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 Evangelical Christians say they are the new victims of intolerance - they're persecuted for condemning homosexuality.
May 5th, 2013
06:00 AM ET
When Christians become a 'hated minority'By John Blake, CNN (CNN) - When Peter Sprigg speaks publicly about his opposition to homosexuality, something odd often happens. During his speeches, people raise their hands to challenge his assertions that the Bible condemns homosexuality, but no Christians speak out to defend him. “But after it is over, they will come over to talk to me and whisper in my ear, ‘I agree with everything you said,’" says Sprigg, a spokesman for The Family Research Council, a powerful, conservative Christian lobbying group. We’ve heard of the “down-low” gay person who keeps his or her sexual identity secret for fear of public scorn. But Sprigg and other evangelicals say changing attitudes toward homosexuality have created a new victim: closeted Christians who believe the Bible condemns homosexuality but will not say so publicly for fear of being labeled a hateful bigot. As proof, Sprigg points to the backlash that ESPN commentator Chris Broussard sparked recently. Broussard was called a bigot and a purveyor of hate speech when he said an NBA player who had come out as gay was living in “open rebellion to God.” Broussard said the player, Jason Collins, was “living in unrepentant sin” because the Bible condemns homosexuality. “In the current culture, it takes more courage for someone like Chris Broussard to speak out than for someone like Jason Collins to come out,” says Sprigg, a former pastor. “The media will hail someone who comes out of the closet as gay, but someone who simply expresses their personal religious views about homosexual conduct is attacked.” When is disagreement hate? Bryan Litfin, a theology professor at Moody Bible Institute in Illinois, says Christians should be able to publicly say that God designed sex to take place within a marriage between a man and a woman. “That isn’t so outrageous,” Litfin says. “Nobody is expressing hate toward homosexuals by saying that. Since when is disagreement the same as hate?” But quoting the Bible doesn't inoculate anyone from becoming a bigot or hater, some scholars say. There's a point at which a Christian's opposition to homosexuality can become bigotry, and even hate speech, they say. Crossing such a line has happened many times in history. A literal reading of the Bible was used to justify all sorts of hatred: slavery, the subjugation of women and anti-Semitism, scholars and pastors say. “Truly damaging speech cannot be excused just because it expresses genuine religious belief,” says Mark D. Jordan, author of “Recruiting Young Love: How Christians Talk about Homosexuality.” “Some religious beliefs, sincerely held, are detestable. They cannot be spoken without disrupting social peace,” says Jordan, a professor at the John Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis. The point where religious speech becomes hate speech is difficult to define, though, scholars and activists say. The Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama is a nonprofit civil rights group that combats and monitors hate groups. Three years ago, it designated the Family Research Council, the group that Sprigg represents, as a hate group - a characterization the group stridently rejects. Mark Potok, a center spokesman, says there’s no shared definition of what constitutes hate speech. “There is no legal meaning. It’s just a phrase,” Potok says. “Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.” 'One of the most hated minorities?' Intolerance may be difficult to define, but some evangelicals say they have become victims of intolerance because of their reverence for the Bible. The conservative media culture is filled with stories about evangelicals being labeled as “extremists” for their belief that homosexuality is a sin. Their sense of persecution goes beyond their stance on homosexuality. There are stories circulating of evangelical students being suspended for opposing homosexuality, a teacher fired for giving a Bible to a curious student, and the rise of anti-Christian bigotry. A blogger at The American Dream asked in one essay: “Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?” The reluctance of evangelicals to speak out against homosexuality is often cited as proof they are being forced into the closet. Joe Carter, editor for The Gospel Coalition, an online evangelical magazine, wrote a blog post entitled “Debatable: Is the Christian Church a ‘Hate Group’?" He warned that young people will abandon “orthodox” Christian churches that teach that homosexuality is a sin for fear of being called haters. “Faux civility, embarrassment, prudishness and a fear of expressing an unpopular opinion has caused many Christians to refrain from explaining how homosexual conduct destroys lives,” Carter wrote. Some Christians fear that opposing homosexuality could cause them to lose their jobs and “haunt them forever,” Carter says. “It’s easier to just go along,” says Carter, who is also author of “How to Argue Like Jesus.” “You don’t want to be lumped in with the bigots. That’s a powerful word." Edward Johnson, a communication professor at Campbell University in North Carolina, says we are now living in a "postmodern" era where everything is relative and there is no universally accepted truth. It's an environment in which anyone who says "this is right" and "that is wrong" is labeled intolerant, he says. There was a time when a person could publicly say homosexuality was wrong and people could consider the statement without anger, he says. Today, people have reverted to an intellectual tribalism where they are only willing to consider the perspective of their own tribe. “They are incapable of comprehending that someone may have a view different than theirs,” Johnson says. “For them anyone who dares to question the dogma of the tribe can only be doing so out of hatred.” Sprigg, from the Family Research Council, says his condemnation of homosexual conduct does not spring from intolerance but a desire to protect gays from harmful conduct, he says. Sprigg, a senior fellow for policy studies at the council, wrote in a council pamphlet that homosexual men are more likely to engage in child sexual abuse than are straight men. He also wrote that gay men are also afflicted with a higher rate of sexually transmitted diseases and mental illness as well. Sprigg says he does not believe homosexuality is a choice and that “personal testimonies" and "clinical experience” show that some people “can and do change from gay to straight.” “Maybe we need to do a better job of showing that we are motivated by Christian love,” Sprigg says. “Love is wanting the best for someone, and acting to bring that about.” 'That's a lie' Potok, from the Southern Poverty Law Center, has little use for the love Sprigg talks about. He calls it hatred, and his voice rose in anger when he talked about the claims by Sprigg and other Christian groups that gay men are more predisposed to molest children and that homosexual behavior is inherently harmful. He says the Southern Poverty Law Center didn’t designate the Family Research Group a hate group because they view homosexuality as a sin or oppose same-sex marriage, Potok says. There are plenty of Christian groups who hold those beliefs but are not hate groups, he says. A group becomes a hate group when it attacks and maligns an entire class of people for their “immutable characteristics,” Potok says. The Family Research Council spreads known falsehoods about gays and lesbians, he says, such as the contention that gay men are predisposed to abuse children. “That’s a lie,” Potok says. “These guys are engaging in straight-up defamation of a very large group of people. There are not many things much worse than you can say in America about somebody than they are a child molester.” Potok scoffed at Spriggs’ claim that the council and other evangelical anti-gay groups are victims of intolerance. “That’s whining on the part of people who spend their days and nights attacking gay people and then some people criticize them and they don’t like it,” he says. “That’s pathetic. It reminds me of slave owners complaining that people are saying ugly things about them.” What the Bible says What about the popular evangelical claim, “We don’t hate the sinner, just the sin” – is that seen as intolerance or hate speech when it comes to homosexuality? There are those who say you can’t hate the sin and love the sinner because being gay or lesbian is defined by one’s sexual behavior; it’s who someone is. “Most people who identify as gay and lesbian would say that this is not an action I’m choosing to do; this is who I am,” says Timothy Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible: The Unexpected History of an Accidental Book.” Beal, a religion professor at Case Western University in Ohio, says it should be difficult for any Christian to unequivocally declare that the Bible opposes homosexuality because the Bible doesn’t take a single position on the topic. It's an assertion that many scholars and mainline Protestant pastors would agree with. Some people cite Old Testament scriptures as condemning homosexuality, such as Leviticus 18:22 - “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” But other Christians counter by saying they are not bound by the Old Testament. There are those who also cite New Testament scriptures like Romans 1:26-27 - “… Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men. …” Beal, however, says Jesus said little about sex. And the Apostle Paul, who wrote Romans, was probably referring to male prostitution and men having sexual relations with boys, a practice in the Greco-Roman world. “Paul does not understand genetics and sexual orientation the way we understand it now as something much more than a choice,” says Beal. Some evangelicals say Christians can’t change their view of biblical truth just because times change. But some scholars reply: Sure you can. Christians do it all the time. Denying a woman’s ability to preach in church was justified by scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:11-12 - “… I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” But many churches have abandoned that teaching - and some scholars say a woman preached the first Christian sermon, when Mary Magdalene proclaimed that Jesus had risen. Slaveholders in 19th century America justified slavery through a literal reading of the Bible, quoting Titus 2:9-10 – “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything. …” And anti-Semitism was justified by the claims that Jews killed Jesus, such as Matthew 27: 25-26 - “Let his blood be on us and on our children.” Litfin, from Moody Bible Institute, acknowledged that the Bible once sanctioned slavery, but he said that practice was a “cultural expression” that changed over time. Evangelicals who oppose same-sex marriage by citing the Bible are on more solid ground, he says. “Marriage is a universal and timeless institution that God set up for maximum human flourishing. He set it up in the first book of the Bible with the story of Adam and Eve. It is consistent throughout the whole Bible. … Marriage is in a different category than those cultural things.” Public jousts over the Bible's stance on homosexuality rarely change people’s minds. What changes is when people get to know gay and lesbian people as friends and hear their story, says Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible.” “If you open up to that other person genuinely, you basically come to a point where you have to sacrifice them to your ideology or crack open your ideology to make a hospitable place for them,” Beal says. One Christian pastor who is gay says the uproar over the ESPN commentator’s comments can actually be good, because debates help settle moral disputes. “What appears to us as antiquated and prejudicial now was once a disputed issue that required debate,” says the Rev. Richard McCarty, a minister in the United Church of Christ and a religious studies professor at Mercyhurst University in Pennsylvania. Until the debate over homosexuality is settled - if it ever is - there may be plenty of evangelical Christians who feel as if they are now being forced to stay in the closet. Carter, the evangelical blogger, says he foresees a day when any church that preaches against homosexuality will be marginalized. Just as many churches now accept divorce, they will accept sexual practices once considered sinful. “It’s getting to the point,” he says, “where churches are not going to say that any sexual activity is wrong.” soundoff (10,982 Responses)« Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 Next »
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WOW...is this guy complaining that people are being intolerant of his intolerance?
Talk about irony!!
Heck, yes. I am intolerant of your intolerance. Everybody should be.
You do not have a "right" to say bad stuff about people based on your beliefs. They have a right to their bodies and their lives. Demanding that you be able to apply your bible judgments freely to anybody else's life is not OK. Just as it is not OK to apply your Quran judgments.
What do they say? Religion is a like a P E N I S. It is great to have one, great to be proud of it. But please don't brandish it around in public and display it to others who don't want to have anything to do with it.
They are free to say what they want. However, we are free to judge them as they judge others. If they cannot deal with it then yes they can just be quiet. tough.
why do two nuns walk together? one nun makes sure the other nun don't get none.
I hear the Klan and Neo Nazis have it pretty rough, too. Good. I'm totally okay with bigots suffering.
I hate hateful people!
"Hated minority" is absolute crap. Hateful majority is much more accurate. If they're feeling hated that might want to ponder Galations 6:7: "For whatever one sows, that will he also reap."
I LOVE how these aggressive anti-gay types not only use religion as a shield for their intolerance, fear of change, etc. But they have the audacity to claim they are victims and a "hated minority" for their "views". Tragic.
Far too assuming.....It's people like you.....that make it easy to stand on the other side of the issue.
Cora formally recuses herself from commenting about what other people say. Clearly, many people hate the Christians that is their prerogative and someone needs to be blamed. What disturbs me is that after it all, these hateful people want us all to patiently wait while they continue to heap hate upon so they can get their ya ya out. POISON! Have these people lost their entire family to a car fire, no. Have these people suffered torture or continuous vile hate? NO> has any one here at all had a loved one blown up by a hateful and fearful Christian NO> I am done commenting on people's answers. They are shallow, uninformed little talking heads that merely repeat what they have learned. Number one-do not turn to God when you die, you don't have the right to, you snotty little hate mongers. And number two, give your own personal experiences including those in the future zero points. They don't count.
Hey Cora
To bad so sad for you as there is no fairy in the sky have a great life .
Glad you are done commenting.
Peace
Death = depleted carbon the en !
Oops,
THE END !
REMEBER the sign in picture above is BULLSH-IT !
Cora siad this about cwistians "They are shallow, uninformed little talking heads that merely repeat what they have learned." LOL
Hey Cora how are the cats ?
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Wow. English much?
"Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”
Can't happen too soon, that's for sure. They are no different than the ayatollah's and their followers.
oh man, you said it! Christians are known for their subjugation of women, violent jihadist terrorism and their despotic imposition of Sharia law...
oh.. wait..
what?
Oops, comments .
Clue chad whole page has been saved as a draft or a url !
Peace
Well you know the drill by know do you not .................the lions are coming to get you .........HeroesAre Rare chad too !
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Chad grow up maybe ?
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Chad are you the ..........
Fish From Hell! The Worlds Strangest and Bizarre Sea Creatures!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mderEHfR6K4
Chad, please go back and read what you wrote. They are known for ALL of those things.
Oh! by the way –
Sam stone, Science and the Doc all of whom think they're pretty sharp............ I've said what I have to say and I will NOT respond to ANY of your juvenile attempts to argue. Got it!
HeroesAre Rare
No morals aye ?
Oh! by the way –
Sam stone, Science and the Doc all of whom think they're pretty sharp............ I've said what I have to say and I will NOT respond to ANY of your juvenile attempts to argue. Got it!
May 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
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don
why do two nuns walk together? one nun makes sure the other nun don't get none.
May 23, 2013 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Klaark
I hear the Klan and Neo Nazis have it pretty rough, too. Good. I'm totally okay with bigots suffering.
May 23, 2013 at 7:54 pm | Report abuse | Reply
JC O'Dwyer
I hate hateful people!
May 23, 2013 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
Cinematt
"Hated minority" is absolute crap. Hateful majority is much more accurate. If they're feeling hated that might want to ponder Galations 6:7: "For whatever one sows, that will he also reap."
May 23, 2013 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse | Reply
lazadar
I LOVE how these aggressive anti-gay types not only use religion as a shield for their intolerance, fear of change, etc. But they have the audacity to claim they are victims and a "hated minority" for their "views". Tragic.
May 23, 2013 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Ryan
Far too assuming.....It's people like you.....that make it easy to stand on the other side of the issue.
May 23, 2013 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
Cora
Cora formally recuses herself from commenting about what other people say. Clearly, many people hate the Christians that is their prerogative and someone needs to be blamed. What disturbs me is that after it all, these hateful people want us all to patiently wait while they continue to heap hate upon so they can get their ya ya out. POISON! Have these people lost their entire family to a car fire, no. Have these people suffered torture or continuous vile hate? NO> has any one here at all had a loved one blown up by a hateful and fearful Christian NO> I am done commenting on people's answers. They are shallow, uninformed little talking heads that merely repeat what they have learned. Number one-do not turn to God when you die, you don't have the right to, you snotty little hate mongers. And number two, give your own personal experiences including those in the future zero points. They don't count.
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Science
Hey Cora
To bad so sad for you as there is no fairy in the sky have a great life .
Glad you are done commenting.
Peace
Death = depleted carbon the en !
May 23, 2013 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
Science
Oops,
THE END !
REMEBER the sign in picture above is BULLSH-IT !
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Cora siad this about cwistians "They are shallow, uninformed little talking heads that merely repeat what they have learned." LOL
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Science
Hey Cora how are the cats ?
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Peace
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David
"Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”
Can't happen too soon, that's for sure. They are no different than the ayatollah's and their followers.
May 23, 2013 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Chad
oh man, you said it! Christians are known for their subjugation of women, violent jihadist terrorism and their despotic imposition of Sharia law...
oh.. wait..
what?
May 23, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
Science
Oops, comments .
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Science
Clue chad whole page has been saved as a draft or a url !
Peace
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Science
https://www.zotero.org/colleengreene/items/5XRFKX8N...............url for you chadie !
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Science
Well you know the drill by know do you not .................the lions are coming to get you .........HeroesAre Rare chad too !
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HeroesAre Rare
Oh! by the way –
Sam stone, Science and the Doc all of whom think they're pretty sharp............ I've said what I have to say and I will NOT respond to ANY of your juvenile attempts to argue. Got it!
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Science
Science
Hey Cora how are the cats ?
https://www.zotero.org/colleengreene/items/5XRFKX8N...............url for you chadie !
But in favorites or peg IT OK !
Peace
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Dinosaur stomp
Great tune and dance loved IT
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David
"Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”
Can't happen too soon, that's for sure. They are no different than the ayatollah's and their followers.
May 23, 2013 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Chad
oh man, you said it! Christians are known for their subjugation of women, violent jihadist terrorism and their despotic imposition of Sharia law...
oh.. wait..
what?
May 23, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
HeroesAre Rare
Oh! by the way –
Sam stone, Science and the Doc all of whom think they're pretty sharp............ I've said what I have to say and I will NOT respond to ANY of your juvenile attempts to argue. Got it!
May 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Science
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Evolution wins............No red devil either !
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HeroesAre Rare
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The hike to Grandmas house trough the woods.
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The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the
HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !
Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles
May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm
Evolution wins............No red devil either !
Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: Selection in European Populations of Genes Regulated by FOXP2
Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm
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The hike to Grandmas house trough the woods.
Do you have any..............faith/chad?........take a hike in the woods chad you might learn something !
Where do morals come from?.....................NOT THE BIBLE>
By Kelly Murray, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/12/where-do-morals-come-from/#comments
Hey faith..................the peach........... did you learn or hear from that Discovery show about the LAND BRIDGE ?
How many years ago did we cross into North America ?.................faith chadie and Good news..........not
Free learning videos go viral
By Salman Khan, Special to CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/24/khan.video.learning/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector
The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the
HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !
Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles
May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm
Evolution wins............No red devil either !
Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: Selection in European Populations of Genes Regulated by FOXP2
Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm
Oldest of the old.............the RCC ...........BedVrooooom.............and the red devil................not funny !
Science books........videos.............trumps the 666.................beast.................or red horn-y thingy....does it
NOT ........peachy ?.............but below IS..............please help .........thank you.
A project of DC Entertainment to support Save the Children, Mercy Corps and IRC
http://www.wecanbeheroes.org/
The Greatest Action Movie Ever (G.A.M.E.)
May 23, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
For people who don't believe, atheists suffer from OCD about Christians! See: –
You atheists are wrong – we know that, but we don't care, because it's your loss that you reject God.
You are misguided, we know that. but we don't care because you don't WANT to know about God so why waste time on you.
You are bitter because you don't have what we have but we don't care because it's up to you to accept God or not.
You haven't got the logic or reason to look for God in Creation but we don't care because you COULD see it if you wanted.
SEE..........We leave you to your own devices – Why don't YOU try the same with us? That way we'd both be happy.
You in your wilful, culpable ignorance and US with the Glory of God. Peace be with you friends.
Must not like that creative commons DEAL aye............HeroesAre Rare ?
HAR, Actually you do not leave us alone, you want to inject your beliefs into public life, education, laws, marriage, etc.
Well you know the drill by know do you not .................the lions are coming to get you .........HeroesAre Rare
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Hey..........HeroesAre Rare
Save as draft again in an email fashion !
NOT FUNNY !
Heaven for atheists? Pope sparks debate
By Dan Merica, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/23/heaven-for-atheists-pope-sparks-debate/#comments
Must be feeling the heat ?
Teat
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The hike to Grandmas house trough the woods.
Do you have any..............faith/chad?........take a hike in the woods chad you might learn something !
Where do morals come from?.....................NOT THE BIBLE>
By Kelly Murray, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/12/where-do-morals-come-from/#comments
Hey faith..................the peach........... did you learn or hear from that Discovery show about the LAND BRIDGE ?
How many years ago did we cross into North America ?.................faith chadie and Good news..........not
Free learning videos go viral
By Salman Khan, Special to CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/24/khan.video.learning/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector
The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the
HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !
Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles
May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm
Evolution wins............No red devil either !
Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: Selection in European Populations of Genes Regulated by FOXP2
Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm
Oldest of the old.............the RCC ...........BedVrooooom.............and the red devil................not funny !
Science books........videos.............trumps the 666.................beast.................or red horn-y thingy....does it
NOT ........peachy ?.............but below IS..............please help .........thank you.
A project of DC Entertainment to support Save the Children, Mercy Corps and IRC
http://www.wecanbeheroes.org/
The Greatest Action Movie Ever (G.A.M.E.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUuHV3cEzZ8
Again Chadie................SPLAT = E mc2...............(U-Pb)...........dating process for link below
http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00461/uraninite.htm
And a little carbon – 14 from chondrites..............and water =
WHAM-O........horn-y planet and life.
Mom and Dad............did it faith !
http://www.discovertheforest.org/...............To Grandmas house we go
Hey Vic
Do a simple search on Prof. Higgs.
It is what creates the mass for our asses !
May 23, 2013 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
Jeff
That's not occam's razor. Occam's razor is that the hypothesis WITH THE FEWEST ASSUMPTIONS is the MOST LIKELY.
Seeing as you are assuming an all powerful, all present, all knowing deity with no origin and no supporting, observable and repeatable evidence, creation through God is no where near the most likely.
May 23, 2013 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
ME II
@Vic,
The ICR is obviously biased and not scientific.
"Principles of Scientific Creationism
The physical universe of space, time, matter, and energy has not always existed, but was supernaturally created by a transcendent personal Creator who alone has existed from eternity."
"The first human beings did not evolve from an animal ancestry, but were specially created in fully human form from the start."
"The Bible, ... is ... infallible and completely authoritative on all matters with which they deal, free from error of any sort, scientific and historical as well as moral and theological."
(http://www.icr.org/tenets/)
May 23, 2013 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
Red Rover............something NEW............you asked !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEowVBEQl88
https://www.zotero.org/colleengreene/items/XW3H99PB
I'm a Dinosaur – Ultrasaurus The Ultra Cool Dinosaur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuFT_wGBrIA
http://www.youtube.com/user/HooplaKidzTv
http://www.allegra.com/sign_up_to_save.aspx?utm_source=cnn&utm_medium=banner&utm_term=cobranded_300x250&utm_content=living_with_allergies&utm_campaign=Allegra_2013
http://www.autismspeaks.org/
Hey Earl
Share OK Thanks.
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This Oklahoma atheist isn't thanking the Lord
By Jessica Ravitz, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/22/this-oklahoma-atheist-isnt-thanking-the-lord/#comments
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/05/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority/
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/09/my-take-a-word-to-christians-be-nice/comment-page-44/#comment-2364094
Atheists Fight Gideon Bibles With Books By Christopher Hitchens And Richard Dawkins In Georgia State Parks
http://www.ibtimes.com/atheists-fight-gideon-bibles-books-christopher-hitchens-richard-dawkins-georgia-state-parks-1271125
RDFRS: Florida Teen Fights Back Against Bible ... – Richard
http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/1/22/florida-teen-fights-back-against-bible-distribution-at-his-school#
May 23, 2013 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
Cheers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctrUY4CWocY
Thoth
Gee CNN, use a headline to marginalize a woman who just lost her home for the sake of Blitzer's reputation. Like oooh, she isn't thanking the lord. She's so ungrateful. She should be ashamed. NO! Blitzer should be ashamed for asking not once, but twice. Even after she blew it off the first time. The headline should have been "Wolf gets Blitzed by his own dumb question"
May 23, 2013 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Science
Thoth
Agree . Maybe a Full B:ITZ !
For the whole planet to see !
Peace
May 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
lol??
Well, CNN is a special son of the Beast, ruled by group think. So they went with it.
May 23, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/22/this-oklahoma-atheist-isnt-thanking-the-lord/comment-page-21/#comment-2364475
Salute to Troops +468
http://www.hlntv.com/clusters/salute-troops
the fact that bigotry feels the need to be closeted is a good sign of progress.
NOT FUNNY !
Heaven for atheists? Pope sparks debate
By Dan Merica, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/23/heaven-for-atheists-pope-sparks-debate/#comments
Must be feeling the heat ?
Science
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/21/vatican-pope-didnt-perform-exorcism/comment-page-9/#comment-2364449
May 23, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the
HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !
Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles
May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm
Evolution wins............No red devil either !
Fish From Hell! The Worlds Strangest and Bizarre Sea Creatures!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mderEHfR6K4
(EA) FÓSILES, FOSILIZACIÓN Y PALEONTOLOGÍA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1cRg9oKTc&feature=player_embedded
Prehistoric shark captured on film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mneDhOtVEQw
Thai Researchers Discover 100-Million-Year-Old Crocodile Fossile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwD_hjq_V7U
And they are still EVOLVING AYE !!! The BIG CHOMP
Giant Crocodile Captured Alive in Philippines 21ft long http://WWW.GOODNEWS.WS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2z7sKW0cXU
Dyslexic doG
Why are people slamming CNN for this Belief Blog?
CNN puts this on the web because the rest of the world thinks it's hilarious that American Christians are so delusional about their bronze age religion. This gives them hits from the entire planet.
Thanks for the laugh American Christians! Keep trying to bring the US to reality Atheists!
May 23, 2013 at 11:37 am | Report abuse | Reply
Now that is really funny someone who lives in another country is criticizing and saying the rest of the world is laughing at us when we being not only the most prosperous country but the country that has helped most of the world not speak German,defended other countries freedoms and welcomes all. How quickly they forget. That is why most who post here cannot appreciate the US or its values and whats more understand and admit that the values and ethics of the US work and understand people not wanting to sacrifice those values to be more like the countries that have not as much nor help as much. Sad little people when the real criticism is for the off the wall comments like this whole blog and the mindless responses that follow. Which is perfectly exemplified by the above post who is a total fruit cake and not even worth a response.
Belief blog is owned by an atheist who loves to give bigots, unbelievers and Godless people a platform to undermine Christianity.
Whenever I need a good laugh I come to belief blog to see the pond life spouting their trash and waving their puny fists at good people who believe in something FAR greater than we know.
You'll learn! Everyone has to die.
HeroesAre Rare
When we die = depleted carbon the end !
Do something while you are here HeroesAre Rare OK !
Peace
Evolution wins.........Chomp Chomp Chomp !
Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: Selection in European Populations of Genes Regulated by FOXP2
Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm
(EA) FÓSILES, FOSILIZACIÓN Y PALEONTOLOGÍA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1cRg9oKTc&feature=player_embedded
Thai Researchers Discover 100-Million-Year-Old Crocodile Fossile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwD_hjq_V7U
Prehistoric shark captured on film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mneDhOtVEQw
HerosAre Rare.............you know the drill ...........looks like someone has no morals ?
The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the
HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !
Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles
May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm
Evolution wins............No red devil either !
If you were discovered to be a christian would the wicked have enough evidence to hate you for that?
Repost.......someone feelings hurt ?
May 23, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
lambsev
If you were discovered to be a christian would the wicked have enough evidence to hate you for that?
May 23, 2013 at 10:45 am | Report abuse | Reply
Sciernce
Science
Hey Cora how are the cats ?
https://www.zotero.org/colleengreene/items/5XRFKX8N...............url for you chadie !
But in favorites or peg IT OK !
Peace
May 23, 2013 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
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Science
May 23, 2013 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
Dinosaur stomp
Great tune and dance loved IT
Peace
May 23, 2013 at 7:33 pm | Report abuse |
Science
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Wolf Blitzer to atheist: Thank God, right? – WorldNetDaily
6 hours ago
From Google..............interesting
May 23, 2013 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
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Science
May 23, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
HeroesAre Rare
Oh! by the way –
Sam stone, Science and the Doc all of whom think they're pretty sharp............ I've said what I have to say and I will NOT respond to ANY of your juvenile attempts to argue. Got it!
May 23, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse | Reply
Science
HeroesAre Rare..........comments disappearing again aye ?
The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !...Evolution WINS hands down...time for the horn-y red devil to get the
HELL out of the way.....................Stem Cell research !
Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles
May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm
Evolution wins............No red devil either !
May 23, 2013 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
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Hey faith..................the peach........... did you learn or hear from that Discovery show about the LAND BRIDGE ?
How many years ago did we cross into North America ?
Free learning videos go viral
By Salman Khan, Special to CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/24/khan.video.learning/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector
A project of DC Entertainment to support Save the Children, Mercy Corps and IRC.
http://www.wecanbeheroes.org/
Peace
im always amazed when people who think they have a serious point and wish to put forth an argument in support, quote from the bible. Think of them quoting from "Alice in Wonderland"and realize it carries about the same weight. Come on folks...please stop being so incredibly weak minded. Using the greatest work of fiction( bible) to justify yr ignorance and bigotry....FYI....there is NO JUSTIFICATION!!!
well said kevin!
Hated minority? how about hated majority? On census polls religious people make up about 80% of my country. yet I know that most of those on that poll are bigger sinners than I am. on record, something that will be reviewed,they want to appear religious but in reality they are no such thing. I don't know if there is a god but I do know that what we have created as religion is wrong and only about control. If we just could put our faith in the real power in this world, humans and the taking care of our fellow humans, we may be better off.
Using your religious views to undermine someone in their particular lifestyle is (according to your bible) wrong. Matthew 7. Read it.
I'm a Christian and I believe God loves everyone I don't think he discriminates anyone not the God I believe in. Why would God create everything on this Earth out of love then turn around and hate one group of people just because they love a man or a woman?
One of God's messages is to treat others the way you want to be treated and that's exactly what I think people should do. If you're a christian and you honestly believe God "hates" anyone then you're a hypocrite you'r not anymore "perfect" then anyone else. It's disgusting that someone would stick up a sign claiming God hates this and God hates that? Who are you God's spokesperson?
Read this.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.
1 Timothy 5:20
As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.
Evolving Genes Lead to Evolving Genes: Selection in European Populations of Genes Regulated by FOXP2
Apr. 18, 2013 — Researchers have designed a method that can universally test for evolutionary adaption, or positive (Darwinian) selection, in any chosen set of genes, using re-sequencing data such as that generated by the 1000 Genomes Project. The method identifies gene sets that show evidence for positive selection in comparison with matched controls, and thus highlights genes for further functional studies.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130418124905.htm
Peace
Oldest of the old.............the RCC ...........BedVrooooom.............and the red devil................not funny !
How very "PC", Will. But, in all your 'Christianess', you forgot to put the baby in the bathwater. We live for God's approval, not the haters of God. You're trying for both, and you'll get neither.
Just because hate and bigotry is written in a holy book does not mean it's okay to push or demonstrate those values publicly. If the Bible said that sacrificing animals and what not were the only way to repent for sins, wouldn't churches be open for business, performing sacrifices along with confessions?
Wrong. Since we are created in the image of God – He is a hateful, spitefull, judgemental, petty SOB
I don't believe God hate's or judges anyone.
All of you are not of the Spirit therefore you will not understand what it is written in the Bible. I understand that you interpret the Bible how you see it fit to demolarize believers.
Hey freedom
Hey faith..................the peach........... did you learn or hear from that Discovery show about the LAND BRIDGE ?
How many years ago did we cross into North America ?
Free learning videos go viral
By Salman Khan, Special to CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/24/khan.video.learning/index.html
If these so-called Christians would simply follow the advice of their own savior then they would not be having any trouble. When this backwards preacher was approached by his flock with a problem that everyone was judging them for their statements or they're afraid they'll be judged for their judgements. Why didn't he just say, "Judge not!" These fundamentalists have no boundaries. They fancy themselves God's police force. Guess what, you're working for the Devil. Christ knows you not!
Wow again its amazing that someone who knows nothing about the Bible has already been judge and jury to the condemnation of Christians. The PR campaign put on by me is only to discredit and to lie very much like most of the current politicians that are in the US. Speak nicely to their face but inside be like a wolf. I can show you many posts where my words were not so nice.Not to mention under my many names it makes it easy to be both good cop and bad cop. I am learning how to use the carrot and stick being a atheist and having nothing to offer except to be nice in order for people to have sympathy for me.
The fake scienceposter above is full of SH_IT !...............carbon -14.............just add water = LIFE !
Small but Speedy: Short Plants Live in the Evolutionary Fast Lane
May 21, 2013 — Biologists have known for a long time that some creatures evolve more quickly than others. Exactly why isn't well understood, particularly for plants. But it may be that height plays a role, says Robert Lanfear of Australian National University and the U. S. National Evolutionary Synthesis Center.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521121424.htm
OK so what part is FOS? I know myself and am finally speaking the truth so why don't you just go away and stop harassing me. Peace, Lmfao
To show you how bad this poster is can you imagine adding carbon 14 and there being life.......... LMFOA .........what a dork to think that they know anything about true science............. Peace. By the way that is why they keep words to a minimum and repost previous posts and doesn't say much. Cannot handle English well......... and as dumb as a brick.
Evolution WINS !!!
Which one of you is the faker .....................do i need to find the list .........fake science poster above.
The DINOSAUR ?...............Chomp Chomp !
Allosaurus Fed More Like a Falcon Than a Crocodile: Engineering, Anatomy Work Reveals Differences in Dinosaur Feeding Styles
May 21, 2013 — The mighty T. rex may have thrashed its massive head from side to side to dismember prey, but a new study shows that its smaller cousin Allosaurus was a more dexterous hunter and tugged at prey more like a modern-day falcon.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130521152638.htm
I'm a Dinosaur – Ultrasaurus The Ultra Cool Dinosaur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuFT_wGBrIA
"Wow again its amazing that someone who knows nothing about the Bible has already been judge and jury to the condemnation of Christians."
Like christians who know nothing of atheism being judge and jury to the condemnation of atheists?
When religious beliefs become evil: 4 signs...........fake science poster ?
By John Blake, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/28/when-religious-beliefs-becomes-evil-4-signs/
Heads up, fellow Christians! The Rapture has ALREADY happened - and it was way back in 1955! Thousands of people all over the world were taken up to heaven. But because all of them were poor and so few of them were white, nobody noticed.
i am getting pretty outraged. i c no reason for so many of u animals to go so soft on them xtards. it ain't fair. no matter what they do, u always put a positive spin on it. it is disgusting. it is censorship.
xtards ain't perfect observation sambo. u need to point that out onst in a while. surely u can find something not so nice to say about em. (dodo don't get sarcasm. watch her have a fit!)
Morning faith.................have you figured it out yet ?.clue............666 and the beast is not IT .
Hey faith...chadie too..........
Plesae donate $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to storm victims............thanks
https://www.facebook.com/RichardDawkinsFoundation/posts/10151583537145155
That is all religion is ..................$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ................no fairy in the sky required.to take IT
hey faith.......chadie too.......throgh the woods to Grandmas.........house where the chondrites are all over in the woods!!
Maybe you go out and explore a little faith ?...............if you can not get out of the JELL_O you and Chadie are stuck in,
here is a link that will help !
http://www.discovertheforest.org/
Tim Tebow homeschool bill approved by Texas Senate............?
https://www.facebook.com/RichardDawkinsFoundation/posts/10151583537145155
Repost
https://twitter.com/CNNSchools
Oops .............source for the Tebow article.
http://schoolsofthought.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/10/tim-tebow-homeschool-bill-approved-by-texas-senate/?iref=allsearch
Peace
hey faith...............numbers for article below.............Laws of Association..............chadie too
About 50,100,000 results (0.36 seconds)
When religious beliefs become evil: 4 signs
By John Blake, CNN
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/28/when-religious-beliefs-becomes-evil-4-signs/
Hey faith.................chadie you do know that the sign above is wrong ...........to teach to children.............
The fairy in the sky did not create US OK .
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/22/my-take-keep-bad-theology-out-of-oklahoma/comment-page-1/?replytocom=2358297#respond
https://www.f35.com/
Peace
Faith and chadie has seen this ................have you not faith ?
The Asteroid that Flattened Mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlXuUxFTcLs
Oops it was this one faith .
Mars: World That Never Was
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_955787&feature=iv&src_vid=FlXuUxFTcLs&v=JgMXPXdqJn8