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April 29th, 2013
10:51 AM ET

New film examines science vs. religion

(CNN) – Lawrence Krauss and Richard Dawkins discuss religion in the modern world and debate science in their new film.

- Dan Merica

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  1. Realist

    ******* does Tebow'sgod really hate him that much? His most devoted quarterback? So much that he strips him of all of his talent ... So that he SUCKS as a quarterback?

    May 1, 2013 at 10:28 am |
    • Realist

      Hahahahahahahahahahaha

      May 1, 2013 at 10:29 am |
    • {*}

      The scenario you just described is a very old one. Read the book of Job. That old bible is always relevant because it address the closest thing to us.....our own human nature, which never changes.

      May 1, 2013 at 11:18 am |
    • Science

      {*} .............rather read the fossil records................... OK........... education for works or children !

      First Snapshot of Organisms Eating Each Other: Feast Clue to Smell of Ancient Earth

      Apr. 29, 2013 — Tiny 1,900 million-year-old fossils from rocks around Lake Superior, Canada, give the first ever snapshot of organisms eating each other and suggest what the ancient Earth would have smelled like.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130429154107.htm

      May 1, 2013 at 11:32 am |
    • Honey Badger Don't Care!

      {*},

      The story of Job just tells how much of a prlck that your god is. He made a bet with the devil about how much faith that Job had?!?!?!?!?!? Doesn’t he already know this shlt? Kills his family, his livestock, and give him diseases to test his faith? What an azzhole. If that god exists he his not worthy of my worship that’s for sure.

      May 1, 2013 at 11:41 am |
    • In Santa we trust

      {*}
      Why would an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent god need to do that? Oh but then the bible couldn't attribute the ups and downs of life to a supernatural cause. God's action/inaction is indistinguishable from pure good/bad fortune.

      May 1, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
  2. Last Breath Society

    Someone has said only 2 things are certain;

    Death and taxes

    We know how taxes work

    What about death?

    Everything was conjecture

    – as you take your last breath

    May 1, 2013 at 10:10 am |
  3. Sheila

    Wow, a sausage party of dorks. Remarkable.

    May 1, 2013 at 8:55 am |
    • Honey Hush

      Sheila
      And your lipstick on every one.

      May 1, 2013 at 9:15 am |
  4. Thane

    Because religulous was so "insightful".

    May 1, 2013 at 8:54 am |
    • fintastic

      Actually, yes it was. A great look into the stupidity of religion.

      May 2, 2013 at 10:42 am |
  5. kamanalono

    Q: why can’t gods be seen, heard or touched?
    A: there are no such things as gods.

    May 1, 2013 at 8:39 am |
    • {*}

      Why can't gods be seen, heard, or touched? Are you convinced that your five senses are enough to pick up all the information available? Even data detected by scientific instruments has to be interpreted by our senses. If you think these are enough, you are a person of Assumption, the materialist equivalent of Faith.

      May 1, 2013 at 11:23 am |
      • kamanalono

        Your deliberately evading the query: why can't gods be seen, heard or touched? Billions have been asked but not a single person has ever been able to explain why gods cannot be seen, heard or touched.

        May 19, 2013 at 8:00 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      "Are you convinced that your five senses are enough to pick up all the information available?"

      Do you have a better way to pick up information besides our senses? Can you objectively demonstrate it?

      May 1, 2013 at 11:50 am |
  6. Austin

    you can explain religious crazies the same as explaining an atheist. but it you are an atheist, you have no confidant ability to explain the revealing of God's word. Because you have never experienced it. So you don't know.

    Quit acting like you know.

    2 Corinthians 6:16 ►

    What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."

    May 1, 2013 at 7:26 am |
    • Science

      Wow .........austin..............thanks for helping !

      May 1, 2013 at 7:50 am |
    • MarkP

      Austin
      What "revealing of God's word" are you referring to? Do you actually believe that stories written after events actually show some kind of future-predicting ability?

      May 1, 2013 at 8:27 am |
    • fintastic

      Austin, why do you lie for baby jeebus?

      May 1, 2013 at 8:36 am |
    • sam stone

      thanks, austin. really cleared that up

      May 1, 2013 at 9:07 am |
    • Science

      facts work best for teaching children !.......You have seen this too Austin

      Evolution wins hands down ..........time for god(s) to get the HELL out of the way................so humanity can evolve !

      Dinosaur Egg Study Supports Evolutionary Link Between Birds and Dinosaurs: How Troodon Likely Hatched Its Young

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418104324.htm

      May 1, 2013 at 9:09 am |
    • Hal

      Austin, nobody is hearing from God! That's easy to see. All read the bible, all claim to hear the 'voice' of the Holy Spirit', yet we have Calvinists, Lutherans, Baptists,Pentecostal,Reformed,Mormons, Catholics & too many others.

      Obviously, somebody's NOT getting the correct message from god! Why would any god's 'voice' reveal so many conflicting views? There can only be one real answer: He does not exist & people are only justifying the desires of their heart using the authority of God!

      May 1, 2013 at 10:49 am |
    • Science

      Unusual Anal Fin Offers New Insight Into Evolution..................you might want to check where it is at Austin

      Apr. 10, 2013 — An unusual fossil fish that has fins behind its anus

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130410082201.htm

      Use your brain that evolution created !

      May 1, 2013 at 10:50 am |
    • Science

      Now is the time............Austin to use the brain evolution gave you OK !

      May 1, 2013 at 11:16 am |
    • Science

      And read the fossil records instead of the bible !

      rather read the fossil records................... OK........... education for works or children !

      First Snapshot of Organisms Eating Each Other: Feast Clue to Smell of Ancient Earth

      Apr. 29, 2013 — Tiny 1,900 million-year-old fossils from rocks around Lake Superior, Canada, give the first ever snapshot of organisms eating each other and suggest what the ancient Earth would have smelled like.

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130429154107.htm

      May 1, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • Which God?

      Austin, did that make sense to you when you wrote it? What bullschit.

      May 1, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
  7. Christian to Atheist translation service

    Christianese word "God" = Atheistese word = "Super ego"

    su·per·e·go
    [soo-per-ee-goh, -eg-oh] Show IPA

    noun, plural su·per·e·gos. Psychoanalysis .
    the part of the personality representing the conscience, formed in early life by internalization of the standards of parents and other models of behavior.

    May 1, 2013 at 7:12 am |
  8. saggyroy

    Richard Dawkins is my co-pilot.

    May 1, 2013 at 5:46 am |
  9. biggles

    The twisted mind of the evil one gushes from her onto these pages. Everything is backwards. Everything is exactly and completely wrong. Her hatred and jealousy rule the thoughts of her prisoners who complain night and day about the only one who really loves them. Just like evil

    May 1, 2013 at 3:19 am |
    • The real Tom

      What? You love them? No wonder they're complaining about you.

      May 1, 2013 at 6:19 am |
    • ..

      We understand, biggles. "faith" is quite prolific. Perhaps not intentionally evil.

      May 1, 2013 at 9:04 am |
  10. Dsculpin

    I thank god every day for making me an athiest.

    May 1, 2013 at 1:14 am |
  11. Liam

    Ah angry atheists. Yay..

    May 1, 2013 at 12:45 am |
    • Shabazmo

      Exactamundo.

      May 1, 2013 at 12:49 am |
    • sam stone

      Ah. Pompous theists. Yay

      May 1, 2013 at 5:40 am |
  12. Salero21

    Atheism continues to be stupidity in Full bloom.

    April 30, 2013 at 11:35 pm |
    • Polly

      Wants a crack er...bwwwwaaaakkkk

      April 30, 2013 at 11:43 pm |
    • biggles

      Atheism is the only religion that teaches that you have nothing to worry about, ever, and neither does anyone else without any scientific proof.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:48 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Have you threatened your children with eternal damnation today?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:54 pm |
    • biggles

      No. Have you done everything you can possibly do to warn your kids about that slum of enslavement and agony and misery, that most dreaded place in all the universe? Will you, please? Before it is too late? What do you lose?

      May 1, 2013 at 3:23 am |
    • wjm

      There is an old saying "Never are with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience" you win.

      May 1, 2013 at 5:04 am |
    • sam stone

      If you are any indication, Biggles, apparently you lose your ballz

      May 1, 2013 at 5:42 am |
    • MarkP

      biggles
      Exactly! That's why atheism isn't a religion, because it does reveal to you that you don't have any afterlife to worry about. Only religions try to frighten people into submitting to their authority. Atheism is freedom from this fear.

      May 1, 2013 at 8:32 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Wow biggles, they really got to you. I have good news, real good news. There is no boogey man, there is no hell. I feel sorry for you that you are conviced any loving god would act in such a way. It's ok, you can come down off the ledge now.

      May 1, 2013 at 11:05 am |
    • sam stone

      "It's ok, you can come down off the ledge now."

      fvck that, biggles, jump. jeebus is waiting on you

      May 1, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      They had to put the 'killing yourself is a sin' part in Sam or the true believers alll would.

      May 1, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      saltshaker still making baseless comments. If you aspire to be a cut-price fred – great news you've made it

      May 1, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
  13. Joe

    Thank you, Universe, for Richard Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss.

    April 30, 2013 at 11:23 pm |
  14. Post-it Note

    Jesus Christ of Nazareth died for the sins of those that believe him and repent of their sins. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob made the entire universe, all of it. Thank you God for life and all you've done for us.

    April 30, 2013 at 10:39 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Unconditional love.....with one condition.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:42 pm |
    • Chad

      actually, there are no conditions on the love.
      there is a condition on reconciliation.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:54 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Ohhh....well that's different then...IYou are right. I am going to take what your are saying and apply God's teaching to my life and the life of my son. He is young enough so I can leave his life and he will not remember me, I will however have my neighbor down the street write a book about me and let my son know I exist. I will return to his life when he is about 40 years old, if at that time he believes I am his father and he loves me I will buy him a car, if he does not I will set him on fire. It all makes sense now, whatever happens he is responsible for the outcome, I will have done everything I can, my conscience will be clean.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:06 pm |
    • Athy

      Wow. What some people believe. Utterly amazing.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:21 pm |
    • Joe

      God loves you so much, that he created hell in case you don't love him back... lol.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:25 pm |
    • MarkP

      Chad
      That's like saying that there's no charge for the apples, but there's a cover charge to get onto the farm.

      April 30, 2013 at 11:34 pm |
    • biggles

      Believing in your dad is the most difficult, painstaking, cruel, horrible, twisted, perverted, disgusting, evil, wicked, dark, sinful, dangerous, deplorably wicked, nasty, duplicitous, inhumane thing any one could ever try to force down your throat.

      May 1, 2013 at 3:10 am |
    • biggles

      You love something more than god and it is driving you insane. No one knows. You play cool. Big shot skeptic. You know there's a hell. No question. It is burning inside you all the time

      May 1, 2013 at 3:13 am |
    • biggles

      It is like saying all I ever had is yours. You can't partake if you are not here.

      May 1, 2013 at 3:15 am |
    • sam stone

      Yeah....thanks for the entrapment

      May 1, 2013 at 5:44 am |
    • kamanalono

      When india collided with asia millions of years ago there were millions of people on both india and asia. The jews only go back about 8000-12000 years. So the jewish god cannot be much more than 12ooo years old.

      May 1, 2013 at 8:23 am |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      biggles,

      Believing in your god is the most difficult, painstaking, cruel, horrible, twisted, perverted, disgusting, evil, wicked, dark, sinful, dangerous, deplorably wicked, nasty, duplicitous, inhumane thing any one could ever try to force down your throat.

      ****fixed****

      May 1, 2013 at 11:17 am |
  15. jj

    Thank god for these great people.

    April 30, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
  16. A tiny orange

    What would happen to this blog if there were no stereotyping or name calling of any sort for a while and everybody got right to the point?

    April 30, 2013 at 9:15 pm |
    • Pole dancing for Jesus

      You can't have seen posts by Chad, fred, Topher, and others. Sophistry, circular arguments. None so blind as those who will not see.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm |
    • Stephanie

      This blog would have been much shorter and there would not have been as many good discussions (even though many of the folks here have been kind of a pain). Annonymity sometimes makes it too easy to be hateful.

      May 1, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
  17. the AnViL™

    religion can make this country what it once was...

    a barren wasteland covered with ice

    ~

    those that believe in the existence of an imaginary man in the sky are delusional.

    they should be prohibited from voting, serving on a jury, running for or holding any public office, purchasing or owning firearms, teaching public school, and having any contact with children under the age of 18.

    tolerance of religious idiocy has to end – the sooner the better – and by any means necessary.

    .

    April 30, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • Lolo

      you must be so much fun in real life

      April 30, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
    • DavidTX

      Just another rational human who has run out of patience for the fools and those taking advantage of them.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:12 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Secular or atheistic intolerance feeds the psyche and deadens Life's awareness to rationalize thoughtfully.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:13 pm |
    • Akira

      Religious intolerance does the same. Intolerance of any sort deadens life's awareness to rationalize thoughtfully.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:29 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Akira,

      The religions that tolerate all of Life's understandings be they the intolerant ideologies makes Life tolerable for the intolerant ones.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:42 pm |
    • Akira

      Whatever, ll. Intolerance of any sort sucks.

      April 30, 2013 at 8:52 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Akira,

      Your intolerance toward my Word is showing your frustration for honesty's comprehensiveness

      April 30, 2013 at 9:18 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Blasphemy is a victimless crime.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:41 pm |
    • ouldmould

      Paraphrasing Steve Martin, eh?

      April 30, 2013 at 10:53 pm |
    • Akira

      Indifference isn't the same thing as intolerance. "Whatever" denotes indifference, lionlylamb.
      Why do you capitalize "word"? Do you think your words are sacrosanct?

      April 30, 2013 at 11:33 pm |
    • questioneverything

      kind of like the atom bomb

      May 1, 2013 at 1:15 am |
    • Ted Hewlett

      So this is your blueprint for an atheist society: " they [theists] should be prohibited from voting, serving on a jury, running for or holding any public office [etc.]" So much for the fate of democracy under atheists. Oh, wait, we have already seen the working of this ideology: Joseph Stalin, Paul Pot, Mao . ;. . .

      May 1, 2013 at 3:28 am |
    • biggles

      Report this terrorist and her threats. She needs FBI resources applied, yesterday. CNN will be brought down for encouraging this terrorist to post her violent threats. Mark my word. You think I'm kidding. Hide and watch.

      May 1, 2013 at 3:28 am |
    • the AnViL™

      Ted Hewlett:

      were you aware that the constitutions of several states prohibit atheists from serving on juries, running for public office, etc? no, of course you weren't... because you're an ignorant shithead.

      i love it how retarded people such as yourself get all bent out of shape when anyone suggests reversing things.

      hilarious.

      May 1, 2013 at 7:55 am |
    • Laurence Charles Ringo

      Take a deep breath,"Anvil";you sound like one of those atheist nutjobs.

      May 1, 2013 at 9:36 am |
    • the AnViL™

      Laurence Charles Ringo – it's Mister the AnViL™ to you, bub.

      and:

      if people can't take a wee little bit of comical mayhem, too bad.

      i'm entertained and that's all that matters.

      also:

      tolerance of religious idiocy is worse than religious idiocy itself.

      enough is enough

      finally:

      have a swell day (or else).

      May 1, 2013 at 12:50 pm |
  18. {*}

    " I challenge any Christian to compare their ethics to those offered by Humanism" The two ethics systems are not in the same arena. Christianity is about radical love: turn the other cheek, do good to those hate you, love your enemies. Christian ethics are of a higher order. Anybody can be a "nice guy". If he will. And this is the level on which humanists find themselves.
    At the moment, Humanists are spending large amounts of money litigating to get Ten Commandments plaques and crosses removed from public sight. In full view of these humanists are people hungry and in need. A "humanist" artist recently made a portrait of Pope Benedict using thousands of condoms. How many condoms did she send to any clinic in Africa?

    April 30, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      You're speaking more about secularists, who can also be humanists. But to merely label the people brining these things up as humanists only is exceedingly dishonest.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Chance

      @HG the point above still remains, all you did was want to label a narrow group. You did nothing to refute was said.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Chance

      Oh it's you again. Tell me, do you think that people only fall under a single label, or their actions that you don't like constitute the entirety of their actions at every point in time?

      April 30, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
    • Salero21

      Humanism is more akin to Amoralism while atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
    • Chance

      @HG Sure miss labeling a group of people is off base. That's not my point or the point of the comment above. Your focusing on the labeling and not on the actions listed. Move on about the labeling and defend the actions mentioned.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
    • hawaiiguest

      @Chance

      How about the fact that having sectarian, religious messages and symbols at the expense of taxpayer money is not only unfair, but unconstitutional as well as a complete waste of resources.
      The labeling is important because not only is it inaccurate, but it is also misleading, and an attempt to try and disenfranchise people.
      As for the portrait of Benedict, why would anyone need to defend that? What about it is necessary to defend?

      April 30, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • HUH!

      "What evidence do you have that "atheism is stupidity in full bloom"
      You and majority of posters on this blog!

      April 30, 2013 at 8:06 pm |
    • Brian

      """ " I challenge any Christian to compare their ethics to those offered by Humanism" The two ethics systems are not in the same arena. Christianity is about radical love: turn the other cheek, do good to those hate you, love your enemies. Christian ethics are of a higher order. Anybody can be a "nice guy". If he will. And this is the level on which humanists find themselves. """

      Well, then if that's Christianity, there is no such thing as a Christian today. However, when it comes to the "ethics" of Christianity, history would like to have a word with you. Christians have been some of the most violent people in the world. Starting entire wars over their religion. Christianity is full of hypocrisy. Thou shalt not kill. Well you see, about that, there is these couple blasphemers, it must be OK to kill them. And these people who don't believe it Christianity, it's OK to kill them. And those people, it's OK to hate them.

      Of course as you read that, you are going to deny it. Most "Christians", I have found, are incapable of thinking past their religion. They wouldn't see evidence that contradicts their religion if it hit them in the face.

      Now is this every Christian? No. Just the vast majority that I've run into.

      """ At the moment, Humanists are spending large amounts of money litigating to get Ten Commandments plaques and crosses removed from public sight. In full view of these humanists are people hungry and in need. A "humanist" artist recently made a portrait of Pope Benedict using thousands of condoms. How many condoms did she send to any clinic in Africa? """

      Confusing Humanists with secularists. While a humanist can be a secularist and vice versa, they don't imply the other. Also, I commend those trying to remove religious symbols from public property. We are a secular government, with a country where you are free to practice what you wish. We are not "a christian nation" and never were meant to be "a christian nation".

      April 30, 2013 at 8:57 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      While I agree that poverty and famine are important issues, I think you need to look at the money spent by religions on their real estate and depending upon the religion expensive lifestyles (wealth gospel) and expensive hierarchy (RCC). These are huge sums of money and amount to a lot more than a few billboards.

      April 30, 2013 at 9:41 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      solero 21..so only a belief in a alien makes you sensible...

      April 30, 2013 at 10:02 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Christianity is based on the belief that Jesus is god and if one does not believe that, they are eternally punished for their non-belief. Not very moral or ethical.

      The gov't of the U.S. is and should be secular. Removing Christianity from gov't is a noble and important cause and one that I financially support.

      April 30, 2013 at 10:37 pm |
    • HUH!

      Hey, cheese, you don't believe in Christ because of what Christ says about you. The fact that Jesus Christ faces man with reality of his own co.ndition... THAT is at the core of man's rejection of Him.

      May 1, 2013 at 7:47 am |
    • fintastic

      @saltshaker21.............. Every one of your posts is "stupidity in full bloom" .... everyone is laughing at you...

      Thank you for representing your ignorant make believe religion. Every post you make is a boost to atheism!

      May 1, 2013 at 8:47 am |
    • momo

      @Salero21

      Humanism is more akin to Amoralism while atheism is stupidity in Full bloom.

      ...and religiosity is insanity ripe for the picking.

      May 1, 2013 at 9:45 am |
  19. trollintraining

    Depends on how you define 'bigot', obviously.
    To judge everyone in the KKK i can see. But what about puting all boyscouts into one hated group. They do discriminate against gays.
    What if i want to decide all feminists are wrong and discriminate against them? Is that good for you?
    Where do you drop the self-rightous BS and treat ALL people like ..... people?

    April 30, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • Chance

      @troll
      if someone disagrees with a lifestyle it doesn't mean they are not treating them like people, they just disagree.

      April 30, 2013 at 5:44 pm |
  20. trollintraining

    Ah yes, ignore the content and attack a typo.
    Good arguement there you insecure dweeb.

    April 30, 2013 at 4:41 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      says the guy making an ad hominem attack...

      April 30, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
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