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April 29th, 2013
10:51 AM ET

New film examines science vs. religion

(CNN) – Lawrence Krauss and Richard Dawkins discuss religion in the modern world and debate science in their new film.

- Dan Merica

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  1. Seewoo

    An analogy: cartoon characters have no evidence that there is an animator who brought them to life, but there IS an animator, even though the characters cannot see or measure their creator in a quantifiable way. Their creator exists, they just can't see him/her/it.

    May 8, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • Hodor

      animated characters are not actually alive, and cannot see or measure anything, let alone an animator. the analogy does not hold up.

      May 13, 2013 at 2:48 pm |
  2. Seewoo

    Why would a universe create itself?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egPx7ejCYSk

    May 8, 2013 at 10:07 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Why wouldn't it?

      Really, dude, is this the best you can do? There's no evidence that some invisible being "created" anything. Why do you have to make up stories? Why not simply acknowledge that we don't know how the universe began?

      May 8, 2013 at 10:10 pm |
    • Pole dancing for Jesus

      Another contender for Chad-lite

      May 8, 2013 at 10:13 pm |
  3. LAST DAY

    the question is: why does matter/universe exist in perfect Symmetry and fine Tunning?

    the answer is: because there is a GOD who created His book of Universe, and His book of Religion
    based on the same perfect Symmetry and superb Mathematics, from the very beginning:

    http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
    UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES

    May 8, 2013 at 8:15 pm |
  4. Seewoo

    If atoms weren't created by God, and they are not self-existing, then why the hell do they exist?

    May 8, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • Chuckles

      What does "self-existing" mean and why do you need a why?

      These are the types of stupid questions I'm talking about....

      May 8, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
  5. Science

    See for yourself below.................The fairy in the sky did NOT create us !!!

    Monkey Math: Baboons Show Brain's Ability to Understand Numbers ..........E = mc2..............(U-Pb) numbers do not lie !

    May 3, 2013 — Opposing thumbs, expressive faces, complex social systems: it's hard to miss the similarities between apes and humans. Now a new study with a troop of zoo baboons and lots of peanuts shows that a less obvious trait – the ability to understand numbers – also is shared by humans and their primate cousins.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130503132719.htm

    OR.........take a ride on a DINO.

    Fossil records are better to read than the nasty bible..................no god(s) required !

    Oldest? New 'Bone-Head' Dinosaur Hints at Higher Diversity of Small Dinosaurs

    May 7, 2013 — Scientists have named a new species of bone-headed dinosaur (pachycephalosaur) from Alberta, Canada. Acrotholus audeti (Ack-RHO-tho-LUS) was identified from both recently discovered and historically collected fossils. Approximately six feet long and weighing about 40 kilograms in life, the newly identified plant-eating dinosaur represents the oldest bone-headed dinosaur in North America, and possibly the world.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130507124800.htm

    May 8, 2013 at 6:41 am |
    • Science

      And NO ANGELS then old pope KICKED them in OFF the TEAM last year !

      From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life

      http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml

      Pope's book on Jesus challenges Christmas traditions

      By Laura Smith-Spark, CNN

      updated 10:56 AM EST, Fri November 23, 2012

      http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/22/world/europe/vatican-pope-jesus-book/index.html?iref=allsearch

      May 8, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
  6. Hous Bin Pharteen

    According to Bette Midler, God is watching us from a distance, so she must have seen God with her own eyes.
    Why else would she make such a claim?
    Science is about reporting observations, so I can only conclude that she observed God watching us from a distance.
    This proof of God's existence is good enough for me.
    Thanks, Bette!

    May 7, 2013 at 10:40 pm |
  7. Hous Bin Pharteen

    God probably knew in advance that there would be those who doubt his existence.
    Maybe performing magic like a genie in a bottle isn't the way God chooses to operate.
    That would be so beneath him.
    It's arrogant to think you can dictate the terms by which God can prove his own existence to his own creations.
    If God exists, then he surely already knows it, so he certainly does not need to prove it to any of us.
    Maybe there is a purpose to his apparent invisibility.

    May 7, 2013 at 10:31 pm |
    • Hous Bin Pharteen

      According to Bette Midler, God is watching us from a distance, so she must have seen God with her own eyes.
      Why else would she make such a claim?
      Science is about reporting observations, so I can only conclude that she observed God watching us from a distance.
      This proof of God's existence is good enough for me.
      Thanks, Bette!

      May 7, 2013 at 10:39 pm |
    • Hodor

      how do you know what god probably knew?
      how do you know your god is the correct god?

      May 8, 2013 at 2:18 pm |
  8. Hous Bin Pharteen

    What kind of evidence for God do you need? Would you know it if you saw it?

    May 7, 2013 at 9:49 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I'll settle for a face-to-face meeting at the restaurant of your god's choice, anywhere in the world. During lunch, your god will permanently eliminate child hunger, world wide, no tricks. I'll buy lunch.

      May 7, 2013 at 9:56 pm |
    • faith

      hot air is the problem. she talks the talk. feed the hungry

      May 8, 2013 at 12:27 am |
    • Hodor

      evidence that can be examined and tested would be nice. better than numerous forms of testimony.

      May 8, 2013 at 2:26 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Hous any proof would be good. So far god... choose any of them.. is just a meme.

      May 8, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
  9. Harry P. Ness

    So then, all of the very complicated and complex laws of physics and mathematics exist just becuase they want to?
    Why would such complex abstractions be self-existing? Where did they get the idea to come into being as they are?

    May 7, 2013 at 9:37 pm |
    • Hodor

      i am not sure that physical laws and logical truths have desires. you might be confused.
      why does there need to be an idea responsible for the existence of those things?

      May 8, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
  10. There is no such thing as an intelligent atheist here..

    Just loud mouthed!

    May 7, 2013 at 9:36 pm |
    • faith

      nope. not here.

      May 8, 2013 at 12:30 am |
  11. Henri

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF2ycrCcKkE&feature=player_detailpage

    May 7, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
  12. LAST DAY

    There is only one true Religion on this earth now,

    which is supported by real and substantial –Mathematic & Scientific– EVIDENCES:

    http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
    UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES

    May 7, 2013 at 6:04 am |
  13. Seewoo

    This relationship is over. I want a divorce. You don't bring me flowers anymore.

    May 6, 2013 at 7:41 pm |
  14. Seewoo

    Where do you find the time to dig up new fossils and discover new chemicals when you're not spending all of your time insulting and sniping at people over every little petty thing that is beside the point?

    May 6, 2013 at 7:36 pm |
  15. Seewoo

    Let me get this straight: I ask questions, and I'm ignorant; you do not answer questions, and you are brilliant? Does this mean that you could win Jeopardy by calling Alex Trebek a moron for even having to ask the question?

    May 6, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • Chuckles

      I'm assuming this was directed at me? I guess showing that you can't use the reply button is a better example of showing your stupidity than I could but what the hell, let me give it a shot.

      What kind of questions do you want answered? The one about proving how math works without physical evidence? Or do you want me to answer philisophical questions that don't have definitive answers?

      I never said I was brilliant, but thanks for the compliment I guess. I'm merely pointing out that although I'm no neurosurgeon or rocket science, I have the basic knowledge and understanding that I don't need a shi.t ton of apples when I have to subract 58,746 from 100,987.

      Just because I have belief in science, it in no way means I have to validate every idiotic question someone asks me as worthy of an answer.

      Does that help or are you gonna get huffy and say that I'm a big meany pants because your dumb question deserves an answer.

      May 6, 2013 at 7:11 pm |
  16. Seewoo

    Welcome back, Chuckles. It's nice to see you here advancing science one ad hominem attack at a time.

    May 6, 2013 at 6:34 pm |
    • Chuckles

      Thanks! You seem to be reading my posts but the whole understanding them is clearly still whooshing straight past your head so let me hold your hand.

      Scientific method is a way to get logical answers of questions asked.

      If you ask a stupid question, scientific method, and science in general, is in no way present when commenting on your stupid question. Asking how we know a set of numbers times another set of numbers equals a third set of numbers without the physical evidence to back that up is a stupid question and you deserve to be mocked for a question you believe to have some sort of profundity to it but really the only depth the question uncovers is the profound ignorance that you have to live with every single day.

      Comprende amigo?

      May 6, 2013 at 6:39 pm |
    • faith

      Welch testified about how his life was on the brink of destruction when a friend gave him a Bible. "It's not about religion," he said, according to MTV News. "It's not about this church; it's not about me. It's about the Book of Life, and everybody needs to be taught this. It's crazy. It's gonna do stuff like this - like change a guy in a rock band."

      nah, its an addiction and his music sucked anyway, according to our non-judgmental, open-minded, liberal, unbiased, non-dogmatic, intellectual, holier than thou nazi, god-hating, fascist punks

      May 6, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
  17. Steve Hopkins

    Optimally, Jesus should get off his holy duff and come back among us losers, fix all these ills and shut all these naysayers up. He probably won't, though. Here's a song about that.
    http://biffthuringer.bandcamp.com/track/please-jesus-be-real

    May 6, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
    • Seewoo

      Deliberately avoiding questions, or discouraging the asking of certain questions, doesn't seem like the scientific method to me.

      May 6, 2013 at 6:23 pm |
    • Seewoo

      Oops. Misplaced original post. Sorry bout that.

      May 6, 2013 at 6:24 pm |
    • Chuckles

      @Seewoo

      thats because you wouldn't know what scientific method was if it bit you on the ass.

      May 6, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
  18. Seewoo

    Let me use an analogy. Suppose there is a cartoon animator who has created some cartoon characters: the cartoon characters cannot see the animator, but the animator certainly exists. He might be taking a prolonged coffee break.

    May 6, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      What are you attempting to analogize? If you're going where I think you're going, you're simply begging the question.

      May 6, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
    • biggles

      U have to appreciate the Nazi point of view. Nothing created everything. Accidentally. All we can see and know is all there is. We re,y on science which tells us the universe began 14 billion years ago. What created all that is is anyone's guess and no gods are needed.

      That defies every bit of science known and all the common sense there is. Don't tell them by definition god needed no creator. That flies right over there heads. Dogma is their thing

      May 6, 2013 at 6:09 pm |
    • biggles

      U have to use small words and simple sentences. Type slowly, too.

      May 6, 2013 at 8:04 pm |
  19. JohnQuest

    Seewoo, the issue with your argument is: if your God is not made of atoms then he is made of nothing, at least nothing we mare humans can comprehend. So how could you or anyone ever know what a being made of nothing wants, desires, and thinks?

    May 6, 2013 at 5:21 pm |
    • Seewoo

      By the results, I guess.

      May 6, 2013 at 5:26 pm |
  20. Seewoo

    What is the existence of matter the evidence of?

    May 6, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Energy. Why is there energy instead of no energy? Unknown. Or perhaps a giant invisible, magical unicorn?

      May 6, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • Seewoo

      A giant invisible magic unicorn is not very scientific.

      May 6, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      What distinguishes it from a god?

      May 6, 2013 at 6:27 pm |
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