May 2nd, 2013
12:52 PM ET

Ex-NFL player's support for gay NBA player apparently costs him church appearance

By Dan Merica, CNN
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Washington (CNN) – LeRoy Butler, a former safety for the Green Bay Packers, is one of many professional athletes to tweet support for Jason Collins, the NBA player who came out as gay this week.

“Congrats to Jason Collins,” Butler tweeted April 29, the day Collins came out in a Sports Illustrated cover story.

But Butler says the four-word tweet cost him a speaking appearance at a Wisconsin church.

He was scheduled to speak at the church (whose name he has not revealed) about bullying and his new book, "The LeRoy Butler Story: From Wheelchair to the Lambeau Leap." That was until the church, according to Butler, told him he was no longer welcome because of his tweet in support of Collins.

"The pastor called me and that's when we got into the old, the whole religion thing about gay people and things of that nature and the conversation just went back and forth for us a couple of minutes," Butler told Anderson Cooper on Thursday.

After the exchange with the pastor, Butler took to twitter to express his frustration.

Butler later tweeted that “some parents went to the church and complained about my tweet” supporting Collins. The church, according to Butler, said that if the football player apologized, he would be allowed to speak.

"They basically said this, if you apologize, ask God for forgiveness and remove the tweet, you'll be able to do this speaking engagement with the kids," he said. "I won't do that. That's taking my dignity and respect away."

He continued: "I told the pastor, blame it on my mom because my mom brought me up to love everybody."

Butler recently tweeted that the church apologized for the incident and thanked him “for not releasing the church name.”

Butler played 11 years, from 1990 to 2001, with the Packers and helped them win a Super Bowl in 1997. He was a four-time All-Pro selection, the highest honor for a year of work in the NFL, and is credited with inventing the Lambeau Leap, the iconic touchdown celebration in which a Packer leaps into the Lambeau Field stands to celebrate with fans.

As for Butler's stance on gay athletes in professional sports, he said they have "support from straight guys like me that won't judge them."

"If we win a Super Bowl ring, I don't care who you bring to the ring ceremony, I just want to win the ring," Butler said. "That's what it's all about. ... Isn't that what it's all about? Winning the championship? Not who is in my bed when I turn the lights out."

Since retiring, Butler has been active in the Green Bay community, and his Facebook page chronicles appearances and speeches he has given to churches in the area.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Belief • Same-sex marriage

soundoff (3,002 Responses)
  1. His panic

    I think he may be falling into a state of Panic seeing the source of some of his income disappearing.

    Some people do Panic when their only source of income disappears. Panic affects both men and women, it also affects animals. Panic has been the cause of many stampedes among animals and people. It has been the cause of many riots and much violence.

    However those who trust in God and in Jesus Christ will not Panic.

    May 3, 2013 at 1:39 pm |
    • Akira

      I actually don't think he's dependent on that one speaking engagement for the whole of his income.
      As a matter if fact, this will probably bring him more speaking engagements.
      He's not in a state of "Panic", lol.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
    • ME II

      Not sure what you mean by panic, but supposedly even Peter denied Jesus three times. He must have just forgotten that he knew Him.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
    • Fundies are, in fact Panicking! LOL


      May 3, 2013 at 1:47 pm |
    • Daniel

      "However those who trust in God and in Jesus Christ will not Panic"

      I hate to tell you this, but those are the only one's showing signs of panic. The Christians today are in a state of continual panic. They panic about the state of the government, they panic about the state of their Church, they panic about what their neighbors are doing in the bedroom, they panic at brown skinned people, they panic at the sight of a turban, they panic if someone says "Happy Holiday" instead of "Merry Christmas!". They might as well rename Fox News "Ruperts Panic Parade" for all the chaos they manufacture. The only sad thing is that some people actually buy into their panic which just means better sales for their advertisers, buy gold, buy guns, buy panic buttons, buy buy buy. Well, you Christian nut jobs bought it all right.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:49 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      The followers of Harold Camping who all trusted in God and Jesus..... definitely panicked.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
    • sam

      I vote that post of the day goes to Daniel.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:51 pm |
    • Mirror

      No my fellow human, it is you who is in a state of panic. Those who grasp for straws (where does he even hint at being panicked?) and relate everything to religion are obviously in state of panic that the world is changing and there is nothing they can do about it.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:55 pm |
    • Akira

      Second sam's nomination. Daniel's got my vote.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
    • His panic

      omG! I have followers, I can't believe it! And is clear that they are showing signs and symptoms of some mild forms of Panic and hysteria. Hysteria and Panic are similar, however hysteria was commonly used to describe a certain set of symptoms in women. 😉 Those who trust in God and in Jesus Christ WILL NOT Panic. Animals do panic, people do panic but those who trust in God and in Jesus Christ God's Son will not Panic, even the Pope Panic I may be his Panic. 😉

      May 3, 2013 at 2:03 pm |
    • hawaiiguest


      You realize that you're just a joke here right? No one actually takes your constant stupidity seriously.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
    • Which God?

      His panic. You are deluded. You are the only one talking about panicing. HG has it right, no one takes you seriously. I don't think we will answer you any more, troll, just ignore you, like ignoring lol or the goofball Islam nut-job..

      May 3, 2013 at 2:14 pm |
    • hawaiiguest


      You know, it really is exceedingly pathetic to build your entire persona here around saying everyone is panicking and plugging your god in there at some points.
      I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't such a moron.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm |
    • Bill Deacon

      Sorry to tell you Hawaii but he's not a moron. He's his panic.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • Science

      His Panic SPLAT !

      Free speech helps educate the masses................POLITICIANS too !

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      May 3, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • hawaiiguest


      And you're not humane, merely an excuse machine for your religion.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • Tim

      It's more likely that the church in question would panic if it was identified. Thus their grat.itude to him.

      May 3, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
  2. boocat

    More "christian" hypocrites. I'm shocked. PLEASE NOTE SARCASM.

    May 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm |
    • Fran

      More thugs from the gaystapo trying to intimidate people into accepting them. Zany. Yawn

      May 3, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • sam

      'Fran' = 'The Eddie' = 'HS' = 'lol??'

      May 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Actually sam, I just read this post now and wanted to tell Fran, good post.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
  3. Lucifer's Evil Twin

    Same sh!t... different day. Boring...

    May 3, 2013 at 1:32 pm |
  4. LetThemChoose

    Gotta love the bible thumpers. Do you think disobedient children should be stoned? Do you think children that curse their parents should be put to death?

    Bunch of hypocrites.

    May 3, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • lol??

      Would you be willing to do a science experiment in proving life after death?

      May 3, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
    • Correctlycenter

      The only "Stoning" going on today is the devil having his way with disfunctional people living their lives on drugs, alcohol, laziness and perversion...

      May 3, 2013 at 1:30 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      You forgot dancing and Rock & Roll music...

      May 3, 2013 at 1:38 pm |
    • Which God?

      The only pervert is you, in-correctlycenter. You are a pitiful excuse for a human being. Your trash talk becomes you, as it fits your perverted personality.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Typical fools who refuse to learn His wisdom haven't a clue that these scriptures explain the 2nd death of the soul for refusing to learn, comprehend and abide in His truth.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Is that what you think you're doing on here, HS? Really? You are incredibly hateful.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom, do you believe stalking me on this article is considered "nice" in your mind's eye?

      May 4, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
  5. C.H.U.R.C.H

    Clergy Helping Unleash Religion Controlled Hate

    May 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • F.R.U.I.T

      Forget. Religious rights.Universal hatred. Is our way. For churches we can't control or intimidate.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm |
    • F.R.U.I.T

      Religious rights.
      Universal hatred.
      Is our way. To
      To churches we can't control or intimidate.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:23 pm |
  6. Holy Man

    Let's see, Jesus said to "love your neighbor as yourself." I don't recall him mentioning anything about judging people for their opinions. These "Christians" live up to their reputation as medieval, uneducated, backward, inbred hillbillies.

    (I don't call myself a Christian, so I can feel free to judge all I want.)

    May 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Judging Is Believing.

      Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right? (Luke 12:57)

      What is right?

      The statutes of the Lord are right (Psalm 19:8)


      May 4, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
  7. The Eddie

    You better get ready to man up Christians . Evidently you can be oppressed by the Gaystapo and its media allies for NOT even having an opinion on gay stuff:


    May 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • Daniel

      If dumb were a currency you'd be stinking rich!!

      May 3, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
    • I'm 45, live with my parents, and hate gays

      That's right!

      May 3, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
  8. nathandf

    I know most of you don't get this...it is CNN after all...but most organizations that exist in America do not promote something that they come into disagreement with. Makes sense to me. I'll go out on a limb here and say that there are church and secular organizations that have chosen not to promote the gay lifestyle – let that sink in...

    If your church believes that the Bible is inspired by God, then you had better follow what you believe the Bible (God) to say about many different human behaviors. If you don't believe that, then from the perspective those who do believe, your argument is not with them – but with God. Cursing them is irrelevant but poster here seem to think they have a vote on truth.

    Interesting how hateful people are towards those are hateful – works both ways folks – read your own posts!!

    May 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm |
    • sybaris

      That's all fine but then I'll wager most of the parishoners of that church, or any other church for that matter, have practiced/do practice a behavior that is in disagreement with their invisble sky fairies dogma.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • lol??

      Too bad it's too late to repair the damage the socialists did to the gubmint. The Christians let em muscle into every aspect of existence. Outnumbered of course.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • Daniel

      I have no problem with Christians saying "I do not believe being gay would please my God", that is freedom of speech. I do have a problem with Christians saying "I do not believe gay's should have access to the same civil benefits awarded me by the government and I will actively block any of their attempts to gain those same rights." That is the difference. You can even say "I don't think blacks and whites should marry." that's an opinion and you show yourself a racist and a bigot but thats your right, but if you actively work to deny those rights to others that is where you cross the line.

      If there is a vote on your ballot that has to do with gay rights and your opinion won't let you vote in favor of those rights, then leave that box blank, it doesn't concern you. But to vote to deny people the same rights you enjoy that does not take any rights away from you and doesn't apply to you because you are not gay, then thats just being a disgusting bigoted azzhole who doesn't deserve the rights they have been given by this great nation of freedom...

      May 3, 2013 at 1:41 pm |
    • sam

      He wasn't 'promoting' something by saying congrats to his friend. They overreacted and then FFS told him he needed to delete the message and ask god for forgiveness.

      Calling out ridiculous intolerance is not 'hate'. Go flush your head.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm |
  9. Just Curious

    Makes me wonder why anyone would pay this guy $8,500 to talk about anything. Surely the church (or anyone else for that matter) would have something better to do with their money.

    May 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm |
    • Dan

      "Surely the church (or anyone else for that matter) would have something better to do with their money."

      Like spending it on keeping victims of it's abuse silent? The Catholic Church has spent $3.3 billion in the last 15 years alone paying off the familys of children the Priests r a p e d.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
    • LetThemChoose

      Because it's their money and their decision and no one has to approve of it.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:27 pm |
  10. Finally

    2000 years of oppression and hate, finally we get to speak our mind's, speak truth to power, to tell these disgusting w ho res for God to get to the back of the bus if they are unwilling to be civil and share the same rights they enjoy with every citizen of this nation. Hooray for the internet and hooray for freedom of speech and equal rights for all!!

    May 3, 2013 at 1:00 pm |
    • ME II

      ... and which god approves of your vomiting bile all over this web site?

      May 3, 2013 at 1:11 pm |
    • ME II

      Actually, I'm neither offended by your speech, nor saying you can't speak. I'm just saying that your speech is ugly and wrong and if your god approves of such then so is He.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • Dean

      That also includes having the right to not want a speaker who displays beliefs that are not the same as yours

      May 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
    • Daniel

      I have no problem with Christians saying "I do not believe being gay would please my God", that is freedom of speech. I do have a problem with Christians saying "I do not believe gay's should have access to the same civil benefits awarded me by the government and I will actively block any of their attempts to gain those same rights." That is the difference. You can even say "I don't think blacks and whites should marry." that's an opinion and you show yourself a racist and a bigot but thats your right, but if you actively work to deny those rights to others that is where you cross the line.

      If there is a vote on your ballot that has to do with gay rights and your opinion won't let you vote in favor of those rights, then leave that box blank, it doesn't concern you. But to vote to deny people the same rights you enjoy that does not take any rights away from you and doesn't apply to you because you are not gay, then thats just being a disgusting bigoted azzhole who doesn't deserve the rights they have been given by this great nation of freedom.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:37 pm |
  11. Chris Hogan

    So this church only supports free speech if it is speech that they agree with. Weren't they the ones flocking to Chick Fil A "Appreciation" day last summer to "stand up for free speech"?

    May 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm |
    • Dean

      They weren't denying free speech, they were just not willing to pay for a speech they didn't like.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm |
    • sam

      @Dean – you missed the part where they asked him to delete his message and ask god for forgiveness. For doing nothing more than congratulating his friend.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
    • Brian

      Chris, I don't believe they restricted his right to free speech. They're just not going to pay him $8500 to listen to it.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm |
  12. TruthandConsequence

    While everyone is congratulating Collins for his "courage", most forget he strung his girl friend along for eight years, doubtlessly doing the hetero thing and making marriage plans, then she got stiffed. What a hero.

    May 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm |
    • Madtown

      Maybe he was confused, hearing for all his life that he'd be wrong for living that way, even if he felt it was natural for him. Maybe he didn't want to face the unrelenting critique and damnation from people like you. Maybe he just finally came to terms with who he is, and how he was made, and is now comfortable with that.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:54 pm |
    • TJG

      From the ex: "I care about [Jason] tremendously and only want the best for him. I want Jason to be happy for a lifetime and stay true to who he really is, inside and out," she said.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm |
    • Jim

      The only sad part is the fact that he felt he had to hide who he was for so long acting out the role that prejudiced bigots forced on the sports world in claiming you can't be a team player and role model while also being true to yourself.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm |
    • Stu

      yea if only he felt he had a different option other than trying to pretend to be someone out of fear from being judged by the likes of you.... showing the damage that is done when people live in fear of bigots, hate, and judgement. Have no fear history will judge him correctly not you.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:26 pm |
    • sam

      He was only trying to do what society kept demanding he do – and what a lot of christians will say he should do. Pretend to be straight. NOW you're bitching about it?

      May 3, 2013 at 1:45 pm |
  13. The Eddie

    Bottom Line: Everyone wins except the Gaystapo haters.

    May 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm |
    • DavidTX

      I'm fine with the haters losing.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm |
    • lol??

      Moos, too?

      May 3, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
    • Jim

      There is no Gaystapo or Gay agenda, there is just equal rights and the bigots who continue to deny equal rights for all.

      bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

      Equal rights is not an opinion, it's part of our founding principles as a nation. Bigots don't care about equal rights, they only care about their own right to spread as much hate and vitriol as possible. The only thing as a nation we cannot tolerate is intolerance.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:16 pm |
    • sam

      You must be able to come up with better trolling than this.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
    • The Eddie

      Nah theres no Gaystapo... No one is desperately trying to bully anyone to accept their putrid lifestyle. Nearly 1800 comments later that is. 🙂 pfft.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
  14. winchester74

    which one is the true Christian – the pastor or Leroy ???

    May 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
    • ed dugan

      The "true" christian is the pastor, a bigoted, ignorant piece of crap that is the mirror image of his church members. What a disgusting individual and an even more disgusting religion.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm |
    • oOo

      out of which of the over 40,000 sects of insanity?

      May 3, 2013 at 12:55 pm |
    • Kelly

      Hate much, Ed Dugan?

      May 3, 2013 at 12:56 pm |
  15. Kelly

    Hmmmm. LeRoy Butler, who HAS A NEW BOOK TO PROMOTE, makes this claim about a chuch HE WON'T NAME, thus getting LeRoy Butler, who HAS A NEW BOOK TO PROMOTE, much media attention. And everyone just takes LeRoy at his word because it fits their template of the hypocritical, hateful Christians. Interesting, hey?

    May 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
    • Lagos

      You obviously know nothing about Leroy Butler, everything you claim seems to run against roughly 10 years of actual behavior.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm |
    • Tim

      Please dispense with excuses for hateful, hypocritical Christians.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm |
    • Madtown

      Not really. He could've gotten more pub by naming the church, and they thanked him for not naming them. He's been a paid public speaker for a long time. It's a business for him.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:51 pm |
    • DavidTX

      " And everyone just takes LeRoy at his word because it fits their template of the hypocritical, hateful Christians. Interesting, hey?"

      Yes, it fits exactly with the template of the hypocritical, hateful Christians, and fit's with what is coming out of their own mouths. You however must go through quite a bit of tin foil making all those hats...

      May 3, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
    • Kelly

      I've lived long enough to develop a healthy sense of cynicism about people. Especially people with possible financial motives. Is it not possible that Butler won't name the church for one simple reason – it doesn't exist?

      May 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm |
    • ed dugan

      It has nothing to do with his book. He has a lot more money in the bank than you do. It's all about an ignorant, hateful religion and the name of the church is irrelevant since they are all the same. Christians everywhere are disgustijng so why try to differentiate?

      May 3, 2013 at 12:55 pm |
    • Madtown

      The church's name will come out. In this day and age? Can't hide much of anything. LeRoy probably won't say, because he's a quality person, but it will come out.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm |
    • Kelly

      Wow, Ed. You've got it all figured out. You're very enlightened and tolerant. (except of Christians, of course)

      May 3, 2013 at 1:02 pm |
  16. Kala

    Lot's of people hate other people all over the world this is there is no exception for anyone. Roy will benefit financially for going along with the latest trend. You all need to get over it.

    May 3, 2013 at 12:37 pm |
  17. TG

    The church that Leroy Butler was to speak at, which was to give him a "fee (of) 8500$", has followed the way of the Jewish religious leaders who "were money lovers" by Luke (Luke 16:14), for the apostle John wrote that just before the passover in 30 C.E., Jesus "found in the temple those selling cattle and sheep and doves and the money brokers". (John 2:14) How then did Jesus respond to the "money brokers" selling right there in the temple, turning it from a place of worship to one of commercialism ?

    John says that "after making a whip of ropes, he drove out all those with the sheep and cattle out of the temple, and he poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. And he said to those selling doves: "Take these things away from here ! Stop making the house of my Father a house of merchandise !"(John 2:15, 16)

    Was Jesus wrong in doing this ? No, rather he established that which is righteous, that "the house of my Father" is for pure worship with no money attached to pay anyone to speak (for Jesus said that "you received free, give free" at Matt 10:8) and Jesus disciples "called to mind that it is written (concerning him):"The zeal for your house will eat me up."(John 2:17, quoting from Ps 69:9)

    May 3, 2013 at 12:36 pm |
    • CommonSensed

      And lo, let the house of god be a tax free haven and shelter from the IRS. And it was so...

      May 3, 2013 at 12:38 pm |
    • The Eddie

      Yup a "shame" the almighty gubmint doesn't own religious organizations. They could screw them up too hmm?

      May 3, 2013 at 12:52 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      Ed, What has the government messed up? Do you think that the military and emergency services would be run better in private hands?

      May 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm |
    • sly

      TG ... people like you should be shot. Go to hell, and enjoy it.

      May 3, 2013 at 1:33 pm |
    • marine1

      Why so angry and hateful at something TG posted. If you don't like it move on, simple as that. No need to tell someone that ' THEY SHOULD BE SHOT ". Or to go to " HELL ". Grow the f–K up.

      May 3, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
  18. cvg22

    I just find it sad that he was hired to speak to children about bullying by the church, yet the church leadership thought it was justified in trying to bully him into renouncing his friend. Shame on the people of this congregation...you reap what you sow. If your children end up in jail over assaulting another human being, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Think about how your children will pay for your sins and stop worrying about how others live their lives. Forcing your "morality" on others is not just sinful, it is criminal intent to do harm and deny others their GOD GIVEN rights as human beings. Insist Butler ask God for forgiveness...PASTOR, you sir need to check yourself before pointing at that man.

    May 3, 2013 at 12:35 pm |
  19. cvryder2000

    Another church, one worthy of the name CHURCH, in Madison, WI has invited Butler to speak. Congratulations to St. Dunstan's Episcopal Church.

    Now let's have the name of the other hypocritical outfit which does not deserve the name of church. They are probably friends of Westboro Baptist Church.

    May 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm |
    • lol??

      Church is not a proper noun in the KJV.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm |
    • oOo

      KJV took a devious path amongst the myriad of texts of folklore to achieve its "proper noun" status.

      May 3, 2013 at 12:40 pm |
  20. zman

    God has tried to get into that church for years without success.

    May 3, 2013 at 12:29 pm |
    • ME II

      That seems odd for an omnipotent being. but if it makes you feel better...?

      May 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm |
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