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April 23rd, 2013
09:47 AM ET
Muslims in North Caucasus concerned about ‘extremism'By Dan Merica, CNN Washington (CNN) – A majority of Muslims (57%) in Russia’s North Caucasus – including Chechnya, Dagestan and five other Russian jurisdictions – are either “very concerned” or “somewhat concerned” about religious extremist groups in their country, according to a Pew Research Center survey. That number is higher than Russia as a whole, where more than four-in-10 Muslims in the country express the same level of concern. This region of the world, particularly Chechnya and Dagestan, has been in the news recently because the suspects in last week’s Boston Marathon bombing – Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the younger brother who is still alive, and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older brother who died in a shootout last week – had familial ties to the region. The two brothers were born in Kyrgyzstan, where 62% of Muslims told Pew they were very or somewhat concerned about extremism in the central Asian country. Monday night, Dzhokhar told investigators that his older brother, Tamerlan, was the mastermind behind the Boston Marathon bombing that killed three and injured more than 260 people. Tamerlan appears to have become increasingly religious in the years leading up to the bombing, and interviews with family in Russia indicate that the older brother was radicalized while in America. While there is so far no evidence that the brothers were associated to international jihadist groups, in August 2012, soon after returning from a long visit to Russia, Tamerlan created a YouTube channel with links to a number of videos including sermons or interviews with radical preachers. Though extremist groups from Chechnya have carried out terrorist acts since the early 2000s, most of those attacks have been focused on Russia. An example: the Beslan school hostage crises in September 2004, where more than 300 people were killed. Though experts say the Caucasus are quieter now, Thomas de Waal, an expert on the region, says there is a constant a low-level Islamist insurgency there. The Pew data released Tuesday is part of a larger report on the state of Islam conducted from October 2011 to February 2012, with research collected before the Boston bombings. The survey also found that Muslims in Russia’s North Caucasus – the dominant religion in the region – are more concerned about Islamic extremist groups than Christian groups. Thirty-six percent of Muslims said they were primarily worried about Islamic extremists, while only 2% indicated they were worried about Christian groups. Russia, as a whole, is primarily Christian, with 73% of its population identifying with the faith, according to Pew’s 2012 Global Religious Landscape report. About 10% of the country’s population is Muslim – most of which live in the Russian Caucasus. Likewise, in the brothers' birthplace of Kyrgyzstan, 32% of Muslims were concerned about Islamic extremist groups, while 5% were concerned with Christian extremism. According to Pew’s numbers on world religions, Muslims make up 88% of the country’s population, while 11% of Kyrgyz people are Christian. In light of the bombing, Muslim leaders in Boston and around the United States condemned the attacks. “I don't care who or what these criminals claim to be, but I can never recognize these criminals as part of my city or my faith community," said Yusufi Vali, executive director for the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, the largest mosque in the Boston area. Imam Talal Eid, the imam at the Boston Islamic Institute, told CNN that he would refuse to give Tamerlan last rites. "A person who is devoted does not kill innocent people," Eid said. - CNN’s Eric Marrapodi and Jake Tapper contributed to this report.
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How much longer can they defend their religion? Realistically. If our only contact with this religion is on the news about another "radical" blowing up innocent people why would their polls be any different? It's not the media's fault, where are the muslims contributions to their communities outside of violence? If their "normal" members do nothing besides produce radicals then they aren't innocent either. The religion not good.
How much longer you can defend the dropping bombs on innocents in the name of God give right to steal the land and resources.
first of. no one is innocent, secondly. It wasn't theirs to begin with.
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"Muslims in North Caucasus concerned about ‘extremism’ within their faith".....
Not enough to RAT out the extremists
How many people are concerned about the gun violence which kills whole lot more than terrorism ?
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He who is without sin, throw the first stone...
I have never committed an act of terrorism. I would be happy to throw stones at these radical Islamic terrorists.
I really hope no one has to suffer like 6 year old Aisha who married 60 year old prophet Mohammed
The earliest manuscripts do not include 7:53–8:11
John 8:7
"And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, 'Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.'"
(http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%5D%207:53%E2%80%938:11&version=ESV)
Fool, but you supported the Zionazi terrorism.
Oh, I think the 1st stone has already been thrown, and the 2nd, and the 3rd ...
That's funny, there are plenty of places in the bible that commands you to throw stones at people until they are dead.
Deuteronomy 22:22-24 for one.
Indeed Me II those verses were added a couple of hundred years after the gospel of John was originally written.
There are no Satanists in the Torah or the new testament?Neither is the word Jew-ish written any where in the Bible either! (Luke 4:8) *1st Timothy 5:15*
IIn 614 AD when Mohammed was spreading Islam peacefully Jews were busy in genocide of 60000 Christians in Jerusalem.
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I am concerned that the innocent faithful Muslims and other middle eastern religions in this country will bear the brunt of the actions of these two monsters who acted in the name of Islam. Most folks do not know the difference in Sikhs and Muslims let alone the differences in the Islamic sects. I am an American and a non-believer and do not want to see my country destroyed by anger that is sparked from without but is fed from within this country. We need to control our grief and anger until we can direct it at the actual perpetrators of this atrocity and not at all middle eastern/Asian religions practiced in our country. I dislike any religion that subjugates human beings as the Muslims do women but this is also true of many Christian religions such as Catholics and Mormons.
I am concerned about all the Nazi occupations happening in middle east, all the drone killings happening in middle east, all the resources and land stealing happening in middle east.
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Reality, Do you think it helps to resolve your concerns to kill innocent people running and watching a marathon in Boston on a sunny April day? Are your concerns so radical as to ignore basic human decency in a free country so far from the Middle East ? If you do not want to see innocent American Muslims targeted get a clue. Your concerns are with the Middle East, spreading hate and fear in America will not resolve them.
worries me too!, we have a former terrorist teaching at Columbia U! and we wonder why people radicalize in the US? go no further than your america bashing professors at for example HARVARD!
This would not happen if God hadn't been taken out of schools. I pray for them.
Ly prays for the gods taken from schools!
You speak the good the english William.
Ever hear of the seperation of church and state? Religion has no place in schools. Or have you never read Matthew 6:5-6?
5And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
I had no idea that George W. Bush was teaching at Columbia...
Now America bashing is equivalent to extremism, that means whole Venezuela is extremist country now. Why don't you guys invade those South American countries than ?
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We don't have and should not even consider "thought police" in this country. A sick person can fixate on an idea whether true or false from a magazine, an online chat, a book, a sermon, the Bible, the Quran, or a radical professor or religious leader. We cannot stop what people are thinking and we cannot and should not try to stop free speech and exchange of ideas. Let us not lose more freedoms to fear.
Honey Badger. You did not understand that text of Mathew. It is about personal gain, looking righteous to onlookers because you are Preaching loudly for all to see... therefore making you look better to other people. not because you are looking for credit from God. it then goes on to say how those type of people are double minded in everything they do. nothing to do with separation of church and state. However I do partially agree with Sep. of C&S
I see you're out of your closet.
seeing as how you use the bible to further you're notions of what the world should be like, and you have oh so great wisdom behind its meanings, do you have any other examples from the bible of separation of Church and state? Funny, because even as a Christian, I know several. But I'll let your scholarly knowledge enlighten us.
ONLY 57% reported being "concerned" about extremists (presumably violent extremists) within their own faith (Islam) ?
WOW – That's not exactly reassuring to the rest of us, who are *constantly* being told how "peaceful" Islam is.
And for all of the "talk" about how "peaceful" Islam is *supposed* to be, and the *verbal* denunciation of violence perpetrated by those who profess the Islamic faith, I see only *governments* – and SOME WESTERN-ONLY mosques and congregants actually trying to do something about the violence being perpetrated in the name of Islam.
This is a SERIOUS problem that threatens democracy and the possibility of world peace. Sooner or later non-Muslims and non-Islamists are going to have to face up to and deal with it in much more concrete ways than they currently do.
That is exactly my thinking. 57% is not really majority... that means there is a whopping 43% that don't think extremism is a problem!?!?! That 43% is a lot of Muslims and can be a force to be reckon with!
Gun violence kills 33000 people in America every year, so how many people are concerned about it ?
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"Extremism" in anything is worrisome. Religion and politics especially because they touch everyone in some manner. While I believe that the majority of people are not so extreme, the extreme are the loudest from every sect and side. Think about who you hear most about in the news, the extreme conservatives, the extreme liberals, the extreme christians and muslims. Blame the media for giving them a voice. And shame on anyone for buying into their extremism.
Atheists scream and cry the loudest.
ATHEISTS DON'T SCREAM BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO SOULS TO FILL WITH THEIR FEAR.
That doesn't make any sense. But ok.
NEITHER DO YOU, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE 11 O'CLOCK HOUR TODAY. BUT THAT'S EASILY EXPLAINED.
Your caps lock key is stuck. Just a little FYI for you.
People are People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbD3Hlbvafo
Thanks for watching.
YOU DON'T SAY?
The AP is unbelievably reporting that these two fell into a pattern that led them to radicalism... they couldn't "fit in" in the U.S. I'm just shocked that they could seriously report that line or reasoning. One was married, one went to high school and college and was on the wrestling team, but didn't "fit in"? The media is so blind, but fany themselves and deep thinkers. It's actually kind of funny to watch.
oh no he is crapping again !!!
I grew up in the Big City, and for years they would talk about Black on White crime, or White on Black crime.
If we use these standards in this venue, and compare dead Muslims to dead Christians, it is QUITE clear who is the aggressor culture.
I suspect the ratio is at a minimum twenty to one.
If body counts are reality, the Muslims are getting stomped.
Do you count domestic violence in with that? Because I do believe that the status of women in the Muslim dominated Middle East would imply that they are far more hurtful.
I mean which would you allow your daughter to visit? A Christian dominated nation like the US or a Muslim dominated nation like Jordan or Saudi Arabia?
In truth I have a daughter, and I wont let her go south of the Jersey Shore
Rednecks scare me FAR more than towel heads.
You know saying Jersey Shore doesn't exactly make you seem like a responsible parent right? I'm certain the ppl in Ohio, Penn and as far as Los Angelas appreciates being lumped in with your biased "redneck" grouping.
So, you are saying that it would be safer to send her to Jordan than to Maryland? Oookay.
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I said south of me.
West? The land of fruits and nuts? All good.
But East Coast's "south" are a bunch of inbred hillbillies of the WORST order.
Better she be in Tehran than South Carolina
If you are pointing out status of women, Than I would like to point out status of women in Congo, Swaziland , those are Christians countries, what about the status of women in India where they are killed before birth. at least middle eastern countries don't kill 500000 girl child in womb every year like other non Muslim countries.
"But East Coast's "south" are a bunch of inbred hillbillies of the WORST order."
So Maryland is worse than Iran eh?
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Right on cue - liberal CNN apologists for Muslim in spite of Islam's track record of wanton slaughter.
Hint: If Islam were benign, it would market itself.
christianity is not benign, but it markets itself
@lagergeld,
"If Islam were benign, it would market itself."
Talk about non-sequitor. What does marketing have to do with benefit? Let's ask the Marlborough Man...
Slaughter like WW2 slaughter of 66 millions by Christians ?
Slaughter of Vietnamese by Christians ?
Slaughter of Red Indians by Christians ?
"The survey also finds that few Muslims across the region support the use of violence against civilians in the name of Islam, though there is somewhat more support for suicide bombing and similar violence among Muslims in Kyrgyzstan than in Russia or Kazakhstan."
( http://www.pewforum.org/Muslim/Most-Muslims-in-Region-Reject-Violence-Against-Civilians.aspx )
I have yet to see a single truly world-renowned Islamic cleric outright condemn terrorism. Every time they speak on it, they have qualifiers.
Atheism is the most dangerous of all religions.
Is baldness a hair color?
Lycidas, you are brilliant. Thank you for your insight.
Atheism might be considered a belief but it is not a religion.
Yes, bald is a hair color.
Yes, I'm clever. Just ask me and I'll tell you.
It is in FACT a religion. You base your faith in science. Therefore it is a faith-based religion.
Shut up.
Lycidas obviously doesn't let logic get in the way of her stupidity.
Most balls in the redneck comunity belong to the Biatch Bible Thumpers.
No wonder their men as so pathetic.
She is def not paying attention.
Thank you for providing all of your astounding evidence otherwise. Especially the comment telling me to shut up. That was very moving and profound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z890j0VB0wQ
Faith in science isn't a religious faith. One takes the info present and figures out a hypothesis from that info. One can never really have all the info depending on the subject and might have to lean a little on faith and hope they are correct.
But there is no diety of science.
"It is in FACT a religion. You base your faith in science. Therefore it is a faith-based religion."
It would be a religion if atheists said "We know exactly how everything works and will ignore science if it ever proves our current position wrong."
Instead atheists say "We don't know exactly how everything works, and will continue searching, but as of yet there is exactly zero evidence for God"
That is not a religion. That is a current belief based on current science.
Exactly. Faith equals religion. Science is the false god in which you worship.
@Lycidas
Are you just incapable of actually telling the difference between science and religion? Are you that blinded?
@hawaiiguest- I am quite sure the person using the Lycidas handle knows the difference but if you look at the amount of recent comments from this person...they are obviously a handle stealing troll. They have been around since 11AM today.
Extremism scares me too...Extreme Muslims, Jews, Christians, tea party, nutso liberals–they are all the problem
"Maybe this religion could do us a favor and leave the dark ages and join the rest of reality here on Earth in 2012." You are aware it is 2013 right?
I would consider a christian more dangerous than a Muslim.
Then by all means move to Afghanistan and live among your chosen people, Jay. I have to wonder if people really think about what they type sometimes...
@DaTruf
Kind of like you?
That simply means you have lost contact with reality!
lol, just lol, yea, Go to any number of countries with a foundation of mosaic law, and Christian fundamentals, ya know like, USA, Canada, Great Britain, France.... Terribly dangerous countries. I myself prefer Yemen, Myanmar, Syria, Iran, PALESTINE. only because I love living on the edge, and dodging a few good stonings.
– from an educated person.
And you would be wrong. Which is why the world is terrorized by muslim terrorists.
I'm still waiting for someone to actually look at what MLK was saying. Just because this guy was a wackjob doesn't mean he didn't have some good points. "I have a dream ..." is what MLK is remembered for, but that wasn't all he said.
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