May 2nd, 2013
12:52 PM ET

Ex-NFL player's support for gay NBA player apparently costs him church appearance

By Dan Merica, CNN
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Washington (CNN) – LeRoy Butler, a former safety for the Green Bay Packers, is one of many professional athletes to tweet support for Jason Collins, the NBA player who came out as gay this week.

“Congrats to Jason Collins,” Butler tweeted April 29, the day Collins came out in a Sports Illustrated cover story.

But Butler says the four-word tweet cost him a speaking appearance at a Wisconsin church.

He was scheduled to speak at the church (whose name he has not revealed) about bullying and his new book, "The LeRoy Butler Story: From Wheelchair to the Lambeau Leap." That was until the church, according to Butler, told him he was no longer welcome because of his tweet in support of Collins.

"The pastor called me and that's when we got into the old, the whole religion thing about gay people and things of that nature and the conversation just went back and forth for us a couple of minutes," Butler told Anderson Cooper on Thursday.

After the exchange with the pastor, Butler took to twitter to express his frustration.

Butler later tweeted that “some parents went to the church and complained about my tweet” supporting Collins. The church, according to Butler, said that if the football player apologized, he would be allowed to speak.

"They basically said this, if you apologize, ask God for forgiveness and remove the tweet, you'll be able to do this speaking engagement with the kids," he said. "I won't do that. That's taking my dignity and respect away."

He continued: "I told the pastor, blame it on my mom because my mom brought me up to love everybody."

Butler recently tweeted that the church apologized for the incident and thanked him “for not releasing the church name.”

Butler played 11 years, from 1990 to 2001, with the Packers and helped them win a Super Bowl in 1997. He was a four-time All-Pro selection, the highest honor for a year of work in the NFL, and is credited with inventing the Lambeau Leap, the iconic touchdown celebration in which a Packer leaps into the Lambeau Field stands to celebrate with fans.

As for Butler's stance on gay athletes in professional sports, he said they have "support from straight guys like me that won't judge them."

"If we win a Super Bowl ring, I don't care who you bring to the ring ceremony, I just want to win the ring," Butler said. "That's what it's all about. ... Isn't that what it's all about? Winning the championship? Not who is in my bed when I turn the lights out."

Since retiring, Butler has been active in the Green Bay community, and his Facebook page chronicles appearances and speeches he has given to churches in the area.

- Dan Merica

Filed under: Belief • Same-sex marriage

soundoff (3,002 Responses)
  1. Robert

    Butler is a moron if he thinks a Christian church should have him speak when he supports sin. Lol, and charging $8500 to speak to a church group. That was really his complain, the loss of his "fee."

    May 4, 2013 at 8:19 pm |
    • midwest rail

      The church obviously had no problem with his fee when they approached him to speak. They likely would have doubled their money.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:23 pm |
    • oOo

      What kind of Christian church. There are some with large membership in the U.S. that don't apply sin as you've implied.

      Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

      (Thomas Jefferson, from Notes on the State of Virginia, 1785)

      May 4, 2013 at 8:24 pm |
    • faith

      I seen a girl on a one way corridor
      Stealing down a wrong way street
      For all the world like an urban toreador
      She had wheels on on her feet
      Well the cars do the usual dances
      Same old cruise and the kerbside crawl
      But the rollergirl she's taking chances
      They just love to see her take them all
      No fears alone at night she's sailing through the crowd
      In her ears the phones are tight and the music's playing loud
      Hallelujah here she comes queen rollerball
      Enchante what can I say don't care at all
      You know she used to have to wait around
      She used to be the lonely one
      But now that she can skate around town
      She's the only one
      No fears alone at night she's sailing through the crowd
      In her ears the phones are tight and the music's playing loud
      She gets rock n roll a rock n roll station
      And a rock n roll dream
      She's making movies on location
      She don't know what it means
      But the music make her wanna be the story
      And the story was whatever was the song what it was
      Rollergirl don't worry
      D.j. play the movies all night long
      She tortures taxi drivers just for fun
      She like to read their lips
      Says toro toro taxi see ya tomorrow my son
      I swear she let a big truck grease her hip
      She got her own world in the city
      You can't intrude on her
      She got her own world in the city
      Cos the city's benn so rude to her
      No fears alone at night she's sailing through the crowd
      In her ears the phones are tight and the music's playing loud
      She gets rock n roll a rock n roll station
      And a rock n roll dream
      She's making movies on location
      She don't know what it means
      But the music make her wanna be the story
      And the story was whatever was the song what it was
      Rollergirl don't worry
      D.j. play the movies all night long
      Come slippin and slidin
      Life's roller ball
      Slippin and a slidin
      Skateaway that's all
      Shala shalay hey hey skateaway
      She's going sining shala shalay hey hey

      May 5, 2013 at 1:26 am |
    • tallulah13

      Anyone have a clue as to why figgles is posting Dire Straits lyrics?

      May 5, 2013 at 3:37 am |
  2. Bostontola

    Why are some posters vilifying science?

    Faith didn't create the airplane, antibiotics, mass produced fertilizer to feed the world's people by taking nitrogen from the air, the light bulb, the printing press, anesthetics, too many other medicines to name, electronic/photonic computers and communication connecting the world, electricity to power the world, the refrigerator to preserve food, pasteurization to preserve food, medical devices like X-Rays, NMR, ultrsound, stethoscope, optical and other sensors like telescopes, microscopes to open our awareness of the universe at many more scales, artificial materials like plastics,...

    Scientists and engineers did.

    What has religion done?

    May 4, 2013 at 8:00 pm |
    • Chad


      there are as many different religions as people.

      which religion are you talking about?

      Christianity can do something that the study of Gods creation will never get you, permanently save your life.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:03 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Any of them.

      Your religion promises something in the next world but nothing in this one. Science has vastly improved the standard of living for human beings in the one world we all agree exists.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:07 pm |
    • Chad

      The study of Gods creation (science) can only provide from what God has already provided.

      Science only exists as a discipline because God created the universe such that it obeys laws.

      What is 80-90 years compared to forever?

      May 4, 2013 at 8:10 pm |
    • Bostontola

      I don't know about god, but religions haven't produced advancement of mankind. You said it yourself, religion makes promises of a next world if you give up this one to it. Science improves life in this world. You are free to take religions deal, I don't have a problem with your choices.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:20 pm |
    • Athy

      Actually, religion (any of them) has done nothing other than give deluded believers a warm fuzzy feeling. The negative aspects of religion probably outweigh the positives. It's superstitious nonsense that's rapidly becoming unneeded.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:22 pm |
    • Chad

      @Bostontola "I don't know about god, but religions haven't produced advancement of mankind."
      @Chad "indeed.
      you are looking at mans invention, and because of that refusing to investigate the reality of the God of Israel for yourself.

      if ever there was a single sentence that captured the atheist view, it's yours right there.

      @Bostontola "You said it yourself, religion makes promises of a next world if you give up this one to it."
      @Chad "no.. that's incorrect.
      Christianity makes a promise for THIS life, as well as the next.

      it's really tragic that atheism is built on misunderstanding/failing to understand/refusing to investigate.

      @Bostontola " Science improves life in this world. "
      @Chad "0nly because God created a universe that obeyed laws is the study of that even possible.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:28 pm |
    • Chad

      @Athy "Actually, religion (any of them) has done nothing other than give deluded believers a warm fuzzy feeling. The negative aspects of religion probably outweigh the positives.
      @Chad "Christianity has provided more good in this world than any other religion, including atheism.

      @Athy " It's supersti tious nonsense that's rapidly becoming unneeded."
      @Chad "You are guessing 🙂

      only way for you to make that statement is if you can demonstrate that the God of Israel doesnt exist.
      And, you cant make that claim..

      May 4, 2013 at 8:35 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Thanks Chad.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:36 pm |
    • Athy

      Actually, I can make that claim in the absence of any viable evidence to the contrary. Do you really think we atheists are obligated to disprove every preposterous claim made by you religies? It's up to you to prove god's existence. And you can't because he simply does not exist!

      May 4, 2013 at 9:02 pm |
    • Chad

      A. There is viable evidence for the existence of the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ.
      B. Not being able to prove something exists doesnt mean it doesnt (see absence of evidence is not evidence of absence)
      C. You arent obligated to do anything, but it seems foolish to reject the God of Israel without investigating it.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:19 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Seems foolish to whom? You, Chard? That's hardly a convincing argument.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:37 pm |
    • Observer


      "There is viable evidence for the existence of the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ"

      There is NO PROOF. Wishful thinking and references to places that may or may not have existed don't prove anything.

      Rather than use the Bible to put people down, why not use the Golden Rule to build people up?

      May 4, 2013 at 9:42 pm |
    • Chad


      What would you consider proof?

      May 4, 2013 at 9:49 pm |
    • Ken

      Let me guess, your "proof" will be one of your long-winded, copy-and-paste list of assumptions that has been refuted here at least a half a dozen times. Don't you ever get tired of being proven wrong?

      May 4, 2013 at 9:50 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Chard yaps yet again: "What would you consider proof?"

      Asked and answered, sh!t for brains. You don't have the proof that's been requested, and all you've been able to do is make excuses for the lack of it. Get a clue, Sherlock.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
    • Observer


      What would I consider proof? Just ONE fact that shows that God exists. Nothing so far.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:54 pm |
    • Chad

      "proven wrong"?

      how do you figure?

      lets take just one aspect, free will.

      Do you believe you have it? Well, if you do, how can you possibly back up that belief? It's utterly impossible to provide a basis for free will if you believe that all there is is the material universe.

      so.. how in the world can you explain it?

      May 4, 2013 at 9:54 pm |
    • Chad


      you should consider reading There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind, - Antony Flew

      May 4, 2013 at 9:57 pm |
    • The real Tom

      "lets take just one aspect, free will."

      No, let's not. You don't have proof. You don't have evidence. Your arguments fail. If they were valid, you'd have convinced at least one person that you were right, Chard. You haven't even managed to convince one person that you're anything but a self-righteous, sanctimonious azz wipe.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:57 pm |
    • The real Tom

      "It's utterly impossible to provide a basis for free will if you believe that all there is is the material universe."

      No, Chard. You simply choose not to accept the fact that your views aren't the ultimate truth, even though you've been shown to be wrong repeatedly.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:00 pm |
    • Observer


      C'mon. Get real. I asked for ONE fact and you can't just supply one but have to reference a book?


      May 4, 2013 at 10:00 pm |
    • The real Tom

      "if you do, how can you possibly back up that belief?"

      Same way you back up your beliefs, you idiot.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:01 pm |
    • lol??

      what took ya so long, c'mon man, 1/2 mil years?? You've actually only destroyed the planet.

      "Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

      May 4, 2013 at 10:02 pm |
    • Ken

      How do you know that the speculation that Antony Flew had gone senile, and that Varghese was the actual principle author of that book is false?

      May 4, 2013 at 10:06 pm |
    • Chad

      @Ken "How do you know that the speculation that Antony Flew had gone senile, and that Varghese was the actual principle author of that book is false?"

      @Chad "personally refuted by the author
      – in print
      – in interview: http://www.biola.edu/antonyflew/
      – in video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1e4FUhfHiU

      May 4, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
    • Ken

      "personally refuted by the author"
      If the poor man had been senile and being manipulated by this co-author would you honestly expect him to coherently understand his condition? The tragedy of dementia is that those who suffer it so very often don't realize that they're living in a deluded state.

      Irregardless, Flew stated numerous times up to his death that he was no Christian, so I'm not sure what actual value you find in this.

      May 5, 2013 at 12:25 am |
    • Science

      Hey Chad...................is the devil making you do the dance ?.................. lmao

      May 5, 2013 at 5:53 am |
  3. Colin

    A church? Who gives a sh.it what a church thinks about gays. You might as well ask a corgi what it thinks about nuclear physics.

    May 4, 2013 at 7:28 pm |
    • Alpa Chino

      I gotta say, man, I think a corgi would be more receptive to the idea, and less judgmental.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:35 pm |

      Yes, please give us some credit.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:45 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      Dogged comedic variety acts are found timidly amusing but sadly only sympathetic awkward personality types wouldn't rightly know nor even comprehend.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:22 pm |
  4. Robert

    A church refused an athlete who supported his gay comrade? Shocking?!

    May 4, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Sadly, its not shocking at all, it's disgraceful.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
    • Observer

      More hypocritical than shocking. Nothing new.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:34 pm |
    • lol??

      Jodie Foster
      Tell some dude to drop dead and get em to shoot the prez to prove his luv.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:19 pm |
    • midwest rail

      "......and get em to shoot the prez to prove his luv. "
      Except that's not how it happened – not that accuracy has ever mattered to you.

      May 4, 2013 at 10:22 pm |
    • lol??

      Well rail, don't stop there and tease. Do tell.

      May 4, 2013 at 11:52 pm |
  5. Austin

    Because of the resurrection, we all have reason to strengthen ourselves in Christ. other than that , we are all born into struggling emotionally, physically, mentally , chemically... ect.. And take anger and discouragement for example. We are given ever reason, and power through the resurrection, to never be discouraged. Satan is the one who plants that seed. This emotion leads to anger.

    Being angry is in many cases a sin, because we are complaining. And if God allows us to starve to death, then we can rejoice in our suffering because we are eternally saved and alive.

    This earth and world, is a test. This is only a test. Your receiver needs to be tuned in to test. Turn your channel toward God and let Him show you who He is. Because struggles and pain and death, are ways we can grow in faith and honor and glorify God.

    You ARE CAPABLE, OF PLEASING, HONORING, AND GLORIFYING, THE GOD OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. And He does test us on a daily basis. You are God's . Everything is God's. Life is a pradox that God created as a doorway to glory.

    This is only a test.

    May 4, 2013 at 7:00 pm |
    • The real Tom

      What's a "pradox"?

      May 4, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • lionlylamb

      The missing "a" if I know seems to be somewhat paradoxically dumbfounded.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:10 pm |
    • Alpa Chino

      Wait – aren't you that guy with the crazy dreams and something about a dead cat? In any case, dude, I don't see where this is a good opportunity to proselytize.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:39 pm |
    • JWT

      Entire Universe Austin – then it's obvious that you live in a different universe than I do. Of course with your past comments that is not surprising.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
    • Ken

      We are "God's" in the same way people use to be slaves, you mean? Why would anyone want to see themselves that way?

      May 4, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
  6. Face palm

    It's just my opinion, but I think if there is any deeper meaning we are going to find it's probably not going to be found while focusing on who is doing what to whose anatomy, whose politics suck, or whose world leaders were the worst.
    I motion that religious discussions be centered more around each individuals personal spiritual experiences.
    Maybe too much to ask for this blog.

    May 4, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
    • Face palm


      May 4, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
    • Dippy

      Your comment is correct as it stands. "Whose" is the right word.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      2 Timothy 4:2-4

      2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

      3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

      4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


      May 4, 2013 at 8:32 pm |
  7. Austin

    Sodomy pertains to straight perverts too. I dont care if you take it a step further and go h.omo. The point is this, the word perverted is applied to the bending of the intended function of a word. Perverts of God's word and ways Perverts of the intended function. Mentally, vocally perverted. Perverted in deed and purpose. All together perverted in respect to reality.

    Ho.mo attraction is the effect of the root cause. Deviant mind. Improper childhood upbringing. effected by broken home, fatherless, spiritually fatherless. No sense of submission to what is right. All out selfishness. Stealing an x box. stealing a cellular phone, molestation, affairs, divorce, perverted s.ex. Anger, lies, neglect, denial. Rejection of a moral standard. Rejection of God.

    May 4, 2013 at 6:12 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Not that I for a moment think that you're really Austin, but whoever you are, you're an ass. You have absolutely no facts to support your idiotic pronouncements. You're just a blowhard with a hard-on about gays.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:16 pm |
    • .

      Oh, shut up, you pretend Muslim asshole. You're no more Muslim than the fucking Queen of England, you old reprobate degenerate troll.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
    • STFU

      Austin, let's assume you're straight and not virgin, can you say honestly, you never admired your wife's ass, and thought of doing doggy style? can you say with confidence you never contemplated to change the hole?

      May 4, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • Jesus freaker

      Austin has been kidnapped.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:39 pm |
    • STFU

      no Austin is being disciplined by his wife for teaching her ass, no computer access till Monday

      May 4, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      yay perverts!

      May 4, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Fake Austin might have a wife, but the real Austin? He can't even get a date that doesn't require a pump.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • Austin

      I can absolutely positively say that a woman's fine curves, and ass, do not tempt me to penetrate her butt . That is repulsive.

      Oral s.ex is another issue that one could question. Is this what God intended man to do? well look at how a dog acts.

      We are not dog's. "doggie style" does not bother me, and I enjoy the feature of a woman's booty, but it has nothing to do with her anus. Her booty is part of her overall appeal as a woman. S.ex does not need any perversions to satisfy the function and intention. Its just like thinking about having a drink, compared to being an alcoholic.

      We should honor and glorify God, as living sacrifices. Se.x is not about oral s.ex, or any perverted s.ex. Ora.l s.x is recreational "getting off" . I would assume that God sees or.al se.x as He does ma.sturbation. Its a selfish act.

      It is not comparable to the God honoring act of marriage, matrimony, and reproduction.

      You can thank God for His creation and honor Him with the way you make love to your spouse. or you can do it for yourself to please yourself.

      Have you ever heard of a soul tie?

      May 4, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • The real Tom

      What Austin is actually saying is that he never gets any.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
    • Austin

      People need to have s.ex, like they need to eat or use the restroom. S.ex drive is a basic function like hunger. But we give thanks for food and good health. Do we pervert our eating? Why do we pervert s.ex? Why do we take drinking too far? Yes we do pervert eating. and people die in this sense from improper eating. People die from improper .s.ex.

      Everthing we do , we can and should do it the way God intended us to, and with Him in mind we glorify Him. a soul tie is the cleaving of two souls through se.x that was a special creative part of se.x that is intended for marriage. In many ways, the simple birds who are mates for life, are more pleasing to God than man kind has become. Man is cursed greater than any other creature. But the whole earth was cursed and everything in it.

      What we need to remember about the addictive part of se.x is that dopimine is secreted during s.ex, and this is the cause of the perversion of se.x. The immediate need to sensually crave and indulge is a disease like alcoholism. It is a chemical dependency and a sensual trap. This is the sin involved in having s.ex that is too sensual. Se.xual release of tension is healty and the reason is because God wanted us to populate and continue to thrive. We need to think about this when we approach s.ex so that we do it as Gods children, not for our own selfish need. Everything is God's.

      Easier said than done. this is the right answer to s.ex though. Dont use your wife. Enjoy what God has made, provided, given.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
    • Alpa Chino

      Something went plenty wrong in your childhood, man. Adulthood too.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:41 pm |

    I had to make some pork chops delivery, eew it was a big order, I could not refused, but I am back to talk hindu ism, hindus don't you dare touch that Report Abuse remote control

    May 4, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
  9. Bootyfunk

    you can be h.omophobes - not against the law.

    but we can call you out on it and let others know of your bigotry.

    that prejudice is written into your holy book is a weak excuse for ignorance.

    May 4, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • Austin

      I think poop is gross . thats all.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
  10. Austin

    Hey I have a serious question.

    Why do we have an anus? Whats that for?

    May 4, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • Austin

      Make sure your answer is sensitive and cool, and not absolutely stupid.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • The real Tom

      For you, it's apparently the orifice from which you speak.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:47 pm |
    • Austin

      I have to go take a crap. I cant tell you how much in enjoy that. I am so excited. What a fascinating orifice.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:48 pm |
    • Austin

      why do we deserve scorn and ridicule ?

      May 4, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
    • Austin

      Hey , the real tom, will you post a few pictures of yourself, I want to see who is calling me names.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Why? Because you're idiots who think you know what other people should do and believe.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
  11. Cyrus

    cry,cry,cry, whine, whine. Can't these hom-Os just go die from the disease(Anally Inflicted Death Sentence) they created already? You people make us sick .

    May 4, 2013 at 5:23 pm |
    • STFU

      I bet you use lockable underwears.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:33 pm |
    • .

      Oh, fuck off, you freaking pussy. It's the bigot church that's boo-hooing, asshole breath.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Cyrus, do you think your god is happy with you?

      May 4, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
  12. idhy

    Does anyone have the list of banned words handy??

    May 4, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
    • Helpful Hints

      Bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to get past the CNN Belief Blog/WordPress automatic filter:
      Many, if not most, are buried within other words, so use your imagination.
      You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters or some html tricks to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
      ar-se.....as in ar-senic.
      co-ck.....as in co-ckatiel, co-ckatrice, co-ckleshell, co-ckles, etc.
      co-on.....as in racc-oon, coc-oon, etc.
      cu-m......as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, circu-mnavigate, circu-mstances, cu-mbersome, cuc-umber, etc.
      ef-fing...as in ef-fing filter
      ft-w......as in soft-ware, delft-ware, swift-water, drift-wood, etc.
      ho-mo.....as in ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, ho-mogenous, sopho-more, etc.
      ho-oters…as in sho-oters
      ho-rny....as in tho-rny, etc.
      inf-orms us…
      hu-mp… as in th-ump, th-umper, th-umping
      jacka-ss...yet "ass" is allowed by itself.....
      ja-p......as in j-apanese, ja-pan, j-ape, etc.
      koo-ch....as in koo-chie koo..!
      o-rgy….as in po-rgy, zo-rgy, etc.
      pi-s......as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, therapi-st, etc.
      p-oon… as in sp-oon, lamp-oon, harp-oon
      p-orn… as in p-ornography
      pr-ick....as in pri-ckling, pri-ckles, etc.
      ra-pe.....as in scra-pe, tra-peze, gr-ape, thera-peutic, sara-pe, etc.
      se-x......as in Ess-ex, s-exual, etc.
      sm-ut…..as in transm-utation
      sp-ic.....as in desp-icable, hosp-ice, consp-icuous, susp-icious, sp-icule, sp-ice, etc.
      sp-ook… as in sp-ooky, sp-ooked
      ti-t......as in const-itution, att-itude, t-itle, ent-ity, alt-itude, beat-itude, etc.
      tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, nightw-atchman, salt-water, etc.
      va-g......as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant, va-gue, sava-ge, etc.
      who-re....as in who're you kidding / don't forget to put in that apostrophe!
      There's another phrase that someone found, "wo-nderful us" (have no idea what sets that one off).

      May 4, 2013 at 4:19 pm |
    • STFU

      ya, ISLAM

      May 4, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • idhy

      Thank you!

      May 4, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
  13. STFU

    surprising, the page number keeps jumping between 25 and 26, CNN is adding new posts at the same speed, deleting posts too

    May 4, 2013 at 3:03 pm |
    • Science

      Scientists Find Genes Linked to Human Neurological Disorders in Sea Lamprey Genome



      Facts work .

      May 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
    • Science

      Hey James Madison................religion has none it looks like.............with the comments on this blog.

      The Big question is ETHICS ! does religion have any ?

      The Ethics of Resurrecting Extinct Species

      Apr. 8, 2013 — At some point, scientists may be able to bring back extinct animals, and perhaps early humans, raising questions of ethics and environmental disruption.


      May 4, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      science, step away from your source of reference making up more lies to glue their original whopper.

      May 4, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • The real Tom

      The liar here is you, HS. Not science.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • Frank Jeffries

      Science seems to be a filthy word to HeavenSent. How does the ignorant sheep think computer technology came about? I suppose there's a verse for that, right??

      May 4, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
    • The real Tom

      HS is an ignoramus. She just told someone that his argument was "mute."

      What a muttonhead.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • Austin

      The real Tom,

      its not nice to name call.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:42 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Like I care to be nice to an azzhole like HS or a delusional idiot like you. You both get exactly what you deserve here: scorn and ridicule.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom, I thought taking both feet from you mouth would keep you busy for a few days. Isee you're into your stalking and bullying routine when posts are opposite of your evil viewpoints.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Frank Jeffries, my 2nd degree is MIS.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:51 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom, angry that I told another dummy handle of yours that your argument was mute. Mmmmh, since I just arrived to post, the mute comment was directed at Reality's post regarding his post about the Book of Revelation.

      May 4, 2013 at 5:55 pm |
    • Science

      Russ is like chad !!!

      May 4, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • The real Tom

      My word but you're stupid, HS. Unbelievably dumb.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:12 pm |
    • .

      "its not nice to name call."......if you're an atheist, RIGHT, AUSTIN? It's perfectly all right when you and your fellow "good" Christians cann everybody all the names they want, RIGHT, AUSTIN? Freaking little hypocrite. Right up there with that paranoid fraud broad, HS.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:20 pm |
    • Austin

      there are words that are properly used as descriptions that are adjectives. These are useful. The phrases used as names like "freaking little ...." or " muttonhead" these are more of a abusive way of striking.

      if you say "this is perverted" or this is arrogant, this is hypocritical, that is fine. You don't have to name call.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
    • The real Tom

      No, of course I don't "have to," you dim bulb. I do so because your behavior warrants it.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:33 pm |
    • Austin

      what behavior? I have tole you about my experience with supernatural revealing of spiritual power, and you are the one behaving oddly. I have a testimony. You behave and react.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Fake Austin, go find someone else to troll. You're not even close to being believable.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
    • Sam

      " I have tole you about my experience with supernatural revealing of spiritual power"

      " I have a testimony. You behave and react."

      Is there any chance that any professional psychologist or therapist would ever consider you sane? I doubt it. So listening to anything Austin has to say should be considered research into the insane.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:08 pm |
    • Austin

      your entire secular approach to religion, and the effects of Satan is absolutely smothered by your unbelieving spiritually blind approach. You want to diagnose suicide bombers, school massacres and adolf Hitler with a God denying approach?

      You are only pushing evil forward as a whole with your spiritually dead psychiatrist delusion. That is what is real.

      May 4, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The real Tom, posted "My word but you're stupid, HS. Unbelievably dumb."

      Answer: Not surprised that insults coming from the guttermouth who believes the whopper lie that she derived from apes and didn't even get fries with that tall order of babble. LOL

      May 4, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
    • The real Tom

      So...now Austin IS HeavenSent.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:47 pm |
  14. Bostontola

    Can we all agree that this church was wrong to cancel this contract on moral grounds when Mr. Butler is not gay and only showed compassion for another person?

    May 4, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • Akira

      What's a socie?

      May 4, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • sam


      May 4, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • STFU

      does anyone know what kind of church was it? I mean Catholics or Branch Davidians?

      May 4, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
  15. Bostontola

    The random disappearance of comments is not right. Is it intentional or a technical issue?

    May 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • midwest rail

      It's intentional – it started when offended fundies realized the abuse button worked again.

      May 4, 2013 at 2:28 pm |
    • midwest rail

      So your answer is no, no proof – just more innuendo from the king of dishonesty. Typical.

      May 4, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • Bostontola

      Thanks Midwest, that makes sense, but I wish the arbiter used better judgment on abuse.

      May 4, 2013 at 2:31 pm |
    • midwest rail

      The problem is that there is no arbiter – enuff clicks, and a post goes poof.

      May 4, 2013 at 2:33 pm |
    • midwest rail

      I.F., perhaps if any of your posts made any damn sense, they wouldn't disappear.

      May 4, 2013 at 2:34 pm |
  16. Angel Moronic

    Just saw a bumper sticker today: Fundamentalist Christians are not only perfect, they are also unforgiven.

    May 4, 2013 at 1:35 pm |
    • Austin

      fundamentalist means they think they are sure that Jesus was God and resurrected and therefore the Bible is not surprisingly inspired by an all powerful capable God, who is a person.

      so what. God has given us some what of a moral guideline. Christians as sinners are not supposed to just shut up and blend in. Is it really so bad that God knows what is best for you?

      May 4, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      What a surprise that nonbelievers HATE Jesus' righteous teachings.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
    • The real Tom

      Nobody hates the message. They just all hate you.

      May 4, 2013 at 9:44 pm |
    • Austin

      Tom,. you are such a sweet heart sticking up for humanity. That is exactly what Jesus took care of. You dont need to worry about anything. Its all taken care of. Now we just need to shun evil. And harvest the spiritual crop of eternal fruit.

      Bear fruit.

      2 Corinthians 4:6
      New International Version (NIV)
      6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,”[a] made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ.

      May 4, 2013 at 11:20 pm |
  17. Akira

    Is CNN doing some post-pruning again?

    May 4, 2013 at 1:28 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I think so. I replied here a while ago, and now it's gone. Creepy.

      May 4, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
  18. Satan's can opener

    Funny how with all the xtians going on about gay being against the laws of god nobody EVER mentions all that stuff about David and Jonathan in the book of Samuel. I'd really love to see how they would twist it to mean they were "just good friends". It's crystal clear that they were lovers, at least until the xtian spin doctors bend fold spindle and mutilate the meaning of the texts.

    May 4, 2013 at 1:16 pm |
    • tallulah13

      I don't think it ever occurred to the guys who put together the bible that humanity would ever reach the point that it would question church leadership. I think there are a lot of things they would have edited out, had they really considered it.

      May 4, 2013 at 1:21 pm |
    • .

      Oh, yeah, those two definitely were gay. But you'll never see any Christian saying shit about that. And yeah, it's all selective spin when it comes to that, aint it?

      May 4, 2013 at 1:24 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Can opener, Jesus' scriptures provide topics, contents, righteous versus unrighteous outcomes throughout the Bible. What part of His teachings do you not comprehend?

      May 4, 2013 at 5:45 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      "But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, . . . "

      (2 Peter 2:1)

      May 4, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
  19. dakotahgeo

    I will say that Heaven Sent and his/her ilk are far from the type of Christian that I would want to be. They do make wonderful christians, but that isn't who Christ asks us to be. Using the Holy Bible as a WMD (weapon of mass destruction) is in the Christian toolbox, sorry, HS! Now... instead of just quoting Bible verses for us... live them!
    Dakotahgeo, M.Div. Pastor/Chaplain

    May 4, 2013 at 12:55 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

      Matthew 5:13


      May 4, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • The real Tom

      She swings and she misses yet again. HS is clueless.

      May 4, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tom, salt means to be seasoned with His truth just as you are salty with your insults.

      May 4, 2013 at 8:01 pm |
  20. Akira

    Makes me laugh that people attempt to define journalism by sexuality, and to try and defame Anderson Cooper because of their own tedious biases.
    I wonder how many "good" journalists are closet gays. I wonder why that even matters.

    May 4, 2013 at 12:11 pm |
    • Akira

      I'm wondering why you're wondering about the meaning of the word tedious? Perhaps a dictionary is in order?

      May 4, 2013 at 1:10 pm |
    • tallulah13

      The quality of the local trolls has really fallen off as their numbers have increased. They used to be mildly entertaining. Now they're just incoherent.

      May 4, 2013 at 1:19 pm |
    • Akira

      I'm wondering if you know the definition of a dictionary, lol??

      May 4, 2013 at 2:02 pm |
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