was already gay to begin with so no need to make a new site...

      April 23, 2013 at 11:46 am |
  5. William Demuth

    I don't condem A faith, I condemn them all.

    Religion is in itself a form of madness we have tolerated for far too long

    If we can not place science and rational thought at the front and center of our collective society, we will slaughter each other until no one is left.

    You know it's a myth, I know it's a myth, we all do, but we have been mislead into believing it is a harmless one.

    It is in fact the poison that is slowly destroying us.

    April 23, 2013 at 8:23 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "Religion is in itself a form of madness we have tolerated for far too long"

      Actually it's not. At least, you haven't shown it to be.
      And let's just chuck the whole concept of tolerance aside while we are at it. If it cannot apply to all...it should not apply to any right?

      "If we can not place science and rational thought at the front and center of our collective society, we will slaughter each other until no one is left."

      No one has shown why science would be superior to religion in regards to amn's spirituality.
      As for rational thought, being religious does not mean you cannot be rational. To imply otherwise is foolish.

      "You know it's a myth, I know it's a myth, we all do, but we have been mislead into believing it is a harmless one."

      Lol, gotta love the crazy atheist guy holding the virtual cardboard sign on the street corner.

      "It is in fact the poison that is slowly destroying us."

      And yet, after tens of thousands of years of religious thought being within man.....mankind is still here.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:39 am |
    • FYI

      WE WOULD BE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS FURTHER AHEAD TECHNOLOGICALLY IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE IMPOTENCE OF RELIGION. UNCOUTH, AS ALWAYS, TRYING TO RATIONALIZE THE CLINICALLY INSANE IRRATIONALITY OF RELIGION.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:52 am |
    • William Demuth

      Swain

      <My signs are billboards, paid for to annoy the fundies! Perhaps you have seen them?

      Yes we are still here. Starvation still kills children, war kills millions and the majority remain ignorant.

      We are sqaundering our future for a pocket full of bronze age lies.

      We let madmen tech children nonesense, and then wonder why they blow themselves up?

      Man's spirituality? That what brought us Aushwitz and Boston, the Inquisition and the Salem Witch Burnings.

      Your "Spirituality" is a joke, but a cruel one. A Joke that bleeds eight year olds to death on street corners and leaves dozens without limbs right here at home.

      Your imaginary God, or theirs, the results are the same.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:56 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Actually capslock, there is no evidence on what could have been. Your faith is unfounded as those you are critical of.

      You also fail to say why being "further ahead technologically" benefits humanity. For all you or anyone else knows, that could mean essentially cyborganic life that isn't "human" any longer.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:56 am |
    • mama k

      Uncouth, you sound like you have a fear of science by way of science fiction.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:02 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "My signs are billboards, paid for to annoy the fundies! Perhaps you have seen them?"

      I see the atheist fundies all over this place.

      "Yes we are still here. Starvation still kills children, war kills millions and the majority remain ignorant."

      Sounds like humanity to me. Science hasn't seemed to be able to save them....when will it?

      "We are sqaundering our future for a pocket full of bronze age lies."

      Doubtful, our future continues on...regardless of faith.

      "We let madmen tech children nonesense, and then wonder why they blow themselves up?"

      Yeah, that engineering nonsense they were taught should be stopped.

      "Man's spirituality? That what brought us Aushwitz and Boston, the Inquisition and the Salem Witch Burnings."

      Also brought us the Civil Rights Movement, The Salvation Army...what was your point again? To use religion as scapegoat for the deeds of mankind?

      "Your "Spirituality" is a joke, but a cruel one. A Joke that bleeds eight year olds to death on street corners and leaves dozens without limbs right here at home."

      Didn't know I had my very own spirituality. I was referencing that quality within mankind.

      "Your imaginary God, or theirs, the results are the same."

      What God would that be? Did I make an issue of a peticular faith?

      April 23, 2013 at 10:02 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @mama k- Actually neither. I have a fear of humanity that embraces science with an amoral perspective.
      Remember also, submarines, rockets..etc were all "science fiction" at one time.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:05 am |
    • Honey Badger Don't Care!

      R'amen WD! Right there with you.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:09 am |
    • mama k

      Well, so probably were bridges if you go back far enough. So you say we don't need any engineers at all? Really?

      April 23, 2013 at 10:10 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      Always nice to see a person's minions come out to support them.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:11 am |
    • Science

      Hey uncoth...................chomp chomp fish is good !

      Fish Was On the Menu for Early Flying Dinosaur

      Apr. 22, 2013 — University of Alberta-led research reveals that Microraptor, a small flying dinosaur was a complete hunter, able to swoop down and pickup fish as well as its previously known prey of birds and tree dwelling mammals

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130422154925.htm

      April 23, 2013 at 10:12 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "Well, so probably were bridges if you go back far enough. So you say we don't need any engineers at all? Really?"

      Lol..my statement was merely sarcasm. Science and engineering should be taught to those that want to learn of course.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:13 am |
    • FYI

      YOU AS USUAL ARE INCORRECT UNCOUCHED.

      THE EVIDENCE THAT HUMANITY WAS HELD BACK BY RELIGION DOES IN FACT EXIST. ALGEBRA EXISTS BECAUSE OF THE MIDDLE EAST. BUT WHEN MOHUMMER OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS CAME ALONG AND STARTED HIS NEW THING, THE MIDDLE EAST'S PROGRESS GROUND TO A HALT IN FAVOR OF RELIGION. THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF RELIGION HOLDING MAN'S PROGRESS BACK. THE FACT THAT YOU SAID THERE'S NO EVIDENCE FOR WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN IS PERHAPS THE MOST USELESS STATEMENT ANYONE COULD HAVE EVER MADE IN THE EXISTENCE OF MANKIND. OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE OF THE FUTURE SINCE IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. THANKS FOR STATING THE MOST OBVIOUS OF ALL OBVIOUSNESS. PURE GENIUS.

      BUT WE WOULD BE FURTHER AHEAD IF NOT FOR RELIGION. THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS THE FACT THAT HUMANITY HAS BEEN HELD BACK. THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS THE FACT THAT PROGRESS WOULD HAVE BEEN GREATER HAD THE BELIEF IN GARBAGE NOT BEEN INTRODUCED. SCIENTISTS WERE EXECUTED FOR INTRODUCING FACTS THAT DID NOT ADHERE TO YOUR SAVIOR'S BOOK OF CRAP. THE EVIDENCE HERE STATES THAT RELIGION NOT ONLY HELD MANKIND BACK, BUT DID SO INTENTIONALLY. THANKS FOR THAT, SWAIN. THANKS A LOT. THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR ILK, WE ARE WAY BEHIND WHERE WE COULD HAVE BEEN.

      WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF CYBERORGANIC LIFE? LET ME GUESS, YOUR PARANOIA MAKES YOU THINK EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST ON THEM IF WE PROGRESS TECHNOLOGICALLY? NOTHING BUT PARANOIA AND FEAR.

      FEAR.

      IT'S WHAT YOU AND YOUR ILK HAVE FOR THINGS YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM WILL FOREVER AND ALWAYS BE, TOO PRIMITIVE TO GRASP.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:13 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "Fish Was On the Menu for Early Flying Dinosaur"

      Oookay...I'm sure you had a point of putting that little tidbit of knowledge up.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:16 am |
    • William Demuth

      Swain

      Science brings us food, religion denies it to those in need

      Science brings us medicine, religion fights it and supresses it

      Science brings us education, religion undermines it

      Science brings us properity, religion hoards it.

      These men of faith ore charlatans liars and swindlers who produce far less than they consume. Theists are parasites, and they are killing the host.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:17 am |
    • Huebert

      @Uncouth

      Until someone creates a sarcasm font most people aren't going to pick up on your sarcasm. Your sincere opinions are so crazy we can't distinguish them from your sarcastic opinions.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:20 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "THE EVIDENCE THAT HUMANITY WAS HELD BACK BY RELIGION DOES IN FACT EXIST. ALGEBRA EXISTS BECAUSE OF THE MIDDLE EAST. BUT WHEN MOHUMMER OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS CAME ALONG AND STARTED HIS NEW THING,"

      I would kindly suggest you research the history of algebra, the middle ages and Islam. I believe your time frame is skewed. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics_in_medieval_Islam)

      "OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE OF THE FUTURE SINCE IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. THANKS FOR STATING THE MOST OBVIOUS OF ALL OBVIOUSNESS. PURE GENIUS."

      Perhaps you won't make anymore ignorant statements about where we could be right now then. It seems you understand the stupidity of the statement you made but you seem more upset that I called you out on it. Oh well.

      "BUT WE WOULD BE FURTHER AHEAD IF NOT FOR RELIGION."

      Pure guesswork on your part. I could put up the argument that the societies that were religious had the infrastructure to maintain and advance the sciences. That's what happened in the Islamic Middle Ages.

      "WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF CYBERORGANIC LIFE? LET ME GUESS, YOUR PARANOIA MAKES YOU THINK EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST ON THEM IF WE PROGRESS TECHNOLOGICALLY? NOTHING BUT PARANOIA AND FEAR."

      Lol...I know there is already cyborganic life. At least that was what it was referenced as when they created a new hand for a guy that actually worked off of his nerve sending signals instead of pure muscle reaction. My gosh...who is the paranoid one? Mark of the Beast? Are you drunk?

      "IT'S WHAT YOU AND YOUR ILK HAVE FOR THINGS YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM WILL FOREVER AND ALWAYS BE, TOO PRIMITIVE TO GRASP."

      Exactly who are these "ilk"? i do believe you have no idea what you are talking about.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:29 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "Science brings us food, religion denies it to those in need"
      Hmm, haven't seen too many scientists giving out food to the needy have you?

      "Science brings us medicine, religion fights it and supresses it"
      No..though I have seen the companies that the scientists work for hold back patents on medicines for those who need them.

      "Science brings us education, religion undermines it"
      No but I have seen religious ran schools that teach science.

      "Science brings us properity, religion hoards it."
      You must not live in our society then. No evidence that scienc does anything of the kind.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:32 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Huebert- "Until someone creates a sarcasm font most people aren't going to pick up on your sarcasm. Your sincere opinions are so crazy we can't distinguish them from your sarcastic opinions."

      Perhaps you can point out what is crazy about them. I have praised science, have not made any dogmatic comments and expressed a cautious perspective about humanity. Yep..really crazy stuff in all that.
      Lol..I'm sure mama k appreciates you commenting for her.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:35 am |
    • Science

      Some backfill

      It would be NICE......... but
      Maybe they should not have created the wedge !!!
      The wedge strategy is a political and social action plan authored by the Discovery Insti-tute, the hub of the intelligent design movement. The strategy was put forth in a Discovery Insti-tute manifesto known as the Wedge Docu-ment,[1] which describes a broad social, political, and academic agenda whose ultimate goal is to defeat materialism, naturalism, evolution, and "reverse the stifling materialist world view and replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic
      convictions.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy

      April 23, 2013 at 10:38 am |
    • mama k

      WD mentions theists being parasites, and I can't help but think of some things I read and watched recently about the Aghori. It seems kind of obvious that their parasitic ways developed quite naturally as a result of the economic condition they found themselves in. Not being among the most mainstream spiritual people revered there (yet still feared and revered by some still) seems to have left them as beggars with a history of endocannibalism. You can't keep superstition afloat on much less than your next meal coming from the latest dead body floating down the river.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:38 am |
    • FYI

      LEARN HOW TO READ A BOOK. WIKIPEDIA? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS FOR THE LAUGH.

      http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9273.html READ A BOOK.

      CHRISTIANITY (YOUR CULT) DID PLENTY TO HOLD BACK THE PROGRESS TOO. READ A BOOK. TRY IT. IT'S AMAZING WHAT YOU LEARN WHEN YOU AREN'T RELYING ON WIKIPEDIA AS A "CREDIBLE" SOURCE. ANY COLLEGE PROFESSOR WOULD LAUGH IN YOUR FACE IF YOU CITED ANYTHING FROM WIKIPEDIA ON A RESEARCH PAPER. MAN, WHAT A JOKE. I CAN'T TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

      PROSTHETICS AREN'T "CYBER ORGANIC" AS YOUR FAN-FICTION SISTERS HAVE LED YOU TO BELIEVE. STOP READING THAT CRAP. WHAT YOU ARE MAKING A VERY VERY VERY SAD ATTEMPT TO TALK ABOUT IS THIS:

      http://cyber.mpnodes.info/archives/727

      WE ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE ABILITY TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ARE REACHING. YOUR ORIGINAL INEPT POST TRIED TO SAY SOMETHING INCREDIBLY MORONIC AND STUPID ABOUT NOT BEING HUMAN ANYMORE. YEAH, IT'S CALLED EVOLUTION. EVER HEARD OF IT? EVER TALK TO A REAL SCIENTIST ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF HUMAN INTEGRATION WITH ELECTRONICS, SPECIFICALLY THE IDEA OF UPLOADING OUR CONSCIOUSNESS INTO COMPUTERS? I HAVE. AND THE GENERAL BELIEF IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. EVER. THERE IS A VERY SIMPLE REASON FOR THIS, GENIUS, WHICH YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT THOUGHT OF.

      IT'S SO SIMPLE, SOMEONE THAT ISN'T RELIGIOUS WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF IT FIRST. AND THEY DID.

      IF YOU WERE TO PLUG SOMEONE INTO A COMPUTER TO "UPLOAD" THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS INTO THE SYSTEM, THE BODY WOULD DIE. WHAT GOES INTO THE SYSTEM? THE PERSON'S ACTUAL CONSCIOUSNESS OR A COPY OF IT? BECAUSE OF THAT, IT CAN NEVER BE DONE BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE CONSCIOUSNESS IS THE ACTUAL PERSON OR JUST A COPY OF THEM. THIS IS AN ETHICAL PROBLEM. ETHICS, SOMETHING YOUR CULT ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH. I'M GLAD SCIENCE HAS A CONSCIENCE.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:49 am |
    • Huebert

      Uncouth

      Here are two of your crazy statements.

      When someone mentioned tragedy, and disease you responded with
      "Science hasn't seemed to be able to save them....when will it?"
      Completely ignoring the fact that science is what lead to the discovery of antibiotics and antiseptics, which have saved millions if not billions of lives.

      "Hmm, haven't seen too many scientists giving out food to the needy have you?"
      This statement completely ignores the fact that scientist are the people creating the high yield agricultural products that have allowed this secular nation to give away millions of tons of grain and other food stuffs as foreign aid.

      When juxtaposed to these two positions you holding the belief that we should stop teaching engineering does not seem farfetched.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • CAPS LOCK IS AN ABOMINATION

      END THE EVIL NOW!!!!

      April 23, 2013 at 10:54 am |
    • FYI

      APOLOGISTS SHOULD REALLY TRY TO STAY OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF ANYTHING SCIENTIFIC IN NATURE. THEY REALLY SCREW THINGS UP. I'M STILL LAUGHING THAT THIS PRANCER THOUGHT SOME FANFICTION BS WAS SOMEHOW RELATABLE TO THE SUBJECT OF PROSTHETICS. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      April 23, 2013 at 10:55 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      @Huebert-"When someone mentioned tragedy, and disease you responded with
      "Science hasn't seemed to be able to save them....when will it?""

      Yeah, you might want to check that out again. You are taking my comment out of context.

      "Completely ignoring the fact that science is what lead to the discovery of antibiotics and antiseptics, which have saved millions if not billions of lives."

      I never said that science never dd anything good. I did point out that the companies that the scientists work for hold the patents on such discoveries. Therefor not saving anyone unless they can pay. Science is just a tool and isn't good nor evil. Trying to imply that science somehow replaces spirituality is dumb. Not saying you are doing this but others are.

      "This statement completely ignores the fact that scientist are the people creating the high yield agricultural products that have allowed this secular nation to give away millions of tons of grain and other food stuffs as foreign aid."

      Lol....I am not ignoring anything. Again..science is a tool and does not create morals. People do that and it's the people that feed those in need, not science.

      "When juxtaposed to these two positions you holding the belief that we should stop teaching engineering does not seem farfetched."

      You are too funny. I'll just hope you didn't see the comment I actually made on that.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "I'M STILL LAUGHING THAT THIS PRANCER THOUGHT SOME FANFICTION BS WAS SOMEHOW RELATABLE TO THE SUBJECT OF PROSTHETICS."

      Well capslock, you do know the difference between simple prosthetics and a device that is actually controlled by the nervous system right? I am sure you do....what was I thinking to question your intelligence on these matters *rolls eyes*.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      Huebert, allow me to inform you that Alexander Fleming was a Catholic, educated at St. Mary's Hospital.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:43 am |
    • ME II

      @Bill Deacon,
      "...Alexander Fleming was a Catholic, educated at St. Mary's Hospital."

      Just curious, was penicillin revealed to Fleming during prayer.. or did he use science?

      April 23, 2013 at 11:48 am |
    • Huebert

      Uncouth

      I read all of those statements in context. Maybe your communication skills aren't as good as you seem to think they are, because the message I got form your comments is what I responded too.

      Though I do agree with your as.sessment that science is only a tool, and I would never want science to replace spirituality, nor do I believe that science even could do such a thing. Philosophy and ethics are what will replace spirituality and morality.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:49 am |
    • lol??

      Lonesome Ranger Demouth sayz,
      "Looks like WE're surrounded, Tonto!!
      Tonto responds,
      "What'dya mean we, white man????"

      April 23, 2013 at 11:50 am |
    • Huebert

      @Bill

      That is true, but his belief in god had nothing to do with his discovery of penicillin.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:51 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      You are a twit capslock. Let me break this down for you...pay attention now;

      From: http://press.princeton.edu/t itles/9273.html
      "In the year 1000, the economy of the Middle East was at least as advanced as that of Europe. But by 1800, the region had fallen dramatically behind–in living standards, technology, and economic insti tutions."

      Exactly how is that different that what I cited? Though I will point out that there is a difference between economy and science. You do know that right? Not to mention that the author is NOT a historian. My statement pointed out that mathematics grew during the timeframe you pointed out capslock. I am correct in this and even the citation you gave supports it.

      "I CAN'T TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY."

      Ouch..I am hurt. But let us be serious for a minute shall we? The advancement in mathematics during the Muslim Middle Ages is a fact. I am sorry you cannot accept that.

      The rest you wrote was just fundie blabber and doesn't require comment.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:52 am |
    • Terry

      "Huebert, allow me to inform you that Alexander Fleming was a Catholic, educated at St. Mary's Hospital."

      So i guess you are going to tell us that all he had to do was pray for penicillin? Or do you think he might have stuck to his roots in science, biology and botany to bring us one of the most widely used medicines in the world? Hmmmm?

      He was an amazing biologist IN SPITE of his religious upbringing.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:53 am |
    • Uncouth Swain

      "I read all of those statements in context."

      Permit me to disagree with you since I am the one who wrote them and they were not directed toward you to begin with but another.

      "Philosophy and ethics are what will replace spirituality and morality."

      Perhaps but considering that they have a very long history within humanity, they don't seem to have made good headway against religion. Maybe in another few thousand years they will.

      April 23, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • sam

      Everytime someone gets called out on something stupid they posted, it's always 'out of context'.

      April 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
    • Sam

      And sure enough you get stupid people on here that come by hours later, doesn't read all the comments and doesn't understand them trying to make quickie comments that show their ignorance.
      Good job sam.

      April 23, 2013 at 4:29 pm |
  6. The Truth About Muslims

    50% are in favor of violence and want all non-muslims to die.

    The other 50% haven't read the Qur'an.

    April 23, 2013 at 2:58 am |
    • Science

      For what...................... ? Make sure to read what the pope said !

      Where do morals come from?

      By Kelly Murray, CNN

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/

      Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.

      Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’

      Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
      bears his name as the “God particle.”

      http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/atheist-prof-peter-higgs-stop-calling-higgs-bosen-the-god-particle/

      Pope praises science, but insists God created world updated Thur October 28, 2010
      Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday – God did create the universe. The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme... \

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/28/pope-praises-science-but-insists-god-created-world/

      Science

      Heaven is 'a fairy story,' scientist Stephen Hawking says updated Tue May 17, 2011
      By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor The concept of heaven or any kind of afterlife is a "fairy story," famed British scientist Stephen Hawking said in a newspaper interview this week. "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when...

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/17/heaven-is-a-fairy-story-scientist-stephen-hawking-says/

      April 7th, 2012

      08:32 PM ET

      The Jesus debate: Man vs. myth

      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/comment-page-137/#comment-2281915

      Make sure to read comments

      April 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |

      Breaking News

      NASA: Three planets found are some of best candidates so far for habitable worlds outside our solar system.

      http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/planet-discovery/index.html

      April 23, 2013 at 7:12 am |
  7. lol??

    The false prophet is religion.

    April 23, 2013 at 1:09 am |
    • lol??

      The antichrist beast is governments.

      April 23, 2013 at 1:10 am |
    • lol??

      Dialectical? The dragon is in the middle dispensing power through the clash.

      April 23, 2013 at 1:12 am |
    • lol??

      Joe 3:14 Multi*tudes, multi*tudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD [is] near in the valley of decision.

      You got company.

      April 23, 2013 at 1:14 am |
    • FYI

      THE LORD DOES NOT TAKE ITS PROPERTY INTO HEAVEN IF THEY CAN'T EVEN GET SIMPLE WORDS LIKE MULTITUDES RIGHT.

      April 23, 2013 at 9:55 am |
  8. biggles

    The heart of man is the problem.

    April 23, 2013 at 1:07 am |
  9. Reality

    Only for the eyes of the new members of this blog-–

    Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    Added details available upon written request.

    A quick search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

    e.g. Taoism

    "The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

    Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother's womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. "

    April 22, 2013 at 11:33 pm |
    • The Truth about Muslims

      It can happen I saw it on "Fringe"

      April 22, 2013 at 11:37 pm |
    • Kevin Kinney

      The truth is that religion played no part in this bombing. Truth is that America is in trouble with its own beliefs.
      I am one of the 2% that most America wants to get because of the money and power.
      I don't believe in America anymore as the 98% don't but have a message for all. We must get back to what we stood for. What the founding fathers stood for. Equality! Our world is in trouble, not because I say so but because of the truth. Deny it if you want but it is true and the sooner we take action against our own government the better. I do not control this or would ever try to pursued others to believe it by terrorism but we will learn what I am trying to save us all from. It is time for all of mankind to reach an equal equilibrium with each other by choice and not government.

      April 23, 2013 at 12:38 am |
    • Reality

      Our War on Terror and Aggression:

      An update (or how we are spending or how we have spent the USA taxpayers’ money to eliminate global terror and aggression)

      The terror and aggression via a Partial and Recent and Not So Recent Body Count

      As the koranic/mosque driven acts of terror and horror continue:

      The Muslim Conquest of India – 11th to 18th century

      ■"The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      and the 19 million killed in the Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C by Muslims.

      and more recently

      1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

      1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

      2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

      3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles. 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

      5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

      6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

      7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

      8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

      9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

      10) – Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror

      11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

      12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

      13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

      14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

      15 The daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings in the terror world of Islam.

      16) Bombs sent from Yemen by followers of the koran which fortunately were discovered before the bombs were detonated.

      17) The killing of 58 Christians in a Catholic church in one of the latest acts of horror and terror in Iraq.

      18) Moscow airport suicide bombing: 35 dead, 130 injured. January 25, 2011.

      19) A Pakistani minister, who had said he was getting death threats because of his stance against the country's controversial blasphemy law, was shot and killed Wednesday, 3/2/2011

      20) two American troops killed in Germany by a recently radicalized Muslim, 3/3/2011

      21) the kidnapping and apparent killing of a follower of Zoraster in the dark world of Islamic Pakistan.

      22) Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN 3/30/2011) - Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl. Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public. Hena dropped after 70 and died a week later.

      23) "October 4, 2011, 100 die as a truck loaded with drums of fuel exploded Tuesday at the gate of compound housing several government ministries on a busy Mogadishu street. It was the deadliest single bombing carried out by the al Qaeda-linked al-Shabab group in Somalia since their insurgency began. "

      o 24) Mon Jun 4, 2012 10:18am EDT
      o
      BAGHDAD (Reuters) – A suicide bomber detonated an explosive-packed car outside a Shi'ite Muslim office in central Baghdad on Monday, killing at least 26 people and wounding more than 190 in an attack bearing the hallmarks of Iraq's al Qaeda affiliate.
      The bombing on a Shi'ite religious office comes at a sensitive time, with the country's fractious Shi'ite, Sunni and Kurdish blocs locked in a crisis that threatens to unravel their power-sharing deal and spill into sectarian tensions."

      25) BURGAS, Bulgaria | Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:27am EDT

      (Reuters) – A suicide bomber carried out an attack that killed seven people in a bus transporting Israeli tourists in Bulgaria, the interior minister said on Thursday, and Israel said Iranian-backed Hezbollah militants were to blame.

      26 ) September 12, 2012
      U.S. AMBASSADOR KILLED
      Envoy to Libya dies in rocket blast

      27) Boston Marathon horror – April 2013, four dead, hundreds injured and maimed for life. A
      Continued below:

      Other elements of our War on Terror and Aggression:

      -Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,480 and 928 in non combat roles as of 09/15/2011/, 102,522 – 112,049 Iraqi civilians killed as of 9/16/2011/, mostly due to suicide bombers, land mines and bombs of various types, http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ and http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf

      – Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,385 killed in action, 273 killed in non-combat situations as of 09/15/2011. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed mostly due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,

      – Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.

      – Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

      – North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.

      – Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

      – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

      – – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

      – Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols escaped the death penalty twice because of deadlocked juries. He was sentenced to 161 consecutive life terms without the possibility of parole,[3][7] and is incarcerated in ADX Florence, a super maximum security prison near Florence, Colorado. He shares a cellblock that is commonly referred to as "Bombers Row" with Ramzi Yousef and Ted Kaczynski

      – Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.

      – Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

      – Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.
      – The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

      The capture of Ratko Mladić: (Serbian Cyrillic: Ратко Младић, pronounced [râtkɔ mlǎːditɕ], born 12 March 1943[1][2]) is an accused war criminal and a former Bosnian Serb military leader. On May 31, 2011, Mladić was extradited to The Hague, where he was processed at the detention center that holds suspects for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).[3] His trial began on 3 June 2011.

      – the bloody terror brought about by the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

      – Bin Laden was executed for crimes against humanity on May 1, 2011

      – Ditto for Anwar al-Awlaki on September 30, 2011

      – Ditto for Abu Yahya al-Libi on June 5, 2012

      – Boston Marathon bombers, one dead, one in custody facing execution or life in prison without parole.

      April 23, 2013 at 7:15 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Kevin Kinney
      Your english is poor so I doubt you are American. We ARE the government. If you fight the government, you fight yourself.
      Our process works differently. Instead of b!tching what the "governement" is doing, you stand up and using the processes we have, make your voice clear. We are not against the government, we ARE the government.

      April 23, 2013 at 7:25 am |
  10. STFU

    @ISLAM (Mohammad A. Dar of Pakistan), yo pressure cooker wannabe boy, now get some rest, will you !! send me your address and I will send you inflatable goat, you can take your frustration out on back of her

    April 22, 2013 at 11:00 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

      Ya secular poop-head not worth to smell my flatulence ism

      April 22, 2013 at 11:04 pm |
    • CROM

      That you know where to get an inflatable goat, much less be willing to actually purchase one, is sad.
      How much you wanna bet those things are made in China. What do those workers think as they manufacture them?
      Islamic Americans must pine for the old ways!

      April 22, 2013 at 11:43 pm |
  11. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=PLE45EE30D3115ACB3&v=J8ZjLSujXOU

    Muslims, super nice!!

    April 22, 2013 at 10:50 pm |
  12. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=J9WZbSb8Iqw

    Muslims, LOL!!!

    April 22, 2013 at 10:47 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      hinduism, fabrication of hindu secular s, crook self centered.

      April 22, 2013 at 10:51 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

      LOL!! Muslims are total idiots!!!!!

      April 22, 2013 at 11:29 pm |
  13. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gA7-7igGU1I

    Check out this rocket scientist! LOL!!!

    April 22, 2013 at 10:45 pm |
  14. Bob1god

    Boy o boy, videos & all, wow!

    April 22, 2013 at 10:43 pm |
  15. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    Gods of hindu seculars, filthy self centered and their hindu Pundit ism criminal trickery.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoQeLgedTEg

    April 22, 2013 at 10:41 pm |
  16. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    hindu secular s, stupid self centered, believers of hindu ignorant Evolution praying to their hindu ignorant animal ,self centered god.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl3RHgj-ne8

    April 22, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
    • Ben

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhdtgG5Te6Q

      April 23, 2013 at 12:40 am |
  17. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

    Face of pot head secular s, filthy self centered, hindu sanatans, filthy goon man gods of hinduism, ignorance.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgGMWzmfjis

    April 22, 2013 at 10:30 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

      secretions of flatulence of blessed Potpourri a toilet bowl, so is Islam, but way of feces in following of smell absolute FLATULENT, foundation of american consti pation.

      April 22, 2013 at 10:34 pm |

    • Every time you Muslims make a sufficient nuisance of yourselves we come and squash you like a bug. Such is America, such is Islam.

      April 22, 2013 at 10:37 pm |
  18. CS

    Christians, Mormons, Islam, etc., cling to religion and continue to endorse it as reality and insist that it somehow should govern morality and law-making. One can lay out all the evidence and build (and have built) an airtight case against every single religion on Earth past and present, but still believers will not budge from their point of view, even when presented with the lies and contradictions in the very scriptures they base their beliefs on.

    Understand, I am not talking about a belief in God. I do understand that. I am talking about religion. Every one of which has been empirically proven false but yet clings like moss to ancient rocks.

    I believe the single most important factor in this inability to see through the foolishness of religion is fear. Children’s stories of heaven and hell. The initial indoctrination for many, simply cannot be undone.

    Secondly, there is a feeling of community that comes with any “club” Naturally this is not relegated to religion so it does not qualify as an excuse.

    Lastly some minds are unable to think creatively enough to imagine the more plausible alternatives. What are those alternatives? Well we have to turn to science, but also we have to accept what we don’t know and keep looking. And in truth, we don’t really know anything about how the universe came to be, what came before and where it is going. If there are multiple universes and time lines through which we move, these would be marvelous discoveries. There was a wonderful article in Scientific American a few months ago regarding a new spin on the Quantum theory. That being the quantum universe could have foamlike fluctuations that rule spacetime, not unlike the 0’s and 1’s that are the foundation of computing and storing information.

    If we wish to believe in the supernatural, we have to make things up. Hence religion. It doesn’t mean there is no god, or gods, or aliens, but it does mean that we don’t have the answers and most likely never will.

    Now we arrive back at fear. What will happen to me when I die? For me, I look forward to an eternity of nothing. Others fear this prospect and prefer to believe in fairies and fantasies and are not even ashamed that their mental description of an after life is akin to that of a 5-year-old’s picture book.

    I believe the Universe and the “everything” are FAR more bizarre than we could ever imagine with the faculties we have thus far obtained via evolution on this planet. And I wonder how many millions of civilizations across the vastness of space and time have pondered likewise.

    Finally, the entire planet is affected by the irrational belief systems of the various mainstream religions. It affects the global economy, it affects world peace, it affects our secular life style in the United States. These ancient belief systems are based on superst.ition and mythology. One would think humans would have moved forward by now but instead we as a species behave in the same self-destructive manner now as we did thousands of years ago with more at stake then at any other time in history.

    April 22, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
    • lol??

      ".......Finally, the entire planet is affected by the irrational belief systems of the various mainstream religions........"

      Please! Some are downstream from you!

      April 22, 2013 at 11:15 pm |
    • lol??

      BTW, the default is man having a god. When you run out of external gods, you will choose yasef, a subset of the "Wegodians".

      April 22, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
    • CROM

      Well said. But where are we now? In a swilling mass of garbage filled with corruption. Criminals run this world. They see no profit in progress, not when there are so many lives to ruin for fun and profit$ by regression into a free-for-all.
      No matter how insane the goal, if it includes money$, you can forget about any crimes being stopped or justice being done.
      We need a new accountability. We need people in charge that we can trust.
      I have never heard or seen any such person in all my years. They probably kill people like that as soon as they are spotted.

      April 22, 2013 at 11:30 pm |
    • The Truth about Muslims

      The are Stupid idiots.

      April 22, 2013 at 11:36 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Nicely said, CS.

      April 23, 2013 at 10:59 am |
  19. ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

    Neither were secretions of flatulence of blessed Potpourri a toilet bowl, so is Islam, but way of feces in following of smell absolute FLATULENT

    April 22, 2013 at 10:07 pm |
  20. Francisco

    These are quotes from the Koran. The same Koran that every Muslim reads. Very scary stuff.

    Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98

    On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161

    Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191

    Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39

    These quotes from the Muslim religion needs to be exposed . There is a formidible danger brewing here and around the world.

    April 22, 2013 at 9:01 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      Sure truth absolute GOD is enemy of hindu secular s, criminal self centered, because they are hindus enemies of truth absolute GOD, only a hindu denier of truth absolute in life can problem with it, none others. Take your hindu secular ism, criminal self center ism and take god of hindu seculaers hindu lucifer , criminal secular of all , and all of tam take a dive in hind, hell.

      April 22, 2013 at 9:15 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI PATION

      Neither were secretions of flatulence of blessed Potpourri a toilet bowl, so is Islam, but way of feces in following of smell absolute FLATULENT, foundation of american consti pation. called TP Porcelain Throne, Urinal, consti pation of excrement absolute FLATULENT, religions are smelly corruption of true human waste by port-a-potty air freshener s, criminal self-wiped to make humanity their genital.slave.

      April 22, 2013 at 9:50 pm |
    • His panic

      That will cause Panic among those who haven't place their trust in God and in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. They are in a state of Panic, not me because you know that guy in Iran, I'm his Panic.
      Now, really nobody should scapegoat a faith. However in this case this particular "faith" is scapegoating itself.

      April 22, 2013 at 9:51 pm |
    • ISLAM FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN CONSTI TUTION

      Show of hinduism absurdness of hindu secular s, filthy self centered, not of human, but of hindu primate ignorant self centered by nature by their hindu ignorant faith.

      April 22, 2013 at 10:05 pm |
    • .

      Show of muslimism absurdness of muslim secular s, filthy self centered, not of human, but of muslim primate ignorant self centered by nature by their muslim ignorant faith.

      April 22, 2013 at 10:14 pm |
    • biggles

      FBI and homeland security must be kept abreast of the animals' threats to harm Christians. Every believer and everyone else not associated with anvil face, observer, tom the moron, no-religion and Sam the little filthy mouthed cowardly punk and their aliases, report these asps and include their threats. They are sick, violent, full of rage and they are terribly deluded.

      April 25, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
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