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Evangelical Christians say they are the new victims of intolerance - they're persecuted for condemning homosexuality.
May 5th, 2013
06:00 AM ET

When Christians become a 'hated minority'

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - When Peter Sprigg speaks publicly about his opposition to homosexuality, something odd often happens.

During his speeches, people raise their hands to challenge his assertions that the Bible condemns homosexuality, but no Christians speak out to defend him.

“But after it is over, they will come over to talk to me and whisper in my ear, ‘I agree with everything you said,’" says Sprigg, a spokesman for The Family Research Council, a powerful, conservative Christian lobbying group.

We’ve heard of the “down-low” gay person who keeps his or her sexual identity secret for fear of public scorn. But Sprigg and other evangelicals say changing attitudes toward homosexuality have created a new victim: closeted Christians who believe the Bible condemns homosexuality but will not say so publicly for fear of being labeled a hateful bigot.

As proof, Sprigg points to the backlash that ESPN commentator Chris Broussard sparked recently. Broussard was called a bigot and a purveyor of hate speech when he said an NBA player who had come out as gay was living in “open rebellion to God.” Broussard said the player, Jason Collins, was “living in unrepentant sin” because the Bible condemns homosexuality.

“In the current culture, it takes more courage for someone like Chris Broussard to speak out than for someone like Jason Collins to come out,” says Sprigg, a former pastor. “The media will hail someone who comes out of the closet as gay, but someone who simply expresses their personal religious views about homosexual conduct is attacked.”

When is disagreement hate?

Bryan Litfin, a theology professor at Moody Bible Institute in Illinois, says Christians should be able to publicly say that God designed sex to take place within a marriage between a man and a woman.

“That isn’t so outrageous,” Litfin says. “Nobody is expressing hate toward homosexuals by saying that. Since when is disagreement the same as hate?”

But quoting the Bible doesn't inoculate anyone from becoming a bigot or hater, some scholars say. There's a point at which a Christian's opposition to homosexuality can become bigotry, and even hate speech, they say.

Crossing such a line has happened many times in history.

A literal reading of the Bible was used to justify all sorts of hatred: slavery, the subjugation of women and anti-Semitism, scholars and pastors say.

“Truly damaging speech cannot be excused just because it expresses genuine religious belief,” says Mark D. Jordan, author of “Recruiting Young Love: How Christians Talk about Homosexuality.”

“Some religious beliefs, sincerely held, are detestable. They cannot be spoken without disrupting social peace,” says Jordan, a professor at the John Danforth Center on Religion & Politics at Washington University in St. Louis.

The point where religious speech becomes hate speech is difficult to define, though, scholars and activists say.

The Southern Poverty Law Center in Alabama is a nonprofit civil rights group that combats and monitors hate groups. Three years ago, it designated the Family Research Council, the group that Sprigg represents, as a hate group - a characterization the group stridently rejects.

Mark Potok,  a center spokesman, says there’s no shared definition of what constitutes hate speech.

“There is no legal meaning. It’s just a phrase,” Potok says. “Hate speech is in the ear of the beholder.”

'One of the most hated minorities?'

Intolerance may be difficult to define, but some evangelicals say they have become victims of intolerance because of their reverence for the Bible.

The conservative media culture is filled with stories about evangelicals being labeled as “extremists” for their belief that homosexuality is a sin.

Their sense of persecution goes beyond their stance on homosexuality. There are stories circulating of evangelical students being suspended for opposing homosexuality, a teacher fired for giving a Bible to a curious student, and the rise of anti-Christian bigotry.

A blogger at The American Dream asked in one essay:

“Are evangelical Christians rapidly becoming one of the most hated minorities in America?”

The reluctance of evangelicals to speak out against homosexuality is often cited as proof they are being forced into the closet.

Joe Carter, editor for The Gospel Coalition, an online evangelical magazine, wrote a blog post entitled “Debatable: Is the Christian Church a ‘Hate Group’?" He warned that young people will abandon “orthodox” Christian churches that teach that homosexuality is a sin for fear of being called haters.

“Faux civility, embarrassment, prudishness and a fear of expressing an unpopular opinion has caused many Christians to refrain from explaining how homosexual conduct destroys lives,” Carter wrote.

Some Christians fear that opposing homosexuality could cause them to lose their jobs and “haunt them forever,” Carter says.

“It’s easier to just go along,” says Carter, who is also author of “How to Argue Like Jesus.” “You don’t want to be lumped in with the bigots. That’s a powerful word."

Edward Johnson, a communication professor at Campbell University in North Carolina, says we are now living in a "postmodern" era where everything is relative and there is no universally accepted truth. It's an environment in which anyone who says "this is right" and "that is wrong" is labeled intolerant, he says.

There was a time when a person could publicly say homosexuality was wrong and people could consider the statement without anger, he says. Today, people have reverted to an intellectual tribalism where they are only willing to consider the perspective of their own tribe.

“They are incapable of comprehending that someone may have a view different than theirs,” Johnson says. “For them anyone who dares to question the dogma of the tribe can only be doing so out of hatred.”

Sprigg, from the Family Research Council, says his condemnation of homosexual conduct does not spring from intolerance but a desire to protect gays from harmful conduct, he says.

Sprigg, a senior fellow for policy studies at the council, wrote in a council pamphlet that homosexual men are more likely to engage in child sexual abuse than are straight men. He also wrote that gay men are also afflicted with a higher rate of sexually transmitted diseases and mental illness as well.

Sprigg says he does not believe homosexuality is a choice and that “personal testimonies" and "clinical experience” show that some people “can and do change from gay to straight.”

“Maybe we need to do a better job of showing that we are motivated by Christian love,” Sprigg says. “Love is wanting the best for someone, and acting to bring that about.”

'That's a lie'

Potok, from the Southern Poverty Law Center, has little use for the love Sprigg talks about.

He calls it hatred, and his voice rose in anger when he talked about the claims by Sprigg and other Christian groups that gay men are more predisposed to molest children and that homosexual behavior is inherently harmful.

He says the Southern Poverty Law Center didn’t designate the Family Research Group a hate group because they view homosexuality as a sin or oppose same-sex marriage, Potok says. There are plenty of Christian groups who hold those beliefs but are not hate groups, he says.

A group becomes a hate group when it attacks and maligns an entire class of people for their “immutable characteristics,” Potok says. The Family Research Council spreads known falsehoods about gays and lesbians, he says, such as the contention that gay men are predisposed to abuse children.

“That’s a lie,” Potok says. “These guys are engaging in straight-up defamation of a very large group of people. There are not many things much worse than you can say in America about somebody than they are a child molester.”

Potok scoffed at Spriggs’ claim that the council and other evangelical anti-gay groups are victims of intolerance.

“That’s whining on the part of people who spend their days and nights attacking gay people and then some people criticize them and they don’t like it,” he says. “That’s pathetic. It reminds me of slave owners complaining that people are saying ugly things about them.”

What the Bible says

What about the popular evangelical claim, “We don’t hate the sinner, just the sin” – is that seen as intolerance or hate speech when it comes to homosexuality?

There are those who say you can’t hate the sin and love the sinner because being gay or lesbian is defined by one’s sexual behavior; it’s who someone is.

“Most people who identify as gay and lesbian would say that this is not an action I’m choosing to do; this is who I am,” says Timothy Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible: The Unexpected History of an Accidental Book.”

Beal, a religion professor at Case Western University in Ohio, says it should be difficult for any Christian to unequivocally declare that the Bible opposes homosexuality because the Bible doesn’t take a single position on the topic. It's an assertion that many scholars and mainline Protestant pastors would agree with.

Some people cite Old Testament scriptures as condemning homosexuality, such as  Leviticus 18:22 - “If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” But other Christians counter by saying they are not bound by the Old Testament.

There are those who also cite New Testament scriptures like Romans 1:26-27 - “… Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men. …”

Beal, however, says Jesus said little about sex. And the Apostle Paul, who wrote Romans, was probably referring to male prostitution and men having sexual relations with boys, a practice in the Greco-Roman world.

“Paul does not understand genetics and sexual orientation the way we understand it now as something much more than a choice,” says Beal.

Some evangelicals say Christians can’t change their view of biblical truth just because times change. But some scholars reply:

Sure you can. Christians do it all the time.

Denying a woman’s ability to preach in church was justified by scriptures like 1 Timothy 2:11-12 - “… I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” But many churches have abandoned that teaching - and some scholars say a woman preached the first Christian sermon, when Mary Magdalene proclaimed that Jesus had risen.

Slaveholders in 19th century America justified slavery through a literal reading of the Bible, quoting Titus 2:9-10 – “Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything. …” And anti-Semitism was justified by the claims that Jews killed Jesus, such as Matthew 27: 25-26 - “Let his blood be on us and on our children.”

Litfin, from Moody Bible Institute, acknowledged that the Bible once sanctioned slavery, but he said that practice was a “cultural expression” that changed over time. Evangelicals who oppose same-sex marriage by citing the Bible are on more solid ground, he says.

“Marriage is a universal and timeless institution that God set up for maximum human flourishing. He set it up in the first book of the Bible with the story of Adam and Eve. It is consistent throughout the whole Bible. … Marriage is in a different category than those cultural things.”

Public jousts over the Bible's stance on homosexuality rarely change people’s minds. What changes is when people get to know gay and lesbian people as friends and hear their story, says Beal, author of “The Rise and Fall of the Bible.”

“If you open up to that other person genuinely, you basically come to a point where you have to sacrifice them to your ideology or crack open your ideology to make a hospitable place for them,” Beal says.

One Christian pastor who is gay says the uproar over the ESPN commentator’s comments can actually be good,  because debates help settle moral disputes.

“What appears to us as antiquated and prejudicial now was once a disputed issue that required debate,” says the Rev. Richard McCarty, a minister in the United Church of Christ and a religious studies professor at Mercyhurst University in Pennsylvania.

Until the debate over homosexuality is settled - if it ever is - there may be plenty of evangelical Christians who feel as if they are now being forced to stay in the closet.

Carter, the evangelical blogger, says he foresees a day when any church that preaches against homosexuality will be marginalized. Just as many churches now accept divorce, they will accept sexual practices once considered sinful.

“It’s getting to the point,” he says, “where churches are not going to say that any sexual activity is wrong.”

- CNN Writer

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  7. Deborah

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  11. Deborah

    I'd speak out to defend him. We all have to change to be acceptable to God, and God use the Holy Spirit to strengthen us. so there's no excuse...we all can change if we ask for help. Sure we live peaceably amongst all men, but we don't have to put up with harassment and oppression. People should have spoken out a long time ago, I did! And I really don't mind what they do to me, they can't change my belief or make me renounce it. The christians are growing like bread rising under a cloth. Although people can't see us, and we are being covered up by the darkness around us, we are expanding exponentially. The fact that you can't get rid of Christians or Jews through persecution should be evidence enough that God exists and he won't let man forget this is his planet and we really don't have any rights. the only rights available are...for those who live acceptably to God, are the keys to the Kingdom of God. Other than that, really no Christian can judge another, but they should love people and try to help them, because really those people who are rebelling, are rebelling against God, and that means they are in for it when Christ judges them. Don't say we didn't them! But in the meanwhile, Christians can be peaceful and loving, or they can defend God, but they can't be violent or sin in order to defend their belief because that's completely wrong and then they will face judgement too! so yeah. I'd speak up! and sure they'll persecute, but the fact is, they aren't going to win. First they won't change my mind, second if they even went as far as killing me, they won't change my belief! and they will be facing God, not me. that's they choice! Really. If they don't want to accept that fact, fine! but it's their own choice! We are just letting them know what's going to happen to them though, out of the kindness of our hearts. And no they can't join Christians if they are not going to change. All people have to repent and change to be acceptable, and they are no exception!

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      http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/31/southern-baptists-to-urge-churches-and-members-to-cut-boy-scout-ties/#comments

      June 4, 2013 at 11:47 am |
  13. voiceoftruthusa

    This article is so full of nonsensical views of the true Christian church that it would take an entire article to refute it. Let's just suffice it to say that true Christians know the voice of the true Messiah, Jesus Christ, and everyone else knows the voice of the god of this world, Satan. There is no middle ground.

    June 4, 2013 at 2:36 am |
    • Science

      To bad the sign in picture above is wrong.....the fairy did not create US............evolution did,

      June 4, 2013 at 6:28 am |
  14. JKNBT

    the end times apo stacy is just one more sign of the end.....read the little letters of Ju de or 2 Peter which speak of these days we live in....

    God is going to make a plain difference between those who serve him and those who don't. It's called the Rapture. have you heard of it?

    there are going to be some people who are really surprised on that day. Some will be surprised they are left behind. Some will be surprised that God really did take his faithful home.

    The liberal churches will have services as normal the Sunday after the Rapture. The sermon topic will no doubt be how the Rapture is a myth, and how a Loving God would never leave behind those who practice persistent, un re pen tent imm orality especially se xua l sin. After all, we are saved by grace, they will say. I hope I'm not around then.

    June 3, 2013 at 8:15 pm |
  15. Science

    Hey faithy seems like you have not been weaned yet sort of like chadie .............reminds me of a 5 year old ?

    Monkey Teeth Help Reveal Neanderthal Weaning

    May 24, 2013 — Most modern human mothers wean their babies much earlier than our closest primate relatives. But what about our extinct relatives, the Neanderthals?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130524104828.htm

    Current search on Bing chadie ..........bookmark update chad........3rd one from top of page.

    RDFRS: When Christians become a 'hated minority'

    http://www.richarddawkins.net/.../5/5/when-christians-become-a-hated-minority

    11,000,000 results Any time

    Splat Chad

    June 3, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
  16. rh

    Doesn't anyone find it funny that the 12 Apostles and Jesus were all guys who spent a LOT of time together, usually in the absence of women?

    June 3, 2013 at 4:30 pm |
    • Jeremy

      LOL well if you had half the IQ of a retarded snail you would see that women were there with them ALOT. Mary Magdalene. Mary, the mother of Jesus,Mary Salome,Martha, sister of Lazarus, Miriamne, sister of Phillip,

      I know your a lib but learn to read. Besides in there day and in ALOT of cultures around the world today Men hang with Men, Women with Women please don't deflect your gay tendencies to others much GREATER THAN YOU.

      June 3, 2013 at 5:53 pm |
    • Dippy

      What does ALOT stand for?

      June 4, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
  17. Science

    Evolution wins !

    New Species of Marine Fish from 408 Million Years Ago Discovered in Teruel

    June 3, 2013 — Researchers from the University of Valencia and the Natural History Museum of Berlin have studied the fossilised remains of scales and bones found in Teruel and the south of Zaragoza, ascertaining that they belong to a new fish species called Machaeracanthus goujeti that lived in that area of the peninsula during the Devonian period. The fossils are part of the collection housed in the Palaeontology Museum of Zaragoza.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130603133432.htm

    June 3, 2013 at 3:32 pm |
    • Chancho

      what ever allows you to sleep at night.

      June 4, 2013 at 2:57 am |
  18. S. Bonner

    I think people often confuse Christianity, or having any faith in a God, with the outdated social conservative policies currently being touted by the ultra-right Republican base. There will ALWAYS be people who (loudly) hate Christians simply because they think atheism makes them intellectually superior, while there will always be "Christians" lining up to join the next incarnation of Westboro.

    Christians who believe one thing but hide their opinions are no better than any other two-faced liar. As a Christian myself, I will gladly challenge speakers who want to snuff out other people's basic human rights, and for those speakers to make out like myself - or people like me - are skulking around showing support for their causes just shows how weak they really are.

    June 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm |
    • Science

      You know creationists...........ID believers.....chad..........The Bone !..............E =mc2 = splat.

      Messed-Up Bible Stories – 2 – Adam and Eve

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRGnPIlclps&feature=player_embedded

      June 3, 2013 at 1:40 pm |
  19. hubert39

    Serious question... Did God ever say any thing or did men say God told them to say something?
    Remember we are talking about something that happen over 5000 years ago. Could the men made a mistake and wrote the wrong thing? Or is al of of the Bible, hear say?
    Millions of people live by what a few men wrote over 5000 years ago. Just asking.....

    June 3, 2013 at 11:14 am |
  20. DOYOULOVEAMERICA

    Liberals have become just another hate group, hate america, hate values, hate -GOD-, hate religion, hate normal people, hate the Military, hate Boy Scouts, hate Girl Scouts, hate real Chtistians, hate the rich, hate the well off, hate children, etc. etc. etc.....

    June 3, 2013 at 9:08 am |
    • midwest rail

      Nonsense. But you already knew that.

      June 3, 2013 at 9:09 am |
    • Josh

      Probably the dumbest comment I have ever read. Just immensely idiotic. Now go get your dictionary so you can figure out what "immensely" means you twit.

      June 3, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
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