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April 29th, 2013
10:51 AM ET

New film examines science vs. religion

(CNN) – Lawrence Krauss and Richard Dawkins discuss religion in the modern world and debate science in their new film.

- Dan Merica

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  1. OC

    Science deals with experiments to gather evidence.

    Religion deals with the experience.

    Two different pursuits, unique yet complementary.

    April 30, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      religion deals with experience, then jumps to unjustiified conclusions. Thscience is not compatible with religion.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:53 am |
    • SImran

      http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=religious-experiences-shrink-part-of-brain

      Religious Experiences Shrink Part of the Brain
      A study links life-changing religious experiences, like being “born again,” with atrophy in the hippocampus

      April 30, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • SImran

      In this study, Owen et al. used MRI to measure the volume of the hippocampus, a central structure of the limbic system that is involved in emotion as well as in memory formation. They evaluated the MRIs of 268 men and women aged 58 and over, who were originally recruited for the NeuroCognitive Outcomes of Depression in the Elderly study, but who also answered several questions regarding their religious beliefs and affiliation. The study by Owen et al. is unique in that it focuses specifically on religious individuals compared to non-religious individuals. This study also broke down these individuals into those who are born again or who have had life-changing religious experiences.

      The results showed significantly greater hippocampal atrophy in individuals reporting a life-changing religious experience. In addition, they found significantly greater hippocampal atrophy among born-again Protestants, Catholics, and those with no religious affiliation, compared with Protestants not identifying as born-again.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:02 am |
    • derp

      "Religion deals with the experience"

      In what way?

      How con you experience something that does not actually exist?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:08 am |
    • Wayfaring stranger

      @Simran

      Seek and you will find a God Man that will teach you what the real Simran means. It will clear your head. A pearl buried in layers of mud will not show its lustre similarly the Soul will not shine until much simran is done.

      April 30, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
  2. kamanalono

    Humans existed long before the jews invented their god.

    April 30, 2013 at 10:45 am |
    • Science

      kamanalono............Agree

      Human Y Chromosome Much Older Than Previously Thought

      Mar. 4, 2013 — The discovery and analysis of an extremely rare African American Y chromosome pushes back the time of the most recent common ancestor for the Y chromosome lineage tree to 338,000 years ago. This time predates the age of the oldest known anatomically modern human fossils.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130305145821.htm

      No god(s) needed or required to graduate from public schools in the US

      Remember : Adam had to POKE himself hard with his OWN BONE to create Eve.

      No god(s) needed................... Old. DNA works..................also catches crooks !

      Ancient DNA Reveals Europe's Dynamic Genetic History

      Apr. 23, 2013 — Ancient DNA recovered from a series of skeletons in central Germany up to 7,500 years old has been used to reconstruct the first detailed genetic history of modern Europe.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130423134037.htm

      Peace

      April 30, 2013 at 10:49 am |
    • chad

      That's not what the bible says.

      April 30, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
    • Ted Jones

      chad

      That's not what the bible says.
      .........
      Now that is funny.....how it should read is....That is not was a text written around 1000 B.C. says lol

      April 30, 2013 at 2:15 pm |
    • MarkP

      chad
      Then that would make the bible wrong.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:29 pm |
      • kamanalono

        The bible is packed with lies from cover to cover. Fact: when India crashed into Asia millions of years ago there were millions of indians on the continent of india and an unknown amount of asians on the landmass of Asia.

        May 19, 2013 at 8:03 pm |
  3. Johnny Zoidberg

    I believe in both God and science.

    April 30, 2013 at 8:58 am |
    • Ben

      Which you can, as long as you don't insist that God did something magically when science can show a far simpler, natural cause for it.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:57 am |
    • Rupert

      How?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:13 am |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      Why would I not be able to?

      I agree with what Ben said.

      Also are you Rupert T Firefly?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:22 am |
    • derp

      God waved his magic science wand and created the earth in six days.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:25 am |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      @Derp

      Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist and Christian, quoted an expert in saying that the word “day” in Hebrew is “yom”, which also means an unspecified period of time.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:32 am |
    • tallulah13

      So basically the bible reaffirms that the humans of several thousand years ago had no idea how or when the universe was formed, therefore they credited a supernatural being.

      Sounds just like every other religion.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:35 am |
    • Topher

      Johnny Zoidberg

      "I believe in both God and science."

      Amen.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:37 am |
    • Topher

      tallulah13

      "So basically the bible reaffirms that the humans of several thousand years ago had no idea how or when the universe was formed, therefore they credited a supernatural being. "

      They didn't just credit a supernatural being. That being told them He did it ... and how.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:42 am |
    • JMEF

      Topher
      Yesterday you maintained that all people are descended from Adam and Noah, is that correct? When do you maintain the great flood happened, in what century?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:44 am |
    • Science

      News Release

      Topher your.............mission is to share the facts ?

      3-D structure of the evolved enzyme (an RNA ligase), using 10 overlaid snapshots. In the top region, the overlays show the range of bending and folding flexibility in the amino acid chain that forms the molecule. The two gray balls are zinc ions. (University of Minnesota)

      University of Minnesota researchers unveil first artificial enzyme created by evolution in a test tube

      Media Note: To request high resolution images of Dr. Seelig and/or of a 3D structure of the evolved enzyme, please contact Matt Hodson at mjhodson@umn.edu.

      Contacts:Matt Hodson, University News Service, mjhodson@umn.edu, (612) 625-0552
      Peggy Rinard, College of Biological Sciences, rinar001@umn.edu, (612) 624-0774

      Peace

      April 30, 2013 at 10:45 am |
    • The real Tom

      "They didn't just credit a supernatural being. That being told them He did it ... and how."

      How anyone can believe this is beyond all reasoning. There's no evidence whatsoever that any such thing happened, Gopher.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:48 am |
    • Rupert

      @ Johnny Zoidberg
      Hugh Ross, an astrophysicist and Christian, quoted an expert in saying that the word “day” in Hebrew is “yom”, which also means an unspecified period of time.
      From Genesis:
      And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

      Seems pretty clear what a day means. Any other spin is a gross misrepresentation to support the inescapable truth that the bible is not founded in reality.

      Why would I not be able to?
      Because believing in god requires you to suspend reason and logic which are both highly frowned upon in the scientific community. If you’re able to do that to support god, what’s stopping you from doing it to support something else that’s equally unfounded?

      PS I am not R. T. F.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:49 am |
    • Reality

      o Think infinity and recycling with the Big Bang expansion followed by the shrinking reversal called the Gib Gnab and recycling back to the Big Bang repeating the process on and on forever. Human life and Earth are simply a minute part of this cha-otic, sto-cha-stic, expanding, shrinking process disappearing in five billion years with the burn out of the Sun and maybe returning in another five billion years with different life forms but still subject to the va-ga-ries of its local star.

      What we do know: (from the fields of astrophysics, biology, biochemistry, archeology, nuclear physics, geology and the history of religion)

      1. The Sun will burn out in 3-5 billion years so we have a time frame.

      2. Asteroids continue to circle us in the nearby asteroid belt.

      3. One wayward rock and it is all over in a blast of permanent winter.

      4. There are enough nuclear weapons to do the same job.

      5. Most contemporary NT exegetes do not believe in the Second Coming so apparently there is no concern about JC coming back on an asteroid or cloud of raptors/rapture.

      6. All stars will eventually extinguish as there is a limit to the amount of hydrogen in the universe. When this happens (100 trillion years?), the universe will go dark. If it does not collapse and recycle, the universe will end.

      7. Super, dormant volcanoes off the coast of Africa and under Yellowstone Park could explode cataclysmically at any time ending life on Earth.

      8. Many of us are part Neanderthal and/or Denisovan. You can find out by sending a check for $199 and a mouth swab to the National Geographic Genographic Project. https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com

      Bottom line: our apocalypse will start between now and 3-5 billion CE. The universe apocalypse, 100 trillion years?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:52 am |
    • Topher

      JMEF

      " Yesterday you maintained that all people are descended from Adam and Noah, is that correct?"

      Yes.

      "When do you maintain the great flood happened, in what century?"

      Something like 4-5,000 years ago.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:54 am |
    • tallulah13

      Topher, there is just as much proof that Prometheus brought fire to humanity as there is that your god "told" humans anything.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:59 am |
    • Topher

      The flood would have been about 1656 years after Creation.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:00 am |
    • Topher

      tallulah13

      Maybe. Maybe not. There's less proof that Julius Caesar wrote about his Gallic Wars, but I bet you believe they happened.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:03 am |
    • Science

      Topher how old is the rock we all live on ?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:04 am |
    • Answer

      ==quote==

      "When do you maintain the great flood happened, in what century?"

      Something like 4-5,000 years ago.

      ==end==

      Hilarious.

      Your bs babble gives you a 7 day fairy tale and yet you freaks are giving yourselves a margin of error of 1000 years.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:05 am |
    • Topher

      Answer

      I then gave a VERY specific answer. Find a new complaint.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:11 am |
    • Answer

      Gopher.. ya like your fallen world.

      Fallen man that you want to be. Have to convince everyone to accept your bs to make yourself feel better. Why don't you actually say that you need to be s-c-u-m to become religious?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:14 am |
    • John Zoidberg

      @Rupert

      “Because believing in god requires you to suspend reason and logic which are both highly frowned upon in the scientific community. If you’re able to do that to support god, what’s stopping you from doing it to support something else that’s equally unfounded”

      The majority of scientists do believe in a higher power, albeit by a slight amount:
      http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/24/opinion/la-oe-masci24-2009nov24

      April 30, 2013 at 11:15 am |
    • Topher

      Answer

      I'm not "Gopher" but I'll answer for him. You don't need to be scu.m. But you do have to humble yourself.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:20 am |
    • JMEF

      Topher, I will repeat. Noah's alleged family I assume had 4 males and 4 females, one couple Asian, one couple Caucasian, one couple African, and one couple Aboriginal, right? If not, how do you explain the diversity of the races in less than 5000 years?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:23 am |
    • SImran

      Zoidberg,

      That is an interesting study. But more interesting is what I read between the lines.

      "Among scientists there are far fewer Protestants (21%) and Catholics (10%) than in the general public, which is 51% Protestant and 24% Catholic. And while evangelical Protestants make up more than a fourth of the general population (28%), they are only a tiny slice (4%) of the scientific community. One notable exception is Jews, who make up a larger proportion of the scientific community (8%) than the general population (2%).

      But the Pew poll found that levels of religious faith among scientists vary quite a bit depending on their specialty and age. Chemists, for instance, are more likely to believe in God (41%) than those who work in biology and medicine (32%). And younger scientists (ages 18 to 34) are more likely than older ones to believe in God or a higher power."

      What I would like to know is how many of these scientists who believed in god of some form were those of other religions – particularly religions of the east? Since the numbers for all forms of Christianity are lesser than general public, I am wondering if the scientists were of other faiths? And these other faiths have not really gone into a debate of trying to prove the existence of their god.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:26 am |
    • Answer

      @JMEF

      Then we subtract the deaths due to the various plagues.. the numerous infighting wars.. the world wars.. etc. So many details.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:26 am |
    • derp

      "The flood would have been about 1656 years after Creation'

      Wait, wait wait.

      Are saying that you actually believe in a great flood?

      You do realize that James Hutton unequivocally proved that to be impossible in the late 1700's.

      We've known the approximate age of the earth for over 200 years.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:27 am |
    • Topher

      JMEF

      "If not, how do you explain the diversity of the races in less than 5000 years?"

      Open a Bible and read the section on the Tower of Babel. It's just after the flood in Genesis. That might help you find the answer.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:29 am |
    • laststonecarver

      @Rupert,
      Why would an omniscient being have need to discern light and dark?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:30 am |
    • Science

      laststonecarver.............The tower light ?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:35 am |
    • Topher

      derp

      "Are saying that you actually believe in a great flood?"

      Of course. I was just watching a show last night in which these people, after touring the Amazon, walked around the desert there. They were finding clam shells left and right and supposedly people had found penguin fossils and other things that shouldn't be found there. Looks like evidence of the flood.

      "You do realize that James Hutton unequivocally proved that to be impossible in the late 1700's."

      How did he do that?

      "We've known the approximate age of the earth for over 200 years."

      No we haven't. The age of the Earth has changed by billions of years just since I was a kid. It changes all the time.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:35 am |
    • JMEF

      Topher
      Will get back to you on the tower of Babel. How do you explain 8 people generating into 6 billion people or so in about 250 generations?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • Science

      topher is as bad as chad !

      Peace

      April 30, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • Answer

      "No we haven't. The age of the Earth has changed by billions of years just since I was a kid. It changes all the time."

      ===That's your beef. Realize what you just stated.

      A religious freak who is tided down to the irrational thought that "if science keeps on changing on me, then why can I even trust it?"

      Freaks like yourself just don't get what science is about. It isn't about what you want. Science adopts to new evidence. Self corrections. That is why you freaks are such failures.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:44 am |
    • Topher

      Answer

      "===That's your beef. Realize what you just stated."

      I know what I just stated. YOU stated we have known how old the earth is for 200 years. I showed that's not true. We have no idea what age the earth is.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:49 am |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      SImran

      It states that 51% believe in a higher power. You’re right it doesn’t say that they necessarily belong to a religious affiliation.

      41% do not believe in a higher power and I guess the remaining 8% wasn’t sure.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:52 am |
    • Answer

      @Gopher

      I know your kind aren't very bright. You've proven it.

      I know your kind only accept the stuff that science has given to you when it becomes a very 'permanent' and 'stable' part of your daily lives.

      Go and ask yourself and find out that what I have stated is the truth. You've accepted your microwave. Your television set. That beautiful remote control. The endless technology. The cute toys – plastic, wool, polyesters.. etc. That wood glue, that duct tape. You name it.

      Once you have a STABLE familiarity to those things – you're all hunky dorry. But once science doesn't give support to your god you're all fed up about it. Just go eat dirt you tool.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:55 am |
    • JMEF

      Topher
      The babel story is about language not changing physical characteristics, it states one people not changing Africans into Caucasians or Asians, as I expected. 8 people into 6 billion or so in less than 5000 years, they must of had a gestation period equal to rabbits at the time.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • SImran

      Zoidberg,
      My point was that they believe in a creator, not a personalized god. And this would be in greater harmony with certain faith groups of the east (like certain schools of Hindu philosophy, Sikhism, Jainism) – unlike the personalized version of Abrahamic religions. Actually saying god is dark energy (until science figures out what that is) would not be too far from the concept of god in sikhism.

      Another interesting point is – younger scientists were more likely to believe in god, which would reflect their cultural perceptions. People often challenge their beliefs as they grow up.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm |
    • Topher

      Answer

      Boy, you sure do bark and whine a lot when you're proven wrong. It's not the end of the world, dude. It's OK.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • Answer

      @Gopher

      You love to dodge don't ya? Pathetic freaks like you never want to learn.

      Proven yourself wrong time and time again. You're going to employ your work line soon aren't ya?

      April 30, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
    • Answer

      @Gopher

      How does your average television remote controller work?

      April 30, 2013 at 12:08 pm |
    • Topher

      Answer

      What have I dodged?

      April 30, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • Topher

      Answer

      "How does your average television remote controller work?"

      Don't know, don't care. And why should I?

      April 30, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
    • Answer

      "Open a Bible and read the section on the Tower of Babel. It's just after the flood in Genesis. That might help you find the answer."

      ===There is your dodge.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • JMEF

      Topher
      Well so far you dodged my questions of how races developed and the population increased from 8 people to over 6 billion in less than 5000 years. Just a hint a generation is usually thought of as 20 years and the human gestation period is 9 months, try Topher.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
    • Rupert

      @ John Zoidberg
      From: http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/

      The United States is a highly religious nation, especially by comparison with most Western industrialized democracies. Most Americans profess a belief in God (83%), and 82% are affiliated with a religious tradition. Scientists are different. Just a third (33%) say they believe in God, while 18% say they believe in a universal spirit or higher power and 41% say they don’t believe in either. Just less than half of the scientists interviewed (48%) say they have a religious affiliation, while as many (48%) say they are not affiliated with a religious tradition.

      Even if 100% of scientists believe it is true or not is irrelevant because it doesn’t change the fact that there is no evidence to support it. Any scientist making claims with zero evidence has failed in their duty as a scientist.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
    • Topher

      JMEF

      Not trying to dodge you. You moved our conversation up the page.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:16 pm |
    • Answer

      @JMEF

      Give Gopher an even less arbitrary 20 years per generation.. even a 10 years per generation. I'd go as far to give that Gopher a 7 months gestation for a healthy baby.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:18 pm |
    • Ben

      Johnny Zoidberg
      That's not right about the word "day" because it's the same word that is used in the 10 Commandments to specify the Sabbath.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:19 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Topher: This explains exactly why the flood could not have happened. http://www.biblicalnonsense.com/chapter6.html

      April 30, 2013 at 12:20 pm |
    • Answer

      ===quote===
      Topher

      JMEF

      Not trying to dodge you. You moved our conversation up the page.

      ===end===

      Use the following simple words. "I'll answer that part ..." <<– no matter where the text moved, it would not matter.

      That makes sense you tool.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:23 pm |
    • Topher

      Truth Prevails 🙂

      C'mon, dude. I have no problem checking out links you atheists provide, but I'm not going to go to one called "biblicalnonsense" and expect it not to have a supreme bias.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:28 pm |
    • Answer

      @Gopher

      "Stay in my bubble." <<– ya that is you. The secure bubble.

      Likewise I've went to study your very own Catholic.com youtube site wanting to find out how you people get your viewpoints without any misapprehensions.

      link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrDXwF771p4

      I found them quite hilarious in how they constantly indoctrinate themselves over an authority. Promoting authority above all else to reason. "With papal endorsements ..." "The church mandates.."

      The freaks are always afraid that their bubbles will burst.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:34 pm |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      Rupert,

      I believe that from the same poll in the link that I provided. 51% believe in God or a higher power (33% who believe in God, 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power).

      I’m not sure what believing in a higher power has to do with accepting science.

      Religion is based on believing, not knowing. When one is faced with the question of what happens when we die, we all know an afterlife can never be tested empirically. It is up to each individual to only judge for themselves what will happen.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:34 pm |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      Ben,
      The word ”day” has been used in multiple times to give numerous different periods of time.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Topher: Fair enough! The following does do a comparison on both accounts. http://www.worldwideflood.com/default.htm

      April 30, 2013 at 12:44 pm |
    • Topher

      Answer

      "Likewise I've went to study your very own Catholic.com youtube site wanting to find out how you people get your viewpoints without any misapprehensions. "

      Whoa! I'm NOT Catholic.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:57 pm |
    • Rupert

      @laststonecarver
      Why would an omniscient being have need to discern light and dark?

      I think you need to re-read my comment. Someone else was trying to argue that a day wasn’t a day in the bible, and I was simply showing them that its clearly defined at the very beginning of their bible.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:58 pm |
    • Richard Cranium

      The bible also says that god seperated light and dark. If he was doing laundry...that would be possible., but since dark is only the absence of light, it cannot be seperate...it is only a word describing how much light there is, in this case none. It is not a thing that can be seperated. Light and absence of light....cannot be seperated, just two terms to describe the same thing....bible fail....again.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:03 pm |
    • laststonecarver

      @Rupert,
      I did re-read your reply to Johnny – my sincerest apology –

      @Johnny or Topher,
      Why would an omniscient being have need to discern light and dark?

      April 30, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
    • Rupert

      @Johnny Zoidberg
      Believing in science doesn’t mean only believing the bits that don’t discredit the bible. You can’t be selective about facts and still say you believe in science, it just doesn’t work that way.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:48 pm |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      laststonecarver,

      He wouldnt need to.

      April 30, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      Rupert

      “Believing in science doesn’t mean only believing the bits that don’t discredit the bible. You can’t be selective about facts and still say you believe in science, it just doesn’t work that way.”

      Of course not. I accept the Big Bang, abiogenisis, evolution, etc.

      The scientist in this video about said a higher power could exist. In a debate with a creationist, evolutionary biologist Massimo Pigliuicci, who is an atheist, said this was not a debate between religion and atheism as he had a number of colleagues that were of many different faiths.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HajP5pE4BE0

      April 30, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • laststonecarver

      @Johnny Zoidberg
      laststonecarver,
      He wouldnt need to.
      April 30, 2013 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |

      according to the NIV:
      In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
      – So an all knowing male spirit was hovering over the water, on a planet he created , but forgot something... there was no sun (solar disc)... and so.....he was talking to himself and next....

      3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day

      My question, why separate the light and dark, it would be the same thing to an omniscient being –
      Your answer, as above – He would not have to – because he didn't, men made that up that god

      April 30, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
    • Primewonk

      laststonecarver wrote, "Why would an omniscient being have need to discern light and dark?"

      Not only that, but were did this "light" come from? This idiot god didn't create stars until day 4.

      April 30, 2013 at 4:25 pm |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      I don't understand. Couldn't God have created light for the benefit of humans and other life that would inhabit the earth?

      April 30, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
  4. Vic

    The PERPETUAL "In God We Trust"

    It is the 21st Century and Science & Technology have reached premium highs, and yet, the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave chooses to PERPETUATE "In God We Trust" on its "most circulated Legal Tender Note in the world, the 100 Dollar Bill!!!!"

    God Bless America

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/24/news/economy/new-100-dollar-bill/index.html

    April 30, 2013 at 8:28 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      "in god we trust" is a lie and only was added as a national motto and put on all of our money in the 1950's by over zealous christians who violated the const!tution to pass the law that put it there.

      It has no place in any public arena, ever. It is a bold faced lie.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:35 am |
  5. questioneverything

    to Pete.
    I am just like you I suspect, that I say what I mean and mean what I say, It wouldn't make sense to use the handle quentioneverthing, if there was an exclusion

    April 30, 2013 at 8:21 am |
    • Pete

      For a guy with that name you certainly do seem to hold some pretty dogmatic, traditional Christian views.

      I guess you only question everything that conflicts with those views.

      Please explain to us, for example, how evolution theory doesn't actually explain the DNA similarities between living beings and the relationship between fossils in the geological record.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:32 am |
    • WASP

      @QUESTION: then why the "nitpicking" of whom you reply to?
      if you truly QUESTION EVERYTHING then you have to question the logic of an "eternal all powerful, all knowing, all present god"

      i surmize santa clause is god.
      GOD is all knowing; SANTA knows who is naughty and who is nice.
      GOD is all powerful; SANTA can deliever toys to every "christian" child in the world in one night.
      GOD is all present; SANTA knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake.
      thus logical conclusion SANTA IS GOD so please go to your nearest TOYS R' US and begin praying. XD

      April 30, 2013 at 8:35 am |
    • JMEF

      q.....g
      Wow, you really are something. Building blocks of RNA found in clouds of dust and gas found around young stars before planet formation. Hydrothermal vents may have originated life. No comment, right.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:00 am |
    • Science

      questioneverything.............Can you read............made it easy for you ! ...........now the mission is to share the knowledge !

      Origin of Life: Hypothesis Traces First Protocells Back to Emergence of Cell Membrane Bioenergetics

      Dec. 20, 2012 — A coherent pathway - which starts from no more than rocks, water and carbon dioxide and leads to the emergence of the strange bio-energetic properties of living cells - has been traced for the first time in a major hypothesis paper in Cell this week.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121220143530.htm

      April 30, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • SImran

      Q...G,
      I am beginning to believe that I might have been right in my as.sumption that you may not have the basic background knowledge required to understand the anwers to your questions. What research have you conducted to come to your conclusions? You are conveniently ignoring all posts in reply to your questions about RNA and DNA.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:50 am |
    • Science

      Another thread............

      questioneverything..............evolution wins !

      News Release

      3-D structure of the evolved enzyme (an RNA ligase), using 10 overlaid snapshots. In the top region, the overlays show the range of bending and folding flexibility in the amino acid chain that forms the molecule. The two gray balls are zinc ions. (University of Minnesota)

      University of Minnesota researchers unveil first artificial enzyme created by evolution in a test tube

      Media Note: To request high resolution images of Dr. Seelig and/or of a 3D structure of the evolved enzyme, please contact Matt Hodson at mjhodson@umn.edu.

      Contacts:Matt Hodson, University News Service, mjhodson@umn.edu, (612) 625-0552
      Peggy Rinard, College of Biological Sciences, rinar001@umn.edu, (612) 624-0774

      http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2013/UR_CONTENT_429344.html

      April 30, 2013 at 9:51 am |
    • Science

      questioneverything.........................did that answer your question ?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:11 am |
    • Vic

      For the benefit of the readers:

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFLk9JS9oZ8&w=640&h=360]

      [
      Atheist-turned-Christian Lee Strobel, the former award-winning legal editor of The Chicago Tribune, is a New York Times best-selling author of more than twenty books and has been interviewed on numerous national TV programs, including ABC, Fox, PBS, and CNN.

      http://www.leestrobel.com/Bio.php
      ]

      April 30, 2013 at 10:33 am |
    • Science

      Hey Vic

      Holy Hallucinations 35

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTCRdC8Dlo&w=640&h=360]

      April 30, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
  6. Austin

    Going through the toils and pains of physical life , the daily grind, makes it easy to at times not "feel " close to God. Waking up groggy, foggy, tired, bad back, stressed out and under the gun, on the run, makes it hard to maintain a spiritual high. Matter of fact, you can drift away into the affairs of the this world. It's not really supposed to stay that way.

    He is risen . Draw near to the Lord. Seek the Lord.

    Jehovah Shammah Our Lord is There..

    I dont have any emotion to spare for you regulars who resent what you think is just religion. There was simply a time in my life where the Lord unveiled a spiritual door and revealed His presence to me. It doesnt happen every day, and I can't expect it to. The one series of revelation , was enough for me to remember that behind the curtain of the flesh and eyes., the loving God, the living God, is always there. He is the God of science. You cant take that away, and any attempt is theft and deceit. God is more important than science.

    April 30, 2013 at 8:02 am |
    • WASP

      @austin,tx: "God is more important than science."

      YOU ARE USING SCIENCE RIGHT NOW. 🙂
      modern medicines are science.
      contreceptives are science.
      your clothing and the food you eat are science.
      the method of printing tons of your fairy-tale horror book, is science.

      so please if your god is that important don't get vaccinated, or use any modern conviences seeing if you pray hard enough god will lower the temperature in your house for you, or heat you during those freezing winter nights..............just ask him to do it for you and ignore that nasty evil science. XD

      April 30, 2013 at 8:08 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      'God is more important than science"

      Correction...Science is more important than god. Science will keep you alive, god won't.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:09 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      What does your post have to do with the topic?

      April 30, 2013 at 8:10 am |
    • Science

      Grow up Austin !

      First Snapshot of Organisms Eating Each Other: Feast Clue to Smell of Ancient Earth

      Apr. 29, 2013 — Tiny 1,900 million-year-old fossils from rocks around Lake Superior, Canada, give the first ever snapshot of organisms eating each other and suggest what the ancient Earth would have smelled like.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130429154107.htm

      April 30, 2013 at 8:10 am |
    • sam stone

      "I dont have any emotion to spare for you regulars who resent what you think is just religion"

      Any emotion to spare?

      It is not "just a religion", it is YOUR RELIGION.

      Why do you care about what others think?

      April 30, 2013 at 8:13 am |
    • Pete

      We know! You dreamt about God, felt that that was irrefutable proof that he was really there, and now you just can't imagine why others aren't as convinced. Tell me, would you find it at all compelling if one of us told you that we'd dreamed about reincarnation?

      April 30, 2013 at 8:13 am |
    • Pete

      sam stone
      Christians like Austin see their faith as a pyramid scheme where, the more converts you can get out there working at making even more recruits, the more rewards "head office" will lavish upon you. We're all just potential steps up the old ladder to him.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:24 am |
    • Austin

      and the mental abilities of Man are the produce of the brain God gave you. Science is neutral. Science is made possible by God. Denying God the purpose reason for life is a wicked denial. My point, is that even after God gives faith, our flesh wars against our spirit. Our willpower is weak such that our spiritual endeavor is nearly subjected to our flesh. This is backwards.

      #1I dreamt about the tile patio , a huge and beautiful rock tile with wide grout and a beautiful pattern and color, ater i had entered a stone arch entrance. There was an arm reaching into a whole, a whole chizzeled out of the ground. and the arm pulled out a leather bag full of gems. wrote these down in the middle or the night half asleep. The next day....I kept reading my bible.......

      Jeremiah 43:8-13
      New American Standard Bible (NASB)
      8 Then the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah in Tahpanhes, saying, 9 “Take some large stones in your [a]hands and hide them in the mortar in the brick terrace which is at the entrance of Pharaoh’s [c]palace in Tahpanhes, in the sight of [d]some of the J.ews; 10 and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, “Behold, I am going to send and get Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, My servant, and I am going to set his throne right over these stones that I have hidden; and he will spread his canopy over them.

      #2 the next night I dreamed that i was being attacked by a motorcycle gang and that the leader of the gang had a huge animal horn, att.atched to his seat. he could not even sit on his bike. he was trying to run me over. they were a rebel gang.
      the next day, i had finished reading Jeremiah and gotten into Lament.ations

      ◄ Lament.ations 2:3 ►

      New International Version (©2011)
      In fierce anger he has cut off every horn of Israel. He has withdrawn his right hand at the approach of the enemy. He has burned in Jacob like a flaming fire that consumes everything around it.
      ◄ Lament.ations 2:17 ►

      New International Version (©2011)
      The LORD has done what he planned; he has fulfilled his word, which he decreed long ago. He has overthrown you without pity, he has let the enemy gloat over you, he has exalted the horn of your foes.

      I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BOOK OF JEREMIAH AND THE STONES, AND I HAD NO RECOLLECTION OF LAMENTA.TIONS. i COULD NOT HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT ONE MAIN POINT WAS OTHER THAN I KNEW JEREMIAH WAS A PROPHET.

      #3 a few days later I had a dream that there was a huge pile of feathers underneath a bed. that day, I was reading in the book of daniel, ◄ Daniel 4:33 ►

      New International Version (©2011)
      Immediately what had been said about Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from people and ate grass like the ox. His body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.

      the kid who i had the dream about, got into trouble that day, which i had suspected the feather was a sign that he would be humiliated. he had his work pass suspended which was a major blow.

      #4 dreamed I was poisoned by mercury in alcohol. the next dream, didnt have a single dream for two weeks, this next dream I had just let two snakes out of a cage. one was a viper, the other was a rattler. but I had not thought even thought the word viper for a long time. when i woke up, i said to the kid next to me................."something is going to happen today, this one is a sign" i knew the snakes were a sign..

      two hours later i went down to bible study, the leader, on the second passage, said turn to proverbs 23:32

      29 Who has woe? Who has sorrow?
      Who has strife? Who has complaints?
      Who has needless bruises? Who has blo.odshot eyes?
      30 Those who linger over wine,
      who go to sample bowls of mixed wine.
      31 Do not gaze at wine when it is red,
      when it sparkles in the cup,
      when it goes down smoothly!
      32 In the end it bites like a snake
      and poisons like a viper.

      #5 Dreamed i was in a wh.ore house and I flooded it because i turned on a water spitot upstairs and just let it go and left it on. I had been praying about lust. I didnt catch this dream, until a few week later i did a study on water. I had no clue about this dream. i seemed like a random joke. but i got kicked out for letting the water run and flood.

      15 Drink water from your own cistern, running water from your own well. 16 Should your springs overflow in the streets, your streams of water in the public squares? 17 Let them be yours alone, never to be shared with strangers. 18 May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth. 19 A loving doe, a graceful deer– may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love. 20 Why, my son, be intoxicated with another man's wife? Why embrace the bosom of a wayward woman? 21 For your ways are in full view of the LORD, and he examines all your paths. 22 The evil deeds of the wicked ensnare them; the cords of their sins hold them fast.

      # 6 dreamed i was touring a house and went out back and there was an ABOVE ground pool with an flush deck and a privacy fence right around the deck.

      two days later the kid sleeping next to me pulled out a piece of paper , sheldon clay was his name, and he showed me his blue print he drew, of a new house, with an above ground swimming pool , with a flush deck around the pool, and a privacy fence on the deck.

      #7 this kid on night threw a roll a tp and racked me. I was furious and said to myself, I wonder if he has the light in his eye. and then i rebuked my judgment of his spiritual condition. THE NEXT MORNING he woke up and came up to me and said, "i had a dream last night that i was going around to see who had a special light in their eye to see if they were possessed or not"
      this kid was not a bible verse type of guy.

      #8 had a dream that the kid who was ripping on me lost his money
      a month later i over heard him talking about how he lost his money, and i said watch this, and pulled out the dream i had that he had lost it.

      #9 the cat dream. I had a cat at my house, that night i dreamed that a demonic voice sang to me which inverted my body and then presented the same cat, covered in blood.

      I woke up and the cat was dead in the highway, 550 feet from my house.

      #10 I had a dream i was inside the st. louis arch and I was in there with my cousin, and she was pointing at a glass case , with a bust of someone. she said "look, its thomas Jefferson" and the place was very nice. very expensive and ritzy.

      I had no idea what the st. louis arch was about. but what i had been doing, was getting heavily into the rumors about masons, and this dream just came to me. and when I googled this and I started trembling . this is called "a word of knowledge" which is a type of spiritual gift.

      There have been numerous other ones that I believe were spiritual words of knowledge that i wont get in to .

      None of this stuff, is me trying to fit things together. everything i dreamed, and then experienced in real life as i have stated. Some of these, are totally obvious. others, I have complete faith that they were also spiritual revelations, because I know %100 that some were, so I can have faith that others probably were too. and 8 of the first ten there, all happened in jail.

      This is organized, and relevant information that is a dream, relating to reality that i was about to live.

      That is spiritual revelation.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:26 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      These are dreams of an unstable mind. Thinking they have anything to do with reality is more indication that your mind is unstable.
      You seriously need help.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:32 am |
    • Rupert

      @Austin

      Do you believe that god is omnipotent?

      April 30, 2013 at 9:03 am |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      Are you Rupert T Firefly?

      April 30, 2013 at 9:17 am |
    • The real Tom

      "God is more important than science." What a stupid thing to say, and so typical of you, Austin. I know I'm not well-educated in the sciences, but you're such an arrogant twit that you dismiss "science" as if it were equivalent to "belief in an invisible fairy." It isn't. Science is based on understanding reality and is not equivalent to simple, blind belief based on no evidence at all.

      Oh, and your dreams are no more revelations than are mine or anyone else's. You're not special.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:51 am |
    • Pete

      Austin
      So, God gave us brains that can be easily fooled by optical and other illusions? He also, apparently, gave us brains that are easily fooled by con artists, according to science.

      http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-superhuman-mind/201212/our-brains-weren-t-hardwired-catch-con-artists-0

      "God" could just be the product of our brains being fooled into seeing something that isn't really there, and the opportunists who prey upon that feeling for their own gain. At the very least, if God is real and did create us, then he didn't do a very good job of it. Also, if our intelligence is how we are supposedly "created in His image" should we then suppose that God is also as easily fooled as we are? Maybe he's just deluded into thinking that he's the creator of the universe, all-powerful, all-knowing and all-good?

      April 30, 2013 at 9:52 am |
    • fintastic

      @austin.......... "God is more important than science"

      Really? is fantasy more important than reality?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:11 am |
  7. WASP

    mourning everyone. hope your day are going well. seeing lots of chatter on here back and forth. lovely. well i will just continue to read until i find a point that i feel like stepping into the arena. XD

    April 30, 2013 at 7:50 am |
    • Laurence Charles Ringo

      Here's one for you"Wasp":Austin said that God was more important that science,NOT that God replaces it.I must assume that in your pathetic attempt to score points with your fellow atheists,perhaps you've forgotten,or didn't know,that some of the world's most reknown scientists were,and are,Christians.Look it up,Wasp.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:36 am |
    • WASP

      @LAWRENCE: and what does the fact that scienctists are chirstian,muslim, hindu, buddist etc etc etc have to do with the price of rice in china?
      their work still starts from a point of no knowledge and builds from there. if all scienctists involved their "faith" with their jobs then we would still have a world of he11.

      oh and please show which GOD IS MORE IMPORTANT. 🙂

      April 30, 2013 at 8:49 am |
    • The real Tom

      Ringo, many of the greatest scientists lived at a time when admitting non-belief in some deity would result in one's being burned at the stake or drawn and quartered. Austin isn't that bright, but you're not much better.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:59 am |
    • Ben

      Laurence Charles Ringo
      Many of our leading doctors smoke as well, but they can't prove that this is actually a healthy thing to do, right? This is a personal choice, like scientists believing in God. Doctors who still smoke, or don't exercise, drink enough water, eat properly, or see their own doctors regularly don't argue that what they personally do in their private lives is in accordance with their professional opinions, and I suspect that most of your believing scientists feel the same way about God.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:13 am |
  8. questioneverything

    to Truth Prevails 🙂
    one more thing, I don't believe in eternal damnation.
    Life or death, those are the choices

    April 30, 2013 at 6:33 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Okay, so what do you believe?

      April 30, 2013 at 6:45 am |
    • WASP

      @question.....nothing: "life or death"
      no all humans don't have a choice..............................WE ALL DIE.
      "life is a tragedy because we know the ending."
      DDO

      April 30, 2013 at 8:03 am |
    • AtheistSteve

      "Life or death, those are the choices"

      How are these choices? If you live then eventually you die. One naturally follows the other. Religion tries to fool you into believing, despite the fact that every living thing we know of dies, that somehow an exemption applies to you. Even if you set aside the clear special pleading involved the mere fact that abolutely zero evidence in support of this extraordinary claim has ever been observed is enough to dismiss it out of hand.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:21 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I'm curious about eternal life – anyone's idea of it. You are at this moment the result of a few decades at most of accumulated experiences, that is, everything you perceive as yourself is. After a few terayears of eternal life, would you be in any way what you are now? What is it that you would like to survive through eternity?

      April 30, 2013 at 8:34 am |
  9. questioneverything

    strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force, electromagnetism, gravity are the forces that govern the universe, finely tuned, the periodic table explains mathematically the elements, not to mention<DNA,RNA, how did these complex systems first appear and how did they "evolve" into self reproducing cells that work together? left handed amino acids to produce proteins. Instinct in animals, glorious sunsets. the marvels of life go on and on. Since we have the ability to reason< it makes sense that the questions of origin of life should be answerable, as long as people are reasonable, and not predisposed to ideas that tickle their ears. we hear what we want to. This is a folly of man to think of himself so smart so as to deny accountability to a Creator, by dismissing the existence of one, especially since man is relatively new at real science. True Science and the belief of a God go hand in hand. people need to be humble and learn to ask the right questions. and challenge ourselves when we reach conclusions that don't explain satisfactorily why we are here, the human brain is really an amazing thing, False religion has misrepresented the Creator, and the egocentric Darwinists have misrepresented True science!

    April 30, 2013 at 4:42 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      I'd like you to remember Matthew 7:26. "The foolish man who built his house upon the sand."

      April 30, 2013 at 4:44 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Rev. Tim Lovejoy
      It looks like you didn't read what i said

      April 30, 2013 at 5:26 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      Have you ever sat down and read the Bible? Technically, we're not allowed to go to the bathroom.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:32 am |
    • SImran

      "False religion" – so what is the true religion? The one you believe in?

      April 30, 2013 at 5:37 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      This so-called new religion is nothing but a pack of weird rituals and chants, designed to take away the money of fools. Now let's say the Lord's Prayer 40 times, but first, let's pass the collection plate.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:39 am |
    • SImran

      "especially since man is relatively new at real science"

      Really? I thought the man who figured out how to make fire, how to make tools, the first clubs, cook meat for the first time......... were all scientists. Science is as old as human civilization. Probably older bcoz there are other primates too who can use tools.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals

      April 30, 2013 at 5:41 am |
    • SImran

      Wonder why someone with a handle "question everything" be unhappy when we question the concept of a Creator?

      April 30, 2013 at 5:45 am |
    • Science

      questioneverything.................reads like a fred............... is that you fred ?

      April 30, 2013 at 5:49 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Rev. Tim Lovejoy.
      I love to read the bible, matter of fact the term Reverend is used only once and it is referring to God
      to Simram
      the religion that jives with science and gives credit to a creator.you figure out which one. regarding scientists, didn't they used to think the earth was flat. the bible called the earth a "circle", it seems like you people are on attack mode, unless you can answer my first question on how DNA and RNA appeared separately and evolved into self reproducing cells and learned how to work together to create the building blocks of life, i wont respond to your questions

      April 30, 2013 at 6:11 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      Simran: This person is doing exactly what they were brainwashed to do-question nothing in their book but everything outside of it. If they'd start questioning their book along with everything else, this world would be a better place. The fear of eternal damnation runs deeps sadly.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:15 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Simran,
      sorry i spelled your handle wrong last time.
      I chose the handle questioneverything because that is what i do>actually i find great delight in doing so.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:20 am |
    • Science

      questioneverything, fred, or l4 him topher too chad

      Holy Hallucinations 35

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTCRdC8Dlo&w=640&h=360]

      April 30, 2013 at 6:23 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Truth Prevails 🙂
      maybe you want to answer the question above i asked.
      and maybe you can do it without presuming what i have or haven't done

      April 30, 2013 at 6:26 am |
    • SImran

      Dear Rev,
      I am not attacking here. But while you talk of scientists thinking earth was flat (BTW which ones?), science has time and again corrected itself. When has religion done the same? Oh, actually several scientists thought the earth was spherical even before they wrote the Bible!

      So a religion that gives credit to a creator.... the religious philosophies of the east were far well advanced in their scientific endeavours till the middle ages, when their society got entangled in petty issues. Ever read the Vedas and you would be amazed at how close their description is to what is the current scientific understanding of the origin of everything. But even in their philosophy, several schools of thought are primarily atheistic. Anyone questioning the concept of a creator is not attacking you. It is your own doubts regarding your beliefs that make you feel insecure.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:27 am |
    • Science

      If you can READ reposted from page 2 back fill no fairy in the sky !

      Thoth

      Science debating religion is absurd. One evolves as new evidence emerges and remains under global scrutiny; the other holds rigid correctness to ancient creeds drafted by men over various periods of time and does not welcome evidence which counters their beleifs. Case in point – a 'scientist' for the Creationist Museum responded to the question "what do you do when the evidence runs contrary to the bible?" – with "we go with the word of god". Translation: You can show me it's wrong but I still choose to believe it.

      April 29, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse | Reply

      Science

      Thoth ..............it is like debating the fire pit of hell !

      Ancient Earth Crust Stored in Deep Mantle

      Apr. 24, 2013 — Scientists have long believed that lava erupted from certain oceanic volcanoes contains materials from the early Earth's crust. But decisive evidence for this phenomenon has proven elusive. New research from a team including Carnegie's Erik Hauri demonstrates that oceanic volcanic rocks contain samples of recycled crust dating back to the Archean era 2.5 billion years ago. Their work is published in Nature.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130424132705.htm

      April 29, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Report abuse |

      Thoth

      2 billion years? But that can't be....the christian scientist told me that the earth is only maybe 6000 years old....and he can't be wrong because he based that on the word of god ;-}

      April 29, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |

      Science

      Thoth

      Like the LEAD to GOLD ISSUE ?

      Where Does All Earth's Gold Come From? Precious Metals the Result of Meteorite Bombardment, Rock Analysis Finds

      Sep. 9, 2011 — Ultra high precision analyses of some of the oldest rock samples on Earth by researchers at the University of Bristol provides clear evidence that the planet's accessible reserves of precious metals are the result of a bombardment of meteorites more than 200 million years after Earth was formed.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110907132044.htm

      Chondrites are fun to find !

      Peace

      April 29, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |

      Thoth

      @science – don't be crazy dude....everyone knows the devil put gold here to tempt man.....pfft....meteorites...you must be off your meds. Those aren't real. Just fear-mongering scientific manifestations.......

      Disclaimer: yes, this is sarcasm.

      April 29, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |

      Science

      Thoth ..........thanks for the reminder about my meds !

      Ca-nabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) – National Cancer Insti-tute

      http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/.../page4

      Mar 21, 2013 – [1,2] These plant-derived compounds may be referred to as phytocannabinoids. ... have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors. ... In lung cancer cell lines, CBD upregulated ICAM-1, leading to ...

      Good stuff !

      Peace

      Mentioned somewhere in the book of nasty !

      April 29, 2013 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |

      Science

      Thoth.................... education is fun with facts and a pocket full of chondrites !

      A little backfill on those stoney irom meteorites !.

      Grains of Sand from Ancient Supernova Found in Meteorites: Supernova May Have Been the One That Triggered the Formation of the Solar System

      Apr. 19, 2013 — It's a bit like learning the secrets of the family that lived in your house in the 1800s by examining dust particles they left behind in cracks in the floorboards.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130422111246.htm

      From page 2 Pound sand

      April 30, 2013 at 6:30 am |
    • JMEF

      q.......g
      Sounds to me you are making the case of deism. All you have to do is stop reading the bible and believing that there is a god looking over your shoulder. Remember that the founding fathers used the term creator over god because they did believe in an interfering deity, and did not want religion interfering with the state, smart guys. The building blocks of RNA have been found in clouds of dust and gas around young stars before planets have even been formed, could be a big head start to the evolution of life.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:31 am |
    • SImran

      I am not sure if you have the basic background knowledge to understand the answer to your question, but here is an explanation:

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/

      April 30, 2013 at 6:32 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Truth Prevails 🙂
      one more thing, I don't believe in eternal damnation.
      Life or death, those are the choices

      April 30, 2013 at 6:35 am |
    • JMEF

      My bad....did not believe in an interfering deity....poor proof reading.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:36 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      You're pointing to a god or so it would seem.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:43 am |
    • JMEF

      q.......g
      You may also want to check out life may have originated at at hydrothermal vents, the wikipedia article is pretty lame but the references given cover the topic.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:45 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      I remember another gentle visitor from the heavens, he came in peace and then died, only to come back to life, and his name was E.T., the extra terrestrial. I loved that little guy.

      April 30, 2013 at 6:49 am |
    • Science

      Morning JMEF..........fossils work to.............there is the other article about vents is here too !

      First Snapshot of Organisms Eating Each Other: Feast Clue to Smell of Ancient Earth

      Apr. 29, 2013 — Tiny 1,900 million-year-old fossils from rocks around Lake Superior, Canada, give the first ever snapshot of organisms eating each other and suggest what the ancient Earth would have smelled like.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130429154107.htm

      April 30, 2013 at 6:55 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Simran
      i don"t know you and its not my concern if your sure of my understanding, what really matters to me is if I'm sure of my understanding. which I am. I have done the research, it makes perfect sense. and what is more it adds meaning and purpose to life>
      if your happy with what you believe< good for you

      April 30, 2013 at 6:56 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      Matthew 21, 17: And he left them and went out of the city, into Bethany, and he lodged there

      April 30, 2013 at 6:59 am |
    • JMEF

      Science
      Thanks for the link, missed that one. Passing strange that the bible believers like q...g demand answers to questions that cannot be answered yet but fail to do any research on their own.

      April 30, 2013 at 7:02 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      I cast thee out!!

      April 30, 2013 at 7:03 am |
    • Science

      From Soup to Cells—the Origin of Life

      http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/IIE2aOriginoflife.shtml

      No angels the pope kicked them off the team last year !

      Peace

      April 30, 2013 at 7:06 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Truth Prevails 🙂
      I believe what i said at the outset,
      also I believe that people have the intellectual capacity to figure out things if they question everything

      April 30, 2013 at 7:08 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      And the Lord said, whack ye all the serpants which crawl on their bellies and thy town shall be a beacon unto others.

      April 30, 2013 at 7:10 am |
    • Science

      JMEF .............The real bad part is they are trying te create LAWS on bogus science !

      Adam and Eve suck a big one !

      April 30, 2013 at 7:11 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      You're are as happy as Adam and Eve before Eve munched us all to Hell.

      April 30, 2013 at 7:13 am |
    • Science

      More back fill............the old pope created IT ! By the way No fairy in the sky !

      The End

      You asked for it kenhbradshaw Have a good read !

      Where do morals come from?

      By Kelly Murray, CNN

      https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/

      Learning is fun with facts.......................... and facts work when teaching children.

      Atheist Prof. Peter Higgs: Stop calling Higgs boson the ‘God particle’

      Professor Peter Higgs said recently that there is no God and so people should stop referring to the theoretical partial that
      bears his name as the “God particle.”

      http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/08/atheist-prof-peter-higgs-stop-calling-higgs-bosen-the-god-particle/

      Pope praises science, but insists God created world updated Thur October 28, 2010
      Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday – God did create the universe. The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme... \

      https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/28/pope-praises-science-but-insists-god-created-world/

      Science

      Heaven is 'a fairy story,' scientist Stephen Hawking says updated Tue May 17, 2011
      By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor The concept of heaven or any kind of afterlife is a "fairy story," famed British scientist Stephen Hawking said in a newspaper interview this week. "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when...

      https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/17/heaven-is-a-fairy-story-scientist-stephen-hawking-says/

      April 7th, 2012

      08:32 PM ET

      The Jesus debate: Man vs. myth

      https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/07/the-jesus-debate-man-vs-myth/comment-page-137/#comment-2281915

      Make sure to read comments

      April 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |

      Breaking News

      NASA: Three planets found are some of best candidates so far for habitable worlds outside our solar system.

      http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/planet-discovery/index.html

      April 30, 2013 at 7:18 am |
    • JMEF

      Science
      Did you catch the latest from Hubble? Comet Ison will be in the neighbourhood around the end of November and could be as bright as the full moon. Cue the end of the world and second coming of jc nutbars they should have a field day with this. Harold Camping if he is still alive gets another shot at prophecy, LOL.

      April 30, 2013 at 7:18 am |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      You believe in a creator but is that the same creator that christians believe in or is it one of a deistic standpoint?

      April 30, 2013 at 7:19 am |
    • Science

      JMEF...........choked on my wings ..........on that one!........lmao !

      No sh-it................one of the best chondrites I have is a 7.2 pound ti-tle the sign of the cross rock !

      Sent pictures to the IRC ! the reaction was instant.........but died !

      April 30, 2013 at 7:31 am |
    • Simran

      Q...G

      " I have done the research, it makes perfect sense. and what is more it adds meaning and purpose to life" – now, that would be a very unscientist like statement to make. Since a scientist will never state he has DONE the research. That would indicate that there has already been a closure to his research, that the final answers and solutions have been attained and there is no need to look any further. That is precisely the problem with religion – it makes claims of closure and then goes to any extreme to defend those claims, despite the fact that time and again those claims get busted!

      April 30, 2013 at 7:32 am |
    • JMEF

      q....g
      "I won't respond to your questions." Why not? What kind of open honest discussion are you afraid of? You posit a question that is just now being capable of being answered and demand an answer or you won't play, a typical tactic of all christian apologists. This is Chading, you must answer my questions, Chad is not req

      April 30, 2013 at 7:38 am |
    • Simran

      Dear Q...G,
      You really need a bit more of researching to do. Scientists, much before the time the Bible called the earth a circle, had already figured out that the earth was spherical. The concept of a spherical earth goes back to ancient Greek philosophy from around 6th century BC. It remained a matter of philosophical speculation until the 3rd century BC when Hellenistic astronomy established the spherical shape of the earth as a physical given.

      Still the Bible calling it flat or circle doesn't speak too well about the god revealed knowledge of the people who wrote your holy book!

      April 30, 2013 at 7:38 am |
    • JMEF

      a premy post for some reason, to finish
      Chad is not required to answer any question in an honest or factual manner, it is his game after all. (This is when he takes the ball and runs away).

      April 30, 2013 at 7:44 am |
    • questioneverything

      Truth Prevails 🙂
      I believe that many of the teachings of "so called Christianity" do not agree with the bible or the teachings of Jesus Christ. and it makes perfect sense to me why thinking people do not want to have anything to do with the churches of Christendom< or other forms of religion so therefore as mentioned in my first post that these religionists and religions misrepresent God, I do believe what the bible says regarding Jesus Christ, and the Creators purpose for this earth and how he will bring it about. and at the same time I don't believe in evolution which actually takes more faith to believe in than if life was created, also i don't believe that the earth was created in 7 literal days. it has to agree with revealed science. thanks for the question.

      April 30, 2013 at 7:45 am |
    • WASP

      @question: " learn to ask the right questions."

      seeing the religious favorite statement is "GOD DID IT." then why do we need to question anything?
      your mother dies of cancer....................ANSWER god did it
      your wife cheats on you........................ANSWER god did it
      you child is born with a physical disability............................ANSWER god did it.

      why pursue science and knowledge when you have your ANSWER?
      if god did everything then you already know everything you need to know, thus sit back and wait for god to do it again.

      one major thing religious people miss about this world....SCIENCE created it. imagine the worold if all our great minds had simply agreed with the church that "god did it".
      people would still be dying or curable diseases, like small pox,the common cold, etc etc etc.
      transportation would still be horsecart and buggie.
      humans would still live in only the most habitable areas of the planet due to our lack of technology to move water where we need it.
      the world would truly be he11.

      April 30, 2013 at 7:59 am |
    • JMEF

      q.....g
      Rather interesting that you will respond to only very selective posts. Is that you L4H and are you using your list, well done?

      April 30, 2013 at 8:07 am |
    • Pete

      questioneverything
      People have to "ask the right questions, eh?

      You mean, avoid asking questions that cast doubt upon God, don't you? That would certainly gut science a lot.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:07 am |
    • questioneverything

      to Simran
      the book of Isaiah was completed by the time of 732 BCE
      chapter 40:22
      to JMEF
      I posted info that is relevant and asked a couple of questions that really deserve an answer, you copied some website as your answer I can answer as to what I believe, no problem there, but Im not under obligation to answer< and I usually dont when I sense that I am being interogated, remember also I am responding not only to your statements ( the ones I think deserve a response) and also to others statements, there is a difference in running and hiding and wondering if it is just a waste of words, which I am starting to think givin most of the things said so far in response to my initial post

      April 30, 2013 at 8:09 am |
    • WASP

      @question: "the book of Isaiah was completed by the time of 732 BCE."

      book of isaiah;
      "Jewish and Christian tradition held that the entire book is by the 8th century BCE prophet Isaiah, but many scholars have concluded since the late 19th century that it cannot be by a single author. The observations which have led to this are as follows:

      Prophecies → Passages of Isaiah 40–66 refer to events that did not occur in Isaiah's own lifetime, such as the rise of Babylon as the world power, the destruction of Jerusalem, and the rise of Cyrus the Great, which is taken as evidence of later composition. (R. N. Whybray uses these passages to pinpoint the period of Deutero-Isaiah's activity to 550–539 BCE).

      (appearently you questioned nothing, because YOU WERE OFF BY 132 YEARS.)

      same as the typical BS christians say about the bible being written within 30-60 years of jesus death. it was written over 300 years later. 🙂

      April 30, 2013 at 8:17 am |
    • JMEF

      q...g
      A pompous, arrogant, christian apologist response, questoneverything, you question nothing, you are correct in one sense you are not worth the effort of trying to engage you in an honest debate.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:28 am |
    • Rupert

      @questioneverything
      I don't believe in evolution which actually takes more faith to believe in than if life was created

      If you do question everything and still come to the conclusions you do, then you’re either willful ignorant or just plain stupid to take that stance given the mountains of evidence to support evolution. Your handle is very dishonest, because you clearly question nothing.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • questioneverything

      the chances of DNA evolving are so astronomically high that it makes it chance of happening nearly impossible< let alone coupling it with RNA also evolving simultaneously and then by chance meeting up with DNA. all from some pre- mordial soup removes evolution theory out of the equation, although the similarities in all things living or that have lived using DNA as the example smacks nothing other than Intelligent design.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:03 am |
    • questioneverything

      to JMEF

      Are you in Attack Mode, should I reply to you anymore?>nope< same for all others who are determined to change the subject and that refrain from rational thought and cant maintain their composure and dignity. i
      have to go to work now, good day all

      April 30, 2013 at 9:13 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Wrong question for everything.

      The chances of DNA forming are too high?...What math are you using.

      When you take the fact that the four elements needed are the four most common in the universe, you cut the odds.
      When you take the fact that three of these elements when in a solution of water will interact readily and will tend to settle in the same strata, you cut the odds.
      When you add in the special properties of the four elements, especially carbon with its ability to bond with itself forming complex chains, cuts the odds.
      When you add in the energies of volcanic activity and extreme electrical activity on the early planet, you cut the odds.

      You chose a name that tries to add some credibility, but if you are questioning everything, you are asking the wrong questions, ignoring the answers of both.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • SImran

      PREHISTORIC DNA STUDY REFUTES CRITICISM OF EVOLUTIONARY THEORY

      http://www.genengnews.com/gen-news-highlights/prehistoric-dna-study-refutes-criticism-of-evolutionary-theory/81247752/

      April 30, 2013 at 9:31 am |
    • WASP

      @QUESTION: RNA
      Another major difference between DNA and RNA is that DNA is usually found in a double-stranded form in cells, while RNA is typically found in a single-stranded form. The lack of a paired strand allows RNA to fold into complex, three-dimensional structures. RNA folding is typically mediated by the same type of base-base interactions that are found in DNA, with the difference being that bonds are formed within a single strand in the case of RNA, rather than between two strands, in the case of DNA.

      your assumption is truly ignorant and unfounded. everything in this universe is made from ENERGY. matter, you, your dog, etc etc etc. energy bonded together creates the peroidic table; the periodic table combines to create amnio acids; amino acids combine to create proteins, proteins combine to create DNA/RNA; DNA/RNA combine to "paint a picture" of what the organism is to look like and act.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:32 am |
    • science

      questioneverything..............evolution wins !

      News Release

      3-D structure of the evolved enzyme (an RNA ligase), using 10 overlaid snapshots. In the top region, the overlays show the range of bending and folding flexibility in the amino acid chain that forms the molecule. The two gray balls are zinc ions. (University of Minnesota)

      University of Minnesota researchers unveil first artificial enzyme created by evolution in a test tube

      Media Note: To request high resolution images of Dr. Seelig and/or of a 3D structure of the evolved enzyme, please contact Matt Hodson at mjhodson@umn.edu.

      Contacts:Matt Hodson, University News Service, mjhodson@umn.edu, (612) 625-0552
      Peggy Rinard, College of Biological Sciences, rinar001@umn.edu, (612) 624-0774

      http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2013/UR_CONTENT_429344.html

      April 30, 2013 at 9:45 am |
    • Johnny Zoidberg

      Evolution is compatible with a lot of faiths.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:47 am |
    • fintastic

      @wasp............... "seeing the religious favorite statement is "GOD DID IT." then why do we need to question anything?
      your mother dies of cancer....................ANSWER god did it
      your wife cheats on you........................ANSWER god did it
      you child is born with a physical disability............................ANSWER god did it."

      No no no no wasp, you have it all wrong!... the devil satan does all the bad, god does all the good!. See how convenient?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:28 am |
    • Rupert

      @Johnny Zoidberg
      Evolution is compatible with a lot of faiths.
      True, but christianity, judaism, and islam are not amongst them.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:33 am |
    • WASP

      @fintastic: i love when they say that:
      it's either the devil is more powerful than god or god is heartless and they don't even realize it themselves.
      as a parent i couldn't permit someone to cause harm or mislead my child into something harmful and consider myself to be a good parent, so how is it christians consider god so great?
      ANSWER: they are taught that way. XD

      April 30, 2013 at 10:37 am |
  10. Douglas

    Non Believer,

    The Schiables blew it.

    If medicine is available for healing, believers should make use of it.

    I'm talking about the cases of the "terminally comatose"who wake up
    or the people healed of diseases that cannot be explained through medical intervention.

    Those are victories of faith over science.

    April 30, 2013 at 1:06 am |
    • The Non Believer

      "Miracle healing by prayer is the best example of the power of faith over science." Your words.
      Quit cherry picking.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:11 am |
    • Variable

      Since science can explain it, how does it "beat" science? There is no magic, no god, no one listening to your prayers but you.
      You are delusional. Your religion is made up crap. You are a sucker. How much money have you given them? LOL

      April 30, 2013 at 1:15 am |
    • Douglas

      Variable,

      You are out in the crosswalk tomnorrow and get hit by a car and can't walk.
      I bet then you will start praying to walk again...in fact i would pray for you to walk again.

      Don't live in that lonely pit of the faithless...there's more to life out there for you.

      Cheers,
      Douglas

      April 30, 2013 at 1:18 am |
    • Real Healing Power

      That's not true, Variable! People are even healed a lot faster than Douglas described my the Mighty Hand!
      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0-04VDrCbM&w=640&h=360]

      April 30, 2013 at 1:19 am |
    • Variable

      You sound pretty desperate there, Douglas. You're just a troll. Monday evenings are so boring aren't they? Go away.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:22 am |
    • tallulah13

      The simple act of washing ones hands has done more for the health of humanity than prayer.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:53 am |
    • Rev. Tim Lovejoy

      I'd like you to remember Matthew 7:26. "The foolish man who built his house upon the sand."

      April 30, 2013 at 2:02 am |
    • Science

      Again doogie

      Holy Hallucinations 35

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTCRdC8Dlo&w=640&h=360]

      April 30, 2013 at 6:04 am |
  11. Douglas

    Science is stumped by faith.

    Miracle healing by prayer is the best example of the power of faith over science.

    Science remains stumped because it cannot explain the might and power of God!

    In war there are no atheists in combat...I wonder why?

    Best,
    Douglas (always keeping them honest on the blog)

    April 30, 2013 at 12:44 am |
    • tallulah13

      Well, Dougie, you are certainly welcome to your own opinion, even it it's nothing more than wishful thinking on your part.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:51 am |
    • Answer

      Only in your dreams.

      The christard lies being repeated by you are always a treat. Repeating them just to convince yourself. What a cycle.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:51 am |
    • The Non Believer

      Except for the 8 month old son, Brandon, of Herbert and Catherine Schiable.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:52 am |
    • Athy

      Give us an example of the "might and power" of god. No biblical bullshit, please.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:57 am |
    • tallulah13

      By the way, doug, you are a real prick for dismissing the atheist soldiers who fight and who have fought and who have died for this country. You are a shameful, low coward.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:58 am |
    • Douglas

      Ahhh...tallulah13,

      Resorting to name calling and ranting convinces no one that you are right.

      Still the same old tallulah13.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:03 am |
    • hal 9001

      "Douglas": "Science is stumped by faith."
      "Answer": "Only in your dreams."

      Perhaps, "Answer", in Douglas' dreams, he has faith that science will one day give him more "stump".

      April 30, 2013 at 1:11 am |
    • tallulah13

      Douglas: You deserve to be called names for your cowardly lies. Atheist solders have fought for this country, and some have died for it. Your glib cliche is a nothing more than a falsehood aimed at denigrating people far braver than yourself. You are a shameful, low human being.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:48 am |
    • Science

      Dear doogie

      Holy Hallucinations 35

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XTCRdC8Dlo&w=640&h=360]

      April 30, 2013 at 5:59 am |
    • fintastic

      @dougy................. "Science remains stumped because it cannot explain the might and power of God!"

      How do you explain something that doesn't exist?... .... You're making a claim about god.... where's your evidence to back up that claim?

      April 30, 2013 at 1:53 pm |
  12. tallulah13

    What a dreadful interviewer. I'm glad they corrected her rather arrogant presumption.

    April 30, 2013 at 12:25 am |
  13. Answer

    ==quote==

    Topher

    We live in a fallen world.

    ==end==

    This is you -> the tragic sick and retarded believer. Yes, you are s-c-u-m. I agree that you are.

    April 30, 2013 at 12:08 am |
    • science

      Morning answer.............topher has fallen .................not the world !

      Topher is as bad as chad !

      Peace

      April 30, 2013 at 5:56 am |
  14. Reality

    No need for science to refute much if not all of Christianity and for that all the other religions:

    History marches on with rigorous reviews of what is known about said religions. Summarizing for the "newbies":

    Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

    • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

    • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

    • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

    • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

    • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

    • A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinker bells? etc.) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.

    Added details available upon written request.

    April 30, 2013 at 12:05 am |
  15. Bostontola

    Tom,
    If the strong nuclear force were 2% stronger than it is (i.e., if the coupling constant representing its strength were 2% larger), diprotons would be stable and hydrogen would fuse into them instead of deuterium and helium. This would drastically alter the physics of stars. There are many more examples.

    April 30, 2013 at 12:02 am |
    • Bostontola

      Sorry, meant this as a response in the string below.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:04 am |
    • The real Tom

      And what if a dozen more constants were different? You only know what IS, not what might be if many variables were not as they are. Scientists don't even yet know how many constants exist. How can you assume that you know what would occur when we don't even have all the information about what has occurred?

      April 30, 2013 at 12:09 am |
    • Bostontola

      Tom, I didn't say there was only 1 tuned peak, if you change other parameters, you just find another peak. It's still tuned. Like I said, I don't think that implies any purpose. We may find that the standard model is not the bottom line and a deeper theory shows why the standard model looks tuned, but right now its what we have and in that model, its tuned.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:13 am |
    • Variable

      LOL
      Okay, boston troll, give me the EXACT number for the cosmological constant 'e'.
      Go ahead. Look it up. You've been had. You are teh fail.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:11 am |
    • bostontola

      Variable,
      the cosmological constant is different than e. The cosmological constant is usually represented by lambda and was initially a fudge factor used by Einstein to match his theory of relativity to the observations. e is a mathematical constant that is the base of the natural logarithm. It is a transcendental number that can not be fully expressed in decimal form. What is your point other than you don't know what you are talking about.

      April 30, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
  16. Bostontola

    Step 1, distinguish belief in god from religion. Religions are man made as a fact, and most of the big ones were established before the enlightenment. Science doesn't conflict with belief in god because that is not testable. It's up to you. Science often conflicts with religion because it is testable and it often fails.

    April 29, 2013 at 11:22 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Step 2. Begin a study regarding the cosmological relevancies of spatial relativities. Leave no stone unturned.

      April 29, 2013 at 11:36 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      just like it's the existence of the big foot is not testable.... hmmm... what do big foot and god have in common?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:44 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Bootyfunk,

      I think it's time for you to leave the bar and honker home and hit the sack. What's that? Haven't finished your drink?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:48 pm |
    • Ben

      Bostontola
      Science may not disprove any gods, but if your idea of who a particular god is is based upon things you think he did, but that science proves otherwise, then science actually does disprove your god, doesn't it?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:52 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Ben , I have no god, I'm an atheist.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:14 am |
    • Variable

      For an atheist, you sure are dogmatically clinging to your intelligent design fallacy with a deathgrip like we rarely see here.
      Strange how a supposed atheist prefers the bias that comforts rather than the harsh truth of reality. Religiously. How odd.

      April 30, 2013 at 1:18 am |
    • bostontola

      variable,
      once again you are wrong. I think ID is pure BS. I have not encountered any person on this blog that claims to adhere to rational thought as "religious like" as you. All bluster, no argument.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
  17. PRISM 1234

    You can destroy religion, but God Almighty , the creator who is, was and ever will be, you'll never affect. He and His truth will endure even when the Earth, the Universe and all that's in it turns to dust.
    They can deplete all their resources, and spend the wealth of whole earth, but they will never silence the voices of those who know their Savior, Lord Jesus Christ , the Lord of glory, nor quench His Spirit lives in them, bu whose revelation their eyes were opened and their hearts received Him.... That's something the lame prophets of man's science don't possess nor can they ever comprehend.
    Let them debate, let them have their say... this is THEIR day. Our Day is only time -distance away.

    April 29, 2013 at 11:13 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      PRISM 1234,

      Where were you when classes taught you to "Seek first the Kingdom of God"? Why banter about the spilling escapades? Where have you deduced as to the location(s) of God's kingdom domains?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:21 pm |
    • GodFreeNow

      @PRISM 1234,

      Do you know the word, "conjecture"? Learn it.

      April 29, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
    • Ben

      If everyone stops worshipping him, God would not be a god anymore, right? He'd have to change his name when that happens. Any suggestions?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:46 pm |
    • Woody

      "You can destroy religion........" – PRISM 1234

      That would be a good first step.

      April 29, 2013 at 11:54 pm |
    • Answer

      "Our Day is only time -distance away."

      ===The dream that you will in a better place. That lovely empty thought ..brings so much comfort.

      Yet notice that "distance" is one thing that you have accepted. And at the moment of death that "distance" is magically traversed so you'll end up in heaven not even a nanosecond apart. The power and lure of the magical thinking.

      So much of magic talk. Make that wish. LOL

      April 30, 2013 at 12:18 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Prism the jealousy of major religions holding to their favorite gods and Prophets will cause their own destruction. Science will help us find a way to survive the aftermath and continue as human beings again..

      April 30, 2013 at 12:18 am |
    • sam stone

      all gods die, prissy

      April 30, 2013 at 4:51 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      @lionlylamb
      Dear soul, if you knew the Christ whose words you're using to propagate the seeds of this bizarre cult you're in, , and if you had the Spirit of God in you, then you would know that the one who has planted those things into your mind and has pulled you by his cords of lies, is satan the father of lies, who is holding you captive in his web of deceit. You don't know Jesus Christ, the true Shepherd, nor do you recognize His voice. His sheep hears His voice and will not follow the impostor. But you have. Pray that God will in His mercy open your eyes that you may see where you're going and who is your holding you captive!

      -----------
      As for the others...

      This is YOUR day also..... Go ahead, join your "prophets" of science, and let them give you the covering for your souls on the Day of your Appointment when the intents of your hearts be revealed, and let them stand in the gap between you and your Maker . Then you'll see that Christ Jesus is the Lord of all creation, and that believing His Word and His testimony was no "conjecturing".
      If Darwin, Sagan and many like them could come back and have a chance to recant their words, they would give anything in this world, and would trade places with lowest beggars on this earth, just to have that chance. ...
      Yet you have this chance, but you are fools....

      April 30, 2013 at 9:24 am |
    • Science

      PRISM 1234..............please share ?

      Origin of Life: Hypothesis Traces First Protocells Back to Emergence of Cell Membrane Bioenergetics

      Dec. 20, 2012 — A coherent pathway – which starts from no more than rocks, water and carbon dioxide and leads to the emergence of the strange bio-energetic properties of living cells – has been traced for the first time in a major hypothesis paper in Cell this week.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121220143530.htm

      April 30, 2013 at 9:34 am |
    • PRISM 1234

      @science
      I posted this for you on another thread, but here it is again...

      There are many brilliant brains out there who have lost their taste for what you call "cosmic soup". Anyone honest can understand why!
      Check it out.....
      http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/1207
      .....That's just for a starter, but there are many more if you're willing to research.... They see the stupidity of "cosmic soup": so perfectly seasoned and put together. and to have come into existence out of nothing?
      This foolishness has gone long enough. . Only an Intelligent Designer could make Something come out of Nothing. The FACT IS, all scientific discoveries POINT TO THAT! You should be able to see that too.
      But there is something else that's preventing man from acknowledging that. And that's the subject you and those who deny it are running from!

      April 30, 2013 at 10:17 am |
    • tallulah13

      Who made the designer, Prism? You don't get to say that there always was one, because that means something CAN come from nothing.

      People invent gods when they don't know the answers. It's a story as old as humanity. It's nothing more than putting ignorance on a pedestal and calling it god.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:26 am |
    • Richard Cranium

      Prissy
      You have said it before and you are lying again...why does there have to be an "intelligent designer". You have shown no evidence of it. Just because you cannot fathon the truths that science has discovered does not lend credibility to the god theory or goddidit. No evidence of it whatsoever.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:27 am |
    • WASP

      @1234: how to create a universe...................without the need for magic creator. 🙂

      take a super-dense singularity comprised of energy and bound by physics.
      cause a slight shift in inner forces as opposed to outer forces.
      give time.
      BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
      singularity expands in an eruption of energy that when combined as they naturally would, postive to negitive, you stat to see matter being created and destroyed in the early universe as energy particules fly at unfathomible speeds like in an atom smasher.
      as energy slows and creates matter you see the beginnings of an early universe well on it's way to creating life from the first building blocks, energy that are governed by the five laws of the universe.

      "energy CAN NOT be created nor destroyed"
      einstien's theory of general relativity shows haow matter/energy conversion is possible.
      the five forces of the universe regulate any and all occurances within known space.

      CONCLUSION: NO GOD REQUIRED.

      here's a question. where did god come from? if you need intelligence to create intelligence, then whom created GOD?
      and please don't hide behind the whole "he was always here" BS. 😉

      April 30, 2013 at 10:28 am |
  18. lionlylamb

    The cosmological relevancies is lain amidst the spatial grids of chasms great and likewise small. Many cannot or even care not to fathom the issues around the atomized and the celestial and even the cellular cosmologies that abound and are found among the spatial grids of cosmologic order. What say you regarding the cosmological constructs of spatial relativities?

    April 29, 2013 at 11:05 pm |
    • The real Tom

      I say you should stop writing in riddles and malapropisms and make sense.

      April 29, 2013 at 11:19 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      The real Tommie,

      Is my dialect finding you to be nonsensical? Cheer up! It's almost Tuesday! The Monday blahs should soon pass over! 🙂

      April 29, 2013 at 11:25 pm |
    • Athy

      Everyone finds your dialect non-sensible, Lionly. Can't you construct a sentence one can understand?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:35 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Athy,

      What grade level did you accomplish? High school dropout maybe? No? Maybe you went to college? Maybe not?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:40 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Is my dialect finding you to be nonsensical?

      No, I am finding you and your dialect to be idiotic. If you want to discuss something then stop posting such dreck. It is utterly meaningless.

      April 29, 2013 at 11:41 pm |
    • The real Tom

      You ninny, LL, there's nothing wrong with Athy or me. Neither of us are at fault here. Your writing is unintelligible. How many people have to tell you that for it to sink in? It's not because the reader lacks intelligence that he cannot understand you. It's because what you write is nothing but strings of words, many of which don't mean what you think they do, and the rest of which don't qualify as words at all.

      April 29, 2013 at 11:43 pm |
    • Athy

      Actually, I have a masters degree in electronic engineering and an MBA. How about you, Lionly?

      April 29, 2013 at 11:47 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Does a 'client' degree in psychiatry count? LoL!

      I'm too smart for any more schooling. I know, I know! What a twerp LL is! I resonate with the socially declared unreasonable and still have rooms to spare! Time for a few more tokes before I make it to the last round up! BRB!

      April 30, 2013 at 12:00 am |
    • Athy

      Well, that figures.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:02 am |
    • The real Tom

      You sound like you've had more than one too many tokes, you addle–brained coot. You've pickled your cerebrum and probably damaged your amygdala.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:04 am |
    • lionlylamb

      Tommie N Athy,

      I have much time on my hands and meditate/dream about the tranquilities of Cosmologic relationships. Is it really too hard for some folks to understand such relational relevancies of orderly cosmologies be they great in size or extremely small in nature?

      April 30, 2013 at 12:08 am |
    • The real Tom

      It might not be if you could write a sentence that had a point and used actual words. If all you're intending to do is babble and you don't care if anyone knows what the fvck you're talking about, then fine. You've achieved your goal, LL. Otherwise, knock if off and don't start in with blaming the reader for not being able to see through your brain fog.

      April 30, 2013 at 12:11 am |
    • lionlylamb

      Tommie,

      I'm really sorry that my 'brain fog' is too thick to see thru. I am at a loss to reconcile. I write down what I see in my thoughts. My sense of smell isn't what it use to be but the smell of Mary Jane smells ever so sweet though! Funny thing about toke. It's also brother and I's mother's name! Gosh, I sure do wish MJ's were legal nation wide! I would make fudge brownies and peanut butter cookies! Maybe even give up smoking it!

      April 30, 2013 at 12:28 am |
  19. MrCrewel Dude

    What?

    April 29, 2013 at 10:53 pm |
  20. The Non Believer

    CNN you should be ashamed. Global News interview of Dawkins and Krauss was so much better. They got twice the time and no slippery reporter tried to sneak in a religious fait accompli at the end.

    April 29, 2013 at 10:33 pm |
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